Hope is here!
Saturday is a big day with races near and (well, not too) far. Near is the CRCA power points race in Central Park, and also near is the Al Toefield Memorial in Prospect Park. Those that want to travel a little farther can go to Mt. Holly and do the Mt. Holly Smithville Invitational Amateur events – if you are a pro, you have been invited already, no doubt.
Sunday has two events – the Donovan-Ruhlman Naugatuck Crit and the Kissena Women’s Track Clinic.
We wanted to load up the new site and see how it would hold up to some abuse, but you all stayed away because we made it log in only.
So today we’re making the old site log in only, and the new site open.
And a reminder: please post any site problems to this page.
new whatever
the events thing is pretty cool on the homepage
Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for “doping practices.”
Come on, it’s obvious!
Its pretty sweet how you have log ins for the old and new site, and it doesn’t work.
i love nyvelocity
i find this whole new site / two site thing very confusing
comments on one article on one site arent’t the same as the other
and, it keeps calling me a wheelsucker. how does it know that?
i now have a headache
i guess im really simple-minded
cable crash TT spin corner. (chicken TT’ing haiku?)
crash road grind points sleet. (CRCA spring HH points race?)
the captcha is like deconstructed refrigerator magnet cycling poetry
SEE? it called me a wheel sucker again
and all my sentences get run together
my headache is getting worse
calgon, take me away…
STOP CALLING ME A WHEELSUCKER YOU B@STARD
andy, the website’s calling me names again…
and i have to be able to count to post?
“fitchburg grind clincher madison rain”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hX9phXawPc4
<=== YOU ARE A DOO-DOO HEAD
That’s the way it is.
Accounts were copied over last night. You just created yours on the old site this morning. It didn’t get copied over. You can create a new one here, or it will eventually be copied over when the old site is shut down.
Haha Andy. Separated at birth for sure.
The resemblance is uncanny.
what?! the website spells your (schmalz’s) name right but calls me a wheelsucker? that has to be a bug. does it even read schamlz’s FBF reports? “crash road cobbles prologue points” = CRCA’s next logical step after power points
If you type over the name “wheelsucker” in the “your name” box you can call yourself whatever you want – is this that hard?
That is very hard. This site is not any better than the other.
Navigation sucks, its all mixed up, whats up with nothing on the left side? the little excel-style weekend race line up is just ugly.
Do you want a refund?
Just don’t launch something that sucks, like a cat 3 attack.
How many TSS points do I get for going on the new site?
“If you type over the name “wheelsucker” in the “your name” box you can call yourself whatever you want – is this that hard?”
damn schmalzy lighten up! nobody likes a grumpy gnome. im just playing with you
c’mon baby cobra, the guys put a lot of effort to keep this thing afloat, dont be mean, hate’s soooo 2007. hug hug and make nicey-nice.
i think the events thing on the homepage is a great addition
and the stream of consciousness cap’t cha is a blast
I do what I want. I don’t need friends on the internet.
oh you tough lil baby cobra! “i do what i want HISSS HISSSSS HISSSSSSS!” shed that grumpy skin, you feisty lil worm, you could use a friend. just cause youre cold-blooded doesnt mean you nobody loves you
“brake collarbone road threshold sunburn”
is that what the oracle said to cadel?
design is busy but the events thing is useful
The Ricco positive just doesn’t make alot of sense. The guy is young with a career to ruin, not like the older guys in the peloton just trying to hang on. He goes into the tour as a high profile rider looking to win stages so he knows he’s going to be tested and he already has a documented high hematorcrit from childhood so why do EPO?
I’m getting more suspicious of the French. First Landis puts in a great ride with avergage power over 5 hours less than what he has done in 6 hour training rides and he’s “busted.” Now Ricco. Since when can’t a 132 pound climber ride away from others?
conspiracy! just don’t look in piepoli’s suitcase of courage, its filled with blood bags.
Maybe he thought he was using a new form of EPO that couldn’t be detected?
the french just don’t like the spanish.
or the americans.
or the germans.
or the english.
but the aussies are probably okay.
maybe poor ricco just lived downstream from the Roche factory in switzerland and drank some water contaminated with the new 3rd generation EPO.
An really nasty crash with a jogger at the end of the masters race. Hope the guy is ok, and we don’t get booted from the park.
lalala
yes it was pretty ugly, and inexcusable that someone was sprinting that far to the left in the jogger lane. Another very distraught runner ran to the promoter and was demanding that there be consequences.
Everyone I talked to had a sick feeling about it that we might lose our racing privileges int he park.
Maybe metal barriers between the jogger lane and the roadway for the last 1K before the finish line would prevent people from pulling that crap.
In the joggers lane at all is real bad, but how far to the left did it happen? Hard to make a case for bike racing in the park when someone out for Saturday exercise gets carted off like that. I feel bad for the guy and really hope he’s ok.
hard to tell but looked to be pretty far to the left. Definitely not on the line where the cones are. Not good.
It’s my understanding that the rider crashed well outside the jogger’s lane, but then slid into the runner. Hit his ankles/feet and tossed him to the ground. There were no obvious broken bones, but he hit his head on the pavement.
The rider walked away relatively unscathed.
The facts as I know them.
I thought I saw him hit the jogger while still upright but it was in my peripheral vision so I could be wrong, if so it becomes an unlucky accident rather than an egregious violation. It changes a lot in terms of the rider but not so much in terms of our tenuous racing privileges.
rider was upright when he went into the joggers lane-most likely slid out locking up his brakes to avoid hitting jogger-the entire last lap of the masters race had racers in and out of joggers lane it was just a matter of time-same shit went on last weekend
Rider started crashing before hitting jogger.. .. slid into Jogger.. sent jogger flying.. jogger left via ambulance.. rider was issued a summons for “reckless bicycling” by the police… worst part, jogger was a lawyer…
You mean the worst part besides the fact that the guy got hurt, of course.
which park are we talking about? prospect? i didn’t think anything happened in the CP race, so i am assuming that you are all talking about bklyn. sorry to hear that there was such an ugly mishap.
When was the last time the CRCA had a Masters field in a club race? This race was promoted by Greg Avon. Charlie I doesn’t have a masters field either when he promotes races in Prospect Park. Fewer fields, no overlapping, less frustration, fewer problems.
It’s only a matter of time (and legal fees) before racing is prohibited in all NYC parks.
Who is likely targeted in a lawsuit in such a situation? The rider, the promoter/club, the city? Everyone? Anyone know for real?
What kind of protection does the promoter’s insurance buy. Would USACycling be involved?
I am genuinely curious, and more than a little concerned.
crash was not caused by the fact that there was a Masters field.. the race was run smoothly.. masters field was never passed by another field or passed another field.. accident could have just as easily happened if there were only 3 fields going around the park…. a better solution for Prospect races would be to move the start times earlier.. 6am .. like they do in Central (don’t the CRCA races start at 6am?).. get done earlier.. fewer pedestrians in the park… odds of an accident involving a non-racer go down….. stinks to get up earlier, but stinks even more not to have any races to go to locally…
i disagree that start times need to be earlier. it won’t stop people from cheating and moving up in the rec lane. There should be movable barriers during the last 1K…this will protect people in the joggers lane in case things go awry in the sprint.
Wheelsucker paints with a very broad and inaccurate brush.
Gustavo has been riding with Colavita since at least 2002.
Unless Wheelsucker has evidence to the contrary he never raced with
UPMC.
Maybe it’s just that all South Americans look alike or something but these
charges are off base.
Wheelsuckers comments about the end of racing in parks is also off base and not appreciated.
Maybe Wheelsucker will be better off sucking on a pacifier. To the extent that this site is made
up of the cycling community people like Wheelsucker should not be welcome.
Running into a jogger? Really? who’s sprinting anywhere near the joggers lane? I heard your level of melatonin is proportionate to your jogger lane position. I hope we lose the park permit, and maybe then you assholes will realize its a privilege to race there, and we act like dicks. Well, SOME of us do.
who pays for that… ? this is not the tour.. just a local park race…. this is all just bicycle little league.. much more feasible to start earlier..
crashing and sliding into the joggers lane is cheating?
Crashing and sliding across the pavement in a legal, USCF race is grounds for a summons from the police??
How anyone who considers themselves part of the cycling community could wish for losing a permit to race in the parks is beyond me.
So morality and the concern for the safety of others needs to be entirely based upon ones identity as a cyclist? I think that when people start to get hurt the idea of an open course race needs to be rethought.
Races can and are put on safely in the city parks.
Improvements can and should be made.
Little tolerance should be granted to riders who dangerously enter the joggers lane.
Really dangerous riding should be severely punished.
People complained about riders sprinting in the joggers lane in the Prospect Race last week.
Strong action could have prevented a repeat this week that resulted in the accident.
If necessary reduce the size of the fields.
The Mengoni race for example has an 80 rider limit.
If the park races end , there will shortly be no cycling in NYC and the resulting reduction in riders will have a severe impact in riding in the northeast.
There won’t even be people around to put on Bear Mtn and other regional races.
Talk about safety yes but giving support to people who want to end racing in the parks is wrong headed.
Wheelsucker probably does even race.
I didn’t see the crash, so I have no idea what happened, except that the rider’s big chain ring (Dura Ace) was missing a big chunk afterward (this I did see). About one-third of the chain right was gone.
Anybody ever seen this happened before? It looked like the chain ring itself took a big impact, like maybe with the curb?
i don’t think eric was sprinting in the rec lane. he said he got pushed and the fact that he was already falling when he hit the jogger backs that up. the sprint at PP is too fast. it should be on the uphill section instead of a flat right after big downhill where everyone thinks they have legs to contest it. the sprint is always a shit show at PP. i choose never to contest it after i crashed in the lead-up 2 years ago. the speed and the yahoos that PP attracts make it a stupid sprint everytime. it didn’t help that every move that went in the master’s race included a bunch of old farts who refused to work. crappy racing and crappy crash. and what’s with Avon making people line up at his car like he’s a bank teller and then getting testy about it.
no clue on how it happened, since it was behind me. it’s unquestionably really unfortunate. we also shouldn’t overlook that the general populace isn’t going to care the nuances of he ended up in the rec lane, only that someone got hurt. the right attitude is one of contrition.
Does anyone have the top three at prospect?
“every move that went in the master’s race included a bunch of old farts who refused to work.” this must mean 2 things…that you were in “every move” and that you are an “old fart.” why do you even show up and pay $29 to race?….you apparently don’t want to go off the front and drive a break and you also don’t want to sprint….so stay home, you bring nothing to the table. If you are not attacking & not sprinting…how are you going to win? Or do you just enjoy paying your $29 for a group ride? You are a cat VI piker!
So just to make things absolutely clear:
The sprint was dangerous. There was a lot of jockeying and bumping. I was on the left side of the pack. I felt either an elbow or a shove that sent me into one of those large 4’wide traffic cones that were on the line. I hit the cone hard and bounced off of it – lost control of the bike. Fell on right side hard, and started sliding in the bike lane. If it hadn’t been for the cone, the whole unfortunate event wouldn’t exist. I feel sick.
prospect park races having the finish on the hill is a good idea to solve some of the problems. unfortunate that this had to happen first in order to start thinking of making changes.
anything you say or write can and will be used against you
What places were people sprinting for where all that bumping and grinding was happening?
good idea to have the finish up the hill.