Bike races!
Schmalz is still in deepest darkest Iowa, here’s a very incomplete hangover.
Judging by Victor’s photos, Godfrey Pollydore won the 123, Gary Steinberg took the Masters, and an L Raphael rider won the 4’s.
All I know about Toona is that Phil Penman won the cat 3 crit. Fill in if you know more.
Eneas Freyre wins Pawling 123, Andrea Myers wins Women’s 123 with Ann Marie Miller 2nd, Dylan Lowe wins the 3/4.
Six more GC contenders crashed out of the Tour overnight.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43781389/ns/us_news-life/
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bik/2498456939.html
Here are some highlights from the cat 4 field today, Lou Maltese Memorial Race. I will upload more highlights from all the fields throughout the day.
http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/Cyclings/Lou-Maltese-Memorial-Race/Cat-4/18087957_PDqQmX#1387448028_tZKbzRG
Ouch. Victory Salute for 2nd?
Anyone have the time and avg spd for today’s Cat 4 field in the Maltese?
fast
Average for first group to finish was 26 miles an hour. B field had already a faster race this year. 3 laps under 14 min (13.24 fastest), and three laps just above 14 min.
Full results will be available at http://www.fastalracing.com/ in teh future. In the meantime, summary results at http://www.crca.net
Have more highlights up on all the fields.
http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/Cyclings/Lou-Maltese-Memorial-Race
any update on the crash? everyone ok?
….Victor any snapshots? Thanks.
I hope all the guys are ok.
broken elbow in the w field, broken collarbone in the m4 field. but as with most things on nyvelocity.com that’s all second hand and may or may not be correct.
123 field – 29mph avg. no crashes even though someone smacked straight into a signpost near the met, started skidding all over the place you could smell burning tire but he didn’t go down.
In W field a confirmed broken elbow, and one with bumps/bruises/road rash but thankfully nothing major. It was scary out there today.
They are all up, except the 5s. The 5s should be ready by tomorrow.
http://oneimagingphotography.smugmug.com/Cyclings/Al-Toefield-Memorial-Road-Race
I was marshaling today. Olsen was at least a minute behind the field on the first lap. What happened?
Was the ex-girlfriend in question the super hot Caroline G.?
The d’bag who crashed into the sign should be suspended, there is no way this would be possible without a joggers lane violation. This type of riding endangers the safety of other riders and has potential to compromise park racing in general. Off with his head!
there is a right side of the road to…
Sounds like he won the pole position.
Another crash cause by the DJ riders, this one could be worse at 32 mph. If you dont fit, dont go thru, didnt he teach you that?
no freakin’ way the average speed was that high. we must have been noodling along at 20mph for at least half of it with all the negative racing and brake checking every bottle-neck. totally boring race.
He stopped to give an interview and sign some autographs.
Based on Alan’s times for the winner and the official Central Park measurement for the loop of 6.0273 miles:
123 – 27.37 mph / 44.05 kph
4 – 26.03 mph / 41.89 kph
5 – 24.04 mph / 38.69 kph
W – 23.43 mph / 37.71 kph
Of course, for all you physicists out there, you realize that as one approaches the speed of light, time slows down, which may be why the 123 race felt “boring” to the poster below. Its all relative.
He was giving the field a “Head Start”
So BB30 why are we assuming it was caused by the dj rider? were you there? Care to give us some color on what you saw to justify that statement or are we going to blatantly assume it was DJ rider fault just bc he was in it…unless you were right behind when it happened as the whole field was strung out you are making a baseless statement or are going on hearsay
Jordan riders – i heard many many complaints about a Jordan rider that was riding like an asshole. I didnt see it but when thats all you hear from the cat4 riders you must believe a little.
some of the DJ riders ride like they watch too many Cav head butting videos, only without the skilz
was caused by … racing. it happens. get over it.
according to Alan Atwood’s official time the 123 race was 45 miles….45/7=6.42. that’s where the 29mph figure comes from. I always thought CP was exactly 10K (6.2 mi)
According to NYRR its 6.02 and change. If you assume that most of the race is outside the rec lane, then maybe that adds a little more distance – so maybe its 6.1. I think Alan’s distance is wrong – 7 laps is less than 43 miles no matter how you count it.
http://www.nyrr.org/resources/training/central_park.asp
Cosimo: it’s not just racing, its the fact that there are a few people racing that simply dont have the skills to be racing. They join a team and pay money so they think they can but they cant.
unless the race finishes somewhere other than cats paw, a 7 lap race is 42.7 miles.
The DJ rider pushed the Breakaway rider to the left and that caused a chain reaction. it is not the fist time the do something idiotic at a race. not all of them but the mayority are lack of bike handling skills.
crashes happen, certainly nothing ill intended, unless you are Marmo or Foundation…
I think that training teams such as NYVC, Jordan, Asphalt, Sids, Furio and others have helped new racers develop serious raw power and race effort strength using structured power training, proven techniques and race simulations more quickly than riders typically acquired these abilities in the past. The advent of these teams means that there are a lot more new racers with strong firepower in the B / 4 race. While there always have been sketchy riders in these fields, they often did not have the “confidence” I see in the newer racers today, even if they had the power to keep up or win. I think that being on a “sub-team” and knowing that they are “strong” leads them some of these newer riders to race aggressively. It reminds me of those stories where some guy gives his kid a sub-machine gun to try, or some guy who buys a Porsche Turbo and has no idea how to drive it the results can be ugly, or even disastrous.
I am aware the these teams provide extensive skills sessions and race riding simulations, but as we all know, there’s nothing like the real thing. I remember that coaches used to ride in or behind the B/4 field to “coach” newer races on race strategy, moving within the field and race etiquette via a “summary report” at the end. I suggest that the coaches for these teams consider this – maybe even anointing one coach to provide this guidance to all of their teams per race, particularly early in the year or upon the advent of large numbers of upgrades, such has been the case in June/July.
Oh, and crashes happen. I’ve seen plenty of guys – myself included, who have raced for awhile get tired and make unsafe moves…know the wheel you’re next to or behind – even if its a skilled rider – he may be wasted and no longer a safe wheel to be near.
obviously you were not there or or you are repeating incorrect info – the DJ rider was on the left and the breakaway rider was on the right….no one was on the DJ rider left side they were 2×2 there and the injuries sustained to the dj rider were on his LEFT side – seems a little illogical to say the dj rider pushed the breakaway guy to the left dont ya think….
Quentin Tarmac is a gossip queen. Spews gossip before checking the facts…
If there is a video of Blake assaulting another racer, I hope the CRCA board handles it appropriately, i.e. the same or more severe as was handed out to that Setanta kid who threw his bike. Intentionally elbowing another rider and then causing a crash strikes me as much worse than throwing a bike.
Quit with the hearsay and post the video. Otherwise its just more rumors.
post the video so we can anonymously bash him!
http://www.crca.net/2011/07/lou-maltese-form-guide/
This is hilarious
Last month twice to NYVelocity riders caused a crash in the cat4 field. Both times just before the finish. It’s sad that they crash. Not only because one of the guys in PP had a serious amount of blood on his face, but also for the riders that crashed into the crash. The other crash was in last CP CRCA club race. Same thing two NYVelocity riders crashing into each, this time going up Cats Paw. Wonder what will happen next Sunday with 100 people that signed up for Lau Maltese including 13(!) NYVelocity riders…
if there is a video we will see who caused the NYVelocity rider to crash, no?
in PP, a member of a different team (will remain nameless) hooked his his handlebars on the nyvc rider’s bars. the nyvc rider was riding straight and leading out a teammate and the teammate crashed into him after he went down. in CP, a foundation rider elbowed the nyvc rider on the way up cat’s paw as the rider was falling back (see below) causing the nyvc rider to go down. neither of these incidents was caused by two nyvc riders crashing into each other, so get your story straight. if someone has the video, def post it.
Thanks Ryan.
Foundation to Wu-Tang Clan
Inson as RZA?
Foundation seems more West Coast.
http://www.usacycling.org/results/?permit=2011-2085
http://drunkcyclist.com/2011/07/10/johnny-hoogerland-is-a-hero/
Some strong results from NYC/metro racers. One of the best events in the country. The only race where you can do warm up rides with the top guys in the world (including Hermida the current worldchamp) and then race the same course with a real deal start finish, podium and announcer. Plus, it was one of the hardest and most fun races (long tough climbs, fly overs, tunnels, muddy wet rocks and roots, and DHers flying over head) I have done in years. If it is back next year, go even if you dont race XC.
http://www.usacycling.org/results/?permit=2011-1986
(nice to see these and Pawling up so fast)
Chase Goldstein won the 4s in Prospect Park this weekend. He then went on to Pawling the next day and placed 4th in the 3/4 field – 1st 4 rider.
http://www.usacycling.org/results/?permit=2011-2085
Pawling was a great race, great course, and only 90 mins from NYC! Interestingly, the Cat 4’s over 35 race was faster than Cat 4 under 35 race. Since when do old guys go faster than young ‘uns?!?!?
Any details on the punches thrown after the race?
Foundation rider (with number on wrong side) hides in woods and jumps into the 123 field on Saturday in prospect on the 2nd lap.
It seems like these guys are working hard to keep up their stellar reputation. Too bad he didn’t have syringes hanging out of his back pocket.
results service by far the best so far, they were emailed to every rider within an hour of race completed and posted on usa cycling the same day.
Other than a couple of fields riding the wrong way on course it was by far the best organised race i have been too, multiple police cars, wheel van and motor bikes for each field.
Very impressed
http://www.bikereg.com/Results/2011/07/10-New-Britain-Criterium.asp
Some great results for the NYC boys up in CT…
Pro-1-2:
1) Euris Rafael – Foundation
3) Jermaine Burrowes – We Stand United
CAT 3:
2) Juan Pimentel – CRCA
CAT 4:
1) Daghan Perker – Asphalt Green
4) Thomas Mikolinski – Teany
http://www.bikereg.com/Results/2011/07/10-New-Britain-Criterium.asp
I was at the race. Apparently a Foundation rider won a prime, but was dq’d for the prime because he received a hand sling from a team mate. That may be OK during a madison on the track, but not at a local crit. After the race, the manager from the team over reacted when told this by the official. He called the official a racist and sucker punched him in the face. I guess he got arrested. The official is not racist. He is a true supporter of the sport who was doing his job. It was truly bad form from the Founation Mananger.
Who is managing Foundation?
Ric Wolfe?
can somebody please verify that this insane behavior is, in fact, going on? this stuff (apparently from one team) is starting to reach urban legend status…
this is how the world see us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn0FF1KwL4I
“le velo” shows a sense of humor. something we are sorely lacking, apparently.
People dislike you because you’re CHEATERS! Not because you’re Hispanic, or black or whatever. So put the racial/ace card back in your pocket and clean up your act.
Saw a guy from Foundation get a flat tire in Prospect abt 2 years back, got a wheel change and cut across the park and joined back the field like 2 laps later and took the win in the bunch sprint. Think it was once of those Trinidadian riders named Alexander
http://twitter.com/#%21/JDBilodeau
you, sir, are racist.
but this has gone way too far. has the heat got to people’s brains? i hope whoever punched (names excluded to protect the innocent) gets a serious suspension. we cannot accept this sort of thing.
Foundation sucks!
$40
You guys know you can’t believe everything you read right??
I am pretty sure that if someone punched an official then the team or at least the rider would have been DQ’d. Alas, I was not there so I don’t know either way.
But if you know Ric Wolfe, you wouldn’t even suggest that he was the one doing the punching; he is one of the gentlemen of the sport in NYC.
Unfortunately, the same can not be said for some (some) of the team members based on their behavior this year. Foundation needs to think about how they select their riders.
Too funny.
True story, though, Dana White of the UFC has contacted Foundation to create a new full contact sport called USAC Full Contact Racing. Kinda like roller derby meets bike racing meets UFC – pretty cool.
Apparently Vladamir Karpets got wind of this and auditioned in yesterday’s stage of the TdF when he shoulder checked Contador into some spectators, like he was flicking a fly off his shoulder — classic!
we should leave the baseless insinuation out of this. there’s plenty to talk about that doesn’t involve making assumptions about people, especially with no actual evidence. although, if somebody did actually get locked up, its safe to say it really happened. really, though, don’t accuse people of selling “hot gear” if you can’t prove it. those sorts of snipes only undermine legitimate criticism of bad behavior and reinforce their opinion that we are all racist assholes with an ax to grind.
That racism thing cracks me up.
doesn’t mean your not all racist…or something…ah shucks, why won’t we all just let them do whatever they want. rules are for suckers.
This is a repost from July 5th with the addition of #5 below:
I think the CRCA board needs to communicate with the Foundation team to settle things down. Given the following incidents of late, its seems there is a storm brewing that might best be calmed before it gets worse:
1. CRCA disqualification for re-entering A race against the rules and fair warning
2. Quintero drug violation
3. CRCA B race aggressive riding
4. Antonio Munoz – “threats”
5. New Britain arrest for race official “assault”
CLEARLY, this team operates with little regard for the written rules and even less regard for common racing etiquette. As part of CRCA, Foundation’s actions reflect badly on the entire club. It also is beginning to feel like a more serious altercation could arise from the brewing tension.
1. Foundation team was all DQ’d for Gavin action. What more do you want?
2. Quintero was sacked from Foundation and he received a two year suspension from USAC. What more do you want?
3. Aggressive riding from Foundation B team? They are the team that sits on the front, keeps the race together so their sprinters can win. That’s the opposite of aggressive. If I had their sprinters I would do the same.
4. Munoz threats? I don’t even know what that means. Are you scared of his tattoos or something??
5. Race official assault. Whatever it was that happened, only happened yesterday, so were you expecting the CRCA board to have held an emergency meeting because someone posted something on NYVelocity?
Anonymous coward – if you are so concerned, write a letter to the CRCA board requesting action or at least voicing your concerns. I have little doubt that they would take such action seriously. I hope they will not take your anon vendetta seriously.
Did I miss something? Show me exactly where you signed your name to your post? Hypocritical much?
How do you know the CRCA board already has not been contacted about these concerns by more than one club member?
Vendetta?
Paranoid much?
I want all Foundation riders to be forced to race on Huffy’s from Walmart for the rest of the year. However, they can select any color of their choice.
Seriously…not arguing for any punishment or penalty…simply suggesting a conversation between the CRCA board and the team to keep it all chill…
A brief message – hey guys, be cool. That’s all.
During the race Euris and Rafael went for a prime. They were bike lengths ahead of the rest of the field as they approached the line. Euris put his hand on Rafael as gesture saying.. go ahead, it’s yours. He pushed him across the line. There was no slinging. They were clear winners of the prime. They DQ’d both Euris and Rafael for the prime for ‘helping a teammate,’ even though they had clearly won the prime. It was a rough call.
After the race a friend who was translating for the team approached a USA Cycling official about the DQ attempting to contest it. They had words — no one knows exactly what was said. Regardless, no person from Foundation or representing Foundation was violent towards any USA Cycling official.
Sidelines, thanks for the update. Makes much more sense (guys being penalized for technical violations of rules even when they do not endanger other riders) than all the allegations for punching, etc., but a lot less entertaining!
there seem to be many witnesses to the official being punched in the face and multiple people have reported that somebody was arrested. so, the truth seem elusive at this point. i was not there, so just await the whole story. its sad that this is even a discussion at this point.
He people Officials up there have dq people for giving a victory salute. it is against the rules to take you hands off the bars in a sprint, and they enforce it once in a while
What more do you want??? Hahahhaahha dumb asses
Yes, clearing the smoke. It made complete sense that Foundation riders would be punching race officials, getting arrested and then NOT being DQ’d from the race.
It goes to show you the level of shit that gets posted here and too many of you eat up.
the person who was supposedly arrested was not a rider in the race, but a “representative” if that muddies the waters.
Tony’s a strong rider and a great guy. Lets leave the personal attacks out of this.
I was there, and can say with 100% confidence that the official was punched by the translator. That’s not made up.
Munoz be a bad bike racer for realz…. !! He live for this shit he.. he.. he.. you know?!?! Tony has $20,000 in bikes casue he need that to win these big cat 4 pakr races…!? whit no bling bike my manz cand win wit with thez killan sprint.. he he he
Why would Ric Wolfe punch Kyle Wolfe in the face, aren’t they related?
They are all part of the wolf pack for sure . . . .
Nice “Hangover” the movie reference incorporated in the real “Hangover”.
The CRCA Board was sent a video of John Blake causing the crash in the last club B race. He clearly threw an elbow while sprinting thru a hole that probably wasn’t wide enough. Blake certainly has better handling skills than the rider who rec’d the elbow and crumpled, but that doesn’t excuse the intentional contact in the last 100 meters of a race. A Cat 4 race, no less. The 15 minute protest period has expired but that doesn’t mean that the CRCA can’t suspend a rider for dangerous riding when they know it occurred.
If you can’t handle a little contact in a 4 race what are you going to do when Ricky or Prensky start leaning on you when you get to ride with the big boys?
it wasn’t in the last 100m, it was at the base of cat’s paw and it was a met finish. the guy in question was clearly dropping back and not participating in the sprint. blake intentionally elbowed him and actually used his elbow to hook his arm, causing him to lose control. this was also apparently also the third complaint received about blake in this one race, the two other complaints were for extremely similar incidents.
Saturday Pro-1-2-3 Prospect Park Race write up (an expensive day) – The undersigned, accustomed to being in the breakaway missed it this time. (SUCKS). It was an 8-man breakaway (consisting of 1 guy from Northeast, Brian Breach of Mengoni and 6 others – – I don’t know who they were) and they stayed away starting from lap #2. They built a 45 second lead over the field. As Metra / Cycles 54 was not represented in the break group, they drilled the shit out of the front of the main field. As each lap went by, the average speed of the main field increased and the gap to the breakaway group ever so slowly dwindled. So, eventually, it came down to this…it was do or die – a suicide mission – on the last lap as the gap was reduced to a paltry 29 or so seconds. After coming down the hill a desperate solo attempt was made approx a half mile from the finish-line. Dioslaki of Metra tagged on and these seemed to maybe have it…they had a gap on the field that might just do it!! The breakaway group was in sight…as it turned out, too early though for the Dioslaki due as they got gassed before the line and had too little left in the tank to hold out…Gil Gomez hammered past them, caught the remnants of the breakaway group (which was down to only 4 guys) and managed to take the win. Brian Breach of Mengoni got 2nd, a Mengoni guy took 3rd. Reverse to the “field sprintâ€â€¦as Metra’s Dioslaki was being passed and overwhelmed by the field, the onslaught of the CRASH commenced…not sure of what started it as I was fortunate of enough to be ahead of it…barely ahead – or so I thought as I was outrunning the tide of crashing and grinding …the next moment though, I felt something slam into my rear wheel – again not sure of what or who it was. It was enough to skip my rear out sideways, but by some miracle, I managed to stay upright. The rear wheel took a good beatin’ as it was knocked way out of true. I gathered my belongings to return to my car when I realized that a sizeable handful of racers were street-side only to find that their cars had been towed!! NYC Traffic and Parking seemingly went on a BLITZ as some dozen or so racers cars were (that’s right) towed away. Okay so get this….a $400 price tag. That covers $170 for the parking ticket, $180 for the towing fee, $28 for race entry, gas and tolls!! Oh – and the winner, GIL – yup, he got his race winnings…and off he rode into the sunrise in search of his towed car. The purse probably got him approx ¼ of the way to what he needed to recoup is car. Also one certain crash victim bruised and bloodied had the rare privilege to ride off into the sunrise to search for his car too – all battered and bruised. Make sure you all head the parking signs next time. NYC seems to be trying to make up for some lost revenues (or something).
“As Metra / Cycles 54 was not represented in the break group, they drilled the shit out of the front of the main field.”
It sure looked like they were sitting on the wheel of anyone who tried to chase. Saw it many, many times.
Where wreathe towed cars parked?
The kind of contact that was initiated in that B race would get you intentionally crashed in the big boy race. Totally punk.
i agree you need to be able to handle contact, but to do it to a guy who is dropping back and not participating in a sprint AND is not impeding your progress is needless and dangerous. i doubt very much ricky or colin or any of the other sprinters in the “big boy world of the A field” would disagree.
Can’t we all just get along?
Everyone getting along to mengoni.
Tony is a great guy and a gentleman. He even apologized to me once for sneezing in front of me while racing, and he doesn’t even know me. Most of you would not do that. Leave him alone.
Obviously
Inson Clown Posse
“harlem hill” with their hit song “Inson in the membrane”
“la la la la la” – cycling is a contact sport, deal with it. Contact with the road, contact with each other, contact with saddle sores . . .blah, blah blah, stop complaining, get more physical (ala Cav) and enjoy the ride . . . . Man up bitch#s!
form guide! fantastic.
“in PP, a member of a different team (will remain nameless) hooked his his handlebars on the nyvc rider’s bars.”
insert TEANY into “(will remain nameless)”…
i remember this one time, at band camp…
hay fever you are a fn moron. you obviously don’t know your arse from your head. go back to your little hole you idiot
If you have something to say then post it under your real name. Otherwise just another sandbagging fagot in lycra.
Enough of this childish crap, yall sound like a bunch of winging school girls.
Focus your attention elsewhere. Why are we even going back to a race that happened a month a go?
I was a victim of that crash and it comes down to being SOL. That’s racing. Im still recovering from it, but im not complaining.
Lets find something positive to talk about instead. Can we do that?
McGarrity to Mengoni
McGarrity crashed because the winning the race was “too easy!”
McGarrity crashed because he tried to ride a one-handed wheelie to the finish line yelling, “That’s too easy…”
im gonna try no hands wheelie next time, but dont blame me if i cause a crash.
In the incident in question, McGarity’s muscular frame struck the pavement so hard that the crater left behind was big enough to provide shelter for a family of vagabonds, the youngest child of which is now a rhodes scholar.
I have something to say: Get your facts straight before posting BS accounts of things that happened in races when you obviously don’t know exactly what happened!!
don’t be racist.
http://d2e2kkd6o9o36c.cloudfront.net/files/2010/12/18Bend_CX.jpg
is this site at all useful for anything remotely race related anymore?
he has both hands on his bars? what a cat5 noob.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/750823-Race-video-playing-dirty!
the wheelie. The guys doin the wheelie ain’t gonna crash.
Whoever wrote that Maltese thing is on crack
Adler sucks and Mendez is whack
6:49pm – have proof before you make such accusations!
It seems that you don’t have as much pull on this site as Olsen. Otherwise, the webmaster (the pale one) would have stopped the dumb thread already. So sorry.
gets “pull” on this site alright. cat 5’s want him and cat 4’s want to BE him.
Adam Craig is a bad ass
i think it says something about the huge number of lesser category posters here when everyone is talking about this “mcgarrity” fellow, yet i, as a cat 2, have no idea who the fuck that is.
Matteo to world cat 2 championships.
hey ‘matteo’, come on up and get your award for the most pompous idiot on the board (and that is saying a lot!). so you are a cat 2? let me guess, mid 30’s to early 40’s, drive a minivan, have a job in finance, blah blah blah blah. most likely you race in the A field but aren’t a factor, you linger about afterwards talking about how you had a chance but something happened otherwise you totally would have placed and then you either ride or drive your sad self home and look on the internet for pics or comments about your race. get over yourself. we do this for fun. you may be a cat 2 here in nyc, why not try to do a road race or even a crit out west sometime and see how you fare. see what that 2 on your license does for you then. loser. oh, and i bet mcgarrity hasn’t heard of you either.
McGarrity is like yo mama, Too Easy!
The “out west” card has been played. Can Matteo counter?
Out West to Mengoni
Matteo and Baldo to out west cat 2 cage fight world championships.
Why don’t you two badasses pick up McGarrity and take a spin down to the western section of southeastern North Carolina where the REAL tough guys ride bicycles in brightly colored spandex for fun on the weekends.
all your assumptions couldn’t be further from reality. i was mildly offended by your liberal use of “idiot” in this context, but defending myself against an annonymous internet poster would offer me no personal gain, and only feign insecurity on my part. however, it’s a lazy tuesday night, so i’ll risk looking like an insecure tool and say this: i’m nearly half the age of your latter guess, and i can practically guarantee you that i will be competitive in any cat 2 race which you place me in, regardless of the coast. so why am i not a cat 1, or on SKY, you ask? well, contrary to your label of “loser,” i enjoy a social life and would prefer to train a somewhat minimal amount and indulge myself in my youth than i would to train like a madman, only to become a mediocre pro at best. i certainly don’t take this sport as seriously as a lot of guys who compete at this level.
stfu matteo, you douche…complain about the site yet still read and post anonymously.
weak or a troll
Who were the cat 4 douches in red racing at PP this weekend? Sidwell Racing or something like that? Some dood kept yelling at his team mate to go chase down the break and then sit on the front and slow it down. The peloton was really strung out and this dood was all the way at the back and he just kept yelling at the top of his lungs. Sounded like Rocky yelling ADRIAN, ADRIAN. It was annoying they way he was screaming. Who are these red cat 4 screamers? Should be Sidwell Screamers.
Don’t forget to take your Ritalin tomorrow. You’ll feel normal again, sorta.
Yeah them Out West riders are tough. But they can’t make a bagel worth a fart!
Speedwell Racing. I had an issue with one of their guys a few weeks ago at Prospect. Some guys tried to get away, and the same thing happened verbatim. Some guy yelled from the middle or the back about a break. When he was yelling, somewhere in the distance I heard this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg&NR=1
Good job Speedwell.
To Cat 2 racer looking back in disgust. So what, you’ll never go pro, so we’ll look at each other with disgust at the local park races. I’ll view you as one who has a few extra laps to race than me and can avg. 1 to 2mph faster. At the end of the day, we’re doing the same races, racing for table scraps and fun. If you ever win a race, at best, you could only treat your teammates that helped you to MAYBE a large order of fries at McDonalds. LOL. You make me laugh. You were so good you just started at Cat 2 didn’t you?
Cat2 to Mengoni.
SUCKS!
Another HIGHER CATEGORY racer here looking BACK with disgust. I once wallowed with you and hated every minute of it. The yelling, whining, negative racing, lack of basic skills and understanding. I’m happy to say I don’t know who the fuck McGarrity is either. You can hate HIGHER CATEGORY riders all you want but few of you will ever earn the right to race with me. You don’t know what working and earning really is since you were given your upgrade from 5 with very little experience. Almost like every kid getting a trophy.
You’re here posting whiny anonymous bullshit about an elbow in a sprint. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! You sound like little kids saying, “mommy, he pushed me!” You would never survive in the BIG KID’S race…
so many douchebags on this board in all categories… it really does boggle the mind how much this sport attracts complete tools.
http://www.crca.net/2011/07/board-proposes-revisions-to-associations-by-laws/
NYVelocity to Chem Bank
Hey just to clear the air here are we saying that because you are a Cat2 racer in NY riding local races you should think less of yourself because West Coast Cat 2 riders are superior???
There seems to be a vague understanding that if one asserts themselves to be of a higher racing category, then they take bike racing way too seriously and are a douche. In this case, I cannot argue that I am not the latter, as my interweb presence has projected me as such. However, I definitely do not take myself TOO seriously– I am a cat 2, I am a decent bike racer, I could probably be better, but I don’t care enough to move up. Let’s be real for a sec, shall we? The vast majority of bike racers, both on this site, and in NYC take themselves seriously enough. Waking up a couple of hours before the ass-crack of dawn to ride in circles in a city park, with mere prospects of petty cash, if you’re good enough, but for most, only a fair workout and a $40 hole in your pocket. Spending the same amount of time that some would spend on a part time job to train? Can’t say that you don’t take yourselves seriously. As for racing on the left coast, I raced Tour of the Gila a few years ago. Yeah, it was hard, definitely harder than any race in NYC, but I wouldn’t consider it up to par with the frightening image that the posters below me have drawn. What makes you so sure that this cat 4 is good enough to beat me “out West” when you have little idea of my capabilities or and the reality of racing in places other than the tri-state area?
Of the proposed CRCA amendments to the by-laws?
I’ll start – agree with a previous poster here, the intentions appear sound, but the key proposal is concerning as written. The proposal is that the board shall have the “unilateral” right to terminate from the club any rider who brings “disrepute” to the club.
This definition is much too vague in my opinion. What is disrepute? Well, doping, conviction of a crime, unprovoked assault – those seem clear. What about wearing an ugly kit – that could be argued to bring disrepute. What about arguing with Alex over a placing and calling him names? Wrong, yes, worthy of termination? Riding on the bike paths in CP?
I suggest that the amendment be changed to apply ONLY to the specific cases where the board shall have the unilateral right to terminate a member, perhaps, such as:
1. Confirmed and/or admitted doping
2. Physical aggression towards any race official
3. Intentional and undisputed crashing of another rider
4. Fighting
5. “3” (or some other number) of violations of any CRCA rules in any one year
Thoughts?
I agree with McCarvile (there is a first time for everything!). Bylaw amendments seem rushed and could use some better drafting. I think the code of conduct (see CRCA website) should be beefed up the board be given the discretion, which would have to be in “good faith” (that will mean something to the lawyers/deal professionals in the crowd) to suspend, pending confirmatory vote of the members.
I also think the “quorum” requirements should be discussed. Is 25% enough, particularly for actions that require 2/3rds approval (See Article V, Sec. 2)?
Article VIII, Sec. 1 should be revised to be two-thirds majority vote of the Members “in accordance with Article V” not “as determined by the Board”.
I would also clarify what actions can and cannot be taken without a meeting of the members. Seems slightly ambiguous now.
Finally, should the board have non-officer members? The officers, not understandably as it is a thankless job for the most part, can be reactionary to situations and having some non-officer board members who are slightly above the fray may be helpful to engender reasonable discourse. May make sense for other reasons to as these non-officer board members can be individuals with some political pull/connections which would be useful for the CRCA as a whole.
I think you are right. I think the current board would not abuse the simple “disrepute” rule which could have a wide interpretation. But who knows what the future board could be like and they might interpret that to be something else. Laws should be very specific and not open to interpretation because the means they will likely be abused at some point.
Ok thanks guys, so when I enter any events on the west coast in the future I will be sure to tell the officials although my license says Cat2 I should be riding Cat 4 events on the West Coast.
Is this a cycling, no less racing enthusiast, website? No talk about TdF, is it over or something? Are we not interested in TdF? Has CRCA trumped TdF? Will the same happen with the Vuelta?
Can’t we all get along? We all have so much more in common than the anti-cyclists out there; the same ones who were trying to shut down CRCA and the whole NYC cycling scene earlier this same year.
This kind of infighting is just what anti-cyclists factions want…we are stronger united.
Keep it real, kiss and make up.
Love,
Rodney
Have to say that these boards don’t reflect the personalities of the racers I’ve met at the races. I started racing road this year and now i’m a 4. Everyone, in person, has been supportive and I’ve learned A LOT and grown A LOT as a racer. Glad I hadn’t see this forum before I started racing. It’s so full of negativity. Higher Category riders dissing the lower category, yet they came up through the same Category system. Teams dissing other teams. No sense of help, mentorship or unity on this site.
So glad that the personalities at the races are alot different than what is conveyed in the comment section on this site. We’re all east coasters. I’ll support my Cat 2 Eastern brethren over a Cat 2 Western rider any day!!!
In this cycling world of self-important abrasive personalities you stand out among the most irritating. It is no wonder that you ride unattached – who could possibly put up with you…
you’re wrong. these boards DO reflect the personalities of the racers you’ve met at the races. they just don’t speak their minds at the races, they do it here.
I hope everyone gets in touch with the board to voice their opinions. Board members do not necessarily read this forum and may not see everyone’s concerns.
a racing website by looking at the Events listed on the front page
Pro and amateurs – crashes happen regardless of the level. And most of these crashes are NOT bc some media vehicle runs riders over, but becasue riders make mistakes. Shit happens and we have witnessed plenty of that in this tour alone.
Cat 1s and 2s, don’t make mistake and cause crashes? Oh please. They crash in races and during training rides just like the lower category guys.
Why finger point a rider? a team ? or a category. No one wants to crash and probably no one intends to cause a crash in a race.
If you think some guy made a mistake or made an aggressive move and caused you to fall and you need to settle the matter, then consider going up to the guy after the race or when you all healed up. And if you were not involved in the crash, try to stay calm and move on, or if you really need to speak up, then go talk to the rider!
If you are posting negative feed back about other people’s crash on this site, I don’t care if you are a Cat 1 or a Pro rider, because as a man, you are much much lower than a Cat 5.
Just in case anyone is still wondering if there was an actual arrest in New Britain, here’s a link to the New Britain Police arrest log. http://newbritainpolice.org/images/arrests/arrest%20log%207111-71011.pdf You have to go to the last entry on page 6 to see: 7/10/11
Gustavo Francisco
35
600W 189 St New York, NY
Breach of Peace 53a-181, Assault 3rd 53a-61
11-23679
……not on Foundation – cat 4 rides for Innovation – it was merely a matter of time until someone popped Kyle Wolfe surprised this is the first time..
So this Gustavo guy is a hero and not an asshole? We might as well chip a fucking statue of Lisban in the bizzaro world that in NYC cycling.
Yeah, innovation – stand-up guys. Heard one of them won univest.
no matter what your personal opinion is regarding the character of an official, its never okay to punch anybody at a bike race.
Where does it say that in the rule book?
at 3:55 “ET…” anonymously admonished “If you are posting negative feed back about …”
Without negative feedback there would be no point to this whole site. NYVelocity – negative anonymous idots.
Kyle Wolf yells while coming forward with a black eye.
he has his own team
CRCA Members – a discussion topic has been added to the CRCA facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/crca.net?sk=app_2373072738
Tell the CRCA board you opinions on the proposed amendments to the Club By-laws
Gustavo to UFC
qho erased my comment?
If you’re talking about the comment I’m thinking of, I erased your comment. It was because it was in response to a previous comment that needed to be deleted. Once I deleted the original comment yours didn’t make sense any more, and would only make the original insinuation bubble back to the surface. Does that make any sense at all?
In response to the anonymous and feckless complaints regarding Speedwell Racing… If you witness a safety issue or rules violation with any of the Speedwell squads, please feel free to find me and talk to me – I post under my real name. My primary concern is to develop a safe squad that races fairly – and communication with one another throughout the race serves to keep my racers informed of the road conditions, as well as to maintain team form and position throughout our race plan. Which indirectly benefits you, as we place a priority on racing safely, and maintaining an awareness of whats happening up the road so there can be no surprises.
Moshe Silverstein