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Ok, busy weekend, and Schmalz is on vacation. On top of that, the kid starts kindergarten today, so I have to mail it in a bit here. We’re moving everything a day back this week – Hangover today, Toto tomorrow, glorious Argument Thursday.
Lots of great NY results at Green Mountain, starting with a GC win by former NY’er Kristen LaSasso in the women’s P123. Kyle Peppo (of NYVC!) won the men’s 4A, and David Taylor took the Masters 30+. Instead of risking offending someone by omission I’ll refer you to the most excellent and speedy <a href=”http://www.velocityresults.net/” target=”blank”>Velocity Results</a> site. Feel free to talk up your friends, or better yet, anonymously give yourself props.
Of NYSketches wins the Cat 3 crit in a solo breakaway over the last few laps!
…and in the field sprint behind, the guy who would have gotten 2nd, and who was closing dangerously on Arjan, broke his chain, or something, 50m before the line. Since it was an uphill-ish finish, the guy lost all momentum and 20 guys passed him. He was jerking his body all over the place to try to get his bike to move forward.
Peppo and Tron Witt on first and third. Way to represent NY racing. Hopefully you had a nice micro brew to celebrate!
I raced in the 4B field. Lotta fun…good, hard racing all around. It was great to see many of our fellow NYC racers up there duking it out with other teams. I recommend the GMSR to all.
In the GMSR Mad River stage p-1-2, Mike Margarite, Eugene Boronow and Igor Misicki were in groups more than 2 minutes off the front in the road race that followed moto marshals off course, so they ended up way back
Igor was 2nd overall going into the 3rd day. His break was sent off course and they ended up 50 min. down from the leaders pushing him back on the GC.
I heard about that and the official had the nerve to say that they should know the course, But a least he’ll be getting his race money back and hotel.
I dont recall seeing his name on many race results this year (Bear, Jiminy, Battenkill), where did this monster come from and where has he been hiding.
Amazing racing!
Just wasn’t that strong in the beginning of the year, he was a new racer. After a few months of very assiduous training his talent really came through, good coaching and hard work paid off..
I am an old mediocre Cat 4 but I did happen to be at the front on the b field one race during the course of what eneded up being a 14 minute lap and this guy takes off on Harlem Hill like he was doing hill repeats just smokes everyone… I took note. Obviously not GMSR but a clearly a preview of things to come…
Congratz Arjan
Big props to DT for winning the 30+. That could not have been easy. Did he do the 30+ because it was a harder or easier field?
yeah, igor got the rawest deal–2nd on GC, and we had what looked like a decent move, though there was certainly a long day of riding still ahead. hard to believe the guy would lead us so far off-course and then just strand us, without even so much as a word of warning–he just turned around and bolted.
lisban was 2nd in the pro crit, and zmolik 3rd in the circuit. guy east from sakonnet was 8th in the prologue and up there in the RR, as well, i think.
great rides by NY’ers in the masters and in the 3’s, as well. caught the end of the cat 3 crit–great job by the sketchers guy to hold on for the win.
can we chip in and get kyle some matching NYVC shorts. nice win!
He rode so much he went through his two pairs!
Not a bad look, I’ve seen worse.
I assume he did 30+ to be with his teammate mark alden. He was reged for 40+ I think, but switched.
DT had a great race, one of several this year. In masters, 40+ sometimes beats 30+, sometimes even 50+ are faster than 40+, depends on who comes out to play and races in masters vs cat.
is new NYVC sponsor for 2008
http://www.cadencecycling.com/news/?a=v&i=260
Great way to have your product showcased, winning GMSR
Mark Alden also was 4th overall in the 30+, was the first one up App Gap on Sunday that wasn’t in the break and the tandem of Taylor and Alden is a dangerous one in any race.
but I finished so far back it’d be more like a diss to mention me
so instead I’ll just ask “Where are photos!!??”
who upgrades to Cat-3 one week and comes in 4th in a super hard crit the next.
I think Taylor might have even smiled after the race.
soloed for the win at denville…nice ride!
That looked super hard. Some major strongmen got dropped or never saw the front.
In fact, Landis (Smith & Nephew) was never far behind the Schalk until the end, and at times, he rode with him and challenger Harlan Price (Independent Fabrication). Schalk gapped Landis and Price thanks to a speedy transition through aid station two, and he remained solo off the front for the remaining 70 miles of the race.
“I wanted to pull a Landis on Landis,” smiled Schalk, referring to Landis’ legendary solo, lengthy, and ultimately race-winning break-away in Stage 17 of the 2006 Tour de France.
Floyd started in the dirt and has ended in the dirt
Omnium winners:
A – Dan Lim CRCA-Princeton Review
B – Kimani Nielsen CRCA-southafrica.net
40+ – Josh Rechnitz CRCA-Centerbridge
My apologies for not getting the name for women’s winner.
RU kidding me?
Coaching what…
Pratice of clean needles
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“Some major strongmen got dropped or never saw the front of the 3 race.”
a “Strong Cat 3” is an oxymoron.
is just a moron.
Lloyd Flandis (Mt. Nittany Wheelworks) 4.07.04
Lay off Kyle! He started his season as a cat 5, that is why you don’t see a ton of results. He has recently been a force in the CRCA races. I expect an early season upgrade for him next year into cat 3. Not even funny insinuating Kyle is up to no good.
Jo Azze from CRCA/Blue-Ribbon soloing the last 3 laps in the GSMR crit cat 4A for a spectacular win.
is also a super nice guy. Clearly he’s a great endorsement for Cadence coaching if he was training with them.
“…..and the official had the nerve to say that they should know the course….”
Because the official was correct. I quote you rule 3B4 of the 2007 USA Cycling Road/Track/Cyclocross rule book:
3B4. The responsibility of keeping on the prescribed course rests with the rider. A rider may not leave the
prescribed course unless ordered to do so by public authorities or a race official [disqualification].
Hey, I feel bad for Igor too; but they were 12 others that were also led off-course, and all but 2 completed the distance with no complaints to any race staff or officials that I know of. That’s racing; yes it sucks for Igor because he was going for yellow, but it is what it is.
damn. why are all these winners super nice guys, too? is it more than coincidence? just once i want to see someone win a race, and have someone write ‘great job, he put in a damn strong effort for that win, and man is he a f*cking jackhole to boot’
is that I’m sure all the jackholes that shit on everyone on this website probably never win anything. So not only are they anonymous online, they’re also anonymous on the road.
Whatever happened to that guy that was saying NYers were sucking at GMSR?
They were led off the course by the race official on the moto. Is he not supposed to know the course, more so than the riders?! The marshal was not there when the beak went through, also riders fault? Not only that, the moto just made a u-turn and left those 12 guys in the middle of nowhere, without a WORD!!!
If those guys got hit by a truck, you and the race organizer can shove them rules ….you know where.
The guys are right to be upset, and the official and organizer were supposed to apologize and not give them shit.
Igor is not the only one to complain. Roger Aspholm asked for his money back, and was, told that if he gets the money back, he will never be allowed to race there again. How messed up is that?
Francisco Luizzi is Kyles coach,he is excelent- may of the YVC riders have improved a ton this year. Thanks Cisco!
Paying a coach at the Cat 5-3 level is a waste of money and time. We are not about the crack the domestic pro tour at this level or the bigs in Europe. I can understand top Cat 1s in the area having coaches but a Cat 5-3 is a joke. I imagine Peppos improvement is due to training and talent alone.
Francisco is a super great coach, check the website for his coaching services:
http://www.nutrifitcycling.com
What was your role at GMSR? Official? Promoter? I ask because you didn’t mention the incident in the Town of Bethel in your Cyclingnews.com coverage of stage 3, but it most likely affected the outcome of that stage and the whole race. And, it would have been of great interest to anyone who races or follows cycling.
alan, come on now… the official may have been technically correct, but that doesn’t mean that he or the rest of the officials handled the situation at all appropriately. it’s not like this was a crit or laps around central park or something where everyone can reasonably be expected to know the course–this was a 100+ mile, point-to-point road race with lots of turns, on roads that a lot of the riders had never even seen. missing a turn in those circumstances is an understandable mistake on the moto’s part, but leading 12 guys off-course and then ditching them without at least telling them which way to go in order to get back is indeed messed up. the fact that they were leading the race only makes the situation worse, and on top of that, getting defensive and telling the racers it’s THEIR fault when they are understandably pissed is just insulting.
As far as having a coach for cat 5 – to 3 of course its a good idea, in every sport in the world you have a coach if its football in the uk or tennis so why not cycling.
I agree just looking at data on a computer is not going to help much but being taught how to race when to attack etc, etc of course its going to help no one in any peloton here is going to show you what to do. Just watching three hours of the tdf is great for tactics as well phil and paul practically spell it out for you what is going on. There is far to much negative racing in the lower categorys and there were a few things that really stuck out for me this year at CRCA race, 1, Organic leadout for the sprint, 2, Kyle peppo and chris K from sids constant attacks, 3, Setanta lead out on cats paw. The teams actually worked out a plan and it worked. Forgive me if i don’t mention everything I saw, but watching someone attack the peloton and not just sit there as pack fodder i have alot more respect for better to try and learn what went wrong than to just stick in the group and carsh in the sprint finish.
A good coach can pick on what you need training on and a good coach should also be able to help with peddle stroke etc,etc.
So, in a race, if we’re in a break and following a moto, and the moto goes one way but what you read about the course in the bible says something else, we should just follow the bible and disregard the moto?
Interesting.
Great racing with you both at GMSR, you both rode smart races and deserved your places in the GC.
A great race for all well organised , high level of talent, and a real feel for racing, glad NY did so well.
A great learning experience and hopefully I will actually place somewhere next year.
Phil, maybe you could learn how to spell, too.
People pay personal trainers $$$ daily so they can build super abs for no real fitness advantage and that’s common acceptable practice among gym rats. Those of you who might have great natural ability but have no direction, other than “ride hard today” or “tempo ride with some efforts” are the ones wasting your time. A coach can provide guidance via structured workouts, thereby maximizing time for other things in life… job, family, etc.
How many years in a row is it that there was a major mess up, totally playing with results in the Pro/1/2.
2005 – P/1/2 circuit race nullified
2006 – P/1/2 circuit race nullified
2007- P/1/2 road race mismanged – lead break led
off course.
There was no marshal at the left turn off of Notch Road. Yeah, I guess the riders had better have pre-rode the course or taped the cue sheet to the bike, because if they got there alone they’d have a good chance of going the wrong way.
At least once guy in the 50+ did.
and the Burlington Crit in particular is smooth
but the GMSR sometimes seems too big for the mangement. I remember when they first started it as a stage race and they said it’d be smaller in feel than the Killington Race. But it seems to have a lot of fields. Maybe they should reduce the number of fields (perhaps two masters fields instead of three) and maybe have a few more people to help with issues like the problems in the P-1-2 races. Also, various lower cat men’s fields crossed in the circuit race and mad river race last year – that suggests too many fields.
PS – yes I suggested reducing the number of men’s fields to the organizers after last year’s race.
Have you read the James Joseph bashing? Everyone admits he’s a great sprinter, no one likes the way he rides. Most do call him an A$$hole on the bike.
I concur, however when you are going to this stage race for the first time (like Igor) and assuming he read the course outline you could only know so much about a course, just think about it. Some of these rules are BS in my opinion and Igor was not the only rider to complain, and thats a fact. Roger A. also gave his two cents to the officials if I remember correctly. All I’m saying is that the powers at be, should take some responsibility and not blame riders for their mistakes. Another thing worth mentioning is the price of the race, $180 some what dollers for a prize $ not worth mentioning, it makes you wonder what in hell are they using the money for? partying, sleeping in super nice hotels and hiring dumb ass pace drivers! LOL Give something back to a rider instead saying, ” well you should know the course ” I don’t know about you, but I’d be pissed as much he was, the guy is from NY and he was there to represent. This is almost as bad as getting fired right before you win the Tour de France! LOL (ok ok it’s not as bad as that)
To who cares?…I agree; the referee should know the course as well. But as the rules state the burden is on the rider. Unfortunately Igor had no recourse. Should the rule be changed; that’s a debate in and of itself. As for Roger’s complaint, a lot of the riders did talk to the officials/promoter but Igor was the only one who was irate; seemed like the others were not that angry. And knowing the promoter as well as I do I don’t believe he would have said that to Roger….regardless, he doesn’t have the authority to deny entry to any rider that meets all of the eligibility requirement necessary to compete in a race.
To anon comment at 9/4 7:39 — I was the announcer for the weekend and got stuck into the “reporter” role because the regular media coordinator was MIA. I chose not to mention the incident in Bethel because at the time the article was written I did not have all the facts from the incident, so I made a decision that I would rather skip it then write something that was incorrect factually. Better of two evils….
to what?….I agree, the situation was not handled well. Even if the referee did not intend to leave those riders out there, the riders got the impression that he did, which is not good. I’d be upset too.
To anon poster on 9/4 at 8:20 — the 2005 race was nullified because the riders took the whole road in the last 5k, causing a major safety hazard because they did not have the whole road until the finsh. The chief referee that year decided to anull the stage as a result. In 2006, a state trooper left his post on the corner of route 2 and 100 and headed up the hill on 100. By the time he figured out he screwed up, he did a 5-point U-turn in the middle of the pro field going 40mph+. The field stopped at the finish line and anulled the stage themselves. I don’t blame them a second for doing so. 2007: Solo leader makes the correct turn, chase group does not, field does. If anyone blames any of these incidents on the promoter, you obviously have never run a race before; you should get involved.
To listen up, Yo check it! — Please explain to me how when 13 out of 118 riders go the wrong way it’s the fault of the “powers that be”? I don’t get it. And as for the comment about the race fee, don’t get me started. Like before, that’s a comment coming from someone that has never promoted a bike race before. State cops for 3 days, USA Cycling fees and insurance, prize money, site fees, permit fees, awards, food & beverages for riders and staff, results services, port-a-johns, ambulances, bib numbers, administrative costs, neutral support, van and equipment rentals, announcers, transportation expenses; you think that stuff is all free? I don’t know what GMSR’s budget is like, but I’d be happy to share the budget for the ’07 Spring bear race, just e-mail me privately at alan_atwood@hotmail.com and I’d be happy to send along.
All in all, it sucked what happened and things could have been handled better. But before anyone uses hindsight to say what should have happened, put yourself in everyone’s place and then figure out what you would have done?
So you’ll drop $2000 on a pair of Zipps, but coaching is a waste of money? Most coaching fees are moderate, about the cost of a gym membership. And you’ll get much more in performance gains out of coaching than a gym membership of a pair of fancy wheels.
I feel bad for thr break. It sucks for the riders but Alan is right.
I’ve had no affiliation with the cadence coaching staff, however I’m sure it’s top-notch. Cadence has really great bibs made by Capo Forma and the staff there is extremely knowledgeable and friendly.
As far as training, I have worked this year with Francisco Liuzzi who has helped me a ton and focused on base training in a periodization framework. He really knows a lot about fitness, training and cycling and has been a great asset and coach for the NYVC team. He is also a super nice guy. Hope that helps to clarify.
Thanks. More than anything, I think GMSR is an example of how you go above and beyond. From pro-level results and officiating, promoting the races, doing previews here, and even doing the write ups as needed for Cyclingnews. You rock!
3B4. The responsibility of keeping on the prescribed course rests with the rider. A rider may not leave the prescribed course unless ordered to do so by public authorities or a race official [disqualification].
The break went off course because they were led there by an official of the race. Otherwise, according to the rule they should be dq’ed. Is Alan or anyone else saying they should be dq’ed? If they shouldn’t be dq’ed and I think that’s clear then they need to be compensated. Giving them refunds as I think was done is the right thing to do. All 12 should be refunded. And a public apology instead of blaming the riders wouldn’t hurt either.
Hey Next Year, Anal Retentiveness is an annoying personality disorder that is tedious, boring, and treatable.
“Hey, I feel bad for Igor too; but they were 12 oth”ers that were also led off-course, and all but 2 completed the distance with no complaints to any race staff or officials that I know of. That’s racing; yes it sucks for Igor because he was going for yellow, but it is what it is.”
I wonder if the guys that didn’t complain got refunds too or did only Igor get a refund. If that’s the case, it’s not racing, it’s being unfair and taking advantage of people.
sorry guys was to busy actually writing my own name where your supposed to say comment by . After reading plenty of the rants that often have no direction or just want to plain bash people I can understand why you would not want to write your name to your comments.
Sorry if I did not win the spelling competition , I’ll work on it and get my dictionary out next time. Or prehaps I ‘ll hire a coach for entering my comments.
Now I will go and let you get back to bashing me, or whoever else you feel fit too.
The DQ only applies when riders intentionally go off course and do not complete the prescribed route. The 13 did not go off course on purpose, so no DQ would apply here.
Alan
Phil
You are a talented racer and an call it like you see it poster on this site. Don’t let one stupid post get you down, we need more like you.
“…the official and organizer were supposed to apologize and not give them shit. ”
The organizer was apologetic. Nobody was pleased about that situation, and he felt badly for us.
But to expect the riders to not follow the moto official is unreasonable. The moto official is a legitimate authority– we’re supposed to obey his commands and trust his judgment. For riders to decide to turn a different way than him, we would have to abandon our respect for his position and replace his judgment with our own– instantaneously. This would violate the principles of obedience, and would go against human nature. And to expect this, you also have to expect us to routinely doubt and question the officials’ judgment.
I would be interested in seeing the results of racers of all Categories in NYC who have coaches vs those who do not.
I still dont buy into coaching at the Cat 5-3 level of racing. I could be wrong though.
Look at all this whining! You guys can’t help yourself. You are driven to whine. Not to win.
But unlike anyone else on this site I admit I was proved wrong at crit. Your 3s and 4s still sucked at the prologue and road race, but you owned the Crit. No denying it.
Heres some winter training incentive for you. Seems to a lot of us up north that the good NYC 3s and 4s upgraded and the new crop of riders aint so good. Kyle and Arjan will be 2s by next August and there aint nobody behind them. Stop whining and prove me wrong again.
Here is a list of top 3s to look out for:
Matt Pascale
Kim Riseth
Jon Warchol
JP Kamkinski – 2 after Bear
Chis Chaput
Tim Collins
Reed Albergotti
Tron Witt
Matt Serra
Nat Eng
Nick Bruno
This is just a small list of great NYC area racers.
Come on!
Reed A and Chris Chaput weren’t even top 20 on GC. Reed packs a nice sprint, but he climbs like a rock.
Matt Sera is 98% talk.
Tron Witt is good.
Kim R is good.
JP Kaminski is from CT and he won’t be a 3 next year. So he dont count.
Let’s not forget what happened to previus NYC riders in the GMSR Cat 4B race. Aaron Wolfe won prologue in 2006 and talks like he’s a world champ. Check out how well he did this year in 3s. Ted Neu won prologue in 2004, got 2nd in road race and won the GC. But look how he did in the 3s this year. NYC is good at creating Cat 4 masters champs who dont seem to hack it in the 3s. Nothing wrong with that, but stop da whining!
Train hard this winter, fellas and we will see you at Battenkill.
“Reed … climbs like a rock.”
Ha! Please remember this: you are going to feel very, very dumb about that statement next spring.
Reed’s currently 190lbs, son. That was his first real 3 stage race, and his climbing performance was more than respectable. He will eat you f’cking mountain goats and your offspring next year.
Bullwinkle: There’s a stall somewhere up north waiting for the sound of your tapping foot.
Reed A being the fairly large fella that he is was close behind the lead group coming over a 4 or so mile climb in Altoona 4’s. Can’t go wrong with that.
A Wolfe besides having many respectable performances this year got 2nd in Hilltown 3/4’s, or does that not count according to you?
Thts cool. Prove me wrong. I like competition, not whining.
But, Reed? Listen to yourselves. The guy currently weighs 190 pounds and climbs like a rock. We all saw it. I fear him in flat race, but not a climb. You guys are delusional.
Has been doing pretty goddamned well for someone who’s “98% talk.” That other 2% must be pretty strong.
Bullwinkle…since when is Bear a climbers race?
No one’s asking you to fear him right now, hillbilly boy, but I suggest you respect him. But I don’t care either way, because after this winter you’ll be spending a lot of time staring at his big ol’ ass finishing in front of you wondering how the f^ck that happened. He’s large and in charge and currently hangin’ in the there – do the math on what happens when he decides to shed a few kg.
Serra 98% talk? Now that’s delusional. Dude has never said peep to anyone. Prototypical super nice guy.
Plus he has great hair.
Serra is a negative racer. Elbows people all the time. Snakes people.
Also has a nasty attitude. Never says hi when you see him out training. Ever. You can wave and he looks right at you, then away. Not a nice guy.
Whatever.
He has been riding well, though.
Yes, I wish to remain anon.
You overlooked the strongest climber on the list – Mr Nick Bruno. Won so many races as a 4 and then won Unionvale as a 3 and always top 10 in hilly races. Bruno is legit
Correction you hick, JP Kaminski is not from CT. He rides for CT Coast but is from Souther Westchester County – New Rochelle. That makes him a flat lander downstate with the rest of the NYC racers.
Jon Warchol – he is a beast.
Serra is hot
ah ha! dude, that got a tear i was laughing so hard. first at the thought of matt serra throwing a ‘bow (what is he, a buck fifty?) and then not waving at you. was that sarcasm? regardless that was very funny, thank you.
OMG i love bullwinkle. great addition to the site. quick repsonse and fast payer. A+++
i know one cat 3 who doesn’t have much chance at bear – me. fat and lazy right now. i think nick bruno on westwood is one to watch. kid is super strong (and small). look for me to be hanging onto his jersey pocket up tiorati.
You guys are nuts. New Rochelle is not in NYC. Have you ever looked at a map, or are you idiots like that SC teenage beauty contestant? At least she’s hot.
So many good 1/2s and masters from NYC. Too bad you 3/4s give the whole city a bad rap by whining around. Have fun chasing yourselves around Harriman on Sunday. I hope Arjan kicks the crap out of all of you. He’s Dutch no? The Dutch are good riders. That’s because there not from NYC.
Did someone say huge gash?
I like Bullwinkle too. He’s crazy funny. And sort of honest. Not afraid to say who is good and who isn’t. Even admitted that he was wrong when you NYCers stole the crit.
http://www.gmsr.info/communiques.php
In the 3s and fours, the average weight for the winners for past 5 or so years has been 170 at least I would bet.
I can’t speak to the results of all of the Cat 3-5 racers in/around NYC in the coaching versus non coaching realm. However, Nick Bruno, Steve Goldman and I ARE coached as Cat 3 racers. I won’t say anything about my results, but you can hardly begrudge Bruno or Goldman theirs. Coaching is not for everyone, but to say that it should not exist in cats 3-5 is like saying a high school baseball team should not be coached, instead having the players wait until they have made the minors. People can learn from mentoring at all levels.
What did that big South African guy who won the 4’s in Spring weigh? Certainly more than 170! He was one huge motherf*#ker.
but he suffers plenty in other races where the climbs are steeper i.e. Fitch finishing climb etc.
As for coaching, I agree with Will and would say that it adds structure to your training. When Pdiddy prepared for his NY Marathon he hired one of the best coaches and marathon runners of all time (Salazar) and completed the marathon in over 4 hours but at least under 5. He could afford Salazar and it rescued him because he suffered badly with knee and foot problems. Only with proper training did he manage to overcome these things and even though his time was not at all good, it was still respectable for a non-athlete in his first ever marathon. So, if you can afford it, go for it. In the somewhat annoying by now Amex ad of John McEnroe he says “Why would I get tennis lessons?” Exactly, and if you are a 24 handicap golfer I would say a few lessons could come in handy. So should CAT 3-5 cyclists get coaching – Hell yes, they’re the ones needing it most.
That is SOOOO not Coach L. Don’t even try to imitate himi. He needs to speak with one voice when he’s ready to come back. You ass clowns drove him into hiding. Now the rest of us must wait until the lucky day when he decides to return and once again entertain us with his pearls of wisdom.
my favorite post was his mental visualization technique, where he once physically exhausted himself visualizing his riders’ performances on the climbs.
pure genius. always unappreciated in its time.
I hate it when big guys are also good climbers. I’m under 170 and am a terrible climber. So there goes my excuse.
Without knowing the guy I’d say Reed A. performance in the 3’s at GMSR is pretty impressive. He has a fast sprintfor sure, most of the sprinter types that went up to 3 the last couple of years struggle big time in the hilly races or don’t even bother trying hillier stuff.
Outside of Rashad and those ringers on Sketchers this guy is the most impressive recent local upgrade.
I remember when Gulla was kicking a** all over the NE in the 3’s a couple years ago he had a tough time at GMSR in the 3 field.
the best recent upgrades as all around racers are:
Jordan Copeland
Gabriel Gentile
Jon Warchol and
Kim Riseth
These guys can do it all – sprint and climb.
the best recent upgrades as all around racers are:
Jordan Copeland – 32nd in Capital Region
Gabriel Gentile – 51st Housatonic and 51st inf Fitch Road Race
Jon Warchol – No major cat 3 RR to date but he is good
Kim Riseth – Also no cat 3 RR to date
These guys can do it all – sprint and climb
I don’t think so. You did not mention Nick Bruno who placed top 5 consistantly in recent road races and also Dan Hoffman and Reed as easily as good as any on the list. Nick Bruno will be very hard to beat at Bear because he can sprint and he will attack at some point. If he does not do anything stupid early in the race, I don’t see anyone beating him.
but was injured at the time so it would be unfair to take that result as a measure of his form
But I still think the list below is strong. Forgot about Bruno.
but Greg Ciocci of Keltic is registered for the 3s. He is a very good climber and sprinter. Won Jiminy as a 4 with a very good field (COpeland, Gentile, Riseth, Bruno?, Butner and many others), he also got 6th at Battenkill. I guess the Guys in Green are venturing over to Bear for once. He is one to watch.
This kid was a Cat 5 in March, toyed with the field at Bethel, then schooled us all at Jiminy in the 4’s, has had other good results this year. Now a 3, really strong, he might only be lacking in terms of experience. Plus he’s a super nice and humble guy.
I hope he has a great race at Bear.
Very strong, nice and has a strong teammate in Eric Merrill also a 5 in March and has had some great results as a 4. Watch out for both these guys Sunday they can race.
None of the guys mentioned below can sprint at the cat1/2/3 level, so don’t call them sprinters. Being the fastest-twitcher in the 4’s or B’s at a given time, really don’t mean much.
Reed Albergotti did get 4th (3rd in the sprint) at the GMSR cat 3 crit, so I think it is fair to say that he can sprint at the cat 3 level and there are other 3s at the race who can sprint as well as or better than Reed.
None of the guys mentioned below can sprint at the pro level, so don’t call them sprinters. Being the fastest-twitcher in the cat1s, 2s or 3s at a given time, really don’t mean much.
Based on your logic…
99.999% of this websites readers can’t do shit at the pro level beside bitch. So yes we, I, you, all suck. There I went and said it. So shut the fuck up. These guys get props for trying and good where they are.
No, I actually AM a pro. Just got signed to a new team that’s sponsored by suckmyballs.dk. We’re euro as shit and eat baguettes like you for continental breakfast
Sprinters or Climbers were all Cat 5s at one time. I would say if you are a strong sprinter at a Cat 3 level and make the jump to Cat 1 or 2 you will be a strong sprinter again with more training. Karl Roesler (Cat 5 to 3 in a few months) is a great sprinter at his level – Just ask Bunde and LaCorte about Roesler at the Track and his sprint. To say you are not a good sprinter unless you are a pro is idiotic. To the pro below – your an jerkoff.
I raced in the 4b field, i nearly took a spill when a racer ran into a spectator and knocked over the portable restroom
I recommend gmsr … it was a blast..thanks
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