Someone once said that riding this bikes is like pancakes sliding off of a plate. I know, it didn’t make any sense to me either.
Wheelsucker
these will be even less successful than the Team United bikes from a couple of years ago.
Wheelsucker
LA had to be pissed riding into Paris with AC on that, and LA on a pink butterfly bike. Like a bad joke.
West Coast Reader
I think they meant you’ll hate yourself as who wants their pancakes sliding off their plate?
West Coast Reader
Is is also high in protein and good for you? Is this the beginning of flax being added to everything on the planet?
West Coast Reader
This one looks a lot better, but I’d still rather own a Ulrich.
West Coast Reader
I second the Team United success.
tjosdca
Awesome!
Wheelsucker
Makes perfect sense to me. That person must have been a genius.
Wheelsucker
…in fact, let’s make that prominent…
…WILIER…the company may have been around for a long time but they totally screwed a buddy of mine when his frame broke…
…the shop tried to deal w/ it but even they were left w/ egg on their face ‘cuz the rep passed the buck on to the company saying that he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) deal w/ it & WILIER wouldn’t actually discuss the situation…
…more vague generalizations & buck passing without any conclusive discussion…
…wishy washy bullshit from a “prominent” & “reputable” european bicycle manufacturer…
…i wouldn’t recommend WILIER, if they were giving framesets away…
…w/ no love lost, bikesgonewild…
Wheelsucker
…across…
…WILIER…the company may have been around for a long time but they totally screwed a buddy of mine when his frame broke…
…the shop tried to deal w/ it but even they were left w/ egg on their face ‘cuz the rep passed the buck on to the company saying that he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) deal w/ it & WILIER wouldn’t actually discuss the situation…
…more vague generalizations & buck passing without any conclusive discussion…
…wishy washy bullshit from a “prominent” & “reputable” european bicycle manufacturer…
…i wouldn’t recommend WILIER, if they were giving framesets away…
…w/ no love lost, bikesgonewild…
Wheelsucker
…looks like my friends zellner n’ hatch…
…hard ta tell for sure…
…love, bgw…
Andy
It’s Hatch for sure. My hit count instincts suck so much I shot the bike but not Liz.
Wheelsucker
…that’s disturbing…i mean, sheesh, all those bikes start lookin’ the same after awhile…ya gotta expand yer foto horizons…
…anyway, yep…liz hatch n’ robin zellner, he of the now defunct (de-funked ???) kodak gallery – sierra nevada pro cycling team…
…rz’s a local out here…liz is looking to set herself up in europe again next season…
Wheelsucker
Liz Hatch is “road cycling hot.” Thats it.
She is garbage on the bike. She is only popular because she looks good in ads next to bike swag. She barely cracks the top 20 in regional Cat1 races. Sad that she gets so much press and women like Stevens are dominating in Europe, signed to Columbia (a real pro team) and setting the tempo on the front of the World Champs.
Enough of Hatch being linked to being a real bike racer.
Wheelsucker
…ya really feel the need to call another cyclist “garbage on the bike” because she doesn’t have the experience of some & yet happens to get more press than one of your favorites ???…you are fucking sad, dude…
…i guess you’re only willing to support women’s cycling if the particular women measure up to “your standards”…
…btw, you forgot to reveal those standards by mentioning just how good you are (cat 1 ???) & how many years it took you to get there…
…& while that’s immaterial i just thought if you’re gonna take shots at another racer who, it’s obvious is trying her best, at least reveal who you are so your friends & fellow riders realize what a douche bag you really are…
…it may be somewhat rhetorical, but yes, i do feel the need to call you a douche bag…
Wheelsucker
The last post was brought to you by the Liz Hatch fan club
Wheelsucker
what, exactly, is a “douche bag?”
we toss it around so effortlessly, like a gel wrapper on 9w, yet don’t know the true meaning of the word.
Wheelsucker
ES is out of this world talented coming to the sport on fluke if not dare…nextyear she will win LBL!!! or some other WC race.
Liz is a good cyclist and getting better, she is PR/media savvy…good for her, and those of us that appreciate the lifestyle…
I can appreciate both…personality counts. Neither feels entitled like CONNOR…they both work for their support.
I wish ES and LH both success, on and off the bike.
Wheelsucker
I wish Andres Diaz success on and off the bike.
really
I wish CJ success half-off the bike
Wheelsucker
Any one putting themselves out in the public as a professional athlete/model is open game to critism as regards their sporting talent. Go on a NY Yankee forum or better yet a Manchester United Forum and the “fans” are much worse to thier players than the post below. Hatch gets too much credit as being a “top” female cyclist because she is in Maxim and is hot. She has a good PR team for sure but is not even in the top 25 for best US women cyclists. However, other women racers, much better and maybe less good looing get much less recognition. That is a shame. Katie Compton and ES are probably the best shot at a Worlds Gold the US will have for many years (men or women) and hardly anyone knows who they are.
Wheelsucker
Uh, no one besides bike nerds knows who Liz Hatch is, either. You may as well be a Star Wars fan talking about the differences between Ponda Baba and Walrus Man.
Wheelsucker
The word “douche” comes from the French language, in which its principal meaning is a shower (it is thus a notorious false friend encountered by non-native speakers of English; the French phrase for vaginal douching is douche vaginale, meaning vaginal shower). The word “douche” is also used in English as a derogatory slang term (see slang uses below).
Overview
Vaginal douches may consist of water, water mixed with vinegar, or even antiseptic chemicals. Douching has been touted as having a number of supposed but unproven benefits. In addition to promising to clean the vagina of unwanted odors, it can also be used by women who wish to avoid smearing a sexual partner’s penis with menstrual blood while having intercourse during menstruation. In the past, douching was also used after intercourse as a method of birth control, though it is not effective (see below).
Many health care professionals state that douching is dangerous, as it interferes with both the vagina’s normal self-cleaning and with the natural bacterial culture of the vagina, and it might spread or introduce infections. For example, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services strongly discourages douching, warning that it can lead to irritation, bacterial vaginosis, and pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). Frequent douching with water may result in an imbalance of the pH of the vagina, and thus may put women at risk for possible vaginal infections, especially yeast infections.[1]
In May 2003, a randomized, controlled, multi-center study was conducted with 1827 women ages 18–44 who were regular users of a douche product and who had been treated recently for a sexually transmitted bacterial infection or bacterial vaginosis. Women were randomly assigned to use either a newly designed and marketed douche product or a soft cloth towelette. There was little or no indication of a greater risk of PID among women assigned to use the douche product (versus soft cloth towelette). Douching may be related to a lower probability that a woman becomes pregnant.[2]
Antiseptics may also result in an imbalance of the natural bacteria in the vagina, also resulting in an increased likelihood of infection.[3] Furthermore, unclean douching equipment may also introduce undesirable foreign bodies into the vagina. For these reasons, the practice of douching is now strongly discouraged except when ordered by a physician for specific medical reasons.[3] Douching may also wash bacteria into the uterus and Fallopian tubes, causing fertility problems.[4]
In May 2007, 40 women were enrolled in a open-label trial. The women all had bacterial vaginosis as defined by Amsel’s criteria and were treated for 6 days with a douche containing Lactobacillus acidophilus. Vaginal smears were collected from the patients and analyzed according to Nugent’s criteria at the time of diagnosis, after 6 days of treatment, and again at 20 days after the last treatment. At the same times, determination of vaginal pH and a Whiff test were performed. RESULTS: The Nugent score decreased significantly from bacterial vaginosis or an intermediate flora toward a normal flora during treatment, and remained low during the follow-up period for almost all of the patients, indicating bacterial vaginosis in 52.5% and in 7.5% of the patients before treatment and at follow-up, respectively. After treatment, significant decreases in vaginal pH were observed, to less than pH 4.5 in 34/40 women, and the odor test became negative in all of the patients. CONCLUSIONS: In this preliminary study, treatment of bacterial vaginosis with a vaginal douche containing a strain of L. acidophilus contributed to the restoration of a normal vaginal environment.[5]
Douching after intercourse is estimated to reduce the chances of conception by only 15-25%. In comparison, proper condom use reduces the chance of conception by as much as 97%. In some cases douching may force the ejaculate further into the vagina, increasing the chance of pregnancy. A review of studies by researchers at the University of Rochester Medical Center (N.Y.) showed that women who douched regularly and later became pregnant had higher rates of ectopic pregnancy, infections, and low birth weight infants than women who only douched occasionally or who never douched.[3]
The practice of douching is now largely restricted to the United States, where douching equipment is often available in pharmacies. A 1995 survey quoted in the University of Rochester study found that 27 percent of U.S. women age 15 to 44 douched regularly, but that douching was more common among African-American women (over 50%) than among white women (21%).[3]
The irrigation of the anus is also known as an enema.
Slang uses
Douchebag, or simply douche, is considered to be a pejorative term in North America, the United Kingdom and some other English speaking countries. In some English speaking countries the term is not well known. The slang usage of the term dates back to the 1960s.[6] The term implies a variety of negative qualities, specifically arrogance and engaging in obnoxious and/or irritating actions without malicious intent. It is generally used for males only.
Wheelsucker
..what an actual “douche bag” is & therefore i may have to dispense w/ using the term & as it doesn’t do justice to the self serving banter of a person like “wheelsucker 1:54pm”…
…while it doesn’t really role off the tongue, perhaps more colorful terminology such as “you sir, are the displaced effluvium that is disgorged after use by an underused douche bag” would better suit the situation…
…has a bit of an “english-y, years gone by” ring, what not, old chap ???…
…post script:- btw, re:- “The last post was brought to you by the Liz Hatch fan club”…to be quite honest w/ “whoever you are”…i don’t wish this to sound as if i’m exceedingly magnanimous because monetarily i can’t afford much but i have a number of women friends that have ridden ‘worlds’ as national team members & when appropriate, i contribute out of pocket…
…in other words, “i put my money where my mouth is” to support all women’s cycling…how about you ???…might be a good time to start…
Wheelsucker
you are a douche bag
Wheelsucker
wow, Andy, imagine if you actually took a photo of her.
INVG
Are Focus bikes being distributed in the US this coming year?
Razzante Drainhole
Does the RR bike come with a happy ending?
Wheelsucker
What the FLAX!!! Supposed to be very smooth over cobbles
Wheelsucker
uh uh uh…maybe it should like spiral a bit with a huge nuts BB like the redneck trailer hitches???
Wheelsucker
she has Columbia kit and bike already! Riding very easy recovery laps with MK…very impressive!!!
Congratz to both!
What a trip fantastic year they have had!!!
Wheelsucker
I bet you she is a TT beast next year. She was winning stuff this year with borrowed bikes and crappy position. With her own Plasma 3 and that kick ass Uvex helmet, she will be unstopable.
Wheelsucker
This is my new hot frame and probably the only bike I’d willingly sell my BMC for. I love everything about it (paint scheme, cable routing – which should be the bench standard of all frame makers, carbon aesthetics, and all around sexiness) Actually the fact that the cables are routed inside really sold me on it. I dont think they did this last season.
Very cool frame. How much? I’m standin in line!
-lee3
Wheelsucker
Larry Flynt would be proud! I friggen luuuuuv this bike.
-lee3
Ermanno Ergopower
I hope so. I’m lookin to pounce.
-lee3
yea....right.
I just saw the suggested price tag – and got a little lightheaded. No way would I pay that kinda dough for a ‘bike’
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Someone once said that riding this bikes is like pancakes sliding off of a plate. I know, it didn’t make any sense to me either.
these will be even less successful than the Team United bikes from a couple of years ago.
LA had to be pissed riding into Paris with AC on that, and LA on a pink butterfly bike. Like a bad joke.
I think they meant you’ll hate yourself as who wants their pancakes sliding off their plate?
Is is also high in protein and good for you? Is this the beginning of flax being added to everything on the planet?
This one looks a lot better, but I’d still rather own a Ulrich.
I second the Team United success.
Awesome!
Makes perfect sense to me. That person must have been a genius.
…in fact, let’s make that prominent…
…WILIER…the company may have been around for a long time but they totally screwed a buddy of mine when his frame broke…
…the shop tried to deal w/ it but even they were left w/ egg on their face ‘cuz the rep passed the buck on to the company saying that he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) deal w/ it & WILIER wouldn’t actually discuss the situation…
…more vague generalizations & buck passing without any conclusive discussion…
…wishy washy bullshit from a “prominent” & “reputable” european bicycle manufacturer…
…i wouldn’t recommend WILIER, if they were giving framesets away…
…w/ no love lost, bikesgonewild…
…across…
…WILIER…the company may have been around for a long time but they totally screwed a buddy of mine when his frame broke…
…the shop tried to deal w/ it but even they were left w/ egg on their face ‘cuz the rep passed the buck on to the company saying that he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) deal w/ it & WILIER wouldn’t actually discuss the situation…
…more vague generalizations & buck passing without any conclusive discussion…
…wishy washy bullshit from a “prominent” & “reputable” european bicycle manufacturer…
…i wouldn’t recommend WILIER, if they were giving framesets away…
…w/ no love lost, bikesgonewild…
…looks like my friends zellner n’ hatch…
…hard ta tell for sure…
…love, bgw…
It’s Hatch for sure. My hit count instincts suck so much I shot the bike but not Liz.
…that’s disturbing…i mean, sheesh, all those bikes start lookin’ the same after awhile…ya gotta expand yer foto horizons…
…anyway, yep…liz hatch n’ robin zellner, he of the now defunct (de-funked ???) kodak gallery – sierra nevada pro cycling team…
…rz’s a local out here…liz is looking to set herself up in europe again next season…
Liz Hatch is “road cycling hot.” Thats it.
She is garbage on the bike. She is only popular because she looks good in ads next to bike swag. She barely cracks the top 20 in regional Cat1 races. Sad that she gets so much press and women like Stevens are dominating in Europe, signed to Columbia (a real pro team) and setting the tempo on the front of the World Champs.
Enough of Hatch being linked to being a real bike racer.
…ya really feel the need to call another cyclist “garbage on the bike” because she doesn’t have the experience of some & yet happens to get more press than one of your favorites ???…you are fucking sad, dude…
…i guess you’re only willing to support women’s cycling if the particular women measure up to “your standards”…
…btw, you forgot to reveal those standards by mentioning just how good you are (cat 1 ???) & how many years it took you to get there…
…& while that’s immaterial i just thought if you’re gonna take shots at another racer who, it’s obvious is trying her best, at least reveal who you are so your friends & fellow riders realize what a douche bag you really are…
…it may be somewhat rhetorical, but yes, i do feel the need to call you a douche bag…
The last post was brought to you by the Liz Hatch fan club
what, exactly, is a “douche bag?”
we toss it around so effortlessly, like a gel wrapper on 9w, yet don’t know the true meaning of the word.
ES is out of this world talented coming to the sport on fluke if not dare…nextyear she will win LBL!!! or some other WC race.
Liz is a good cyclist and getting better, she is PR/media savvy…good for her, and those of us that appreciate the lifestyle…
I can appreciate both…personality counts. Neither feels entitled like CONNOR…they both work for their support.
I wish ES and LH both success, on and off the bike.
I wish Andres Diaz success on and off the bike.
I wish CJ success half-off the bike
Any one putting themselves out in the public as a professional athlete/model is open game to critism as regards their sporting talent. Go on a NY Yankee forum or better yet a Manchester United Forum and the “fans” are much worse to thier players than the post below. Hatch gets too much credit as being a “top” female cyclist because she is in Maxim and is hot. She has a good PR team for sure but is not even in the top 25 for best US women cyclists. However, other women racers, much better and maybe less good looing get much less recognition. That is a shame. Katie Compton and ES are probably the best shot at a Worlds Gold the US will have for many years (men or women) and hardly anyone knows who they are.
Uh, no one besides bike nerds knows who Liz Hatch is, either. You may as well be a Star Wars fan talking about the differences between Ponda Baba and Walrus Man.
The word “douche” comes from the French language, in which its principal meaning is a shower (it is thus a notorious false friend encountered by non-native speakers of English; the French phrase for vaginal douching is douche vaginale, meaning vaginal shower). The word “douche” is also used in English as a derogatory slang term (see slang uses below).
Overview
Vaginal douches may consist of water, water mixed with vinegar, or even antiseptic chemicals. Douching has been touted as having a number of supposed but unproven benefits. In addition to promising to clean the vagina of unwanted odors, it can also be used by women who wish to avoid smearing a sexual partner’s penis with menstrual blood while having intercourse during menstruation. In the past, douching was also used after intercourse as a method of birth control, though it is not effective (see below).
Many health care professionals state that douching is dangerous, as it interferes with both the vagina’s normal self-cleaning and with the natural bacterial culture of the vagina, and it might spread or introduce infections. For example, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services strongly discourages douching, warning that it can lead to irritation, bacterial vaginosis, and pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). Frequent douching with water may result in an imbalance of the pH of the vagina, and thus may put women at risk for possible vaginal infections, especially yeast infections.[1]
In May 2003, a randomized, controlled, multi-center study was conducted with 1827 women ages 18–44 who were regular users of a douche product and who had been treated recently for a sexually transmitted bacterial infection or bacterial vaginosis. Women were randomly assigned to use either a newly designed and marketed douche product or a soft cloth towelette. There was little or no indication of a greater risk of PID among women assigned to use the douche product (versus soft cloth towelette). Douching may be related to a lower probability that a woman becomes pregnant.[2]
Antiseptics may also result in an imbalance of the natural bacteria in the vagina, also resulting in an increased likelihood of infection.[3] Furthermore, unclean douching equipment may also introduce undesirable foreign bodies into the vagina. For these reasons, the practice of douching is now strongly discouraged except when ordered by a physician for specific medical reasons.[3] Douching may also wash bacteria into the uterus and Fallopian tubes, causing fertility problems.[4]
In May 2007, 40 women were enrolled in a open-label trial. The women all had bacterial vaginosis as defined by Amsel’s criteria and were treated for 6 days with a douche containing Lactobacillus acidophilus. Vaginal smears were collected from the patients and analyzed according to Nugent’s criteria at the time of diagnosis, after 6 days of treatment, and again at 20 days after the last treatment. At the same times, determination of vaginal pH and a Whiff test were performed. RESULTS: The Nugent score decreased significantly from bacterial vaginosis or an intermediate flora toward a normal flora during treatment, and remained low during the follow-up period for almost all of the patients, indicating bacterial vaginosis in 52.5% and in 7.5% of the patients before treatment and at follow-up, respectively. After treatment, significant decreases in vaginal pH were observed, to less than pH 4.5 in 34/40 women, and the odor test became negative in all of the patients. CONCLUSIONS: In this preliminary study, treatment of bacterial vaginosis with a vaginal douche containing a strain of L. acidophilus contributed to the restoration of a normal vaginal environment.[5]
Douching after intercourse is estimated to reduce the chances of conception by only 15-25%. In comparison, proper condom use reduces the chance of conception by as much as 97%. In some cases douching may force the ejaculate further into the vagina, increasing the chance of pregnancy. A review of studies by researchers at the University of Rochester Medical Center (N.Y.) showed that women who douched regularly and later became pregnant had higher rates of ectopic pregnancy, infections, and low birth weight infants than women who only douched occasionally or who never douched.[3]
The practice of douching is now largely restricted to the United States, where douching equipment is often available in pharmacies. A 1995 survey quoted in the University of Rochester study found that 27 percent of U.S. women age 15 to 44 douched regularly, but that douching was more common among African-American women (over 50%) than among white women (21%).[3]
The irrigation of the anus is also known as an enema.
Slang uses
Douchebag, or simply douche, is considered to be a pejorative term in North America, the United Kingdom and some other English speaking countries. In some English speaking countries the term is not well known. The slang usage of the term dates back to the 1960s.[6] The term implies a variety of negative qualities, specifically arrogance and engaging in obnoxious and/or irritating actions without malicious intent. It is generally used for males only.
..what an actual “douche bag” is & therefore i may have to dispense w/ using the term & as it doesn’t do justice to the self serving banter of a person like “wheelsucker 1:54pm”…
…while it doesn’t really role off the tongue, perhaps more colorful terminology such as “you sir, are the displaced effluvium that is disgorged after use by an underused douche bag” would better suit the situation…
…has a bit of an “english-y, years gone by” ring, what not, old chap ???…
…pip, pip, tallyho, bgw…
************************************************************
…post script:- btw, re:- “The last post was brought to you by the Liz Hatch fan club”…to be quite honest w/ “whoever you are”…i don’t wish this to sound as if i’m exceedingly magnanimous because monetarily i can’t afford much but i have a number of women friends that have ridden ‘worlds’ as national team members & when appropriate, i contribute out of pocket…
…in other words, “i put my money where my mouth is” to support all women’s cycling…how about you ???…might be a good time to start…
you are a douche bag
wow, Andy, imagine if you actually took a photo of her.
Are Focus bikes being distributed in the US this coming year?
Does the RR bike come with a happy ending?
What the FLAX!!! Supposed to be very smooth over cobbles
uh uh uh…maybe it should like spiral a bit with a huge nuts BB like the redneck trailer hitches???
she has Columbia kit and bike already! Riding very easy recovery laps with MK…very impressive!!!
Congratz to both!
What a trip fantastic year they have had!!!
I bet you she is a TT beast next year. She was winning stuff this year with borrowed bikes and crappy position. With her own Plasma 3 and that kick ass Uvex helmet, she will be unstopable.
This is my new hot frame and probably the only bike I’d willingly sell my BMC for. I love everything about it (paint scheme, cable routing – which should be the bench standard of all frame makers, carbon aesthetics, and all around sexiness) Actually the fact that the cables are routed inside really sold me on it. I dont think they did this last season.
Very cool frame. How much? I’m standin in line!
-lee3
Larry Flynt would be proud! I friggen luuuuuv this bike.
-lee3
I hope so. I’m lookin to pounce.
-lee3
I just saw the suggested price tag – and got a little lightheaded. No way would I pay that kinda dough for a ‘bike’
http://www.bikerumor.com/2009/07/31/team-milrams-focus-race-bikes-hitting-us-shores/
I’ll wait for the 60% off sale.
-lee
For a Taiwanese mold with nice paint.
The Quartz mountain pedal is light, stable and offers a large platform or contact area. It’s a very simple design with no spring thus allowing maximum mud-shedding ability. Also, it offers the Look quality seen on the Road Keo pedals. These pedals spin on bearings too for maximum performance.top secret fat loss secret review