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Here’s an interview

The idea is so devilishly simple, that it just might work. With racing coverage in the US starting to ebb because the good ship Armstrong sailed, there was an opportunity to fill in the coverage gaps. So why not just stream the TV coverage of European races on the internet? It gives those TV networks another media outlet for their broadcasts, and it gives shut out cycling fans a chance to see the races they only read about in the pages of cycling magazines, in that little tiny print.

Simon Brydon, CEO of Cycling.tv, would have you believe that he started cyling.tv to see more races himself, but I suspect he’s a super-genius bent on world-wide domination of cycling media. Well, that may be a slight exaggeration. I interviewed Simon and Anthony McCrossan, Cycling.tv’s Commentator, to see whether they intended to turn us into Euro stream hungry drones or as they claim, give us an opportunity to see more cycling. In the interest of full disclosure, we are a Cycling.tv affiliate. So click on the banner at the top and sign up already! Not only have we drank the Cycling.tv Kool Aid here, we also are mixing a big barrel full for everyone in the New York area.

Schmalz: How difficult is it to negotiate the rights to stream video of the races from different countries? It obtaining the rights your greatest challenge?

Simon: To start with, rights were difficult but we gained the trust of rights owners very quickly and as we were adding new value – no strings attached we were able to work with them.

Schmalz: You must go to sleep tossing and turning about bandwidth challenges.

Simon: The odd terabyte or ten has given me some concern!

Schmalz: Are you going to start creating original content? Do you need shows produced by a category 3 New York racer?

Simon: We do produce original content: we filmed with team CSC earlier this year and we also make news and documentary features. We produce the British Premier Calendar road racing series for Eurosport and we are always looking for interesting features from category 3’s or anyone!

Cycling.tv has also partnered with OLN to stream the Giro coverage, but instead of just streaming the race this year, they are showing the races with commentary also.

I got yer cat 3 original feature riiiiight heah!

Schmalz: Describe your relationship with OLN and how it came about.

Simon: We knew that OLN watched Cycling.tv and we had so many people complaining about the lack of cycling and we knew that last year OLN web streamed it without commentary and we thought that our users would appreciate the Giro on cycling.tv so we sat down with OLN in January to work out a suitable agreement.

Schmalz: Any thoughts about streaming other endurance sports to expand your viewer base? In the winter I think it would be a logical cross over to do Nordic (or cross-country as it’s known in the US) skiing events, even speed skating would be a good winter fill in also. Maybe even a triathlon channel on your site. Man – those people spend a lot of money! Every bike shop owner I know does a little dance when a triathlon guy comes through the door.

Simon: We’re going to build our triathlon channel as a priority and also more leisure cycling material.

Schmalz: Do you get sick of people offering broadcast ideas? Like the ideas I just offered?

Simon: We get a few; we’re always looking for producers who know how to make a deal work. They have to take control of their own financial destiny on productions and we’ll help them in any way.

I then turned my attention to Anthony, the Cycling.tv commentator. Who, I’m sure has taken more shots than Mike Tyson’s speed bag. The internet is such a loving place. Have you ever tried to talk for 3 hours? Have you? I didn’t think so.

Schmalz: What does the commentary booth look like? Is it your living room? C’mon you can be honest? I work at home, so I’m usually dressed like “the Dude” from “The Big Lebowski”. I shave about once a week or so.

Anthony: I wish it was my living room! As with all commentary booths I have ever been in, it is small, homely, hot, full of velo books, paper, maps, bottles of water, Brian’s notes etc. However, where would you rather be! Watching cycling in a darkened room, or behind a desk at work!!

Schmalz: People on the internet can be brutal – just look at the comments sections on our site. Do you get a lot of heat from know-it-alls when you mispronounce something or slip up? If I had a quarter for every time I’ve been called a knuckle head…

Anthony: If you can’t take the criticism, never be a commentator! At least I provoke discussion which is not a bad thing. This sport is colorful, exciting, and glamorous and everyone has an opinion. I am lucky enough to be able to voice it.

Schmalz: How did you get into commentary? Other sports seem to have schools of broadcasting, etc., but cycling seems to attract commentators who are fans first, broadcasters second – which I prefer by the way.

Anthony: I rode as a junior and senior after watching the World champs in 1982, but was a real fan. My first commentary was a city criterium in England. I just got asked to do more and more after that. I have commentated to one man and his dog in the rain! Bit by bit I got asked to do national champs, televised races, tours such as Tour of Britain, Eurosport and now Cycling.tv.

Schmalz: Are those pro guys really emailing you?

Anthony: The pro teams do phone and email. Brian has good contact with lots of teams so he must be credited with that!

Schmalz: It has to be nuts trying to spot riders in the sprints and during the races via a TV monitor. What’s your secret?

Anthony: It is hard to spot riders. I am not sure there is a secret! I find it better to have a go than not to mention anything. 9 times out of 10 you are right. Spanish TV pictures are hardest to spot riders in. In the finale, I watch the moves from above with the helicopter and have a number of riders that I think may win. I generally note the top 6 riders. In the strings. If Brian is with me, he is normally pointing at the winning move on the screen!

Schmalz: Do you have a favorite racer? I don’t think I could even pretend to be objective about the racers. Personally I would giggle every time Salvatore Commesso showed up on camera, but I’m half a wingnut…

Anthony: Favorite rider, this is difficult. I enjoy seeing the classics riders. Paris Roubaix is my favorite race by far. This season I have been impressed by Frank Schleck, Samuel Sanchez and I think Thomas Dekker is a huge talent for the future.

Anthony then politely excused himself from any more inane questioning, so I could return my focus back to Simon.

Schmalz: I know you are doing both on demand and streaming video now. Where do you predict internet cycling broadcasting going in the future? Will it be more of a streaming model or a itunes on demand type situation? Does it matter? Do you want to make the jump to traditional TV?

Simon: We’re going to be delivering straight to TV in the UK soon via a dual internet/gigital model and we’re launching our own download model very soon. I see it going wireless. One million people on the side of Alp d’Huez watching the Tour on their handhelds! It will be everything…Mobile, TVs, on demand, download…

Schmalz: Could you foresee doing a channel where you show classic races from the past? Races with Merckx, Coppi, and all of the legends? Or is it just too difficult to get access to those race videos?

Simon: We’re working at developing rights for owners archives.

Schmalz: That’s a model of world domination for sure! It would be relentlessly addictive. I can just imagine the roadside spectators knocking into the racers as they are watching their mobile screens instead of watching where they are going.

Simon: The plan would be that for those 15 minutes they at least watch the live racing! But as you can imagine if there is one sport made for wireless it’s cycling! Wait hours for 30 seconds!

There you have it, you will soon be able to see races wherever you go: roadside at the Tour, in the Velodrome at Roubaix, even at religious services. How can this be a bad thing?

29 Comments

kevin b.

great interview…i was hoping for a little dig on anthony’s "water-bottle-banter"
by the way…that picture is waaay more disturbing than ANY of my colorful race reports.
thank god i already ate lunch!

CF

Those pictures are great. The dog watching Dan on the screen is hilarious. Is the dog supposed to be working?

Michael Green

Another network, World Championship Sports Network is doing cycling, skating, track, skiing and swimming. They are on the internet wcsn.com and also are getting into cable TV. In NYC they have some air time on SNY, the Mets new channel. I saw their track World’s and the cyclocross worlds. The quality was very good but it was shown on SNY months after the events. John Eustice was the commentator for the Cycling Cross. He thinks WCSN will do a lot more cycling and is working with them.

Besides Euro feeds it would be great to get some coverage for the USPRO cirucit. TV coverage is necessary to take USPRO to the next level.
If cycling-tv is doing the British pros , you’d think would do more coverage of the better USPRO races.

lee3

Long time hater of OLN ever since the Vuelta fiasco of 04′. They were going downhill long before that but that was the box that broke my back. I’m more than thrilled that you guys picked up the slack and can now say with a straight face that it is Cycling.tv that has it in the "BIG RING"!

Mike D Cyciing.tv

We’re now trying hard to get coverage of U.S. races on cycling.tv – alot of it depends on race finances, frankly, because producing them is costly with Helis, motorbikes, stationary cams, etc. We hope to have alot more US racing coverage by this time next year.

JG

what do you think, is the bam chicka bam bam dog captivated by schmalz or the tulips in the backround?

Great interview, cycling.tv has been a god send this year. We all got to watch Paris-Roubaix and all of the spring classics live! What more can I say…

On another note, I guess we have to give oln, the only lance network, a small pat on the back for teaming up with cycling.tv for the giro.

I look forward to viewing/dowloading/cell phone watching and hopefully watching the u s pro tour series in the future. well done, I love watching cycling everyday.

Justin

I was in London last February and got on the Undergound after "more than a couple" of pints and proceeded to bore some poor guy who had a Tour of Britain bag and a copy of cycling weekly. Turned out he was one of the cycling.tv owners – not sure if it was one of the guys Schmaltz interviewed. Cool concept though – I’m a subscriber.

lee3

It looks like Tour of California would be a good kick-off. They have a pretty comprehensive site except nothing works. The Georgia race is also a great one, however the Tour of Gila race, USPRO, and others always slip through the cracks of video images to the US market. OLN just sorta left it all hanging – like a snub. A sorta no Lance, no coverage attitude just festered resentment to thier network. It was ridiculous. Eventually they stomped out the cyclng msg board and all that was left was "Beach Bikini game shows and Bar B Q cook offs and let us not forget the awesome Fishing coverage! I love Lance but OLN really hit ya over the head with the constant Lance-a-thon like mania. Who doesnt think the word "Cyclism" is a friggen stupid word? Even the commentation (Roll and on rare occasion sometimes Liggett) seemed to be the Postal/Discovery rah rah section. It was too much. Its refreshing to hear commentary on ALL of the athletes from Brian and Anthony. You guys keep it honest. Brain sorta reminds me of Sean Kelly Commentary. With listening to the both of you I can understand the successful formula for good cycling commentary. There has to be the wily pro (Brian, Sherwen,Kelly types) juxtaposed with the educated observer (McCrossan, Liggett, and that Eurosport guy Dave?) It works well. I liked Roll when he did Vuelta with Sherwin and the Domestic stuff, but it seemed like he couldnt do a race without praising the boss. Local commentation is just sad. I liken the tone to that of the Skateboard/Snowboard coverage. They try to generate excitement at dumb moments. Someone would go on an attack and the commentator would react as if he just saw someone do a backflip with an unspilled martini in hand.

PROSPECT PARK

SCHMULTZFUZ

You should spell your name like this and in all cap. all the time.

I will pay you the 12.5 cents the next time I see you…not really cause then I would have to come out from behind my leafy mask.

HATER SUCKS, SCHMULTZFUZ is entertaining and that lee3 comment is right on.

PP

Faber

Great work Schmalz! McCrossan and Smith are now a daily part of my cycling diet. The Cycling.TV/OLN deal is even better than when Peanut Butter met chocolate. Viva La Cycling.tv! I could not wipe the grin off my face after watching yesterday’s beautiful stage through the Italian woods leading up to that beautifully heartbreaking uphill finish of Axel Merckx. Truly a godsend!

JT

NOT LIVE but the DVD "PRO" has good coverage of the Philly Pro race from one year, and the other pro races in "Philly week." Really good.

lee3

What a gutsy ride by Axel! Just as the finish was happening my boss walked up on me. BUSTEAAAAAAD!

JT

Also, back in the day Eustice produced coverage of the top men’s races at Harriman (the year Peter Mazur won — he’s now on Saunier Duval) and even a 70+ mile Floyd race. On video. I don’t know if he was ever able to get that on TV. Also Univest, which was shown on local TV in Penna.

JT

Faber, chocolate meeting peanut butter is nice, but the really good part is getting the chocolate *into* the peanut butter….

JT

In the Eustice productions, some (Harriman and Floyd I think) were just Eustice and some had co-commentators. I saw a Univest with Vaughters co-commentating, and another with Catherine Chatham (former top CRCA rider). Chatham was really good for a cyclist audience — really insightful and really harsh or complimentary as appropriate.

PROSPECT PARK

JT, You must be stoped your out of control. I mean DAMN!
Why not tells us what your really thinking.

UGH

PP

Anthony-Cycling.tv

Hello, I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for watching Cycling.tv and for responding to the interview. In particular, I was prompted to respond by the post from Justin about meeting a guy on the London Underground. Justin, it was me you met, thanks for subscribing, thanks for listening to the commentaries! Brian and I are enjoying giving you all an insight to this great sport. All the best.

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