This hangover is a Fitchburg-centric version as there weren’t any other races really going on. Let’s delve right into the results, shall we? Jonathon Chodroff of Empire won the Pro Time trial on the first day, and after that I lost interest, not because I don’t want to know who won, but because the Fitchburg people have put together the slowest loading PDFs of all time. If you want to look up the results for yourself, go here, click on the PDFs and watch as your life slips away before your eyes and your fingernails grow about an inch while the files slowly load. If you did well at Fitchburg, please share with the group, preferably while pretending to be someone else.
Meanwhile at the Nationals, Ann Marie Miller of Sanchez Metro wins the TT, the Road race, and the Crit Championships – what did you do with your weekend? Did you win three champion’s jerseys? Aubrey Gordon of Liberty Cycle wins the men’s 50-55 Crit Championship. Full results here.
FIRST !!!
Looks like the locals really faded after the TT. No real results for anyone. Juniors to Pros – NYC/metro area racers = bad.
fitchburg was a buttload of fun- the race was really well done, and the courses were dynamic and fun (painful)- CRCA had a good showing as well-
Prensky 6th on GC after just upgrading. People talked about Jordan Sagolowski being the next big thing. I think Prensky is the next big racer. He will be a 2 if he wants by next spring the latest. Great job!
hi, i got 8th in the GC for cat 4 if that means anything to you
Great Job!
I see they put the 3s with the 1s and 2s. DNS due to injury but really wanted to try out the new course.
Anyone out there race it?
I raced Schooleys. With the exception of the older lady who was not vocal enough about taking the hard right turn so both the pace car and the field went straight for about 100 yards the race ws EXTREMELY well organised. Pleasant and encouraging police officers at every major intersection holding off traffic, pleasant and enthusiastic officials. The course was terrific having a cool winding descent which by the 3rd lap you were comfortable enough with and a tough uphill with a couple of nasty sections and 1.5 miles in total as it had a few flat sections in it. The race deserves full fields. For the record I sucked in the race so am not writing with rose tinted spectacles!
poor choirce of weekends, and questionable people running it…but as pfar ast eh course is concerned it was fantastic
iron hill?
Worst organized event ever. People organizing were a**holes. A team mate of mine wasn’t included in the results because the staff was incompetent. HOrrible, horrible experience, DO NOT SUPPORT THIS RACE EVER!
Cheyne Hoag of Sakonnet won the 2’s — he’s 19 as of March.
Keep up with all the negative shit guys that is the way to ensure we keep getting people organising races for us. WTF. Totally pathetic. What was your teamate like 30th or whatever in the Cat 4 so you diss the race, of course anonymously. You total wanker.
Impressive result indeed.
Great course – that is not up for argument.
The guy who was running it…I actually give him some credit, he winged it…made the best of the situation, which included a lot of bitchy cat 4 riders…and there were cops on every corner, we went wrong way for 100 yards 1st lap, no big deal….if your friend went up to the finish line they would have worked on placing him.
Bottomline – great course…clip in and ride hard.
Pretty good course. First time venue, so nobody really “knew” the course unless you live locally. Big, snakey downhill on some narrow, bumpy, patch-ridden backwoods road and a 2 mile twisty climb, with some sections reaching a decent % grade. Rolling stuff in between. Made for a real race of attrition this go-around. Worth checking out again next year.
Schooley’s. It seems that some of these new races (Schooley’s and Whiteface) were/are victims of bad scheduling. Both went up againt Stage races. Whiteface was an amazing course and very well run but the locals all did the GIro of NJ. Next year Whiteface will be a 2 day event to get people up there for the weekend and worth the drive. Schooley’s was in July going against racers who are buring out and not into racing/injuries and Fitch. I love that there are more and more races but if the market is saturated then we get low quality turnout. I am not sure what is better/worse.
Cat 1,2,3
PLACE TIME RIDER TEAM ST
1 2:50:22 Edwin Bull Van Dessel Factory team NJ
2 2:50:22 Bryan Borgia CRCA / Proasshit.dk CT
3 2:50:23 Maurice Gamanho CRC of A/Pete’s Bike shop NJ
4 2:55:55 Aaron Wolfe CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
5 2:56:19 Reed Albergotti Jonathan Adler Racing NY
6 2:56:21 Chris Chapman Westwood Velo NJ
7 3:01:17 Marc Adam Champion Systems NY
8 3:01:36 Brian Lariviere Team Bulldog/Campmor NJ
9 3:01:44 julian hunter Team Bulldog/Campmor NJ
10 3:02:02 Sean Groenewald Century Road Club Association NJ
11 3:02:05 Javier Mereles Cycle Craft NJ
12 3:08:08 Scott Hodder CRCA/DKNY-Signature Cycles NJ
13 3:15:23 Jamie Troy Liberty Cycle NJ
14 3:22:11 Greg Johnson Philadelphia Ciclismo PA
Cat 4
PLACE TIME RIDER TEAM ST
1 2:03:13 patrick campbell Westwood Velo/Trade Manage Capital NJ
2 2:03:36 Gregory Leach American University NJ
3 2:04:04 Louis Donato GS Park Ridge/Cyclesport NY
4 2:04:50 Jordan Strober Century Road Club Association NY
4 2:08:06 Dave Trimble Kissenq NY
5 2:08:14 S. Charles Zamastil Quaker City Wheelmen PA
6 2:08:17 Andy Keesler CRC of A/Pete’s Bike/ Bridgewater Marble & Granite NJ
7 2:08:21 Keith Licata Team Bulldog NJ
8 2:08:22 David Junius Westwood Velo NJ
9 2:10:32 Ross Marklein Quaker City Wheelmen PA
10 2:10:40 Dan Larino CRCofA/Petes Bike/Bridgewater Marble & Granite NJ
11 2:10:46 Shusaku Shiroyama GS Gotham/Toga Bikes NY
12 2:10:48 Ben Hughes CRCA/Merrill Lynch-Hincapie Sports NY
13 2:11:26 Kansas Waugh Jonathan Adler Racing NY
14 2:11:28 Rich Patterson Team Norwood Agency / The Peddler NJ
15 2:12:20 Ryan Phelan Fitness Mission/Allwood Bicycles NJ
16 2:12:39 Robin Kinney Big Wheel Sunrise NJ
17 2:12:42 Chris Mooney none NJ
18 2:12:52 benjamin tyszka CRCA/NYVelocity NY
19 2:13:43 george vlahogiannis TEAM FITNESS MISSION/ALLWOOD BICYCLES NJ
20 2:14:09 gino scotto CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
21 2:14:39 Bill Moss CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
22 2:14:43 Nicholas Chivily GS ParkRidge/Cyclesport NJ
23 2:14:46 julian natisin cycle funattic PA
24 2:15:23 Robert Rallo Rocket Racing NJ
25 2:15:38 Klaus Satzke Rocket Racing NJ
26 2:18:24 Richard Bravo PROASSHIT.dk NY
27 2:18:49 Jerry Ascolese Team Norwood Agency – The Peddler NJ
28 2:18:57 Ralph Smith Team Norwood Agency-The Peddler
Keep up with all the negative shit guys that is the way to ensure we keep getting people organising races for us. WTF. Totally pathetic. What was your teamate like 30th or whatever in the Cat 4 so you diss the race, of course anonymously. You total wanker.
you already wrote that, doosh
Totally understand the frustration with the person not getting scored properly at first, but wouldn’t go as far as to say never support the event again. Not really sure where the confusion happened, as riders were dogging across the line in one’s and two’s, so I cannot imagine there was issue with the camera reading #’s properly, etc. We were all hot and tired at the end, so not an ideal scenario for “negotiation”. I thought the promoter did a decent job. Course markings and marshalling could be refined for next time (which I offered to Ray at the finish as a constructive criticism), but I didn’t volunteer or bring one along, so I really can’t complain, since at least cars were safely stopped by local police.
I vouched for your teammate’s correct placing (which was nowhere near 30th, btw if anyone really needs to know), as it was a well deserved result. Hope the placing gets straightened out. I’d be bummed too.
Let’s not get nuts here. Live to fight another day.
http://www.crca.net/
Give Schmalz his FBF races and he’s happy and couldn’t care less about more important stuff like Fitchburg. I don’t know why you keep this site going and with your ability to bring out the worst in everyone , I’d wish you didn’t.
Disappointed with Schooley’s late notice start time change. Sent out late on July 4th, and didn’t get it until Sat evening. The only reason I signed up was for the 10:15 start time. I was unable to make the new time and requested a refund. Is that justified?
Did they make the Pro1-3 race 80 miles? If so i am glad I could not race. I was set to race the Cat3 (60miles) but no way I could hang for 80 miles on Hills in that weather Sunday…
CRCA present in every GC category!
http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
If someone paid me to go to Fitchburg, I might care. If you are not satisfied with the way the site is run, please write me a letter and I will refund your subscription fee.
I forgot – bite me!
Yes, promoter should give you a refund. (His discretion though).
Marlton-Evesham crit had outdated times on CCEvesham.net up until yeterday and on Bikereg up until last Wed at least. Promoter gave no-questions-asked cash refund on the spot to anyone who missed their race and asked – didn’t blink an eye.
stop hating. i raced schooleys and loved the course. it had an awesome mix of hills and moderately-technical descents that made me think i was in new england or something. it sure beat riding around in a circle in NYC somewhere.
there were definitely some (a lot) of organizational snafus but i presume (bet) it will be better next year.
As mentioned below, a very nice Fitchburg write-up at http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
Who wrote that up? Nicely done!
Maurice hanging with the cat 1/2’s…solid ride Maurice
great time
rr with hills in NJ = win. big win.
growing pains in a 1st time event = price of admission for new race. support promoters trying to put on good races. (hard to believe that needs to be said.)
locals/volunteers/cops very friendly
was a lot of fun. will definitely return.
Reading about who in a certain club finished 23rd and 34th is very good stuff!
For the 1st time – couldn’t ask for much more, quick results, great course, bathrooms clean, started on time, cops at corners, done and done.
The dude in the lead pace car was nothing but comedy….in the officials outfit, microphone with a bunch of crap hanging off his car….talkng the whole time, telling us the 5th lap, “Here it comes, 200 yards at 19 GRID”…like we didn’t know by that time, but I will say for all his funny comments they did a real nice job keeping cars away as the road was pretty much all to ourselves.
yes … in jersey! any out-of-stater should have full appreciation for that. stop signs, speed limits, HOV lanes, red lights – we take these as polite suggestions, at best
“In Jersey, everything is legal as long as you don’t get caught”
– Bob Dylan
was my favorite. most roads had to abandon them within 6 months. governor pulled the plug on all NJ HOV lanes in ’99.
when HOVers had to change lanes to exit the highway, other drivers would link up bumper-to-bumper and collude to not let them back in. forcing the HOV lane to come to a complete stop and negate any benefit.
comedy. pure comedy.
Anyone know what happened there?
consider plugging “iron hill” into google…good luck
Just something on the pdf file results. You should probably right click on the link and do a “save as” operation. Then look at the saved pdfs with a pdf viewer like Foxit Reader or Acrobat. This instead of having a browser plug-in handle the files. Some are large – in terms of pages (19, 24, 36, 57 and 101 pages) – and this is probably a problem for browsers but shouldn’t be for a standard pdf viewer.
“http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
Who wrote that up?”
Clue: at the top, near “By…”
hekman of toshiba won
by-line wasn’t there originially.
good flame though, sherlock.
I think Guttenplan was 2nd
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807070330
no floyd tomorrow night?
… it’s on the schedule, just didn’t see the pre reg on bikereg.com
theres always floyd.
42 guys finished iron hill, with around 125 starting. Lets just leave it at that.
Don’t hate on Schooley’s. That was an awesome course, and hopefully it will get a full field next time.I raced it with no expectations and it was a very pleasant surprise. The promoter had to wing it a bit because of low turnout, but he was a good guy and did well under circumstances. Yes, the pace car missed a turn, but the same thing happened at Sturbridge in Cat 3/4. Everything turned out alright in the end.
thanks for posting the schooley’s article. the press loves the crashes. it always amuses me how non-cyclists think a crash is a comeuppance for our wild and crazy lifestyle. “that’s what you get for showing off on your bike.”
and finishing times … they love them some finishing times.
http://velonews.com/article/73463/fresh-korn-blatent-generalities
I saw a guy on the hill snapping photos… any idea where they can be found?
tomorrow night is double points. should be fast
mmmmmmm
double points
Schooley’s had a beautiful and difficult course with one of the most toughest climbs of the year. Unfortunately the experience was dampened by rude and incompetent officials. I understand that they are doing a service putting on these races but I expected to at the very least have my results scored fairly (they aren’t doing this out of the kindness of their hearts at $45 a head)
The confusion was caused as soon as the cat 4 results were posted. I finished fourth yet my name was missing from finishing list. I confronted the officials and after several minutes of hard convincing they finally realized that I had in fact finished fourth (well over a minute ahead of fifth who dropped his chain on the final climb).
The race official took a pen and hand wrote my name on the results next to the fourth place slot.
So anyways no big deal, problem solved I thought. I took twenty minutes to load the car and go collect my price money.
The guy handing out prize money looks at my hand written name on the results and decides that it’s fifth place (apparently the fourth place check was already handed out to the fifth place finisher). I argue with him for a few minutes and he repeatable tries to give me the fifth place check. Finally I get the original official involved who reinstated my result initially.
The original official isn’t helpful and refuses to accept that my fourth place placing even though I had just previously clarified it with him (he claimed it was past the 15 minute protest period so I couldn’t do anything about it). After that we argued pointlessly for a few minutes and I finally left without my prize money and with serious doubts about my placing.
The results posted here show that I’m tied for fourth (although my time is listed wrong and behind the fifth place finisher)?? Not sure what’s going on with that but at this point don’t care as long as I get my upgrade points. The prize money would be nice to help cover the entry cost but I’m not expecting them to mail it to me. I
Most guys never see the top 5. You do on a regular basis. So you did not get the $25 bucks in prize money. Big deal. Be happy knowing you raced hard on a good course and had a top 5 or 4. Whats the difference. The racers know you were 4th. The placing on Bike Reg means nothing. Your biggest mistake was even caring enough to argue over 4th or 5th place.
i can’t even comprehend that comment.
b/c you are an idiot and take this shit way too serious…
It took that long today to get a hate comment, I think this is a record.
as a matter of principal, a rider should have a good result recorded properly. If the payout is advertised at a certain rate, a rider should be paid out accordingly. end of story. as for giving someone shit for ‘taking this too seriously,’ get real. if you don’t take yourself seriously, that’s not our problem. just don’t give somebody crap for having a different philosophy about racing. personally, i don’t see the point in doing something without the intention to perform as well as possible.
is it happening this year? am i asking too early. can’t find it listed in the obvious spots.
watch out for Dave Trimble! he’s coming for his 4th place check! no one swindles Trimble.
not asking late, just not happening
I’m told it’ll be back for 2009.
the race was completely fucked up, why you bothered to show up, is beyond me. Just don’t go next time.
for a ‘fitchburg-centric’ hangover, there sure is very little discussion of the race. a lot of NYC guys (and gals) must have stayed home.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38654427@N00/?saved=1
Coupe des Ameriques was this weekend in Canada. Good local showing by Doug Oneil, Roger Freidman, Ted Neu, Caryl Gale and me. Solid results with Doug 3rd on GC. Solid TTs by all of us, too. Really fun race though they completely botched the results for many of the stages, particularly the TT.
every year i want to race park ridge and every year it’s the same weekend as unionvale or some out of town race i normally do (fitchburg?). so i skip all those this year and they cancel it. i suck!
I read he had a bad crash early this year w/ 100 stitches. Anyone know which race? Glad to see he’s back. He’s got real talent.
Can we get some Fitchburg color here?
Biggest race in the NE and I have to read about some F’ed up race in NJ where everyone is bitching and a race in PA that no locals did.
Sunday, July 6, 2008
Wishing a speedy recovery to Sal Abbruzzese
http://www.targetraining.com/2008/07/wishing-speed-recovery-to-sal.html
Lattanzi too with a strong TT and GC. Sounds like Tony may have been podium for TT if timed right.
TS wrote:
“Coupe des Ameriques was this weekend in Canada. Good local showing by Doug Oneil, Roger Freidman, Ted Neu, Caryl Gale and me…”
Sal is a great guy and great racer. Gimbels is bad news. Last year the guy from Toga almost died. This year Sal goes down hard and another regular Gimbels rider was hurt bad in May. Bad roads, mixed fitness, cars, running reds and stop signs, and too many riders = big risk and lots of danger. For a ride that offers little in terms of challenging terrain its not worth the head ache these days.
Best wishes to Sal and a speed recovery.
well what else did you want to discuss
toto! i want to discuss toto!
Anyone have the course for Computrainer? Sounds safer…
Nothing like 75 riders of all fitness levels snaking through narrow roads, and attacking up the left into oncomming cars on blind turns. Then attacking through reds, Stop signs all to win the Gimbels sprint. You think that guy Hammean is bad in PP. Watch him in the gimbels. The best part is that the workout is totally lame. First 60 minutes they ride up Central Ave at 12mph (100watts). Then for 30-60 minutes (depending on group) you ride somewhat hard. Average power is about 135 watts /200Norm at the front. Lame ride on many levels. Only good to catch up with friends.
Gives cyclists a terrible rep in the WC area. Granted the a-holes in Range Rovers need to be more relaxed when driving behind cyclists but the fact is the group breaks every traffic rule during the ride. Running reds and stop signs. Going up around cars on both sides at full speed. 4 abreast. Every other weekend the cops pull over the ride. Total chaos representing everything you should not do on a group ride. Most of the participants do not race so this is there race every week. Taking stupid risks.
Not the first time he has roughed up someone on the podium. Remember him pushing Prince Charles off stage when Tour was in London. Prince was said to be “quite chuffed” to get this treatment from the Badger, as he should.
Greg Olsen took 2nd in the TT and 8th overall in GC
Fitchburg schimtzberg, there’s a floyd race tonight dammit!
Its possible that guys didnt bother riding the cat 3 tour de france up in fitchburg, as there was other racing to be had, for much much less out of pocket.
it sure sounds like some very satisfied racers who opted for non-fitchburg options!
Never done Green Mountain. How is the race overall? Town is great I am sure.
Hey Jordan Strober didn’t you get dropped from the lead pack??? how are listed tied for fourth? or did you get a time bonus for that post race crash? nice job
trimble impostor
i like the racing better at GMSR. I didn’t love the town the year i was there. drivers were surly, there was a lot of construction. but i like stage 1 a lot and the downtown crit is better than at fitchburg.
Is he that much of a Fuckard? I hope he is not calling out the CRCA Juniors Mafia…
gmsr is the best race all year. way more fun than fitchburg. this year it’s a time trial first stage instead of the hill climb prologue, though. and they’re scoring on time, not points.
schooley’s wasnt the only race. you guys are so single minded when it comes to what to race throughout the year.
If I were a cat 4, here would be my season:
Bear mtn
Battenkill
Fitchburg
GMST
Pick some worse races please.
town is kind of a dump, tt and cr races roads sucked, kind of cool rr course – what is the attraction to this race?
whats the attraction to any of the races touted on this site? No one knows, surely its not for the quality of the race or its importance. Lets go spend an assload of money on a bad race, and then talk about how I sucked it up. You guys are whores, you’ll ride anything.
is 4th fu@king place! if you place, the results should be posted correctly. to the idiot that says “you take this way too seriously”- that’s BS! everyone on here takes this “way too seriously”- that’s why you and everyone else are reading the comments section of this website. if no one cared about the results, we’d all just ride the gimbel’s “race” and make up a result.
Gimbles has results? is there a national ranking for that? Is Sarah Chubb ranked?
Trimble got his 4th place just not the 4th place prize money. He got the 5th place prize money. Wonder what the difference in payout was. 30 starters give or take. So 4th vs 5th was like maybe $5bones. So Trimble got his upgrade points and is crying over maybe $5-$20. Give me a break. So lame its funny.
Funny, didn’t see Cubb racing Iron hill….she should be, as its a USA Crit series race, and shes a super star.
Looks like the locals really faded after the TT. No real results for anyone. Juniors to Pros – NYC/metro area racers = bad.
fitchburg was a buttload of fun- the race was really well done, and the courses were dynamic and fun (painful)- CRCA had a good showing as well-
Prensky 6th on GC after just upgrading. People talked about Jordan Sagolowski being the next big thing. I think Prensky is the next big racer. He will be a 2 if he wants by next spring the latest. Great job!
hi, i got 8th in the GC for cat 4 if that means anything to you
Great Job!
I see they put the 3s with the 1s and 2s. DNS due to injury but really wanted to try out the new course.
Anyone out there race it?
I raced Schooleys. With the exception of the older lady who was not vocal enough about taking the hard right turn so both the pace car and the field went straight for about 100 yards the race ws EXTREMELY well organised. Pleasant and encouraging police officers at every major intersection holding off traffic, pleasant and enthusiastic officials. The course was terrific having a cool winding descent which by the 3rd lap you were comfortable enough with and a tough uphill with a couple of nasty sections and 1.5 miles in total as it had a few flat sections in it. The race deserves full fields. For the record I sucked in the race so am not writing with rose tinted spectacles!
poor choirce of weekends, and questionable people running it…but as pfar ast eh course is concerned it was fantastic
iron hill?
Worst organized event ever. People organizing were a**holes. A team mate of mine wasn’t included in the results because the staff was incompetent. HOrrible, horrible experience, DO NOT SUPPORT THIS RACE EVER!
Cheyne Hoag of Sakonnet won the 2’s — he’s 19 as of March.
Keep up with all the negative shit guys that is the way to ensure we keep getting people organising races for us. WTF. Totally pathetic. What was your teamate like 30th or whatever in the Cat 4 so you diss the race, of course anonymously. You total wanker.
Impressive result indeed.
Great course – that is not up for argument.
The guy who was running it…I actually give him some credit, he winged it…made the best of the situation, which included a lot of bitchy cat 4 riders…and there were cops on every corner, we went wrong way for 100 yards 1st lap, no big deal….if your friend went up to the finish line they would have worked on placing him.
Bottomline – great course…clip in and ride hard.
Pretty good course. First time venue, so nobody really “knew” the course unless you live locally. Big, snakey downhill on some narrow, bumpy, patch-ridden backwoods road and a 2 mile twisty climb, with some sections reaching a decent % grade. Rolling stuff in between. Made for a real race of attrition this go-around. Worth checking out again next year.
Schooley’s. It seems that some of these new races (Schooley’s and Whiteface) were/are victims of bad scheduling. Both went up againt Stage races. Whiteface was an amazing course and very well run but the locals all did the GIro of NJ. Next year Whiteface will be a 2 day event to get people up there for the weekend and worth the drive. Schooley’s was in July going against racers who are buring out and not into racing/injuries and Fitch. I love that there are more and more races but if the market is saturated then we get low quality turnout. I am not sure what is better/worse.
Cat 1,2,3
PLACE TIME RIDER TEAM ST
1 2:50:22 Edwin Bull Van Dessel Factory team NJ
2 2:50:22 Bryan Borgia CRCA / Proasshit.dk CT
3 2:50:23 Maurice Gamanho CRC of A/Pete’s Bike shop NJ
4 2:55:55 Aaron Wolfe CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
5 2:56:19 Reed Albergotti Jonathan Adler Racing NY
6 2:56:21 Chris Chapman Westwood Velo NJ
7 3:01:17 Marc Adam Champion Systems NY
8 3:01:36 Brian Lariviere Team Bulldog/Campmor NJ
9 3:01:44 julian hunter Team Bulldog/Campmor NJ
10 3:02:02 Sean Groenewald Century Road Club Association NJ
11 3:02:05 Javier Mereles Cycle Craft NJ
12 3:08:08 Scott Hodder CRCA/DKNY-Signature Cycles NJ
13 3:15:23 Jamie Troy Liberty Cycle NJ
14 3:22:11 Greg Johnson Philadelphia Ciclismo PA
Cat 4
PLACE TIME RIDER TEAM ST
1 2:03:13 patrick campbell Westwood Velo/Trade Manage Capital NJ
2 2:03:36 Gregory Leach American University NJ
3 2:04:04 Louis Donato GS Park Ridge/Cyclesport NY
4 2:04:50 Jordan Strober Century Road Club Association NY
4 2:08:06 Dave Trimble Kissenq NY
5 2:08:14 S. Charles Zamastil Quaker City Wheelmen PA
6 2:08:17 Andy Keesler CRC of A/Pete’s Bike/ Bridgewater Marble & Granite NJ
7 2:08:21 Keith Licata Team Bulldog NJ
8 2:08:22 David Junius Westwood Velo NJ
9 2:10:32 Ross Marklein Quaker City Wheelmen PA
10 2:10:40 Dan Larino CRCofA/Petes Bike/Bridgewater Marble & Granite NJ
11 2:10:46 Shusaku Shiroyama GS Gotham/Toga Bikes NY
12 2:10:48 Ben Hughes CRCA/Merrill Lynch-Hincapie Sports NY
13 2:11:26 Kansas Waugh Jonathan Adler Racing NY
14 2:11:28 Rich Patterson Team Norwood Agency / The Peddler NJ
15 2:12:20 Ryan Phelan Fitness Mission/Allwood Bicycles NJ
16 2:12:39 Robin Kinney Big Wheel Sunrise NJ
17 2:12:42 Chris Mooney none NJ
18 2:12:52 benjamin tyszka CRCA/NYVelocity NY
19 2:13:43 george vlahogiannis TEAM FITNESS MISSION/ALLWOOD BICYCLES NJ
20 2:14:09 gino scotto CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
21 2:14:39 Bill Moss CRCA/SouthAfrica.net NY
22 2:14:43 Nicholas Chivily GS ParkRidge/Cyclesport NJ
23 2:14:46 julian natisin cycle funattic PA
24 2:15:23 Robert Rallo Rocket Racing NJ
25 2:15:38 Klaus Satzke Rocket Racing NJ
26 2:18:24 Richard Bravo PROASSHIT.dk NY
27 2:18:49 Jerry Ascolese Team Norwood Agency – The Peddler NJ
28 2:18:57 Ralph Smith Team Norwood Agency-The Peddler
Keep up with all the negative shit guys that is the way to ensure we keep getting people organising races for us. WTF. Totally pathetic. What was your teamate like 30th or whatever in the Cat 4 so you diss the race, of course anonymously. You total wanker.
you already wrote that, doosh
Totally understand the frustration with the person not getting scored properly at first, but wouldn’t go as far as to say never support the event again. Not really sure where the confusion happened, as riders were dogging across the line in one’s and two’s, so I cannot imagine there was issue with the camera reading #’s properly, etc. We were all hot and tired at the end, so not an ideal scenario for “negotiation”. I thought the promoter did a decent job. Course markings and marshalling could be refined for next time (which I offered to Ray at the finish as a constructive criticism), but I didn’t volunteer or bring one along, so I really can’t complain, since at least cars were safely stopped by local police.
I vouched for your teammate’s correct placing (which was nowhere near 30th, btw if anyone really needs to know), as it was a well deserved result. Hope the placing gets straightened out. I’d be bummed too.
Let’s not get nuts here. Live to fight another day.
http://www.crca.net/
Give Schmalz his FBF races and he’s happy and couldn’t care less about more important stuff like Fitchburg. I don’t know why you keep this site going and with your ability to bring out the worst in everyone , I’d wish you didn’t.
Disappointed with Schooley’s late notice start time change. Sent out late on July 4th, and didn’t get it until Sat evening. The only reason I signed up was for the 10:15 start time. I was unable to make the new time and requested a refund. Is that justified?
Did they make the Pro1-3 race 80 miles? If so i am glad I could not race. I was set to race the Cat3 (60miles) but no way I could hang for 80 miles on Hills in that weather Sunday…
CRCA present in every GC category!
http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
If someone paid me to go to Fitchburg, I might care. If you are not satisfied with the way the site is run, please write me a letter and I will refund your subscription fee.
I forgot – bite me!
Yes, promoter should give you a refund. (His discretion though).
Marlton-Evesham crit had outdated times on CCEvesham.net up until yeterday and on Bikereg up until last Wed at least. Promoter gave no-questions-asked cash refund on the spot to anyone who missed their race and asked – didn’t blink an eye.
stop hating. i raced schooleys and loved the course. it had an awesome mix of hills and moderately-technical descents that made me think i was in new england or something. it sure beat riding around in a circle in NYC somewhere.
there were definitely some (a lot) of organizational snafus but i presume (bet) it will be better next year.
As mentioned below, a very nice Fitchburg write-up at http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
Who wrote that up? Nicely done!
Maurice hanging with the cat 1/2’s…solid ride Maurice
great time
rr with hills in NJ = win. big win.
growing pains in a 1st time event = price of admission for new race. support promoters trying to put on good races. (hard to believe that needs to be said.)
locals/volunteers/cops very friendly
was a lot of fun. will definitely return.
Reading about who in a certain club finished 23rd and 34th is very good stuff!
For the 1st time – couldn’t ask for much more, quick results, great course, bathrooms clean, started on time, cops at corners, done and done.
The dude in the lead pace car was nothing but comedy….in the officials outfit, microphone with a bunch of crap hanging off his car….talkng the whole time, telling us the 5th lap, “Here it comes, 200 yards at 19 GRID”…like we didn’t know by that time, but I will say for all his funny comments they did a real nice job keeping cars away as the road was pretty much all to ourselves.
yes … in jersey! any out-of-stater should have full appreciation for that. stop signs, speed limits, HOV lanes, red lights – we take these as polite suggestions, at best
“In Jersey, everything is legal as long as you don’t get caught”
– Bob Dylan
was my favorite. most roads had to abandon them within 6 months. governor pulled the plug on all NJ HOV lanes in ’99.
when HOVers had to change lanes to exit the highway, other drivers would link up bumper-to-bumper and collude to not let them back in. forcing the HOV lane to come to a complete stop and negate any benefit.
comedy. pure comedy.
Anyone know what happened there?
consider plugging “iron hill” into google…good luck
Just something on the pdf file results. You should probably right click on the link and do a “save as” operation. Then look at the saved pdfs with a pdf viewer like Foxit Reader or Acrobat. This instead of having a browser plug-in handle the files. Some are large – in terms of pages (19, 24, 36, 57 and 101 pages) – and this is probably a problem for browsers but shouldn’t be for a standard pdf viewer.
“http://www.crca.net/2008/07/crca-impacts-fitchburg/
Who wrote that up?”
Clue: at the top, near “By…”
hekman of toshiba won
by-line wasn’t there originially.
good flame though, sherlock.
I think Guttenplan was 2nd
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807070330
no floyd tomorrow night?
… it’s on the schedule, just didn’t see the pre reg on bikereg.com
theres always floyd.
42 guys finished iron hill, with around 125 starting. Lets just leave it at that.
Don’t hate on Schooley’s. That was an awesome course, and hopefully it will get a full field next time.I raced it with no expectations and it was a very pleasant surprise. The promoter had to wing it a bit because of low turnout, but he was a good guy and did well under circumstances. Yes, the pace car missed a turn, but the same thing happened at Sturbridge in Cat 3/4. Everything turned out alright in the end.
thanks for posting the schooley’s article. the press loves the crashes. it always amuses me how non-cyclists think a crash is a comeuppance for our wild and crazy lifestyle. “that’s what you get for showing off on your bike.”
and finishing times … they love them some finishing times.
http://velonews.com/article/73463/fresh-korn-blatent-generalities
I saw a guy on the hill snapping photos… any idea where they can be found?
tomorrow night is double points. should be fast
mmmmmmm
double points
Schooley’s had a beautiful and difficult course with one of the most toughest climbs of the year. Unfortunately the experience was dampened by rude and incompetent officials. I understand that they are doing a service putting on these races but I expected to at the very least have my results scored fairly (they aren’t doing this out of the kindness of their hearts at $45 a head)
The confusion was caused as soon as the cat 4 results were posted. I finished fourth yet my name was missing from finishing list. I confronted the officials and after several minutes of hard convincing they finally realized that I had in fact finished fourth (well over a minute ahead of fifth who dropped his chain on the final climb).
The race official took a pen and hand wrote my name on the results next to the fourth place slot.
So anyways no big deal, problem solved I thought. I took twenty minutes to load the car and go collect my price money.
The guy handing out prize money looks at my hand written name on the results and decides that it’s fifth place (apparently the fourth place check was already handed out to the fifth place finisher). I argue with him for a few minutes and he repeatable tries to give me the fifth place check. Finally I get the original official involved who reinstated my result initially.
The original official isn’t helpful and refuses to accept that my fourth place placing even though I had just previously clarified it with him (he claimed it was past the 15 minute protest period so I couldn’t do anything about it). After that we argued pointlessly for a few minutes and I finally left without my prize money and with serious doubts about my placing.
The results posted here show that I’m tied for fourth (although my time is listed wrong and behind the fifth place finisher)?? Not sure what’s going on with that but at this point don’t care as long as I get my upgrade points. The prize money would be nice to help cover the entry cost but I’m not expecting them to mail it to me. I
Most guys never see the top 5. You do on a regular basis. So you did not get the $25 bucks in prize money. Big deal. Be happy knowing you raced hard on a good course and had a top 5 or 4. Whats the difference. The racers know you were 4th. The placing on Bike Reg means nothing. Your biggest mistake was even caring enough to argue over 4th or 5th place.
i can’t even comprehend that comment.
b/c you are an idiot and take this shit way too serious…
It took that long today to get a hate comment, I think this is a record.
as a matter of principal, a rider should have a good result recorded properly. If the payout is advertised at a certain rate, a rider should be paid out accordingly. end of story. as for giving someone shit for ‘taking this too seriously,’ get real. if you don’t take yourself seriously, that’s not our problem. just don’t give somebody crap for having a different philosophy about racing. personally, i don’t see the point in doing something without the intention to perform as well as possible.
is it happening this year? am i asking too early. can’t find it listed in the obvious spots.
watch out for Dave Trimble! he’s coming for his 4th place check! no one swindles Trimble.
not asking late, just not happening
I’m told it’ll be back for 2009.
the race was completely fucked up, why you bothered to show up, is beyond me. Just don’t go next time.
for a ‘fitchburg-centric’ hangover, there sure is very little discussion of the race. a lot of NYC guys (and gals) must have stayed home.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38654427@N00/?saved=1
Coupe des Ameriques was this weekend in Canada. Good local showing by Doug Oneil, Roger Freidman, Ted Neu, Caryl Gale and me. Solid results with Doug 3rd on GC. Solid TTs by all of us, too. Really fun race though they completely botched the results for many of the stages, particularly the TT.
every year i want to race park ridge and every year it’s the same weekend as unionvale or some out of town race i normally do (fitchburg?). so i skip all those this year and they cancel it. i suck!
I read he had a bad crash early this year w/ 100 stitches. Anyone know which race? Glad to see he’s back. He’s got real talent.
Can we get some Fitchburg color here?
Biggest race in the NE and I have to read about some F’ed up race in NJ where everyone is bitching and a race in PA that no locals did.
Sunday, July 6, 2008
Wishing a speedy recovery to Sal Abbruzzese
http://www.targetraining.com/2008/07/wishing-speed-recovery-to-sal.html
Lattanzi too with a strong TT and GC. Sounds like Tony may have been podium for TT if timed right.
TS wrote:
“Coupe des Ameriques was this weekend in Canada. Good local showing by Doug Oneil, Roger Freidman, Ted Neu, Caryl Gale and me…”
Sal is a great guy and great racer. Gimbels is bad news. Last year the guy from Toga almost died. This year Sal goes down hard and another regular Gimbels rider was hurt bad in May. Bad roads, mixed fitness, cars, running reds and stop signs, and too many riders = big risk and lots of danger. For a ride that offers little in terms of challenging terrain its not worth the head ache these days.
Best wishes to Sal and a speed recovery.
well what else did you want to discuss
toto! i want to discuss toto!
Anyone have the course for Computrainer? Sounds safer…
Nothing like 75 riders of all fitness levels snaking through narrow roads, and attacking up the left into oncomming cars on blind turns. Then attacking through reds, Stop signs all to win the Gimbels sprint. You think that guy Hammean is bad in PP. Watch him in the gimbels. The best part is that the workout is totally lame. First 60 minutes they ride up Central Ave at 12mph (100watts). Then for 30-60 minutes (depending on group) you ride somewhat hard. Average power is about 135 watts /200Norm at the front. Lame ride on many levels. Only good to catch up with friends.
Gives cyclists a terrible rep in the WC area. Granted the a-holes in Range Rovers need to be more relaxed when driving behind cyclists but the fact is the group breaks every traffic rule during the ride. Running reds and stop signs. Going up around cars on both sides at full speed. 4 abreast. Every other weekend the cops pull over the ride. Total chaos representing everything you should not do on a group ride. Most of the participants do not race so this is there race every week. Taking stupid risks.
Not the first time he has roughed up someone on the podium. Remember him pushing Prince Charles off stage when Tour was in London. Prince was said to be “quite chuffed” to get this treatment from the Badger, as he should.
Greg Olsen took 2nd in the TT and 8th overall in GC
Fitchburg schimtzberg, there’s a floyd race tonight dammit!
Its possible that guys didnt bother riding the cat 3 tour de france up in fitchburg, as there was other racing to be had, for much much less out of pocket.
it sure sounds like some very satisfied racers who opted for non-fitchburg options!
Never done Green Mountain. How is the race overall? Town is great I am sure.
Hey Jordan Strober didn’t you get dropped from the lead pack??? how are listed tied for fourth? or did you get a time bonus for that post race crash? nice job
trimble impostor
i like the racing better at GMSR. I didn’t love the town the year i was there. drivers were surly, there was a lot of construction. but i like stage 1 a lot and the downtown crit is better than at fitchburg.
Is he that much of a Fuckard? I hope he is not calling out the CRCA Juniors Mafia…
gmsr is the best race all year. way more fun than fitchburg. this year it’s a time trial first stage instead of the hill climb prologue, though. and they’re scoring on time, not points.
schooley’s wasnt the only race. you guys are so single minded when it comes to what to race throughout the year.
If I were a cat 4, here would be my season:
Bear mtn
Battenkill
Fitchburg
GMST
Pick some worse races please.
town is kind of a dump, tt and cr races roads sucked, kind of cool rr course – what is the attraction to this race?
whats the attraction to any of the races touted on this site? No one knows, surely its not for the quality of the race or its importance. Lets go spend an assload of money on a bad race, and then talk about how I sucked it up. You guys are whores, you’ll ride anything.
is 4th fu@king place! if you place, the results should be posted correctly. to the idiot that says “you take this way too seriously”- that’s BS! everyone on here takes this “way too seriously”- that’s why you and everyone else are reading the comments section of this website. if no one cared about the results, we’d all just ride the gimbel’s “race” and make up a result.
Gimbles has results? is there a national ranking for that? Is Sarah Chubb ranked?
Trimble got his 4th place just not the 4th place prize money. He got the 5th place prize money. Wonder what the difference in payout was. 30 starters give or take. So 4th vs 5th was like maybe $5bones. So Trimble got his upgrade points and is crying over maybe $5-$20. Give me a break. So lame its funny.
Funny, didn’t see Cubb racing Iron hill….she should be, as its a USA Crit series race, and shes a super star.
I, too, heard the Park Ridge race will be back next year. In the meantime, that sponsor, and two others, puts on a weekly Thursday night crit series at Rockleigh, NJ for those of you who can’t get enough of the Garden State.
fitchburg is a nasty old bitch, and this sport is all about tradition and suffering. that’s why you should care about it.
was it mocking david “il quattro” trimble? we were just kidding around. we’ll take it all back, if you just deliver toto. promise. please, it’s 1:12 already, how long do you plan to keep toto hostage? do you have him shackled, gimplike, in your basement? are you knitting him a tina fey bodysuit?
Much easier to sell a weekend in Burlington….vs. Fitshchburg.
And it is a better race.
Done and Done…I always find it interesting that everyone gets all fired up, blows their load and fitchburg, and then teh season is over….very cat 3/4 of all of you. 1/2’s…it is a year round process, you race when you can, get some good results, some bad…but there is no….FITCHBURG…AHHHHH…..SPUGE….who did what, where was Adler, can I upgrade to 3, do I have the points, I dropped a chain, oh wow CRCA did great, blah, blah, blah
Cross Baby!!!!!!!!!!
fitchburg is a stage race. there aren’t many of them. that’s why people get fired up and try to get some good results. not that difficult to understand. there has been minimal discussion here on the actual races so i don’t even see what you are bitching about. maybe you are still bitter from peaking in the porta potties at bear mountain.
Finished 9th but they paid me out for 10th. I want my $2 dollars…
Actually there are plenty of stage races around, the problem is you all suck and aren’t invited.
Very selective. I hear you have to be 200lbs and ride a bike costing at least $12k.
If you’re saying Fitchburg is a waste of time, chances are, you didn’t race bear mountain either….
I peaked inside your downtube.
dammit! you just stole the thunder from a skit i was writing involving andy, toto, some pork rinds, a tina fey blow-up doll and our good friend “quattro” running around asking for his two dollars and 1 upgrade point
where there even 50 guys at that race to warrant a single upgrade point from cat 7 to cat 6?
Come on – let’s open up the discussion.
They all suck. Discussion closed.
Or would you like to discuss which sucks the most?
it’s true that someone went through a rear window on gimbels last year, but it was his fault because his head was down and he didn’t see it. sal had maybe the worst accident i’ve ever seen someone survive, and it too, was his fault. accidents happen, even though it would be nice to blame it on someone or something else, that is the nature of the beast. gimbles will be here long after your ass falls below the back of your knees- it is an institution, so give it propa respek. boo lac ah shah.
you’re right. There will always be douchbag riders, and there will always be douchbag rides.
me molesting a handcuffed toto dressed in a tina fey bodysuit? made of what? the hair of my serial killing victims?
I’m just on vacation, that’s all
I’m also unclear where the pork rinds come in.
Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
July 8, 2008
Brooklyn NY
Pro / 1-2-3
46 starters
1. Euris Rafael (Caico)
2. Paul Burrowes (WS United)
3. Robert Wing (Sommerville Sports)
4. Alejandro Guzman (CRCA/Foundation)
5. Juan Almonte (Unatt)
6. Kyle Peepo (CRCA)
Category 3-4
68 starters
1. Scott Willingham (CRCA/Metro-Sanchez)
2. James Buttler (Unatt)
3. James Joseph (WS United)
4. Neil Bezdek (Unatt)
5. Lesnek Sniadowski (Unatt)
6. Chris Castaldi (Unatt)
Category 5
19 starters
1. Stefan Kusurleis (Cadence)
2. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
3. Daniel Perez (Chelsea Bicycles)
4. Jason Schmitt (Unatt)
5. Jamaul Nichols (Kissena)
6. Eric Voss (Unatt)
Thanks to all the marshals, pacers, officials and Cadence Cycling for supporting our races.
Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club
where does one find fitchburg photos for the cat 2 field
HH – Agree with you. The a-hole wannabe racers who love to take stupid risks will continue to do gimbels and the ride will never die. Unfortunately, it will continue to give cyclists a bad name in the WC area. BTW – most crashes are the riders fault. Gimbels is not dangerous if you take away all the assholes who cause the risk and crashes. Its not the ride its who participates and how.
If they shut that ride down for good I could care less.
How about we shut the conversation down about it?
I would like to clarify a couple things regarding a somewhat of the negative altitude on the Gimbels ride. Just like in any RR you have stronger and weaker riders in the same level field. When you have this you sometimes have fatigue riders which can lead to crashes or miss judging their lines. I can say I been doing the Gimbels ride for over 25 years and never even come close to having an accident, except one time when it was completely and utterly my own fault, hitting a ripple in the road while taking a drink.
If you follow and obey all the traffic laws you will come out in one piece. Riders that are having crashes are generally the same ones you see in all the races. They are looking back (not forward) or not observing the road conditions and just simply riding very aggressivly. If you stay alert and ride strong and leave some breathing room you should never have an incident.
If you really think about, it’s the same things that happen all the time in RR.
Great, so Will S has confirmed in great detail that 1) Gimbels isnt actually cursed in any way, and 2) crashes happen because of riders not because of the race. Genius!
but it isn’t an “RR,” it’s just a group ride. people may ride it like it’s a road race, but when there are no marshals stopping traffic or warning pedestrians, then “the same things that happen all the time” in a road race become MUCH MUCH more dangerous and irresponsible. i have nothing against a big group ride, and gimbels can be a lot of fun, but riding it like it’s a race is asking for trouble.
If you attack up the road into oncoming traffic in a RR you get a warning or likely a DQ from the official. On the Gimbels ride, this behavior is the norm. Crashes happen to everyone from the Pros to the newbies. However, when you add a race type mentality to a group ride of 100-200 riders with varying degrees of fitness, with no rules, no marshalls and bad roads, you get at times very dangerous conditions. Sal is a great rider and I do not know the details of his crash. I do know based on riding the Long and Regular ride once a month on average that the riding and pure carelessness and disrespect for pedestrians, traffic laws and cars would never fly in a real rr. If this happened in a rr the racers would be DQed and the race would be shut down by the town after 1 year. Gimbels has lots of history but the older riders need to start doing some of there own marshalling. The Anti cylcing community in WC will just view Sal’s crash as another bad episode in the Gimbels saga…
MAYBE you guys should just go and actually race instead of doing the Gimbles garbage.
Sal get hit by a car crossing an intersection or what?
do the triangle ride instead, less cars
Ride your trainer, no cars.
i fully support summer indoor trainer riding
instead of racing i just do computrainer sessions, less crashes
sounds like a Cadence wanker. Enjoy spending money for something that you can do for free in CP.
uhh…irony meter not working?
irony is so 90’s
You are correct it isn’t an “RR,” as we all ready know! it’s just a group ride but people ride it like it’s a road race, that’s what’s unique about this ride that has this “race element” of training to it. The Rocket Ride has the same effect as well. If your riding hard in a break you can bet they will be chasing! Sound like what you maybe looking for is the “club ride” which is more of a structured type of ride?
I guess what’s in question here is how safely this can be done without marshals etc…but I can say this it is more then a group ride and that’s what brings and keeps the excitement of 60+years of Gimbels growing bigger every year.
just some thoughts
PS-I need to go register for Mengoni before it sells out….lol
One more thought, I have broken my left collar bone on a training ride coming back from NJ when I was hit by a truck that wentthrough a red light!
I broke my right collar bone when I fell off a drop off mountain biking in the rockies. I ran into a back of a parked van@ 20mph coming home from a training ride, but never crashed in the last 15 years of racing P123 or on the Gimbels ride…(lol)
So my point is crashes happen anywhere, we are a WE ARE A statistic! ride your bike safe
Thanks,
ciao
how many races approximately, in 15 years did you do w/out a crash? that must be a record of sorts. wait a minute- what percentage of those did you finish?
is the freakin man! His win streak on Gimebels is 3 straight years or 150 rides/races…
andy, who said anything about your serial killing victims? really, get your mind out of the gutter. what a horrible thought. we all know you use them to make those delicious bo ssam
but seriously, apologies. i guess i flipped out a little bit on tuesday with no toto and all. i just look forward to seeing him every tuesday. i know you guys need a vacation, too, and me clicking 10,000 links only nets you 10c. these are trying times though. schmalz is winning races, wearing the yellow jersey at floyd … its all very confusing to me. makes my head hurt. nothing seems to make sense anymore. so, when i didn’t see toto in the am, i got a little nervous i guess, and by 1:12, well, i was downright panicked, and assumed the worst. i hope i didn’t disrupt your time off too much. anyway, im glad you and toto are finally getting a well-deserved break and are having a restful, a pork-filled vacation together. see you next tuesday i hope.
Perhaps there should be a limit to the length of posts…..
Perhaps there should be a limit to the number of dots in an ellipsis …
yes……there should be…..Would that be consecutive or total?
only a jackass would compare dots to a 5000-word post.
only a bigger jackass would miss the sarcasm of the ellipsis post
and it should be consecutive, not total, or else we’d never hear from our good friend BG dubs (bikesgonewild)
and only the biggest jackass would assume that any of these posts aren’t sarcastic…..
and only the most bigger-est jackass would then still put too many dots in the ellipsis …
huh……….
..-. ..- -.-. -.- / -.– — ..- / . .-.. .-.. .. .–. … .. … / … .- -. -.. -… .- –. –. . .-.
If you ride the gimbels like a race…ie chasing breaks through intersections and stop signs, not only going over the double line but out onto the same directional roadway without looking for traffic behind, or more importantly looking out for potholes – you may end up in a hospital.
If you ride within yourself sensibly, obey the traffic signage and lights, keep it single or double pace group when allowable, and look out for suspect bike handlers, the ride is quite enjoyable and offers a great workout.
I’m not sure of the details of Sal’s accident and i hope he gets well and rides next season. I’m curious about the circumstances that led to his situation though. It would seem that a seasoned rider like himself would know the ropes on doing rides like the gimbels. There must’ve been a huge unforeseen variable that occurred. was there a car involved?
May I retort by stating unequivocally.. my cat’s breath tastes like cat food.
LOL
Ive never seen him stick his nose out in the wind till he sprints around all the guys who pulled at the end to claim his big victory, bad enough in a race but this is a training ride hardly a positive rider
I saw Sal go down, no one else was involved, no cars or other cyclist contributed to his falling. it was just a pothole that he didn’t anticipate and he hit it as he was turning slightly to get back in the line. The accident became catastrophic when which shook his bottle loose and it fell under his back wheel launching him from his bike and making what may have been a more routine crash into a horrible accident. It could have happened to any of us.
People would like to know that there was a variable that made it exceptional or especially to learn that it happened to an unskilled or newer rider but neither case is true. It was quite random and just a scary reminder of how dangerous our sport can be.
Personally i can’t shake the accident and I think about it and wish him well every day since it happened.
wow…..that does sound very horrific. There should be a waterbottle on the market that is of a collapseable like material for situations just as you described. Waterbottles shouldnt be able to launch riders in the air like that.
I’ve seen front wheel wipeouts of the same nature. Very scary – even to see!