Hangover 8/11/2008

OD-ing on wins

 

At the CRCA Points race, Joshua Alexander of Foundation wins the A field in a break with Ken Harris of Adler and Lisban Quintero, also of Foundation. Matt Richards of NYVC wins the B field race, with Leonides Lopez of El Puente winning the C field race. Alejandra Mandrinan of Major Taylor wins the women’s race.

 

At the Cadence Prospect Park Series, Jermaine Burrowes of WS United wins the Pro/1-2-3 race, Germain Matos of Cocutos wins the 4 race, and Daniel Perez of Chelsea Bicycles wins the 5 race.

 

At the Kingwood TT, Will O’Donnell of Westwood Velo again fulfills his requirement to win every ITT by taking the overall title. Elizabeth Tyrell of Somerset wins the women’s title. Filip Capala of Capala Brothers wins the juniors race. David Linenberg of Westwood Velo wins the 35+ race. Tony Settel of Deno’s Wondel Wheel wins the 45+ race. Lawrence Dudek of Team Somerset wins the 55+.

 

At the CRCA FBF TT, Will O’Donnell clicks off another overall win on his to do list. Lisban Quintero wins the club championship in the ITT, making him duel club champion. Ken Harris of Adler wins the 40+ race and sets a new Cannibal course record. Robert Stern of Moneygram wins the 50+ title and Jeffery Fischman wins the 60+ championship. Cindy Ma of Sanchez-Metrowins the women’s race.

 

Brian Gabele of South Africa wins the Cat 3 race at Tokeneke, but the rest of the results are not yet posted. No word from the Cedar Mountain Road Race yet.

 

Tokeneke updated.

 

86 Comments

JG

Great results from Gabele and Olson. Those guys are flying and look to be on track for the Cat2 upgrade soon. Great job at a tough race~!

Wheelsucker

Why the hell would Olsen ever want to upgrade to a 2?
He’s 38, married, has a demanding full time job/business.
There’s a huge difference between Cat 3 and P/1/2 races in the major out of town races.
For local stuff it doesn’t matter , except it would be fun to do the Mengoni P/1/2.
Olsen would be smarter to “sandbag” it if he actually gets the points.
A Cat 2 would be a status symbol but it won’t be any fun.

JG

I was paying him a compliment. I have no idea if he wants to upgrade. It was just some positive praise. BTW – there are plent of Cat 1s and 2s with kids and full time jobs that do just fine. I could care less if he races 3s because he makes the competition better.

Sorry for paying him and Gabele a compliment. My post was not at all focused on sandbagging….

Wheelsucka

Veo and Lictor should be commended. They’re teaching newbies a valuable lesson that you need to know, and should learn early: every level you get to, there’s someone better than you that will beat you repeatedly. And they’re so much better than you, they shouldn’t be there beating you, they should be somewhere else beating someone else. So-called Sandbaggers.

To be clear, the technical definition of sandbagger is “anyone who finishes ahead of you that you recognize.” A wheelsucker, likewise, is “anyone who finishes ahead of you that you didn’t notice during the race.”

Don’t worry too much, though. When you get to be a 2, you race Pro/1/2 races mostly and you never have to worry about sandbaggers, because the guys kicking your a55 have nowhere else to race. So you’ve got that to look forward too.

Wheelsucker

Greg Wagner, the Z Team guy who placed 3rd in their field looks really strong, and it was one of his first road races. I was told that he is a nationally ranked mountain biker for the Sids team.

Sandbagger

Whats with them putting on all these races and noone attending. They now do Mtn XC races and get like 4 entries. Would it not be more lucrative for them to only put on a handful of top level races and get good feilds? Strange .

wheelsucker

Big congrats to Brian Gabele. He put in a huge surge with about 7 miles to go and soloed for the win. The 15 guys left chased hard and he still won by about 30 seconds. Well done Brian.
Olsen

Tony Settel

Rob Stern – Yeah! Congratulations. This is the payback for toughing out all those hilly spring races.

Wheelsucker

You might have noticed a class act like Colin Prensky didn’t hang around too long in either the 5s or 4s beating people up. In the same time that Colin has gone from Cat 5 to Cat 3, the sandbag twins have remained in the 5s chalking up win week after week. It might not be breaking any rules, but it sure ain’t classy.

Cat 6

If you are getting beat by these guys week after week then by the rules of Cat 5 upgrades it sounds like you are a sandbagger also. After 10 races you go to Cat4. Why are you still racing Cat5 yourself? Dont worry – when you get to Cat 4 there will be sandbaggers there also. Only more of them.

Wheelsucker

Such a riot to hear some anon cat 5 bitching about getting beat in CRCA races. Dude, just do your 10 and move up. If you dont like these twins, then you might get a race or two without them before they upgrade and continue to pummel your ass. Of course you will lose to someone else anyway until you get stronger and can actually race fast instead of moaning about how mediocre you are compared to the faster riders in your field.

Cat 3 lifer

There are only a few definites in racing. There will always be sandbaggers, always be guys faster than you and racing only gets harder as you move up. Enjoy the racing and train hard. Dont for a minute think because some sandbagger upgrades that you are now going to start winning races.

I wish it were that easy…

Wheelsucker

Pro/1/2 66 miles 42 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State LAJORS U23
1 2:57:18 Eneas Freyre TARGETRAINING Greenwich CT
2 st Justin Lindine TARGETRAINING Maplecrest NY
3 0:02:28 William Nowak TARGETRAINING Guilford CT 1
4 st Hayden Brooks FiordiFrutta Darling Heights UNK 2
5 st Alec Donahue Nerac Hadley MA
6 st Adam Sullivan Kenda/Raleigh Cycling Team North Kingstown RI
7 0:03:07 Matthew Purdy North Atlantic Velo/ClassBook.Com/Giant/Pedro’s Albany NY
8 0:03:19 Peter Bradshaw NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Boston MA
9 st Mark Alden CRCA/Blue Ribbon-Translation.com Montvale NJ
10 st Amos Brumble ccb/volkswagon
11 st David Taylor CRCA/Blue Ribbon-Translations.com New York NY
12 st Eric Tremble Kenda/Raleigh Cycling Team Jericho VT
13 0:03:37 Dan Hoffman Westwood Velo Harrison NJ
14 0:04:12 Jonathan Awerbuch NorEast Cycling Hanover NH
15 0:04:26 Nathaniel Ward TARGETRAINING Albany NY
16 0:05:58 Chris Rozdilsky Fiordifrutta Redding CT
17 0:09:43 Jason Beerman Kenda/Raleigh Cycling Team Allston MA
18 0:10:17 Aidan Charles Nerac Cycling East Hartford CT
19 st Toby Walch Kenda/Raleigh Cycling Team Marlborough MA
20 0:15:43 Dan Davenport Exodus Road Racing Guilford CT
21 0:16:39 Vincent Scalia Unattached Winooski VT 3
22 0:17:49 Josh Dillon Fiordifrutta Essex Junction VT
23 0:18:15 Hunter Pronovost CCNS/Pedal Power Cheshire CT
24 st Paul Levis TARGETRAINING Briarcliff Manor NY
25 st Duncan McGovern NorEast Cycling Peterborough NH 4
26 st Matt Rossman NorEast Morrisville VT
27 0:19:49 Peter Shapiro NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Cranston RI
28 0:20:26 Matt Baldwin TARGETRAINING Danbury CT
29 st David Hoyle TARGETRAINING Willow Grove PA
30 0:22:27 Colin H. Murphy Kenda/Raleigh Cycling Team Cambridge MA
31 0:25:16 Peter Chiu NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Wayland MA

Open Women 44 miles 50 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State LAJORS U23
1 2:09:26 Ann Marie Miller CRCA Sanchez-Metro New York NY
2 st Silke Wunderwald Independent Fabrication/Kempner Stonington CT
3 st Elena Leznik CRCA/Radical Media Fort Lee NJ
4 st Clara Kelly NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental North Andover MA
5 st Evelyn Stevens CRCA / Radical Media New York NY
6 0:00:38 Lizette Bolanos-Nauth International Bicycle/Global Arlington MA
7 0:01:18 Ashley Prine CRCA/Radical Media Brooklyn NY
8 st Margaret Shirley CRCA Radical Media New York NY
9 0:01:41 Maria Quiroga CRCA/Radical Media New York NY
10 0:02:51 Julie Lefebvre International Bicycle/Global Somerville MA
11 0:03:05 Nancy Ford USI Greenwich CT
12 0:06:30 Emma Bast Unaffiliated Hinesburg VT 1
13 st Brenda Bahnson Independent Fabrication/Kempner Great Barrington MA
14 st Katherine Papillon-Rodrigue CVC/Subaru of New England Tariffville CT
15 st Cecelia Pleva CRCA/Radical Media New York NY
16 st Lisa Force CRCA/comedy central-sid’s bikes Jersey City NJ
17 st Ellen Moses CRCA/Comedy Central-Sid’s Bikes New York NY
18 0:10:08 Kathryne Carr Sunapee/ S&W Racing Team Easthampton MA
19 st Sarah Chubb Sauvayre CRCA/Comedy Central-Sid’s Bikes New York NY
20 st Nicole Marcoe
21 st Beth Saman Eastern Bloc/Benidorm Bristol CT
22 st Maria Vlasak Connecticut Coast Cycling Stamford CT
23 0:10:24 Erica Adelberg CRCA/Radical Media New York NY
24 0:13:01 Hannah Kirshner Bikeworks/Hallamore Providence RI
25 0:13:31 Stacey Smith Connecticut Coast Cycling Greenwich CT
26 0:13:42 Cheryl Wolf Bethel Cycle Ridgefield CT
27 0:15:25 Sue Kuenstner Cafeteros Cycling Club Greenwich CT
28 0:16:33 Caryl Gale CRCA-Comedy Central-Sids Hoboken NJ
29 0:17:36 Colleen Conway CRCA / Avenue A | Razorfish Cycling New York NY
30 0:18:21 Katherine Snell Northeast Bicycle Club (NEBC) Nashua NH
31 0:19:57 Eliz McPherson
32 0:20:45 Karen Franzen CVC/Subaru of New England Wethersfield CT
33 0:20:49 Kimberly Edwards CVC/Subaru of New England Clinton CT
34 0:21:00 Elizabeth Weemhoff Fairfield CT
35 0:23:31 Britlee Bowman Unattached New York NY
36 0:28:44 Patricia Faerber Eastern Bloc Cycling Club Bloomfield CT
37 0:29:10 Kate Conway West Hill Brattleboro VT
38 0:29:30 Helen Pearce Boston Scientific Cycling Club Lancaster MA
39 0:30:42 Caitlin McVarish connecticut coast cycling Stamford CT
40 0:32:01 Carol Decourcey Boston Scientific Cycling Club Maynard MA
41 0:33:16 Michelle Faurot Connecticut Coast Cycling Rowayton CT
42 0:39:38 Althea Grace Pineda crca/nyvelocity New York NY
43 0:45:38 Yvonne Boogaerts Connecticut Coast Cycling Cos Cob CT

junior 44 miles 13 starters LAJORS
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State 1 17-18
1 2:18:40 Anson Ross quinebaug valley velo Plainfield CT 2 17-18
2 st Michael Discenza Greater Hartford Cycling Club Burlington CT 3 17-18
3 0:00:14 Jordan Strober CRCA JrDev/ Orbea Yorktown Heights NY 4 17-18
4 0:02:53 Benjamin Wolfe Mystic Velo Juniors/ Connaughty Chiropractic Old Lyme CT 1 15-16
5 0:06:15 Will Doemland GHCC/Central Wheel p/b U.S. Army Farmington CT 5 17-18
6 0:08:49 Evan Kirk MVC Old Lyme CT 2 15-16
7 st Nathan Etchells Mystic Velo-Connaughty Chiropractic Sterling CT 6 17-18
8 0:09:17 Matthew Gilbert NBX / Apex tech. Wakefield RI 3 15-16
9 0:23:16 Ben Lubkin Storm Racing Rye Brook NY 7 17-18
dsq roll out Dan Gentile Team Bicycle Alley Holden MA
dsq roll out Robert Vossler US Army/Central Wheel-GHCC W Hartford DC

Cat 3 Men 66 miles 66 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State LAJORS U23
1 3:05:32 Brian Gabele CRCA/SouthAfrica.net New York NY
2 0:00:21 Greg Olsen CRCA/Jonathan Adler Racing Ny NY
3 st Nick Pignatello Exodus Road Racing Griswold CT
4 st Stephen Gray Bethel Cycle Middletown CT
5 0:00:32 Ernest Tautkus Exodus Road Racing/Pools etc/Brumble Bikes Uncasville CT
6 st Jordan Sagalowsky Plan2Peak.com Brookline MA
7 st Jim Komarmi Flatbread – Ottercreek Cycling Waitsfield VT
8 st Pascal Sauvayre CRCA/Merrill Lynch New York NY
9 st David Costa Watchung Wheelmen Roselle Park NJ
10 st John Landino Westwood Velo-Trade Manage Racing Westwood NJ
11 st James Combs Boston Road Club! Cambridge MA
12 st Louis Donato GS Park Ridge/Cyclesport Airmont NY
13 st Patrick Clifford BICYCLE DEPOT,New Paltz, NY New Paltz NY
14 st Joe Kubisek Cheshire Cycle Racing Southington CT
15 0:00:53 Alex Cox Freddie Fu Cycling Team Burlington VT 1
16 0:01:10 Joseph Azze Team Blue Ribbon-Translations.com Hawthorne NJ
17 st Miro Koulnis BikeReg.com Worcester MA
18 st Brian Campbell NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Waltham MA
19 st Calvin Smythe xXx Racing/AthletiCo Swanzey NH 2
20 st Erik Markewich Windham Mountain Outfitters Stephentown NY
21 st Damian Bolduc Flatbread-Otter Creek Cycling South Burlington VT
22 st Brendan Meryman Team NH/NHCC Holderness NH 3
23 st Vladimir Borovkov team somerset South River NJ
24 0:01:29 Christopher Chaput CRCA Brooklyn NY
25 0:01:46 Matt Cuttler CRCA/Affinity Cycles Brooklyn NY
26 0:02:02 Kevin Backhouse Boston Road Club Boston MA
27 st Jonathan Peterson Northampton Cycling Club Adams MA
28 st Ryan Carney NorEast Cycling Enfield NH
29 st unknown rider
30 st Sean Groenewald CRCA/SouthAfrica.net West New York NJ
31 0:02:25 Timothy Collins CRCA/Jonathan Adler Racing Brooklyn NY
32 0:02:53 John Broussard NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Wilmington MA
33 0:03:12 Aaron Wolfe CRCA/SouthAfrica.net New York NY
34 0:05:41 Michael Rea Hanover NH
35 0:08:30 David Fierro Exodus Road Racing/Pools etc/Brumble Bikes Uncasville CT
36 0:09:08 Jean Defrancesco-Sias North Atlantic Velo/Classbook/Pedros Killington VT
37 0:14:28 Angel Martinez 3D Racing Team/Tom’s Atlantic Cyclery Morganville NJ
38 0:16:21 Keith Snyder Kissena Cycling Club Brooklyn NY
39 0:23:56 Matthew Spaits Boston Road Club! Somerville MA
40 0:34:57 Peter Hurst Connecticut Coast Cycling New Canaan CT
41 0:35:02 Paul Dolan New Milford CT
42 0:40:45 Sean Langford CCB/Volkswagen Middleton MA

Cat 4 Men 44 miles 82 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State
1 2:01:50 Jon Nash Pawling NY
2 st Rob McHardy Benidorm Bikes/Eastern Bloc West Hartford CT
3 st Eric Weinrich portland velo/ cyclemania Yarmouth ME
4 st Jason Prusaczyk Benidorm Bike / EBCC Farmington CT
5 st Andy Newsom Brooklyn NY
6 st Christopher Gagne Boston Road Club Arlington MA
7 0:00:10 Chris Butler Epic Velo / Cheshire Cycle Meriden CT
8 st Callum Ingram Putney VT
9 st Colby Ricker NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Somerville MA
10 st Aaron Hall Harvard Somerville MA
11 st
12 st David Trumpf CRCA/NYvelocity New York NY
13 0:00:26 Shane Moran Westwood Velo Piermont NY
14 st Eric Krivitzky Penguin Racing Brownsville VT
15 st Shane Buker Harvard University Cycling Association Jamaica Plain MA
16 st Todd Jakubek Colavita Racing Inc. Concord MA
17 0:00:50 Jason Schreer Potsdam NY
18 st Torbjorn Phillpotts Quad Cycles Medford MA
19 0:01:00 Michael Fairhurst unattached Somerville MA
20 st David Penney Unattached Lyndeborough NH
21 0:01:53 Radu Jianu Refunds Now Medford MA
22 0:04:10 Rob Ehrman Vision Quest Coaching New Haven CT
23 st Carlos Quintero Cafeteros Cycling Club Wappingers Falls NY
24 0:05:09 Leon Lyakovetsky Connecticut Coast Cycling Norwalk CT
25 st Todd McLoughlin Kissena New York NY
26 st Alan Blanchard GS Park Ridge Team Cyclesport New City NY
27 st David Smallwood Boston Road Club Brighton MA
28 st Esteban Sequera Benidorm Bikes/Eastern Bloc C.C. Milford CT
29 st Gregg Ferraris Epic Velo / Cheshire Cycle Meriden CT
30 st Jay Vincent Cycle Center Racing Bethel CT
31 st Aleksander Betko CRCA/Blue Ribbon-Translations.com New York NY
32 st Todd Brilliant CRCA/Setanta New York NY
33 st Michael Brier Refunds Now Providence RI
34 0:05:17 Oscar Jimenez NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Lowell MA
35 st Sebastian Dunn CVC/Subaru of New England Middletown CT
36 0:07:18 Dwayne Melton Mystic Velo Norwich CT
37 0:07:57 Jason Moriarty Colavita Racing Inc. Stafford CT
38 0:08:29 Jay Trojan Century Drywall Inc. Lincoln RI
39 0:09:29 Geoff Martin NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Watertown MA
40 0:09:36 Robert Magadini Bershire bike and board Gt Barrington MA
41 0:09:55 Justin Tyberg Bethel Cycle Mahopac NY
42 0:11:08 John Abrahamsen Claremont Cycle Depot W. Windsor VT
43 st Alvin Poblacion CRCA/NYVELOCITY New York NY
44 st Joseph Ficara Minuteman Road Club Shrewsbury MA
45 0:11:36 Jeff Gelt U.S. Army/Central Wheel-GHCC Plainville CT
46 st John Cutler CRCA Astoria NY
47 st Marcus Jang Providence Velo Club p/b Refunds Now Providence RI
48 0:13:43 Robert Dibattista NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Framingham MA
49 0:14:49 Scott Glowa Cambridge Bicycle / Igleheart Frames Providence RI
50 0:15:26 Zachary Wills IBC racing Cambridge MA
51 0:16:09 Steven Senne Boston Road Club East Walpole MA
52 0:17:43 William Vannieuwenhuyze Zephyr Cycling Team North Haven CT
53 0:18:16 Eduardo Atehortua cafeteros Cycling Club Harrison NY
54 st Miguel Torres Jr Laurel Bicycle Club Waterbury CT
55 0:19:48 Chris Petrillo CVC/Subaru of New England Tariffville CT
56 0:21:08 Ricardo Hernandez cafeteros cycling club Bridgeport CT
57 st Alfonso Llanos the cafeteros Stamford CT
58 0:21:33 Andrew Lawrence CRCA/NyVelocity New York NY
59 st John Slagle CRCA/ NYVelocity Brooklyn NY
60 0:23:03 Matt Regan upper valley velo/ Drummond custom cycles New London NH
61 0:27:06 Kurt Peterson Unattached Durham CT
62 0:28:05 Victor Medeiros Bike Works/Hallamore Fall River MA
63 0:29:16 Joel Rathbun CRCA / Avenue A | Razorfish Cycling New York NY
64 0:48:22 John Miller Champion Systems p/b Cycles Gladiator Wine Brooklyn NY

Cat 4/5 Men 22 miles 74 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State
1 0:56:40 Justin Harris Wappingers Falls NY
2 0:00:41 Cliff Goldstein Georgetown University New York NY
3 0:00:53 Thomas Potenza Cranston RI
4 st Jonathan Dreher Cambridge MA
5 0:01:07 Jason Schmidt New York NY
6 0:01:33 Peter Askin Team Scapin Larchmont NY
7 0:01:44 Brett Zglazek
8 0:01:51 Paul Novotasky Jr. Pig Iron Sports East Hartford CT
9 0:01:54 Anthony Jazew
10 st Jeremy Drowne Battenkill-United Saratoga Springs NY
11 st Tarquin James Katis Stamford CT
12 st Nicholas Bartow Berkshire Bike and Board Ashley Falls MA
13 st Lance Mitchell Minuteman Road Club Northborough MA
14 0:03:24 Stephen Dowsett BCA/ tosk Pittsfield MA
15 0:03:49 Eder Marcus CRCA
16 0:04:39 William Thompson Poughquag NY
17 st Justin Ringling Westerly RI
18 st Tom Hixon
19 st Bob Hannon Mystic Velo Club Marlborough CT
20 st Greg Hester Marlborough CT
21 0:05:01 Timothy Durrin Berkshire Bike and Board Great Barrington MA
22 st Brian Nolan International Bicycle/Global Norwich VT
23 0:05:18 Patrick Zglazek
24 0:05:34 Jonathan Tarbox Delta Surveying Services Windsor CT
25 0:05:53 Jason Root Berkshire Bike and Board Great Barrington MA
26 st Dennis Desmarais Glastonbury CT
27 0:06:02 Mark Livingston Amston CT
28 0:06:08 Mrashall Johnson
29 st Kyle Herlihy Connecticut Coast Cycling Stamford CT
30 st Matthew Snow BREAKING AWAY BICYCLES Fairfield CT
31 st Jorg Polster Breaking Away Bicycles Norwalk CT
32 0:06:25 John Mutterperl Cafeteros Old Greenwich CT
33 0:06:31 Michael Foley Team Bicycle Alley Paxton MA
34 st Donald Salvino Connecticut Coast Cycling Wilton CT
35 st Vladimir Auster Benidorm Bikes /Eastern Bloc C.C. Avon CT
36 st Thomas Mikolinski Champion Systems New York NY
37 st Sam Strober Pawling cycle and sport Yorktown Heights NY
38 0:07:02 Thomas Hoogendyk Northampton Cycling Club (NCC) Holyoke MA
39 st Michael Dimson Yorktown Cycles Bedford NY
40 st Gary Bolduc Farmington CT
41 st John Weaver Mystic Velo Groton CT
42 0:08:28 Michael Colabella Connecticut Coast Cycling Trumbull CT
43 st Hernan Tola cafeteros club White Plains NY
44 0:09:01 Mark Griffon CPS Salem NH
45 0:09:11 Anthony Codding Brooklyn Arches Brooklyn NY
46 0:09:46 Christopher Payton NEBC/Cycle Loft/Devonshire Dental Newton MA
47 0:10:36 Steve Hahn Team Colivita CT Avon CT
48 st Bill Giuditta Middlebury CT
49 st Thomas Salvini Granby Bicycle E. Gramby CT
50 st James Triano Easton CT
51 0:10:55 Frank Navone TARGETTRAINING Newtown CT
52 0:11:12 Patrick Kelly North Andover MA
53 0:11:19 Tony Bezzini CVC/Subaru of New England Manchester CT
54 0:11:34 Edival Dos Santos Bethel cycle New Fairfield CT
55 0:12:49 Richard Schuyler Eastern Bloc Canton CT
56 st Nelson French Unattached Norwich CT
57 0:13:21 Brooks Rorke Laurel Bike Club Guilford CT
58 0:14:04 Morgan Rueckert Benidorm Bikes /Eastern Bloc C.C. West Hartford CT
59 0:16:09 Scott Beauregard Shoreline Sharks Milford CT
60 0:18:23 Robert Espinal CRCA New York NY
61 0:19:42 Steven Bazewicz Wilton CT
62 st Marc Sacco New Fairfield CT

Masters 35+ (cat 1-4) 44 miles 37 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State
1 2:00:13 Roger Aspholm Westwood Velo Haworth NJ
2 0:01:41 Kevin Hines Corner Cycle E. Wareham MA
3 0:01:51 Jonny Bold Corner Cycle Marstons Mills MA
4 0:02:25 Ciaran Mangan CCB/Volkswagen Brighton MA
5 st Scott Bodin TARGETRAINING Nanuet NY
6 0:02:34 Robert Lattanzi CRCA/Sid’s-Cannondale Ny NY
7 st Max Lippolis TARGETRAINING Pound Ridge NY
8 st Joseph Regan Bethel Cycle Sport Branford CT
9 st Robert Larocco CVC/Subaru of New England Manchester CT
10 st Jayson Hurd Arc-En-Ciel Racing Team South Kingstown RI
11 st Maximino Veiga TARGETRAINING / FASTAR Danbury CT
12 st Gerard O’Shea CCC/Keltic Const/Zanes Cycles Clinton CT
13 st Bruce Diehl Sunapee S&W Racing Jackson NH
14 st Mark Paggioli CVC Subaru of New England Glastonbury CT
15 st Mike Spangenberg Battenkill United/Anthem cycles Shaftsbury VT
16 st Gregg Galletta CRCA – Merrill Lynch/Hincapie Sports New York NY
17 st Bryan Atwood zephyr Litchfield CT
18 st Jesus E. Espitia CRCA/Blue Ribbon – Translations.com Ossining NY
19 0:03:32 Edward Angeli Horst – Benidorm – PRC Southington CT
20 0:04:16 Monte Frank Cycle Fitness Sandy Hook CT
21 0:05:34 Joel Biederman Cyclonauts Racers Suffield CT
22 0:13:30 Ryan Haug CONNECTICUT COAST CYCLING Seymour CT
23 0:14:37 Tony Settel Deno’s Wonder Wheel Brooklyn NY
24 0:14:44 A. Zane Wenzel Horst – Benidorm – Property Research Corp Middletown CT
25 0:14:49 Patrick Brandon CCNS/Pedal Power Killingwoth CT
26 st Rick Hall CRCA / Avenue A | Razorfish Cycling Ny NY
27 0:23:51 Ian Sinclair TARGETRAINING Avon CT
28 st Gary Aspnes Horst-Benidorm-Property Research Corp. Rockville RI
29 0:33:52 Michael Norton Cyclonauts Racers Monson MA

Masters 45+ (cat 1-4) 44 miles 73 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State
1 1:55:00 John Funk Cycle Fitness South Kent CT
2 0:01:07 Gerry Clapper Benidorm Bikes/ Eastern Bloc CC Avon CT
3 0:01:21 Dzmitry Buben CCB/Volkswagen
4 0:01:40 Douglas Jansen International Bicycle/Global Pelham NH
5 0:01:54 Tom Officer Cycle Fitness Litchfield CT
6 st Adam Sternfield Millwork One Racing/WeeBIKE.com Brookline MA
7 st Edward Schaub Benidorm BIkes/Eastern Bloc Windsor CT
8 st Bob Meikle Mystic Velo Club Waterford CT
9 st Alec Petro Team Psycho Duxbury MA
10 st Paul Wonsavage Onion River Sports Hanover NH
11 0:04:07 John Nobile Fairfield CT
12 0:06:31 Damian Dicostanzo Deno’s Wonder Wheel Rye NY
13 0:07:19 Carl Reglar Mount Vernon NY
14 st Haluk Sarci Strictly Bicycle Cresskill NJ
15 st Randy Kirk Cycle Fitness Avon CT
16 st Karl Hambrecht CCB/Volkswagen West Newbury MA
17 st Kevin Fitzmaurice Zephyr Cycling Team Middlebury CT
18 0:07:41 William Thompson CCC/Keltic Const/Zanes Cycles West Hartford CT
19 st Bob Donahue Gearworks/Spinarts Princeton MA
20 st Alvaro Betancur Cafeteros Cycling Club New Rochelle NY
21 0:08:07 Philip Beliveau GMBC St. George VT
22 0:08:37 Casey Lindstrom Essex County Velo Newton MA
23 st David Kellogg Arc En Ciel Providence RI
24 0:09:58 Robert Degrace Lunenburg MA
25 st Paul Hayes Guilford CT
26 st Scott Klion Competitive Edge New York NY
27 st David Birrell NCC-BikeReg Cummington MA
28 st Christopher Dimattio Bethel Sport CLub Wilton CT
29 st Jody Dean Team International Bicycle Center Hudson MA
30 st Oscar Osorio cafeteros cycling club Norwalk CT
31 st Art Podgorski Jr. Cyclonauts Racers inc. Feeding Hills MA
32 st Kelly Parsons Mystic Velo Club Lyme CT
33 st Eric Derivera Competitive Edge Racing Team West Boylston MA
34 st Wayne Prescott Horst-Benidorm-Property Research Corp. Canton CT
35 0:10:26 Thomas Coleman Cafeteros Cycling Club Greenwich CT
36 st Paul Nyberg Horst-Benidorm-Property Research Corp. Avon CT
37 st Jose Hernandez Colavita Racing Linden NJ
38 st Casey Gawlak Pawling Cycle & Sport New Milford CT
39 st Michael Stimson CCC/Keltic Const/Zanes Cycles West Hartford CT
40 st Curtis Cess Pawling Cycle & Sport Pawling NY
41 0:11:01 Roman Paczka Main Line Cycling – Bikyle Brooklyn NY
42 st Mark Czarnecki Laurel Bicycle Club Guilford CT
43 0:11:18 William Kleinmann cafeteros Stamford CT
44 0:15:05 Tom Bowmaster Liberty Cycle Morristown NJ
45 0:15:33 Bruce Armentrout Battenkill United/Unicorr Williamstown MA
46 0:16:08 Kevin Young International Bicycle/Global Northbridge MA
47 0:16:50 John Laupheimer International Bicycle/Global Weston MA
48 st William Segraves Yale Bulldog Cycling Guilford CT
49 0:17:06 Robert Burstein capital velo club/Subaru of New England Ellington CT
50 0:17:59 Peter Crowley NCC/Northampton Cycle Club Pelham MA
51 0:19:07 Brian Wolf Bethel Cycle Ridgefield CT
52 0:19:17 Mike Harris International Bicycle/Global Concord MA
53 0:21:18 David King CCB/Volkswagen Boxford MA
54 0:22:09 Douglas Crane Cafeteros Norwalk CT
55 0:22:35 Scott Loring unattached New London CT
56 st Ken Coleman Housatonic Wheel Club New York NY
57 0:23:09 Jesus Vazquez MBRC/Bycicle Link Holbrook MA
58 st Joe Horan MinutemanRoadClub Ashland MA
59 0:23:23 Joseph Lellman Northampton Cycling Club Florence MA
60 0:23:57 Jorge Ramirez Cyclonauts Racers Worcester MA
61 0:24:39 Donald Catlin Team Mossman/ Tokeneke Racing Fairfield CT
62 0:28:31 Christopher Vossler US Army/Central Wheel-GHCC West Hartford CT
63 0:33:40 Mark Luzio CYCLE FITNESS Brooklyn CT

Masters 55+ (cat 1-4) 44 miles 21 starters
Place Time First Name Last Name Team City State
1 2:09:26 George Pawle Cyclonauts Racers Westfield MA
2 st Reb Cole cafeteros Mohegan Lake, NY
3 st Paul Siebert Competitive Edge Racing Team Bennington VT
4 st Bruce Townend Competitive Edge Racing Team Windsor MA
5 0:00:59 David Kliger Cafeteros Cycling Club Yonkers NY
6 0:02:14 Hajo Thiele Cafeteros Cycling Club Larchmont NY
7 0:05:39 David Burnell cox communications cycling team Jamestown RI
8 0:06:30 Richard Martin Masters Velo Attleboro MA
9 st Michael Patterson New York NY
10 st Horacio Ahumada CAFETEROS CYCLING CLUB White Plains NY
11 st Jeff Morin Mystic Velo Waterford CT
12 st David Burnett Mystic Velo \ MCRA Norwich CT
13 0:11:49 David Lucey NCC / BikeReg.com Florence MA
14 0:14:54 Bill Connolly MBRC/Bicycle Link Milton MA
15 0:17:51 Mieczyslaus Burzynski B.O.B.Stonyfield Farms Goodale’s Bike Newburyport MA
16 0:17:57 David Holmander NHCC/Team NH/MCRA Epsom NH
17 0:18:21 Bob Ludecke laurel bike club Milldale CT
18 0:18:21 Walter Hard Eastern Bloc Cycling Club New Hartford CT
19 0:26:20 Phillip Hershberger CBRC Climax NY
20 0:29:03 Ken Swankie Laurel Bicycle Club-mcra Guilford CT
21 0:43:33 Bruce Carlson Putney/West Hill Newington CT

Wheelsucker

another in the guys who should upgrade category are those Global Locate guys. Bike Reg has Gary Steinberg winning the masters race at the Gate City criterium.

Wheelsucker

I suppose if they only did masters races they wouldn’t. But those guys are usually doing the cat 3 races as well.

Get a clue

I think you missed the point. If you only race masters then you do not have anywhere to upgrade to. 35plus is the top of the heap. Those guys are not sandbagging if they are winning 35plus 1-4.

BTW – The hincapie sports link on the right brings you to the NYTimes? I am sure they would be happy to know this.

suckha

Seems like Premier is hosting events like Vernon without USCF licensing. I was confused when someone told me that today. Wierd because they checked my USCF license and then had me sign a USCF waiver and release.

what other race organization is there that governs this stuff? was the race held under their rules? what about insurance if we had a pile up? and lastly, while i was out of the running for it, I assume the NY and NJ cycling federations dont use non uscf races for upgrading?

Maybe thats why their events are not gaining big crowds. You eat it hard, atleast at USCF races you get your hospital coverage paid for!

Mr. Defensive

Acutally I am an under 30 Cat3 with no real desire to upgrade past 3. Why – too slow for the next level and not enough time to train. BTW – I hear besides racing Pro1-2 (I have raced plent Pro1-3 races) that the 35plus is by far the next hardest cat. The talent in the masters fields is no joke. Thanks

Wheelsucker

35+ is fast for the break the rest of the race is slower then a cat 5 race. Being legitimate is not the point. The point is the fags complaining about sandbagging.

Lamb Chop

This race was run under ABR(American Bicycle Racing) which, according to their website, does not recognize USCF licenses. Every rider at that race should have been required to purchase an ABR one-day or annual license. The race should not count for upgrade points with USCF and will also not count for USCF rankings.

Charlie Issendorf

The final race of the 2008 Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series wil take place tonight at Floyd Bennett Field. It’s double points.

Wheelsucker

you can’t cat upgrade from masters pst. for example, a 40 year old cat 4 win/placessin a masters race, even a big out of towner. it doesn’t count towards a cat 3 upgrade even though he might have beat cat 3s on up in that masters field.

Sandbagging through life

If you want to talk about real sandbaggers. James Morrison is the champ. He has more top 3s than anyone in the North East and a handful of wins. He just got off an impressive showing at ESGs racing against some strong 2s and 1s. Now he is racing Cat3/4 at Capital RR. The guy is super strong but there is a point when you have to wonder if his ego is preventing him from upgrading.

Gary

greetings from rainy vacationland. If Dan and Andy made a poll I’d upgrade base on the results. Though we may need to get an official on board since I’m not sure I really have the points. It might also me good to know if the guys doing the complaining are factoring into the races you’re talking about. It would seem not as most of the top cat 3 finishers are usually old guys. So yeah I could upgrade but you’d still lose to James, or Juan (Sommerville), or Thomas Wood (Harlem & DE) or Michael Norton. If you can’t beat a bunch of old guys how important are those upgrade points going to be? Plus there’s a wealth of information there that you’d be better served to tap into than push into the elephants’ graveyard so your resume looks better on paper.

Back to rain.

Gary

smithbro

Let me set the record straight. The Cedar Mountain course was supposed to be part of the four day stage race that the NJBA refused to issue a USCF permit due to a schedule conflict with a time trial over 80 miles away. We filed a grieviance with the USCF and they sided with the NJBA. In the arbitrator’s conclusion he indicated that we were free to sanction this event through a third party. That is exactly what we did. As far as one day’s we integrated them into the release forms and picked up the tab. This race was fully insured and sanctioned. If you do go to the ABR site they indicate they do not except USCF licenses, however they do reconize CATS. The six USCF and now ABR officials that handled this race have over 40 years combined experiance officiating races. This is a common practice out in the Midwest where ABR dominates most grass roots racing. This race went off pretty flawlessly for a first year road race. (see recaps on Peloton East)
Ray busts his ass to make these races happen. We see it as a great opportunity to bring ABR into the state of NJ opening up more opportunities for grass roots racing at a cheaper cost to riders license fees etc. Based on the race scheduling and a new pending lawsuit against the NJBA we will most likely be hosting more of these events in the future. Of course we would avoid conflicting races in NY at all costs. We have a great relationship and respect for Charlie I. and company and know what it takes to make these races happen.

We thank all riders who particpate at our events.

The crew at Premiere.

Care Bear

Hey Premiere guys — I heard that you never turned over thousands of dollars in insurance surcharges that you collected from the riders to USAC. Is that true? Are you going to do the same thing to ABR? And who will license your races then if you do?

Wheelsucker

Do you know that is a fact? Are you 100% sure? 100%?
The last thing we need is the slandering promoters that want to bring good racing to the area.

tmains

I can confirm what Care Bear is stating. As of today, August 12th, 2008 at 10:45AM Premiere Cycling has failed to submit nearly $5,000 in surcharges that were collected from riders or the accompanying paperwork to both the local association and to USACycling. This is why USACycling did not grant the permit for Cedar Mountain and Premiere was forced to run it through ABR.

Tom Mains
President
New Jersey Bicycling Association

No More Tears

Why are there so many people who complain who is in what class wah wah! Jesus…go out ride your bike and have fun! Isn’t what this is all about? I mean if this was your job thats one thing…but this is a hobby/passion of sorts. If someone is faster than you in your class then train harder or deal with it. Its a never ending cycle anyway. People complain about sandbaggers, well if they move up, then you’ll become a sandbagger, or if not, you will move up too shortly after and still race against the same guys you did in a lower class and cry just the same.

WOW…my 18 month old niece cries less than you guys!

Wheelsucker

the Premiere simplified version of the pending lawsuit, acting as though the conflicting event was just some simple little TT. It was a major event (Giro de NJ) that was a 3 day stage race, and Premiere has made a legit decision into a legal shit show. Shame on you guys all around – esp for taking riders’ money and holding onto it – what are you doing with it – using it to pay your legal bills now? Asses.

Wheelsucker

how they use the denial of licenses to spin it as an “opportunity” for NJ riders to get into “grass roots” races, rather than a backstop for their continued attempt to make money. Nothing wrong with making money or promoting races, but the spin is over the top. How about just admitting the situation is a backstop and everyone can understand and even support that? It is what it is guys.

Wheelsucker

Whoever you are. Would having a whole thread for you to discuss whether you should upgrade make you physically aroused? Wouldnt that be just cool if everyone had a party just for you?

smithbro

Thanks for that excellent point Tom.
Can you also confirm the following:

Can you confirm that Premiere has paid some surcharges in 2008 but stopped paying around the time the USCF greviance was submitted?

Premiere has conducted more races in NJ then any other promoter in NJ the last 5 years.

Premiere has collected and paid more USAC insurance surcharges then any other promoter in NJ the last 5 years.

Premiere has collected and paid more $2.00 per rider NJBA surcharge tax then any other promoter in NJ in the last 5 years.

Can you confirm how much funds are currently in the NJBA so called non profit orginization account as we speak?

Can you confirm a dollar amount or any race support that the NJBA have reciprocated back to Premiere in the last five years? You know simple things like port a johns — first aid kits etc. Please exclude the $100.00 finish camera rebate that you squashed last year.
Better yet, why don’t you explain all of benefits to the 60% of NY riders that attend Premiere events get. You know like a typical Branchbrook race… Gee, I raced in Prospect and never paid a dime in any kind of surcharges to the NY local??

How about the last time a NJ state coordinator attended a race conducted by Premiere or showed support emails, etc?

Can you confirm that you announced a stage race in South Jersey around a week after you squashed the Tour of Vernon. Maybe I can help you with the emails that were sent out.

Can you confirm that Premiere just pulled off a major road race without the NJBA.

Can you confirm that you banned myself from the NJBA message board without warning me in any way shape or form.

Can you confirm that The RTT 29 timetrial series is conducted through ABR and you allow that promoter to post along with other Charity rides non USCF events etc on the NJBA Message board?

I will be happy to go on and on and on with this baby shit but I have more bicyle races and new series coming up like a new race coming in mid Sept to Branchbrook, Most likely the short Cherry Blossom course. Look for it to be posted up on Premiere and Truesport shortly…..

Wheelsucker

If those dudes Tom and Smithbro own bikes, they should, like…, eh…, you know:

RACE each other!

Wheelsucker

If SmithBro is taking surcharges from riders and not passing them along, is it considered fraud, stealing or something else?

Wheelsucker

Fraud is defined as an intentional deception for personal gain. If SmithBro advertises ona race flyer that they are collecting surcharges for USACycling but has no intention of ever turning that money over, it constitutes a fraud against the riders.

If however, SmithBro simply refuses to turn over the surcharges that they’ve collected (and have contractually agreed to give to USACycling) it constitutes theft.

This situation sounds more like theft than fraud.

Wheelsucker

maybe they shoud just give the surcharges back to the riders…i swore i’d never go do another branchbrrok race again but maybe i’ll go just so i can ask for the surcharges back that i paid in the spring

Wheelsucker

for me its simple, its a lack of integrity. premier took monies from riders stating that the fees we paid were a certain amount because of monies collected for USCF surcharges which covers things like insurance and OUR participation in USCF. Then, due to whatever their grievances they have with USCF, determined to do some self help and keep the monies we forked over for their pockets.
that is theft not sure what else you call it. what you paid int he past is what you were supposed to pay. that you were the largest promoter in the land, the savior of cycling in our area, doesnt forgive you for collecting rider monies and not delivering them, as you agreed to do so in your USCF permitted event.

But why was i required to sign a USCF waiver this weekend? thats insane. almost deceptive. I would have sworn that in signing a uscf rider release, and your checking my uscf license, that i would have had insurance coverage, and that my results, had i placed well, might have earned me upgrade points.

reading these posts, it seems premier has the belief that they are owed something from the NJBA and the USCF. events held under uscf permit are uscf events. they regulate it. they establish the rules. you’re for profit. why would you be expecting the uscf to be subsidizing your for profit race promotions? a nd then, they dont subsidize your efforts, and you with hold monies you owe and then get a little deceptive at the races?

crappoooooo i say.

smithbro

Thanks for all the positive feedback. We will let the courts decide and I will leave it at that. We have nothing to hide. I hope the NJBA is ready do the same.

Wheelsucka

I don’t care about a monetary spat Premiere has with USCF. They’re letting the courts decide, as he said. Fine by me.

I do know that Premiere cycling puts on a ton of races. I like to race. I hope they win their case and continute to do so. You should, too.

Thanks Premiere and good luck.

Wheelsucker

We all like to race. Who doesn’t?

I just think we are owed an explanation as to why they collected fees from us for the purpose of the USCF surcharge, for insurance, our participation in USCF, and they haven’t submitted those to the USCF?

Similar to what a few have said on here, they should they return those back to the riders. After all, its our money, a ‘surcharge’.

And, deceptive use of USCF waivers at this weekends’ racing. i thought i had uscf insurance, it was a USCF race. i didnt see any notation of ABR on their flier. I didnt see any ABR officials, or use of ABR blue officials shirts. They just ran a loose, casual race with deceptive marketing, and then kept our surcharges for their own pockets.

I don’t hope they win. I hope they get their head handed to them.
Cheaters never prosper.

I cant believe others stand for it. just beceuase they put on agood races. tons of promoters put on great races. and do it honorably.

Charlie Issendorf

Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
August 12, 2008
Brooklyn NY

Pro / 1-2-3
51 starters

1. Horace Burrowes (WS United)
2. Joshua Alexander (CRCA/Foundation)
3. Adam Alexander (CRCA/Sakonnet)
4. Paul Burrowes (WS United)
5. Euris Rafael (CAICO)
6. Juan Almonte (Innovation Bike)

FINAL PRO/1-2-3 STANDINGS:

1. Horace Burrowes (WS United)
2. Paul Burrowes (WS United)
3. Euris Rafael (CAICO)

Category 3-4
58 starters

1. Anthony Maisto (Deno’s Wonder Wheel)
2. Frank Arroyo (CRCA/Axis)
3. George Gyarmathy (GBSC/Babylon Bike)
4. Sam Martinez (WS United)
5. James Buttler (Unatt)
6. Jamaul Nichols (Kissena)

FINAL CAT 3-4 STANDINGS:

1. James Joseph (WS United)
2. Anthony Maisto (Deno’s Wonder Wheel)
3. Frank Arroyo (CRCA/Axis)

Category 5
23 starters

1. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
2. Cliff Goldstein (Unatt)
3. Daniel Perez (Chelsea Bicycles)
4. Jason Schmidt (Unatt)
5. Oswaldo Perez (Unatt)
6. Wis Rojas (Unatt)

FINAL CAT 3-4 STANDINGS:

1. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
2. Daniel Perez (Chelsea Bicycles)
3. Jason Schmidt (Unatt)

Thanks to all the marshals, pacers, officials and Cadence Cycling for a great 2008 series.

Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club

Charlie Issendorf

THESE ARE THE FINAL CAT 5 STANDINGS:

1. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
2. Daniel Perez (Chelsea Bicycles)
3. Jason Schmidt (Unatt)

Wheelsucker

so what if they collected a surcharge? you went and did the race, you had fun, you paid the same entry fee you always pay. you didn’t have uscf insurance? who cares, it’s worthless. have you ever known anyone to crash and get some sort of coverage by uscf? i don’t, and i know a lot of people who have crashed and who have sustained major injuries. tighten up your panties. and they used uscf release forms? of course they did, it’s a legally binding waver absolving them of responsibility in case your dumb ass gets into an accident. you guys are always the same, some holier then though prick decides he’s been slighted and makes his whiny points anonymously, then every other douchebag decides to keep adding posts reiterating what the first guy says and they think they are making some amazing new point.

Wheelsucker

yeah, you guys are such holier than thou pussies. i guess i am the only (and most original) to make the point that you all should just grow a pair and pay for your own stupid injuries! did i mention that i’m the smartest person on this forum. smell the hate!

what an amazing new point i just made!

Wheelsucker

To me its not a matter of the insurance or the money owed to the USAC or the NJBA. It is just a matter of deception. The racers should be told its not a USCF/USAC event and we/they can make a decision what they want to do. No one is holding a gun to our heads to race or not to race.

As far as the surcharges collected again this falls under a matter of deception. For us NJ riders the NJBA surcharges go into different programs, banquets, a very nice web page, etc. I may disagree where some of the money goes, but I don’t go to the NJBA meetings and get involved. I pretty much just want to ride so I keep my mouth shut. Most of the NJ riders pay the surcharges with the knowledge of where it was going, right or wrong so this should be turned back over to the riders or the NJBA. Its is not for Premiere to decide what to do with it.

I have participated in Premiere’s races over the years and have won and or placed highly at these events. Like most promoters there have been good events and others that have not been so great. It is very good they put on a lot of races but racing is not cheap and we the riders have to hold the promoters to a higher standard.

Mr T

Im gonna injure your face, sucka! You gonna look like the reverse of my fist in a minute. See if USCF covers hand face suckas!

Charlie Issendorf

Revised results below. Joshua Alexander won last night’s race, not Horrace Burrowes. Overall results were not affected.

Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
August 12, 2008
Brooklyn NY

Pro / 1-2-3 *** REVISED **
51 starters

1. Joshua Alexander (CRCA/Foundation)
2. Horace Burrowes (WS United)
2. Joshua Alexander (CRCA/Foundation)
3. Adam Alexander (CRCA/Sakonnet)
4. Paul Burrowes (WS United)
5. Euris Rafael (CAICO)
6. Juan Almonte (Innovation Bike)

Charlie Issendorf

Revised results below. Joshua Alexander won last night’s race, not Horrace Burrowes. Overall results were not affected.

Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
August 12, 2008
Brooklyn NY

Pro / 1-2-3 *** REVISED **
51 starters

1. Joshua Alexander (CRCA/Foundation)
2. Horace Burrowes (WS United)
3. Adam Alexander (CRCA/Sakonnet)
4. Paul Burrowes (WS United)
5. Euris Rafael (CAICO)
6. Juan Almonte (Innovation Bike)

Wheelsucker

Someone makes a legit complaint about cheating, doping, or whatever. There are then lots of copycat statements, but thats what happens folks when a mob gets angry. More than one person wants to get their 2c in. Deal with it. Then, and most interestingly to me, there is the inveitable apologist with the weak moral compass that thinks that standing up to cheating or lying or ethical breaches is no big deal, and we should all shut up and ride. Its the anything goes mentality of these people that disturbs me really to the core. Ethics are the foundation of our society, and many young people in our midst have compromised this base with poor eduction, and poorer role models. Wake up and smell the cheating. Its not cool, and its not ok.

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