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The Balloon Festival Race?

A balloon festival doesnt sound like much of a festival. Oh look, a balloon. Yay. Let’s go home.

Free donuts and coffee for fattest guy to show up in full assos and Serotta carbon and get dropped on Central Ave.

Ballon fest. It sounds so nice

Oh look! There’s a balloon! Let’s drink beer!

you’re all sleeping on jon chodroff from empire. he’s listed as starting the FBF TT and will be the one to beat.

Let me rephrase then. Chodroff 1st and then the rest as previously stated

He will beat Chodroff. No question…

not a new race. it’s part of the NJBA cat 3 cup.

Kicks off also

The smart money says Ken H. crushes O’Donnell.

On a flat course (FBF qualifies) I pick O’Donnell over Chodroff and Zmolik. If it were uphill I would pick Chodroff to beat O’Donnell.

I heard that the road surface at Floyd is really rough. What do people think about running a mountain bike with aerobars fro the TT? I see people on the bikepath with this set up and they are usually going really fast

Is there day of registration? Online closed a few days ago for some silly reason.

2 laps in the park is not 40k

can zmolik even ride. isn’t he injured?

will not be in O’Donnell’s league. He would be cannibal, but not TT.

TTing makes you look like a turtle. so i like TTs.

I heard Dr. Will shaved his eyebrows off and had his testicals removed because it allowed him to get lower and more aero on the bike.

I heard Will O’D hangs out with Chuck Norris and drinks potato ethanol straight up.

yeah I eat slipstream burritos, I eat that shit for breakfast, lunch and dinner!

Kasak vodka

Empire is a domestic pro squad.

as a newbie pro.

I analyzed my last two laps and came to the conclusion the W.O. could beat me in a TT

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/222607

WOW…..That’s a huge blow to my target Race (Tour OF Christiana.) That blows!!! I hope they can pull together and make it happen. I too blame big oil!! I guess I’ll have to start looking at other stage races.

Ken Lundgren will beat the good doctor

My money is on Big Brown, Greg Olsen, who has the most aero arm warmers in the region.

We should set up an OTB at Floyd; I’m sure some of the finance guys here can manufacture some kind of derivative whereby we could wager on the relative chances of Dr. Will beating Big Brown (the equine one) in some sort of watt-per-kilogram adjusted alternate universe…

You can still sign up for the qualifier day of. Bring your releases already filled out.

Dammit. With 149lb Pinotti putting out 374 watts for 28k uphill in the Giro … and Ken doing 375 on a rolling CP course for 12 miles … we should send these guys to Europe! 🙂

Keep in mind that with the current exchange rate that 1 American watt is only worth .635 Euro watts

ESG is a real hoot last year totally screwy, started half hour late — nothing like seeing moms pushing strollers into the park at 9:15 with 125 guys whipping by in the park WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

god kevin molloy is so studley

one trick pony

you spend more time jock-riding instead of training.

and now for tonite’s emotional weather report: ” …high tonite, low tommorow, and precipitation is expected.”

where’s the 2nd release form for esg?

My apologies to Scarlett Johansson

Fastest time at the Philly TT…ODonnell hands Chodroff a 35 second defeat, 16:45 the Chodroff at 17:20.

in a 17minute effort, 35 seconds is an eternity. you can do 400 watts for 17minutes all you want, till you’re blue in the face, but its all about aerodynamics.

nice job to all. a better job by odonnell

FBF will be his if he shows up ready to go. all you CRCA boys can sit around and to the upgrade moaning on monday.

totally. hi doc!!

is winning, and riding super fast. A trick I’d like to have up my sleeve. In addition Will didn’t post that, he signs his posts and gets lambasted by you losers for it. Can’t wait til tomorrow…

didn’t do it so don’t know who qualified but heard there were 2 smaller breaks, then 200 riders sprinting for the last 2 spots. apparently the last half of the race was mayhem, with the jogger’s lane full of joggers (natch) strollers, dogs, rec riders etc and often wandering onto the course. Plenty of crashing too in the race.

now I know why normally races finish by 8.

I was totally blocked by the first 200 zillion. Guys, if you can’t sprint, get out of my way.

But seriously, the last hour was not ideal in a city park. Too crowded.

yes, TT’s are tri’s, exactly. I hate TT’s because I always feel like it comes down to how I do in the run, you know?

driving the cat 3 break……

Perfect!!!!!!

so why doesn’t someone protest at a race? wouldn’t the officials need to check the bike? without the protest it sounds like sour grapes.

ok, so what are USA Cyclist’s rules? What would happen at the nationals?

1 – Empire is NOT domestic pro
2 – a chiropractor is not a Medical Doctor, or a Doctor of Philosophy it is a “Doctor” degree created in 1994 by some chiropractor, and shouldn’t be slung from hip on the sly
3 – Tom Zirbel did have the record at Philly with a 16:55 in 2006, otherwise Boby Lea, and Mike Pudlinski (on a fixed track bike) have ridden 17:19, and a few have gone 17:20, so 16:45 would be the new record
4 – what else

….or the women’s race?

than guys like Arnal, Langley, Chodroff, Zmolik and hundreds of others. play by the same rules! And upgrade and go do real races!

If you are willing and able to spend the money to go to a wind tunnel your TT’s will improve. Money can not buy you work ethic but it can help you get a slippery position. TT’s can be thought of as watts/CdA (just as hills climbing prowess can be thought of as watts/kgs) The person with the highest w/CdA wins. At some point in ones training, the law of diminishing returns says that you wont add many more watts for the amount of work it would take. A visit to the wind tunnel can “add” 20-30-40-50 watts in an afternoon. (well you prolly have to train in that position as well) So it seems obvious to go do that.

Why is the BIG boy still a cat 3. Upgrade, go do big race, you can also try something other than tt and we’ll see.

yeah yeah, keep talking you old cat 5, stick up for someone you don’t even know

Has any one actually looked at his results? They’re mostly TT wins. The whole “he needs to upgrade” thing is wildly overblown.

In one discipline he may be. At least better than a lot, and most if not all the guys around here. The simple fact is that those results aren’t Cat 3 results and don’t count towards mandatory upgrades.

anyone got a link?

Does it surprise anyone that Schmaltz and Toto each won a race within a week of each other?

As a coach, the scary part is I know Will’s bike and position ARE UCI legal. I have been dealing with both the UCI and USAC rulebooks with the guys I have going to Nats (one Masters and one Elite) and have spoken with many people on the matter. I have spoken with Will on several occasions, also with his coach. I THOUGHT, too, that O’Donnell’s bike was not going to fly at NATS, but that bike is completely legit…

Dr. WO’s bike is UCI legal, his hand position is not. Look at the photos from Sandy Hook, from NJITT. his hands are not level with the ground, they are tilted way up. Not sure, Coach Lundgren, what planet you coach on, but here on this thar’ earth, your bars have to be horizontal , your arms in position. Your position as well is not UCI in your New Jersey photo.

Not suggesting he should be, as he isnt racing UCI races, but your statement is wrong.

His bars were parallel with the ground in today’s FBF TT. Acknowledge that he’s fast (faster than most of us) and then train harder. Stop griping like a bunch of 8th graders.

include Chodroff, Zmolik and Arnal in the same sentence with Russ Langly. Langley goes off the front solo or in groups of every NRC crit he enters, and he takes the Jersey in NRC prologues flat or hilly.

I think it’s awesome how fast Will is. Instead of whining and complaining you guys should be encouraged and motivated. But respecting someone else’s great performance just seems to be too hard for some on this site.

NYC rider results from Saturday:
Mark Alden wins 30/40+
Colin Prensky second in 3/4’s
John Cutler third in 5’s
Maria Quiroga eighth in Women’s

loser!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2008/jun08/saguenay08/saguenay081

I’m a little slow this morning

http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=6478

http://www.amazon.com/Might-Well-Win-Mastermind-Record-Setting/dp/0618879374

Tony told me last night that Ken is in good form and that he will break 24 minutes. So will Dan Zmolik I think. Will O’Donnell will take it with a high 22 minute effort, say 22:47 with Zmolik 2nd with 23:32 and Ken third with 23:48. If on the other hand O’Donnell has a good day it’s going to be a mid to low 22 minute effort.

There is a crit in NJ on Saturday
http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=6617

Is this a new race? seems like no one
knows about it.

I know a guy named Kyle who wants to sleep on Chodroff,

Peppo on Chodroff?

Free tracksuit that only fits andre the giant you mean.

Chodroff vs. O’Donnell. It will be interesting to see how the good Dr. compares to the newbie pro. I will compare how bad I am to them both. Zmolik and Harris will be fighting for the best of the rest. I will be in the rest category.

disk, trispoke or deep tomorrow?

Ken will be 30seconds to 1minute slower. Not in the same league.

Based on one of those on-line wattage calculators, Dr. Will needed to average about 380W to maintain his 46.7kmph pace from the NJTT. Based on the same on-line magic, Ken needed to maintain an average of 375W to solo the last 2 laps of that park race on a road bike that he won.

These look like pretty similar athletes to me.

you’re joking, right?

I doubt that the online calculator accurately accounts for each rider’s different aerodynamics; based on his other races and posted numbers, I’m guessing that Dr. Will actually averaged just around 350 W in the Jersey TT – this tells you how aero he is.

Most on this site have no idea just how crazy fast he is on TT bike this year. He has done the windtunnel thing, lost weight and smokes top Cat1s and 2s on all courses. The guy is a beast. He will win FBF and smoke Harris. No question. Call him what you want (Sandbagger etc) the dude is fast. He smoked Lundgren, Roger A (two fast guys)last week at NJ TTs.

http://www.mambokingsracing.com/events/2008-40k-overall.pdf

The last 2 laps of a 7 lap road race is probably a pretty good equivalent.

slipstream burritos were free. i ate one for breakfast

he impregnated me first

the incessant jock-riding.

chodroff is a newbie pro, doesn’t he ride for empire?

No matter his Cat Will O is totally pro.

fixed!
Yo fire gonna fly when I fart!

when analyzed on some ridiculous computer program is not a good equivalent. The proof is in the pudding. Will O’ will show what being aero is all about. I’m starting minutes ahead of him and my new goal is to not get caught. I know, I know – pretty sad standards for myself.

bring the pain! high bridge is going to hurt!

I have JFT money for the TT.

I am assuming there is day of registration because the pre-reg list is like 15 people. At least the list on-line.

Am I correct?

beat dr. will at ephrata.

Is a great TTer but he lost by over a minute to Will last week. I hope Ken takes the win!

Bremer on Bremer on empirecycling.com:

“Alex is currently a Junior at Columbia University, studying Mechanical Engineering. His interests outside of cycling include vegetarian cooking, cats, Buddhism, Taoism, non-fiction, literature, modern rock, socially responsible industrial design, all bodies of water, nature, public radio, working on bikes, math, physics, and fractals. Although his compulsive streak can lead to taking take life far too seriously, he loves to laugh and tries to make light of every situation while imagining the possible positive outcomes.”

Whatever is this person trying to say? Empire does not hold a UCI license hence not a PRO team.

Everyone knows it’s easier to hold higher watts on a climb…

and the bathrooms weren’t open. guys crapping in the woods etc

the good doc dont go up as fast as he goes forward. he can be beat, but not this weekend. he’s doing like 6 races and so wil lnever need a cooldown or warmup. perpetual power. his CP900 is like 320watts

it’s sad when people write stuff like “his CP900 is like 320watts” and expect us to know or care what that means.

If O’Donnell’s not fried from Saturday’s TT + Crit, I think he wins. I’ve seen first-hand just how fast he is. Not only is he stupid-wicked-wind-tunnel aero, but he’s super disciplined and has uber powerful engine for this specific discipline. I think he’s placing easy at Nats. Easy. He’s a human missile on that P3. I just have to respect that…

I would love to do the TT and see how I’d do against Zmolik (who broke his stem at Silver Mine) and Ken Harris (who I’ve never beaten). But I’ll be in Atlantic City covering the Kelly Pavlik fight. I’m getting old — I’m actually blowing off a race (a TT of all things!!!) to have some fun.

Good luck to everyone and I look forward to seeing the results. I foresee it coming down to Zmolik (who should be fresher) and O’Donnell. If O’Donnell has a great day, he wins big. I don’t mean any disrespect!

Holding more than 350 watts for 50 minutes. That quite a trick, a-hole.

but i know that he broke his ankle and some ribs at omerville.

even sadder… if you actually know what “CP900 @ 320” you’ll also know that is completely meaningless.

ODonnell totally posted that. Nice.

Will could care less about you losers. He’s about the pursuit of perfection on the bike. You’re about the pursuit of stirring the pot. So sad.

I didn’t see Rashad today at ESG qualifiers. Anyone know if he’s doing ok?

tt wins from aerodynamics is the weeny way to win. if you can’t do it in a road race what’s the point. just take up tri’s already and join the rest of the self inflated type-A’s

Paging Dr Will, you are needed at the local TRI, STAT (that means NOW)!!!!

Seriously, why not just do Tris?

Holding high watts for durations equals muscular endurance which is at the heart of road racing. That’s why Will not only excels at tts, but is often out ahead driving the break.

There’s more to Tri than Being able to TT. You need to be intense. You need to swim like a Shark and run like a Cheetah on the high plains of Africa. You need to deal with the melting tar and Kona winds on the Queen’s highway. You need to think “Personal Record”. So…time trialing won’t cut it in the world of Triathlon and your P3 needs to be gold plated to show how wealthy you are. Otherwise it’s not enough. HTFU.

#1 – he’s a cat 3, don’t flatter yourselves.

#2 – his bike is so unbelievably UCI illegal, but he can keep it that way because he’s nowhere near good enough to touch UCI standards.

this is coming from someone who’s bike HAS to be UCI legal, and does TT’s like that, unlike this guy with his position the exact way he wants it, not following the rules. bullshit!

He’s not doing races under UCI rules

why is it anytime someone does well around here (Will, Rashad, Ken H., Ricky), a bunch of whiny-ass complainers feel the need to chop him down?

anyway Dr. Will won last years Mengoni GP with a helmet cam…that’s not very aero.

Lets talk about what’s really important. Who will win the 4’s at the TT?

My bike is so unbelievably UCI illegal…the front fork is totally loaded with coke….don’t cross wheels with me, or You’ll Be Saying ‘Ello To My Lil’ Friend……..

Good read on Chase Utley in the NY Times today. Says that if you are good, you don’t need to say that you are; other people will for you. “Dr.” Will may not be a legit doctor but the man must have legit speed cause you all are talking about him like he does.

you play by the rules of the race. The PA TT did not require UCI bike regulations, so why would anyone feel they need to conform to standards which are not in effect? the question should be why others, without being required to ge ttheir bikes within UCI spec would run their equipment in UCI spec if they didnt feel it was fastest? UCI spec was in play today so everyone had a chance to run their fastest setups. They ran theirs. odonnell ran his. They got beat. Dr. O’Donnell was fastest.

to all you cry babies, Suck on that you cry babies; and i dont even know if i like the guy, but he competes. he comes on line here and share. he puts a lot into the PE site.

and all the crying up here makes me wonder what weak individuals occupy this sport. go take up ice dancing, or maybe water yoga. you can cry how the pool was warmer for the later competitors and how that gave them an unfair advantage.

stop crying. its embarassing. big boys take the pain like men.

quote of the day, sums up most things, who wants it more; and is willing and capable.
shadows and dust. strength and honor. what we do in life (or on the internets) echos an eternity…
zzzzzz…zzzzzzzzz….zzzzzzzzzzzzz

“why is it anytime someone does well around here (Will, Rashad, Ken H., Ricky), a bunch of whiny-ass complainers feel the need to chop him down?”

Becasue they can, with no repercussions and no accountability for being wrong

or said to be better than pros and cat 1.

is not going to floyd

Not sure if they are posted, but Stacey Jensen of Kissena won the women’s 123 and Stephanie Busloff of AveA/Razorfish won the 4s.

Set a new FBF record? Yeah he sucks because he is not UCI legal. Crazy Fast!

OK, who cares, he’s fast in TTs, he’s STILL not a doctor though.

1 question: If your arms are parallel with the ground when gripping the bars with your whole hand wrapped around the grip, and then during the race you change your grip to essentially lay your entire hand on top of the bars does it become illegal?

looks alot like Levi’s which obviously has to be UCI legal.

Will, you rock. Your time rocked and we all want to be as fast as you are. That is why we make fun of you. We will stop giving you shit when we beat you in a TT, which is never. So deal with the hate because we only talk smack about cyclists better than us on this site. If we could beat you, there would be no reason to hate on you. Get it?

Kissena’s Trimble wins highbridge 4’s