Hangover 8/27/2007

by schmalz

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Frank Travieso wins the Pro 1/2 at Mengoni in a sprint finish, with Mengoni’s Amauri Perez second and Adam Alexander third.

Robin Farina wins the women’s race, with Caryl Gale second and Rebecca Wellons third.

Filip Capala wins the juniors, Liam Quigley second, Jhovan Gibbs third.

William O’Donnell wins the 3 race from a break of four, and tapes himself in the process. Fooling everyone with his helmet camera geek camouflage. His <a href=”http://www.westwoodvelo.com/showthread.php?t=2347″ target=”blank”>race report</a> is a must read, too.

Kyle Wamsley from the Navigators wins the Pro Chris Thater. Theresa Cliff-Ryan wins the women’s pro race. Lower category results not yet posted. So if you did well, let us know.

Lewis Almonte has about the best weekend a cat 3 can have. He made the break in the Mengoni race and finished fourth, and he won the Cat 3 race at Chris Thater. I would like to remind Lewis that he can buy me a #9 at Jackson Hole anytime. Also, can everyone just get a clue and be nice to Lewis, as he is a great kid and doesn’t need any exposure to your “wit”. Flaming juniors is just bad form – um, what do you think I’m here for anyway?

I would also like to personally apologize for not working hard enough in the Mengoni race, spoiling the chances for some to prance to a huge 17th place finish. I would also like to apologize in advance for telling them to bite me where the urine leaks my body.

Zui <a href=”http://www.keirin.us/gallery/008/2007mengoni.html” target=”blank”>shots</a> linked up, for you lazy key punchers.

90 Comments

Anonymous

i thought you were going to crawl into a hole after Mengoni?

just kidding, I for one appreciate the snark.

Anonymous

wait, are you sure you want someone to bite you there?

also, did you know dino jr. re-released ‘green mind’ in 2006? had no idea, saw it randomly this weekend. sweet.

Anonymous

so the ambulances made the cat 3 finish hairy – what happened? I heard the women’s race had a bad crash.

schmalz

Is one of the few guitar dudes I can listen to for an extended period of time. Him and Yngwie Malmsteen…

Anonymous

apparently the pace moto for the women’s race crashed (one rider in the field told me he was looking back and hit a curb) and took down a rider as well

anyone know how they are doing?

mikem

said it in the “hopeful,” have to say it in the “hangover”–awesome weekend for lewis. congrats, man!

Anonymous

Missing an entire field in setting up the registration as an oversight? I think not, but instead was a reaction to critics. If it was truly an oversight, why were the initial responses from Ken on the CRCA net group a defense of the process instead of an oops we messed up the registration.

Anonymous

We understand that the CRCA “jobs” are thankless volunteer posts that require a ton of time, but why not just say “yeah, we should have done it this way and we’re correcting it.” People have plenty of tolerance and respect for people trying their best, owning up, and responding to constructive criticism with corrections. They have much less tolerance for deception.

Anonymous

wow, you really seem to have your panties in a bunch about this – why not post your thoughts on crca.net?

Fed up with whiners

it was an oversight sorta like the oops we messed up that your looking for? As it has been said before, volunteer your time and do it better, you obviously can, if not-shut the f-up. Also, this is NYVC, not crca so why would you expect them to respond here? E-mail them at the contacts listed on crca.net. Oh yeah, go f-yourself. By the way I have no connection to either.

lost patience

volunteer or not they HAVE been slow on almost everything. I’m sure it’s a demanding job but they are accountable…

Eugene

“they are accountable…”

Accountable? And what recourse do you have, a refund?
They’re planning and running an open race for you. Often the planners who are most closely involved can’t participate in the event themselves. What, exactly, are you complaining about? That a change was made? That there are trade-offs when making any decision, that it’s impossible to please everyone?

Safety concerns, perhaps, justify loud complaints. But this? What is this?

Anonymous

unfortunately CRCA doesn’t have chat thread capabilities so we’ll continue to whine here for now…

Anonymous

probably because i wanted to ridicule and redirect. i ensured the post got the response it deserved.

Anonymous

despite whether they are constructive and reasonable or inappropriate flames into one category of complaining/bashing is a slippery slope, discouraging expression and constructive discussion.

The original poster merely questioned whether “oversight” (implying the cat 4 women’s field was originally planned, but mistakenly omitted from the registration site) was an accurate depiction of the event.

Anonymous

Besides GMSR are there any good races for cat 4 men next wknd?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Also, a big thank you to all the CRCA and other volunteer’s out there. I hope you all continue next year despite the few folks who are beating you down and probably giving you second thoughts on whether or not you want to bother.

Reed A

Thanks for the great work this season. I wouldn’t be bike racing and would be 20 lbs heavier and out of shape if it weren’t for CRCA, so thanks for all the hard work.

jft

Denville crit in NJ is supposed to be good, but I don’t know what fields. The cycling hall of fame is also running some kind of crit, maybe Labor Day? Racelistings.com or the NJBA websites might have info

NJ

Denville is a good crit but the pavement’s not great (as of last year). There’s also a turn which is close to 180 degrees. They shortened the course last year due to local flooding so that turn might not be as sharp with the full course.

Basking ridge on Monday is a great course. Nice town, great wide roads, good crowd. Course is all uphill or downhill, no flat secton with a very fast downhill finish.

Anonymous

That photo is so right and so hardcore.

Major props to Lewis, his junior pals and Craig Cook and all the junior supporters.

Bernie

I just wanted to point out that Filip Capala also won the juniors at the CT Coast Crit, and took second in the 3/4… nice riding Filip!

Khary Ward

Yea it was horrible, The driver apparentely took the corner too deep, slide into the curb/Metal fence and the scooter ricochet into the women…and I thik it took out one or two of them.

Junior

Big props for everyone that helps out all the Juniors like Joao, Scot Willingham, Kevin Molloy,Ted Neu, Haig Marino just to name a few…you guys help make it happenn for racers with 0 income in an expensive sport

thanks

BR

Not only can Schmalz spell Wingnut’s name right, but I bet he has all his records, too. What about the Great Kat?

Chris M

Just want to add that that whiney cat 4 witch has no business calling out our honorable CRCA volunteers for manipulative ‘deception’ – what a crock! And on the wrong forum, no less. Things arent done fast enough? Go do it yourself, you jerk. Just be happy someone is helping organize a race for you at all – at no personal gain at all! I cant believe you have the nerve to get NYC-impatient at your own club management over something so trivial. Some self-reflection would be nice here lady. Dont bother to reply. Just think about it. We dont want to hear your stupid and wildly ungrateful justifications. Better still – go back to tri-events, where you probably came from. Sounds like its more your style anyway.
Sheeesh.

Anonymous

Fact 1 After months of planning, CRCA offers 1 women’s field at Bear Fall.

Fact 2 Norber O’Reilly complains publicly about new women having to race with Cat 1 women.

Fact 3 Ken publicly defends decision to offer 1 field due to historically poor preregistration.

Fact 4 CRCA offers second women’s field claiming it was an “oversight”

Fact 5 Grateful masses except explanation and dare not ask questions.

Fact 6 Anyone who questions process is subject to insult/ridicule to discourage any questioning of authority.

Anonymous

fact: they are volunteers.

It’s like a coop board. You don’t like it, get involved. That means more than kavetching anonymously on the nyvelocity site.

Anonymous

You make the assumption this is a woman when they have never identified themselves as such. Perhaps a little self reflection for yourself?

hahaha

I think that just when everything was set for Mengoni Tony S and crew really got going on Harriman.

In several years the woman have been combined – not intentionally and not necessarily in the flier, but on the day due to low turnout (and I’m NOT saying that’s a good thing).

Tony was probably hurrying to get things going, looked at what happened in the past and didn’t think it through carefully.

No blood no foul.

Chris M

I am NOT a woman. I’m a girl trapped in a 30-something bald man’s body – and with the maturity of a small child (either gender, I suppose). Get it straight people.

Anonymous

May be CRCA and all other volunteers should charge people and clubs $$$ and lots of it, especially from a-hole anon posting jerks who only complains. Those who have better suggestions or need to complain, at least let us know who you are, so we can vote you in next future to run the races. CRCA does a good job,so they made a mistake, big deal. There won’t be amy local racing without them, while we will still have fun without your complains.

Anonymous

Dear Chris M,

Don’t you mean ‘get it straight, people’?
Otherwise, you’re assuming that we’re all heterosexuals.

Chris M

A wise-ass calling out a wise-ass. Nice.

Maybe I meant you are all Ed McMahon straight-people to my Jonny Carson for my bad humor.

Anonymous

#1 Jared is a great racer
#2 Lewis A. is the future and the future is now
#3 CRCA is getting a lot of good stuff done, as are the many volunteers adn promoters who make racing possible here
#4 Those are actual results, the rest is just b.s.

Alex R

For all of you CRCA bashers unhappy with the management, you have a golden opportunity coming up in the near future. Board elections are coming up. I’m sure that if you run for the board, you will win. You could then show up everyone by showing the great job you can do on the board. Don’t have time to be on the board for a full year? Then volunteer your services for one of the open races. I’m sure you won’t be turned down.

Anonymous

Get more women racing.

The turnout for women’s race is decent in comparison to the number of licensed racers.

If there were as few guys racing, and the races were typically short, with mixed categories so beginers get blown out, men’s fields would be small too.

If we want more women to race, they have to have races that are good experiences for them, both as beginners and when they get better.

I’m not blaming anyone for this state of affairs and completely understand when promoters can’t afford (financially) to put on two or even one women’s field. When they do they should get props – like Charlie I with a nice long women’s crit at the Tour de Parc in October.

But entities that can afford it — like big clubs like CRCA — should keep holding events for women and the sport can grow.

dolan

in my conversations with different event promoters – i hold the position that the current balance of women specific fields to women racers is all the market can support. most of these promoters put on womens races because they are interested in bettering the sport – not to make money. similar to this messageboard on the CRCA management the promoters get nothing but grief from the women and then lose money on their race to boot.

also – if i were as strong as jared i would win as many races or more :-p

hahaha (j/k)

Spoony Luv

I agree with Dolan, it seems that the market has more than enough woman’s races given the demand.

My wife doesn’t ride because she is convinced that it will give her a bedonkadonk butt. Maybe we need to help dispell that myth before we can attract more woman to the sport (assuming it is a myth). I myself like the bedonk, so all you big-seated woman look me up.

Jared

Thanks. Local racers are having a good showing at Masters Track Nationals. Karl Roesler finished 4th in the 30-34 mens kilo, this is his first year racing. James gold in the 500, silver in the sprint. Delroy Walters silver in the 70+ 500 and 4th in the pursuit. Laura Summers bronze in the 500 and points race for women 35-39. Sorry if I missed anyone, K-town represent. We are waiting for LaCorte to put the icing on the cake (good luck Andrew!).

Jared

The K-Town krew is tearing it up, Ken Harris won the 40-44 Points race at Masters Nationals. Karl Roesler finished 4th in the 30-34 Sprint. La Cupcake is bringing home the Bronze in the 35-39 Sprint, and Laura Summers acquired another bronze medal. Congrats all! Keep em’ coming(the medals).

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