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Lisban Quintero of Foundation has the snazziest transitions of all and won the CRCA Power Points A race on Saturday. Other results are lost to the sands of time – or are just not posted on the internet anywhere I can find them.
Will O’Donnell of Westwood Velo powers his way to a win at the New Jersey ITT Championships.
At the track, Andrew LaCorte of Sommerville Sports wins the men’s 1/2/3, with Elizabeth Reap of Verducci-Breakaway Racing taking the women’s win.
There are many gaping holes in the results for this weekend, so if you won, please write in and tell us all about it — with extra points for snazzy transitions.
podium
A break of 7 got away. JP Kaminski won (Racing in a Danny’s Cycles Kit). Joe Straub, Andreas Rungastcher (DKNY), Eddie Espisito (Blue Ribbon), Tom Luzio (Wonder Wheels), Paul Levis (Target) stayed away. Sal Abrusses came in just before the pack. Remaining pack that was not dropped and/or lapped finished in a sprint for the final 3 spots. Pat Clifford (Bike Depot), Gabriel Gentile (Cafeteros) and maybe one other were in the top ten. Tough and fun race. About 60 starters.
any of these guys under 25?
The youngest qualifier would be Gabriel Gentile. He is 21 or 22 I think. The rest are over 25.
Bennati to US races
Good news for cycling fans on the East Coast of the United States. Liquigas will send a strong team to the Commerce Bank Triple Crown races on June 3, 5 and 8. And its captain will be none other than Daniele Bennati, who is coming off three stage wins in the recent Giro d’Italia. The Italian also took the points jersey.
The Lehigh Valley Classic will be run over 12 laps of 11.4 kilometres each and the Reading classic is 119 kilometres in length. The final race, the Philadelphia International Championship, has a classics distance of 230 kilometres.
Liquigas will have the following riders to support Bennati, Maciej Bodnar, Claudio Corioni, Alberto Curtolo, Enrico Franzoi and Ivan Santaromita.
On the last day, the team will be visiting the Cannondale production centre in Bedford. Liquigas rides on Cannondale bicycles.
Road trip! Anyone going to these during the week? Bring the bikes, ride the circuit, steal some podium time, get some schvagg
Toto kinda looks lke a Cat 5 in this pic:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/index.php?id=/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/belgium083/DSC_0137
And don’t miss this one:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/index.php?id=/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/belgium081/BEL1_003
looks like he had one too many pieces of ham.
last post not by OA
why such a low pre-reg? Saving it for the ITT?
http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=6595
..and why pre-reg closed a WEEK before the race?
Of course it’s company policy never to imply ownership in the event of an Organic Athlete post. Always use the indefinite article: *an* organic athlete, never *the* Organic Athlete
nice ITT Will, not bad to Andy either, how does that course compare to 4 laps in CP?
as coolest last name in pro cycling:
Roberto Ferrari (Ita) LPR Brakes
Alessandro Maserati (Ita) LPR Brakes.
Definitely Sprinters.
i think a lot of people are on the fence about going around prospect park 20 times.
umm, 22 laps to be exact, but how’s that different from a P12 crit with 50+ laps?
Any results from t-town opener? Any nyc guys/gals go?
nice ride will o
Eugene has it all spelled out nicely:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/boronow/esg.htm
just the boredom factor.
criteriums have corners
the ESG is mind numbingly boring
to zmolik. he won the point’s race last year and did not even show up this year. scared of lisbon?
He broke his leg or knee a few months ago and was having a decent comeback.
Recently he crashed at Somerville – not sure if he was hurt and that’s why he didn’t do the club race, or was busy with something else.
Thanks. I saw Andy briefly and see that he just missed that magical number, but the course was certainly long, and they did not factor that in. Nice ride Andy. It was a tough day!
As compared to four laps in the park? Not sure what you mean, but the park at least has scenery and a little elevation change!
My question is, How bad is FBF? I see you guys are having a TT out there, and I was considering doing that pre-High Bridge, but I like to use my “fragile” wheels (1080 and a disc). Is it so bad that this is not recommended at all? What is the FBF surface like?
Finally, great to see so many of you out there! Rashad had a good ride, as did Anthony Accardi and Rufus Pichler. Good to see a lot of you guys in Joisey.
Isn’t ‘race excitement’ to an extent what you make it to be? I think bumping on same corners for dear life is more dizzying than a much longer and varied circuit where you can initiate good breaks and watch strategies develop….but I can see how just ‘staying put’ can be a bore.
no doubt, racing is like sex or pizza. still good even when it’s not. but listen to the elders on this one … do the 22 laps in PP, then come talk to us
It sounds like NJ was a faster course than CP…FBF is also flat obviously and potholes aren’t too bad if alone. It’s the crosswinds that might have you fighting a disc a bit but you might make up for it in the headwind sections..
I’m not sure that the distance of the NJTT was long…..My distance is 24.935 about 1/10th of a mile over 24.85 that a 40k is supposed to be….. I WAS desperately for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.
Not a good ride at all. I suffered a heat stroke. Last night was one of the worst nights of my life. I felt like I was dying.
Congrats to you! I do enjoy your blog.
ah, that is funny and I see what you mean 😉
I’m not sure that the distance of the NJTT was long…..My distance is 24.935 about 1/10th of a mile over 24.85 that a 40k is supposed to be….. I WAS desperately SEARCHING for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.
don’t know if it’s true, but heard that zmolik broke an ankle and rib at sommerville.
Mine read 24.947 miles. Which confirms that I suck ass. Will, I rode 808 and disk at Floyd last year, no problem.
sounds terrible.
and hydrate, everyone. It’s not spring series anymore.
maybe don’t wear a hat in the heat? you need to vent dude!
Will, we know you’re a “dr” get over it. you don’t people signing “mr. JFT”
wow
pulling posts left and right!
Heat stroke is nothing to laugh at, even if you somehow manage to accomplish it in under an hour on a not all that hot day, that does take some talent, or at least the proper Preparation…
I had a problem once with Le Charge and getting over heated…..
At least he’s signing his posts.
And I’m sure the clowns making extremely dumb comments about Rashad know first hand what the temperature and conditions were in Chatsworth, NJ yesterday
really just want him to share
Low of 63, high of 84.
i think he was talking about the temperature…
It’s me doing the deleting. Stop being douchebags.
i made the original comment about heatstroke. I didn’t mean to be facetious about it. Obviously Rashad is extremely fit and if it could happen to him it could happen to anyone given the wrong combination of circumstances.
Yesterday was hot but not August hot, but we’ve had a pretty cold spring and it does take time to acclimate to riding in hot weather.
hahaha.
Andy, we gotta keep you busy. The more posts you have to delete, the less time you have to draw up those stupid comics.
Just can’t help being a douchebag, I guess?
3 PA Lightning and a few others plus Eric Schildge got away…beautiful smooth lightly rolling speed course. Chauner and Schildge (pro nounced Schild-Guh) went off that with 3 circuits to go, then Chauner sat on the Schildster for the finally with 3 in the 2nd group, and jumped him for the win.
Doucheyness is subjective.
Instead of trolling posts for stuff to delete, perhaps fix all the goddamn bugs on the site.
douchiness is subjective and rampant
I got heatstroke because i forgot to wipe down with Summers Eve right before my TT.
agree. high level of douchiosity.
Douchiosity is like irony. Tough to define, but you know it when you see it. Andy has a highly tuned douchiosity radar and we all applaud his editorial precision. Thanks Prof DB!
warm weather for one of the first times of the year, intense effort, long warm-up (perhaps on a trainer), and maybe not drinking enough in the morning and that can, together, result in dehydration problems, even w/o intense heat and “only” racing an hour
Wait, Warming up, on a trainer? also rates high on the douchiosity meter.
has anyone seen me RBC testing strips? I seemed to have left them somewhere.
simply being dehydrated shouldn’t cause you to get heat stroke, you have to be severely dehydrated, enough to stop sweating. Yet another good reason to NOT warm up on a trainer, as it greatly increases your core temperature, and decreases performance.
Im no expert on the topic, but remember back in high school when I once did a test on a rowing ergometer for the crew team and ended up in the care of the school trainer for several hours due to heat stroke. The test lasted no more than 10 min, but at 100% effort to the point of stressing my inadequately warmed up body to a dangerous degree. Its clearly not the same thing as when you dehydrate over time, but I suspect Rashad had a similar condition as the effort was shorter but highly intense. You can F-up your system by overstressing it – its not easy – you have to work beyond the normal pain threshold and keep it up well into the point of feeling awful – I only did it once and was kind of afraid to work at that intensity level for several years afterward. I remember puking and feeling like death for hours. As Rashad is not afraid to push to the max, I bet he had the same thing happen.
Its not just from being too hot, or not drinking enough. Most of the crazy comments come from racing for three months now, and not having done squat.
Come on guys – own up. Who hasn’t placed top 5 in a cat 5 race even and is flaming the guys who do win week in and week out? I know that’s part of why I bad mouth the guys I race with.
when was the last time rashad won something? March? right.
look it up man, heat stroke is when your system cannot cool your body properly. being dehydrated certainly helps, but its not the only factor.
I’m pretty sure pushing it past your pain threshold and holding it there is not on that list of factors, nor is not warming up properly. Siting on a fucking rowing machine inside with no breeze on you, allowing your body to heat up far faster than it would outside while moving will do it. Same goes for a trainer. Theres absolutely no cooling provided on that garbage, you sweat like a pig, and it does nothing for you.
Sorry to hear it. The heat got to a lot of people, but it sounds like you got hit as hard as it gets. Get better soon.
Guys, thanks for the FBF info. Thinking about coming out for it.
To the people with obvious difficulties re: Dr. William O’Donnell. I don’t know why I explain, but here goes.
There was once a time when this site had a log in and when I go to click the “comment by” field, that log in comes up because of my browser’s memory. So chalk it up to laziness, but since I did not feel it would be so offensive to as many people as it apparently is, I just let it be.
Now as this is YOUR site, and not mine, I will offer this – YOU decide what my “comment by” name will be, and I will use that from now on so as not to offend the more sensitive among you. Does “Will” work? Do you want a last name? Initials?
I am fine continuing to not be anonymous with my posting, but, I would really enjoy being able to post a comment here once in a while where the comment got more attention than the log-in name.
are you serious? how about, anonymous.
you are the good dr. you will continue to post as “Dr. William O’Donnell” always. this is not up for debate.
furthermore, just once – once! – please take off the gloves, drop the modesty, hit the caps lock key, and bang out “HOW ‘BOUT YOU SUCK ON MY 30MPH KN0B FOR 51 MINUTES, B1TCHES!” just once. please.
that is the only way to deal with these cretins. i would start signing dr. william o’donnell twice on every post just to get their panties in a bunch. andy, pls delete the offending parts of the good dr.’s post, that was clearly a moment of weakness after an extraordinary effort this weekend
Quote: “HOW ‘BOUT YOU SUCK ON MY 30MPH KN0B FOR 51 MINUTES, B1TCHES!”
– this is the first offensive comment on this site that’s actually funny
Shouldn’t you be adjusting some lumbar right now?
I think someone is already on the dr’s knob…….
Yeah, trainers make you heat up. Thats why fans are nice. And they clearly make you sweat, so dont say they dont do anything. Pushing pain levels is not what causes the stroke, per say, but its an apt descriptor for the type of effort needed to achieve the result of a stroke. It doesnt happen easily from just pedaling along. You need to do a massive effort to get your core so hot that the body reacts like a stroke. It happens when you essentially sprint for way longer than your body is happy with, past the point that the pain is telling you to stop and a bit further than is healthy.
Probably heat exhaustion, not heat stroke – heat stroke is VERY serious:
“Heat Exhaustion: Heat exhaustion is less dangerous than heat stroke. It typically occurs when people exercise heavily or work in a warm, humid place where body fluids are lost through heavy sweating. Fluid loss causes blood flow to decrease in the vital organs, resulting in a form of shock. With heat exhaustion, sweat does not evaporate as it should, possibly because of high humidity or too many layers of clothing. As a result, the body is not cooled properly. Signals include cool, moist, pale, flushed or red skin; heavy sweating; headache; nausea or vomiting; dizziness; and exhaustion. Body temperature will be near normal.
Heat Stroke: Also known as sunstroke, heat stroke is life-threatening. The victim’s temperature control system, which produces sweating to cool the body, stops working. The body temperature can rise so high that brain damage and death may result if the body is not cooled quickly. Signals include hot, red and dry skin; changes in consciousness; rapid, weak pulse; and rapid, shallow breathing. Body temperature can be very high–sometimes as high as 105oF.”
how about: Dr. William kiss my ass cause that’s the only part of me you will will ever see O’Donnell.
You see Rosenhaus’s time? just trailing Dr. William O’Donnell, but that dude has him beat with 16 years! Results show Aspholm at 40, Goldman at 39, Rosenhaus 46, Linenberg 42.
4 or more of the top 9 near/at/greater than 40 years of age.
Can anyone say VIAGRA!
I think my problem was not drinking enough fluids, hard week of training and losing weight. It was a warm day but not that hot. I warmed up on the training for about 5 minutes before I realized I was getting too hot. I spun around for 30 minutes before my start. I held my average TT watts for 15 minutes before things started to go south. Again I think it was things leading up to the TT that was the problem and not the TT itself. Whatever it was, I did something wrong that I have to avoid in the future because that shit sucked.
I just bought this ice vest: http://www.arcticheatusa.com/cooling_products.html
oh, yeah, you bet. i’m tremendously impressed the good dr.’s results. some of us have worked years to achieve his accomplishments, but we all fall way short. he has outclassed us with his sheer efficiency. no doubt in my mind that he is the most efficient cyclist in whole northeast, hands down, and most likely the planet. no doubt.
and im not talking about his TT. no offense, but crazy work ethic, determination, dedication, focus, training, blah blah yadda yadda yawn yawn. not my bag of tricks (not that there’s anything wrong with it).
what makes him so amazingly efficient is that he has found a way to annoy anonymous d-bags to no end just by putting three little characters in front of his name. genius! all he does, every post, is put a little ‘d’, ‘r’ and a miniscule ‘.’ in front of his name and you drunken monkeys wank in your cages and throw your spunk at the screen.
that, my friends, is a master stroke. (or, more precisely, three very little master keystrokes.)
bravo, il buon dottore.
(the only way i’ve even come close to good dr.’s results is by riding around without a helmet. that, too, is an effective way to annoy jackholes. my preferred method is to pop in some ipod earphones, go for a spin, and wait for someone to yell ‘hey wear a helmet!’ i just point to my earphones and yell back, “WHAT? HUH? WHAT? IM SORRY, CAN YOU SPEAK UP, PLEASE?’ we’ll go back and forth like that 5-6x until they wise up.)
(best part is, i don
Scientific test show warming up on a trainer is detrimental to performance. Its not hate, its factual. Just cause everyone appears to be doing it doesn’t mean its a good idea. And getting your core super hot does not improve your ride.
Yet another toy for Rashad.
Wouldn’t the ice vest’s development directly correlate to the detrimental effects of overheating your core on a trainer before your TT? Hmm, its all beginning to make sense. . .
But keep turning yourselves in to blast furnaces and then wonder why you suck.
“Scientific test show warming up on a trainer is detrimental to performance.”
citation or link please
I believe that overheating is detrimental to performance, and for sure it’s easier to overheat on a trainer w/no air flow, but I find it hard to believe that a trainer warm up is, in general, detrimental.
the cooling cap is nice
I know I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this hate, but isn’t Will a chiropractor?
Does a degree from a Chiropractic College really qualify one as a Dr.?
I mean, it’s not like he went to med school or anything.
just keep warming up on the trainer man…
“I WAS desperately SEARCHING for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.”
Anthony, I have you beat on that one – I was desperately searching for the turn around and it only got worse from there. It was hot. I paused to drink twice on the way back losing time each moment but I was in survival mode. Rashad – sorry for the heat stroke, feel better soon. Great to see all you other NYers out there. Props to Steve Goldman for a strong ride and donating 1000 to the ALS fund, and congrats to Will on a tremendous ride. Same to Hoffman and linnenberg for their rides. By the way, I had 25.30mi on my srm
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
Tony, I got you beat. I spent 57 minutes begging myself not to quit. Afterwards I wanted to ride by the registration desk wearing nothing but my number so they’d DQ me and not post my crappy time.
but I think I witnessed greatness yesterday. 51:25 was it? Many congratulations. I think this was outstanding even though you say you cracked at 35 minutes. You improved more or less by 2 minutes if on take into account the slightly longer TT this year. What do contribute this to? How much of it is aero improvements and how much is weight and how much is just improved performance would you say
Your TT was quite outstanding too. I can shout MF until it comes out my ears but I don’t think I’ll ever beat you again.
I didn’t go to 8 years of frikkin Evil Med School to be called Mr. Oh Kay…hmmm…
$100,000,000,000….
waa haaa waaa mmwaawmmwaaaaa
Very good for a cat.3
ok for a 2
2nd page for a 1
recovery day for a pro
domo arigato, dr. roboto!
is one jealous MF.
What are your Cat 3, Cat 2, Cat 1 calculations based on?
51 min at 29 mph, solo (even on a completely flat course) is pretty f-ing fast for anyone but a pro, douchebag. Give the guy some credit for a good ride (even if time trials do suck).
First of all, great race Dr! And to everyone that battled the heat and their own demons.
…How did you get the tailwinds to follow you? ;))
I am sure “the Haters” is not what motivates you but in search of “truth”…
Here is Marco Pinotti’s SRM file from last stage of Giro. Great food for thought!
http://www.velonews.com/article/76960/marco-pinottis-perfect-day-and-the-race-data-to
from Velonews website.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/02/mexico.bikers.ap/index.html
on always using the”Dr.” title, but how he cannot post anything without making himself the topic. posting on this site what races he’s thinking about going to, because that’s so important for us to know what he’s thinking. he’s also the worst sandbagger i have ever seen, EVER. So bad, it’s tantamount to doping because the other cat 3, regular guy, have a real job and kids riders cannot possibly compete against this guy. For real, it is total bullshit what a sandbagger this egomaniac is.
All of this just makes it somewhat humorous to jab at his insistence on using the Dr. title when he is just a D.C. It is a fact that a real M.D. would not so frequently use the Dr. title when blogging. Lil’ Will clearly has an ego problem. just read his ridiculous blog about himself. the kicker is that there are a bunch of cat 3’s on this site who worship this guy.
by the way, did he use the UCI ILLEGAL position to win? If so, his win was phony, even if no one protested.
Tonight’s Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series at Floyd Bennett Field has double points.
over 34 upgrade points in 2008 alone. This does not include his strong TTs. The guy needs to upgrade along with Will O.
Will O mainly does TTs…who cares what category he races?
Will O races 1/2/3 races when he does road races. Is there a higher category to race in? As for us riders without a “real job and kids,” – I’m not sure they have a category for that. You may want to try tri’s. Then you can PR in the Clydsdale, over 35 but under 35 1/2 with annoying wife, job you hate, and kids, category. In addition, the rumor was that Hoffman got the upgrade. What is wrong with trying to achieve some success in the category you are in prior to requesting one? Mind your own store. Bunch of whiny, jealous, wanna be’s.
Ya’ll need to relax and try some of these cajun crawfish I got here……..
anonymous ‘not just the insistence’ guy: threatened by two consonants and a punctuation mark. proclaims to not enjoy the good dr, yet reads more of his writing. (“just read his … blog”). (yeah, when i don’t enjoy what someone writes, i look for their blog to read more, too. good call.)
rashad: treats the good dr w/ respect and congratulates him
wow. real tough to decide on which side’s right on this one.
Nah – Battenkill = Cat 3. Tour of Ephrata = Cat 3/4. Last year Mengoni = Cat 3. Giro of NJ = likely Cat 3. Good for Hoffman for upgrading.
How’d he finish, btw?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24943229/
usa cycling doesn’t give a damn if people hang out in category 3 comfort. i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again – cat 3 is a collecting pool for “the rest.” you get there by getting 10 top 10 places in category 4 and you get out only if you are the type that likes sucker punches to the groin. frankly, i’m not sure what my cat 2 on my licenses gets me… i get to race in 2 or 3 different races than if i was a 3?? i can’t wait until my wife convinces me to knock her up and i downgrade. then i’m going to kick all your asses in the 3s again.
too many guys already doing exactly that…downgrade but bring your A game to the party. Threes are the new Twos.
because james joseph and will o race 3s? lets see… if you can sit on will’s wheel and sprint your way out of a paper bag you can beat them both (i’m implying you get in a break and beat will at the sprint.)
i mean it’s not that hard to figure out.
Many of the local 2s would not win more than 1 race out of town as a 3 this year. So for all the 2s get a grip on reality. Guys winning the 3s this year were kicking the asses of guys that are now 2s. There are exceptions to this rule as some of the local 2s are legit (Rashad, Lloyd, Marcinko, Malloy).
You guys do realize, TTs don’t count for upgrade points, alas, Will O will never upgrade.
Who’s calling out the legit-ness on 2s? some random 3 or 4? EVERYONE here needs to get a grip on reality, throwing out all these ridiculous theories. Rashad as gotten trounced at every out of town race this year. How legit is that? Dude gets prickly heat after 50 minutes in the sun on a pleasant day. totally legit.
Why don’t you all relax, race your goddamn bike, and keep your trap shut. Maybe, just maybe you’ll upgrade and wont have to race Dr. Willow and JJ.
NOBODY around here is legit, if they are, they have already moved to a more legit location.
I don’t think they will, despite having it pointed out numerous times. It seems questionable he even has the upgrade points.
Funny thing about upgrades: Seems like the most undeserving get them the fastest….So if the theory holds true, he will get his 2, and then essentially disappear from RRs. Theres no point for him to upgrade. He’s too old to hang with the elite guys in a real TT, and hes just not strong enough to last in a pro 1/2 RR. thats why most 3s that are sitting pretty in the 3 races don’t upgrade. Can’t handle the truth.
by too old I mean too old to significantly improve his time trialing and bring it up to the level of pro/1 speeds. He’s still a 3 for christ sake.
I guess now that the Ken Harris cat 3/4 worship festival has come to a close (finally) the masses are yearning for another mediocre guy to bow down to. Well, “Dr.” Will seems to be that lucky guy.
this thread is getting weird
getting?
Have you been in a break with Will? I have, a 3 man break, and let me tell you, he drove it, and then outsprinted us (by jumping early and holding it). He can sprint, although he doesn’t consider it his strength. If you are capable of holding the power necessary to get into, and stay in a break with him, chances are you can’t outsprint him. If you wait for the field sprint, your chances of beating JJ are worse than the lottery. It’s ridiculously easy to figure out, impossibly difficult to execute.
This would be good for the 2s who get thrashed in the Pro1-2 races and good for the 3s who want to prove themselves against all the “Legit” 2s. I can say that I am an average 3 and have raced Pro1-3 RRs out of town. There is a big difference from 3s to the 1-3. The Cat1 teams drill it on the front and the speeds are relentless. For me, I will be a 3 for ever and when I turn 35 I will race masters for a challenge.
2/3 races turn into 3 races. Without 1s, sadly, its a pretty bad race generally speaking. Most P1/2/3 races end up being P1/2 races anyways, as the 3s are the cream in the middle of the peloton oreo. fatty filling.
One solution is to just separate all categories, you beat on each other upgrade, and adapt. Except, there are 10 billion 3s, 50 2s, and 15 1s around here.
That is your average 2 will ride circles around your average 3….not talking top tier or low tier…just averages….go to bikereg.com and look up 5 random races, clip top 25, in a 1/2/3 race and count how many 2’s and how many 3’s are in teh top 25….nuff said.
there was a 2/3 omnium at trexlertown this past weekend. it was a good time. the top 3 guys in the omnium were cat 2s – and honestly i don’t know who 4th and 5th were but i would bet they were 2’s also.
is dumb. 2s are most likely better and faster than 3s. that’s how they got there.
I want to go race in Mexico and get slammed by dudes driving post 55 teuila shots….dear god that photo is disturbing
The photo is extremely disturbing. So is the post below “American rider dead.” Why is “Rider dead” not bad enough?
they be short.
3 or whatever, Will’s TT speed is at the pro/1 level right now.
And who cares what category he’s racing in – unless he is forced to upgrade he can race as a 3 as long as he wants, and you guys will just have to deal with it. If you don’t like, why don’t you downgrade to 4, may be you’ll win a race then.
What’s up with the racist shit on this sight?
is as fucked up as most of the rest of the comments here
i’m sorry i love a good laugh but please stop calling mexicans short, half pints or little people. that’s just going to far.
being short is not a racial thing. We’ll it kinda is, but, there are lots of short white folk as well. Perhaps a bit to sensitive?
But they are short. Facts aren’t racist, thats why they are fact and not opinion.
who said calling someone short was bad? rob wing is short i think he’s cute.
dude, if will was as fast as a pro, don’t you think he’d be pro? get with it. You’re slow, hes faster than you, but still slow.
hahaha.
Paolo Bettini is a little man.
OH SO WHY YOU GOTTA GO HATING EYETALIANS NOW? I HATE YOU ALLL!!!!!!!!!
being pro would require a little more than time-trialing really fast, including being younger and a better road racer – but he’ll beat most domestic 1s and a lot of domestic pros in a TT right now
Talk about the dangers of racing! This is unbelievable!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24943229/
You mean, he’d beat the pros that are climbers and don’t give a shit about TTing? Yeah. I would too. He’s a TT guy, great. next.
Uh yea, we know, Mexicans, cars, bikes, boom. Its been posted about 30 times so far. talk about the dangers of not reading.
Oooops sorry…instead of reading every single thing all the time, I am out working and riding… Not near the computer as much as some of you cats!
Gotta ride now…later!
I think thats because some of us have jobs …..
in front of computers……
You should be working then! I work SUPERVISING people on computers!!!!!! Get back to work!!!!!!!
you deserve all the heckling you get for reposting old content. take your lumps, move on, or get the fuck off my court!
I didnt realize “Mexican” was a race, or that being short was inherently a racists comment even if applied to “latino”. Can I scream racist if someone yells at me that I cant dance just because white guys typically cant dance like latinos or something? Gimme a break. Get your insults straight. There is “mean” and “stereotyping” and then there is “racist”. Wholly different things, my little friend.
I just love the constant redux of the “fast 3 vs avg 2” argument (apply to all adjacent cats). My question is this: Who is more out of touch. A 2 commenting who upgraded like 10 years ago and hasnt seen an all 3 race since, or a 3 who currently races both 3 races and combined 1-2-3? I think its obvious that the latter has better perspective and can comment intelligently about the strength of both fields. I think its obvious that the top 10% of 3s are not just a little but actually significantly faster than the bottom 40% of 2s, most of whom are avg fast and likely undertrained vs the faster 60% of that cat. Its a no brainer actually. Dont even attempt to deny unless you have raced both fields in last few years.
are you calling me little? i’ll kick your ass!
speaking of old content, was it one of you guys who posted the bats for lashes’ “what’s a girl to do” video re: bear halluciantions?
of the 2 vs 3 comparison.
if you’re “legit”, whatever being a 4/3/2 whatever is just a snapshot in time on your way up .
this whole thing started because someone told the cat 3’s to shut up about will o and james joseph. that someone was assumed to be some 10 year cat 2 veteran who doesn’t train anymore. we actually have no idea who that person is.
fact remains – you show up and race the guys who are next to you. regardless of whether they are a 2 or a 3 or a 1. in fact any 2 can race a 3 any weekend at prospect park, nj or ct in the 1/2/3 race.
so where is this “3s are the new 2s” talk coming from? its pretty obvious that if you were any good you can make the choice between what number you want on your license and USA cycling wouldn’t really care so long as you don’t downgrade more than once.
point being – there is no point to this conversation.
dude, why are you pulling percentages out of your ass? 2s earned their 2s, 3s haven’t. end of story.
There are a hell of a lot more 3s in this country than 2s. Why is that? because moving beyond a 3 means you are not just “fast”. I know a lot of strong morons, and they are 3s. So make up percentages all you’d like, try to qualify the number on your license if you so desire, but if it says 3, you’re a 3, not a 2 or a 1. Upgrade, if you can.
If only you 3s would do go a UCI elite race, you’d shut up, faster than you were dropped.
Any top level 3 can be a pack fill 2. Who cares?
3s do obviously.
Got there upgrades. No real results as 3s.
who are you referring to exactly? that statement baffles me because the few guys i know who upgraded all had plenty of results.
ie: rashad, jp kaminsky… are you arguing with their upgrade points? go away.
“A 2 commenting who upgraded like 10 years ago and hasnt seen an all 3 race since, or a 3 who currently races both 3 races and combined 1-2-3? I think its obvious that the latter has better perspective and can comment intelligently about the strength of both fields.”
Ahhh, as a sucky old 3 I’ve seen some cat 3 races up close after getting dropped out of the p-1-2 field….
But it’s hard to compare apples and apples. A lot of 3-only races are regional events that guys are focussed on and have big fields. Jiminy, Bear, even the Mengoni 3. Those are obviously pretty intense. Local 1-2-3s vary a lot in terms of who is there and how deep the field is. While the guys winning are clearly really good, there are, say, local prospect races were there are guys getting 8th and 10th through daring w/o particular skill or horsepower. But a 1-2-3 that people travel far for and has a full field can be way harder than that. A p-1-2 that is full is even harder.
So what am I saying? I’m not sure…
Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
June 3, 2008
Brooklyn NY
Pro-1/2/3
1. Adam Alexander (CRCA/Sakonnet)
2. Alejandro Guzman (CRCA/Foundation)
3. Tom Bencivengo (Sommerville Sports)
4. Robert Wing (Sommerville Sports)
5. David Sommerville (Sommerville Sports)
Caetgory 3-4
1. Dan Schmalz (CRCA/Merril Lynch)
2. Chris Prinsloo (CRCA/SouthAfrica.net)
3. Eric Robertson (Kissena)
4. James Joseph (WS United)
5. Brian Breach (Unatt)
Category 5
1. James Buttler (Unatt)
2. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
3. Leszek Sniadowski (Poland)
4. Daniel Perez (Chelsea)
5. Samuel Schaeffer (Unatt)
Thanks to all the marshals, pacers, officials and Cadence Cycling for supporting our races. A special thanks to Paul Burrowes who helped Mr. I out at regisrtation while wearing his yellow jersey!
Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club
You’re a class act. I love getting home and seeing the results the day of the race. What’s better than that…..?
But that’s gotta be a misprint.
Congrats Schmalz!
The Schmalz sprinted pass Robertson and Joseph!! it was incredible!
Actually, kidding, the Schmalz and Prinsloo got away on lap 2 or 3, probably never got much more than a minute, but worked there asses off for however many laps. Pretty awesome, very deserved win. Congrats Dan!
pass the epo!!
j/k haha
schmalz, bagsander!!!
The only thing unbelievable about that accident in Mexico is that only 1 guy got killed.
Remember that German guy that was crocked and plowed into the Aussie womens team in Germany and killed and injured.
zmolik didnt ride on saturday ’cause he’s now a ‘pro’ racer, the big s***, and your stupid powerpoints are no use to him. he hates you all ppl.
He Hate Me?
FYI:
Effective June 1, 2008 the business of Red Rose Races.com, Inc. has been suspended indefinitely and Rich Ruoff has resigned. As a behind-the-scenes investor in this enterprise I will attempt to liquidate whatever assets Rich turns over (trailer, equipment, etc.) and make restitution to everyone owed money in some proportionate and fair way, but this will take time and Rich
Huh? I have no idea what this means???
Please post results, thanks.
Red Rose races are the next step up from the park and some of them are close to regional level competition. They are little longer in distance and usually have a few pros in the field. They are great races to prepare you for the season. I am very sad to see them go.
they also organize the Tour de Chistiana race. Bummer
as much as his broken knee was bulls s***
test
test
A break of 7 got away. JP Kaminski won (Racing in a Danny’s Cycles Kit). Joe Straub, Andreas Rungastcher (DKNY), Eddie Espisito (Blue Ribbon), Tom Luzio (Wonder Wheels), Paul Levis (Target) stayed away. Sal Abrusses came in just before the pack. Remaining pack that was not dropped and/or lapped finished in a sprint for the final 3 spots. Pat Clifford (Bike Depot), Gabriel Gentile (Cafeteros) and maybe one other were in the top ten. Tough and fun race. About 60 starters.
any of these guys under 25?
The youngest qualifier would be Gabriel Gentile. He is 21 or 22 I think. The rest are over 25.
Bennati to US races
Good news for cycling fans on the East Coast of the United States. Liquigas will send a strong team to the Commerce Bank Triple Crown races on June 3, 5 and 8. And its captain will be none other than Daniele Bennati, who is coming off three stage wins in the recent Giro d’Italia. The Italian also took the points jersey.
The Lehigh Valley Classic will be run over 12 laps of 11.4 kilometres each and the Reading classic is 119 kilometres in length. The final race, the Philadelphia International Championship, has a classics distance of 230 kilometres.
Liquigas will have the following riders to support Bennati, Maciej Bodnar, Claudio Corioni, Alberto Curtolo, Enrico Franzoi and Ivan Santaromita.
On the last day, the team will be visiting the Cannondale production centre in Bedford. Liquigas rides on Cannondale bicycles.
Road trip! Anyone going to these during the week? Bring the bikes, ride the circuit, steal some podium time, get some schvagg
Toto kinda looks lke a Cat 5 in this pic:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/index.php?id=/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/belgium083/DSC_0137
And don’t miss this one:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/index.php?id=/photos/2008/may08/belgium08/belgium081/BEL1_003
looks like he had one too many pieces of ham.
last post not by OA
why such a low pre-reg? Saving it for the ITT?
http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=6595
..and why pre-reg closed a WEEK before the race?
Of course it’s company policy never to imply ownership in the event of an Organic Athlete post. Always use the indefinite article: *an* organic athlete, never *the* Organic Athlete
nice ITT Will, not bad to Andy either, how does that course compare to 4 laps in CP?
as coolest last name in pro cycling:
Roberto Ferrari (Ita) LPR Brakes
Alessandro Maserati (Ita) LPR Brakes.
Definitely Sprinters.
i think a lot of people are on the fence about going around prospect park 20 times.
umm, 22 laps to be exact, but how’s that different from a P12 crit with 50+ laps?
Any results from t-town opener? Any nyc guys/gals go?
nice ride will o
Eugene has it all spelled out nicely:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/boronow/esg.htm
just the boredom factor.
the ESG is mind numbingly boring
to zmolik. he won the point’s race last year and did not even show up this year. scared of lisbon?
He broke his leg or knee a few months ago and was having a decent comeback.
Recently he crashed at Somerville – not sure if he was hurt and that’s why he didn’t do the club race, or was busy with something else.
Thanks. I saw Andy briefly and see that he just missed that magical number, but the course was certainly long, and they did not factor that in. Nice ride Andy. It was a tough day!
As compared to four laps in the park? Not sure what you mean, but the park at least has scenery and a little elevation change!
My question is, How bad is FBF? I see you guys are having a TT out there, and I was considering doing that pre-High Bridge, but I like to use my “fragile” wheels (1080 and a disc). Is it so bad that this is not recommended at all? What is the FBF surface like?
Finally, great to see so many of you out there! Rashad had a good ride, as did Anthony Accardi and Rufus Pichler. Good to see a lot of you guys in Joisey.
Isn’t ‘race excitement’ to an extent what you make it to be? I think bumping on same corners for dear life is more dizzying than a much longer and varied circuit where you can initiate good breaks and watch strategies develop….but I can see how just ‘staying put’ can be a bore.
no doubt, racing is like sex or pizza. still good even when it’s not. but listen to the elders on this one … do the 22 laps in PP, then come talk to us
It sounds like NJ was a faster course than CP…FBF is also flat obviously and potholes aren’t too bad if alone. It’s the crosswinds that might have you fighting a disc a bit but you might make up for it in the headwind sections..
I’m not sure that the distance of the NJTT was long…..My distance is 24.935 about 1/10th of a mile over 24.85 that a 40k is supposed to be….. I WAS desperately for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.
Not a good ride at all. I suffered a heat stroke. Last night was one of the worst nights of my life. I felt like I was dying.
Congrats to you! I do enjoy your blog.
ah, that is funny and I see what you mean 😉
I’m not sure that the distance of the NJTT was long…..My distance is 24.935 about 1/10th of a mile over 24.85 that a 40k is supposed to be….. I WAS desperately SEARCHING for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.
don’t know if it’s true, but heard that zmolik broke an ankle and rib at sommerville.
Mine read 24.947 miles. Which confirms that I suck ass. Will, I rode 808 and disk at Floyd last year, no problem.
sounds terrible.
and hydrate, everyone. It’s not spring series anymore.
maybe don’t wear a hat in the heat? you need to vent dude!
Will, we know you’re a “dr” get over it. you don’t people signing “mr. JFT”
wow
pulling posts left and right!
Heat stroke is nothing to laugh at, even if you somehow manage to accomplish it in under an hour on a not all that hot day, that does take some talent, or at least the proper Preparation…
I had a problem once with Le Charge and getting over heated…..
At least he’s signing his posts.
And I’m sure the clowns making extremely dumb comments about Rashad know first hand what the temperature and conditions were in Chatsworth, NJ yesterday
really just want him to share
Low of 63, high of 84.
i think he was talking about the temperature…
It’s me doing the deleting. Stop being douchebags.
i made the original comment about heatstroke. I didn’t mean to be facetious about it. Obviously Rashad is extremely fit and if it could happen to him it could happen to anyone given the wrong combination of circumstances.
Yesterday was hot but not August hot, but we’ve had a pretty cold spring and it does take time to acclimate to riding in hot weather.
hahaha.
Andy, we gotta keep you busy. The more posts you have to delete, the less time you have to draw up those stupid comics.
Just can’t help being a douchebag, I guess?
3 PA Lightning and a few others plus Eric Schildge got away…beautiful smooth lightly rolling speed course. Chauner and Schildge (pro nounced Schild-Guh) went off that with 3 circuits to go, then Chauner sat on the Schildster for the finally with 3 in the 2nd group, and jumped him for the win.
Doucheyness is subjective.
Instead of trolling posts for stuff to delete, perhaps fix all the goddamn bugs on the site.
douchiness is subjective and rampant
I got heatstroke because i forgot to wipe down with Summers Eve right before my TT.
agree. high level of douchiosity.
Douchiosity is like irony. Tough to define, but you know it when you see it. Andy has a highly tuned douchiosity radar and we all applaud his editorial precision. Thanks Prof DB!
warm weather for one of the first times of the year, intense effort, long warm-up (perhaps on a trainer), and maybe not drinking enough in the morning and that can, together, result in dehydration problems, even w/o intense heat and “only” racing an hour
Wait, Warming up, on a trainer? also rates high on the douchiosity meter.
has anyone seen me RBC testing strips? I seemed to have left them somewhere.
simply being dehydrated shouldn’t cause you to get heat stroke, you have to be severely dehydrated, enough to stop sweating. Yet another good reason to NOT warm up on a trainer, as it greatly increases your core temperature, and decreases performance.
Im no expert on the topic, but remember back in high school when I once did a test on a rowing ergometer for the crew team and ended up in the care of the school trainer for several hours due to heat stroke. The test lasted no more than 10 min, but at 100% effort to the point of stressing my inadequately warmed up body to a dangerous degree. Its clearly not the same thing as when you dehydrate over time, but I suspect Rashad had a similar condition as the effort was shorter but highly intense. You can F-up your system by overstressing it – its not easy – you have to work beyond the normal pain threshold and keep it up well into the point of feeling awful – I only did it once and was kind of afraid to work at that intensity level for several years afterward. I remember puking and feeling like death for hours. As Rashad is not afraid to push to the max, I bet he had the same thing happen.
Its not just from being too hot, or not drinking enough. Most of the crazy comments come from racing for three months now, and not having done squat.
Come on guys – own up. Who hasn’t placed top 5 in a cat 5 race even and is flaming the guys who do win week in and week out? I know that’s part of why I bad mouth the guys I race with.
when was the last time rashad won something? March? right.
look it up man, heat stroke is when your system cannot cool your body properly. being dehydrated certainly helps, but its not the only factor.
I’m pretty sure pushing it past your pain threshold and holding it there is not on that list of factors, nor is not warming up properly. Siting on a fucking rowing machine inside with no breeze on you, allowing your body to heat up far faster than it would outside while moving will do it. Same goes for a trainer. Theres absolutely no cooling provided on that garbage, you sweat like a pig, and it does nothing for you.
Sorry to hear it. The heat got to a lot of people, but it sounds like you got hit as hard as it gets. Get better soon.
Guys, thanks for the FBF info. Thinking about coming out for it.
To the people with obvious difficulties re: Dr. William O’Donnell. I don’t know why I explain, but here goes.
There was once a time when this site had a log in and when I go to click the “comment by” field, that log in comes up because of my browser’s memory. So chalk it up to laziness, but since I did not feel it would be so offensive to as many people as it apparently is, I just let it be.
Now as this is YOUR site, and not mine, I will offer this – YOU decide what my “comment by” name will be, and I will use that from now on so as not to offend the more sensitive among you. Does “Will” work? Do you want a last name? Initials?
I am fine continuing to not be anonymous with my posting, but, I would really enjoy being able to post a comment here once in a while where the comment got more attention than the log-in name.
are you serious? how about, anonymous.
you are the good dr. you will continue to post as “Dr. William O’Donnell” always. this is not up for debate.
furthermore, just once – once! – please take off the gloves, drop the modesty, hit the caps lock key, and bang out “HOW ‘BOUT YOU SUCK ON MY 30MPH KN0B FOR 51 MINUTES, B1TCHES!” just once. please.
that is the only way to deal with these cretins. i would start signing dr. william o’donnell twice on every post just to get their panties in a bunch. andy, pls delete the offending parts of the good dr.’s post, that was clearly a moment of weakness after an extraordinary effort this weekend
Quote: “HOW ‘BOUT YOU SUCK ON MY 30MPH KN0B FOR 51 MINUTES, B1TCHES!”
– this is the first offensive comment on this site that’s actually funny
Shouldn’t you be adjusting some lumbar right now?
I think someone is already on the dr’s knob…….
Yeah, trainers make you heat up. Thats why fans are nice. And they clearly make you sweat, so dont say they dont do anything. Pushing pain levels is not what causes the stroke, per say, but its an apt descriptor for the type of effort needed to achieve the result of a stroke. It doesnt happen easily from just pedaling along. You need to do a massive effort to get your core so hot that the body reacts like a stroke. It happens when you essentially sprint for way longer than your body is happy with, past the point that the pain is telling you to stop and a bit further than is healthy.
Probably heat exhaustion, not heat stroke – heat stroke is VERY serious:
“Heat Exhaustion: Heat exhaustion is less dangerous than heat stroke. It typically occurs when people exercise heavily or work in a warm, humid place where body fluids are lost through heavy sweating. Fluid loss causes blood flow to decrease in the vital organs, resulting in a form of shock. With heat exhaustion, sweat does not evaporate as it should, possibly because of high humidity or too many layers of clothing. As a result, the body is not cooled properly. Signals include cool, moist, pale, flushed or red skin; heavy sweating; headache; nausea or vomiting; dizziness; and exhaustion. Body temperature will be near normal.
Heat Stroke: Also known as sunstroke, heat stroke is life-threatening. The victim’s temperature control system, which produces sweating to cool the body, stops working. The body temperature can rise so high that brain damage and death may result if the body is not cooled quickly. Signals include hot, red and dry skin; changes in consciousness; rapid, weak pulse; and rapid, shallow breathing. Body temperature can be very high–sometimes as high as 105oF.”
how about: Dr. William kiss my ass cause that’s the only part of me you will will ever see O’Donnell.
You see Rosenhaus’s time? just trailing Dr. William O’Donnell, but that dude has him beat with 16 years! Results show Aspholm at 40, Goldman at 39, Rosenhaus 46, Linenberg 42.
4 or more of the top 9 near/at/greater than 40 years of age.
Can anyone say VIAGRA!
I think my problem was not drinking enough fluids, hard week of training and losing weight. It was a warm day but not that hot. I warmed up on the training for about 5 minutes before I realized I was getting too hot. I spun around for 30 minutes before my start. I held my average TT watts for 15 minutes before things started to go south. Again I think it was things leading up to the TT that was the problem and not the TT itself. Whatever it was, I did something wrong that I have to avoid in the future because that shit sucked.
I just bought this ice vest: http://www.arcticheatusa.com/cooling_products.html
oh, yeah, you bet. i’m tremendously impressed the good dr.’s results. some of us have worked years to achieve his accomplishments, but we all fall way short. he has outclassed us with his sheer efficiency. no doubt in my mind that he is the most efficient cyclist in whole northeast, hands down, and most likely the planet. no doubt.
and im not talking about his TT. no offense, but crazy work ethic, determination, dedication, focus, training, blah blah yadda yadda yawn yawn. not my bag of tricks (not that there’s anything wrong with it).
what makes him so amazingly efficient is that he has found a way to annoy anonymous d-bags to no end just by putting three little characters in front of his name. genius! all he does, every post, is put a little ‘d’, ‘r’ and a miniscule ‘.’ in front of his name and you drunken monkeys wank in your cages and throw your spunk at the screen.
that, my friends, is a master stroke. (or, more precisely, three very little master keystrokes.)
bravo, il buon dottore.
(the only way i’ve even come close to good dr.’s results is by riding around without a helmet. that, too, is an effective way to annoy jackholes. my preferred method is to pop in some ipod earphones, go for a spin, and wait for someone to yell ‘hey wear a helmet!’ i just point to my earphones and yell back, “WHAT? HUH? WHAT? IM SORRY, CAN YOU SPEAK UP, PLEASE?’ we’ll go back and forth like that 5-6x until they wise up.)
(best part is, i don
Scientific test show warming up on a trainer is detrimental to performance. Its not hate, its factual. Just cause everyone appears to be doing it doesn’t mean its a good idea. And getting your core super hot does not improve your ride.
Yet another toy for Rashad.
Wouldn’t the ice vest’s development directly correlate to the detrimental effects of overheating your core on a trainer before your TT? Hmm, its all beginning to make sense. . .
But keep turning yourselves in to blast furnaces and then wonder why you suck.
“Scientific test show warming up on a trainer is detrimental to performance.”
citation or link please
I believe that overheating is detrimental to performance, and for sure it’s easier to overheat on a trainer w/no air flow, but I find it hard to believe that a trainer warm up is, in general, detrimental.
the cooling cap is nice
I know I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this hate, but isn’t Will a chiropractor?
Does a degree from a Chiropractic College really qualify one as a Dr.?
I mean, it’s not like he went to med school or anything.
just keep warming up on the trainer man…
“I WAS desperately SEARCHING for the finish line but that started somewhere around mile 6 if I recall correctly.”
Anthony, I have you beat on that one – I was desperately searching for the turn around and it only got worse from there. It was hot. I paused to drink twice on the way back losing time each moment but I was in survival mode. Rashad – sorry for the heat stroke, feel better soon. Great to see all you other NYers out there. Props to Steve Goldman for a strong ride and donating 1000 to the ALS fund, and congrats to Will on a tremendous ride. Same to Hoffman and linnenberg for their rides. By the way, I had 25.30mi on my srm
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
Tony, I got you beat. I spent 57 minutes begging myself not to quit. Afterwards I wanted to ride by the registration desk wearing nothing but my number so they’d DQ me and not post my crappy time.
but I think I witnessed greatness yesterday. 51:25 was it? Many congratulations. I think this was outstanding even though you say you cracked at 35 minutes. You improved more or less by 2 minutes if on take into account the slightly longer TT this year. What do contribute this to? How much of it is aero improvements and how much is weight and how much is just improved performance would you say
Your TT was quite outstanding too. I can shout MF until it comes out my ears but I don’t think I’ll ever beat you again.
I didn’t go to 8 years of frikkin Evil Med School to be called Mr. Oh Kay…hmmm…
$100,000,000,000….
waa haaa waaa mmwaawmmwaaaaa
Very good for a cat.3
ok for a 2
2nd page for a 1
recovery day for a pro
domo arigato, dr. roboto!
is one jealous MF.
What are your Cat 3, Cat 2, Cat 1 calculations based on?
51 min at 29 mph, solo (even on a completely flat course) is pretty f-ing fast for anyone but a pro, douchebag. Give the guy some credit for a good ride (even if time trials do suck).
First of all, great race Dr! And to everyone that battled the heat and their own demons.
…How did you get the tailwinds to follow you? ;))
I am sure “the Haters” is not what motivates you but in search of “truth”…
Here is Marco Pinotti’s SRM file from last stage of Giro. Great food for thought!
http://www.velonews.com/article/76960/marco-pinottis-perfect-day-and-the-race-data-to
from Velonews website.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/02/mexico.bikers.ap/index.html
on always using the”Dr.” title, but how he cannot post anything without making himself the topic. posting on this site what races he’s thinking about going to, because that’s so important for us to know what he’s thinking. he’s also the worst sandbagger i have ever seen, EVER. So bad, it’s tantamount to doping because the other cat 3, regular guy, have a real job and kids riders cannot possibly compete against this guy. For real, it is total bullshit what a sandbagger this egomaniac is.
All of this just makes it somewhat humorous to jab at his insistence on using the Dr. title when he is just a D.C. It is a fact that a real M.D. would not so frequently use the Dr. title when blogging. Lil’ Will clearly has an ego problem. just read his ridiculous blog about himself. the kicker is that there are a bunch of cat 3’s on this site who worship this guy.
by the way, did he use the UCI ILLEGAL position to win? If so, his win was phony, even if no one protested.
Tonight’s Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series at Floyd Bennett Field has double points.
over 34 upgrade points in 2008 alone. This does not include his strong TTs. The guy needs to upgrade along with Will O.
Will O mainly does TTs…who cares what category he races?
Will O races 1/2/3 races when he does road races. Is there a higher category to race in? As for us riders without a “real job and kids,” – I’m not sure they have a category for that. You may want to try tri’s. Then you can PR in the Clydsdale, over 35 but under 35 1/2 with annoying wife, job you hate, and kids, category. In addition, the rumor was that Hoffman got the upgrade. What is wrong with trying to achieve some success in the category you are in prior to requesting one? Mind your own store. Bunch of whiny, jealous, wanna be’s.
Ya’ll need to relax and try some of these cajun crawfish I got here……..
anonymous ‘not just the insistence’ guy: threatened by two consonants and a punctuation mark. proclaims to not enjoy the good dr, yet reads more of his writing. (“just read his … blog”). (yeah, when i don’t enjoy what someone writes, i look for their blog to read more, too. good call.)
rashad: treats the good dr w/ respect and congratulates him
wow. real tough to decide on which side’s right on this one.
Nah – Battenkill = Cat 3. Tour of Ephrata = Cat 3/4. Last year Mengoni = Cat 3. Giro of NJ = likely Cat 3. Good for Hoffman for upgrading.
How’d he finish, btw?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24943229/
usa cycling doesn’t give a damn if people hang out in category 3 comfort. i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again – cat 3 is a collecting pool for “the rest.” you get there by getting 10 top 10 places in category 4 and you get out only if you are the type that likes sucker punches to the groin. frankly, i’m not sure what my cat 2 on my licenses gets me… i get to race in 2 or 3 different races than if i was a 3?? i can’t wait until my wife convinces me to knock her up and i downgrade. then i’m going to kick all your asses in the 3s again.
too many guys already doing exactly that…downgrade but bring your A game to the party. Threes are the new Twos.
because james joseph and will o race 3s? lets see… if you can sit on will’s wheel and sprint your way out of a paper bag you can beat them both (i’m implying you get in a break and beat will at the sprint.)
i mean it’s not that hard to figure out.
Many of the local 2s would not win more than 1 race out of town as a 3 this year. So for all the 2s get a grip on reality. Guys winning the 3s this year were kicking the asses of guys that are now 2s. There are exceptions to this rule as some of the local 2s are legit (Rashad, Lloyd, Marcinko, Malloy).
You guys do realize, TTs don’t count for upgrade points, alas, Will O will never upgrade.
Who’s calling out the legit-ness on 2s? some random 3 or 4? EVERYONE here needs to get a grip on reality, throwing out all these ridiculous theories. Rashad as gotten trounced at every out of town race this year. How legit is that? Dude gets prickly heat after 50 minutes in the sun on a pleasant day. totally legit.
Why don’t you all relax, race your goddamn bike, and keep your trap shut. Maybe, just maybe you’ll upgrade and wont have to race Dr. Willow and JJ.
NOBODY around here is legit, if they are, they have already moved to a more legit location.
I don’t think they will, despite having it pointed out numerous times. It seems questionable he even has the upgrade points.
Funny thing about upgrades: Seems like the most undeserving get them the fastest….So if the theory holds true, he will get his 2, and then essentially disappear from RRs. Theres no point for him to upgrade. He’s too old to hang with the elite guys in a real TT, and hes just not strong enough to last in a pro 1/2 RR. thats why most 3s that are sitting pretty in the 3 races don’t upgrade. Can’t handle the truth.
by too old I mean too old to significantly improve his time trialing and bring it up to the level of pro/1 speeds. He’s still a 3 for christ sake.
I guess now that the Ken Harris cat 3/4 worship festival has come to a close (finally) the masses are yearning for another mediocre guy to bow down to. Well, “Dr.” Will seems to be that lucky guy.
this thread is getting weird
getting?
Have you been in a break with Will? I have, a 3 man break, and let me tell you, he drove it, and then outsprinted us (by jumping early and holding it). He can sprint, although he doesn’t consider it his strength. If you are capable of holding the power necessary to get into, and stay in a break with him, chances are you can’t outsprint him. If you wait for the field sprint, your chances of beating JJ are worse than the lottery. It’s ridiculously easy to figure out, impossibly difficult to execute.
This would be good for the 2s who get thrashed in the Pro1-2 races and good for the 3s who want to prove themselves against all the “Legit” 2s. I can say that I am an average 3 and have raced Pro1-3 RRs out of town. There is a big difference from 3s to the 1-3. The Cat1 teams drill it on the front and the speeds are relentless. For me, I will be a 3 for ever and when I turn 35 I will race masters for a challenge.
2/3 races turn into 3 races. Without 1s, sadly, its a pretty bad race generally speaking. Most P1/2/3 races end up being P1/2 races anyways, as the 3s are the cream in the middle of the peloton oreo. fatty filling.
One solution is to just separate all categories, you beat on each other upgrade, and adapt. Except, there are 10 billion 3s, 50 2s, and 15 1s around here.
That is your average 2 will ride circles around your average 3….not talking top tier or low tier…just averages….go to bikereg.com and look up 5 random races, clip top 25, in a 1/2/3 race and count how many 2’s and how many 3’s are in teh top 25….nuff said.
there was a 2/3 omnium at trexlertown this past weekend. it was a good time. the top 3 guys in the omnium were cat 2s – and honestly i don’t know who 4th and 5th were but i would bet they were 2’s also.
is dumb. 2s are most likely better and faster than 3s. that’s how they got there.
I want to go race in Mexico and get slammed by dudes driving post 55 teuila shots….dear god that photo is disturbing
The photo is extremely disturbing. So is the post below “American rider dead.” Why is “Rider dead” not bad enough?
they be short.
3 or whatever, Will’s TT speed is at the pro/1 level right now.
And who cares what category he’s racing in – unless he is forced to upgrade he can race as a 3 as long as he wants, and you guys will just have to deal with it. If you don’t like, why don’t you downgrade to 4, may be you’ll win a race then.
What’s up with the racist shit on this sight?
is as fucked up as most of the rest of the comments here
i’m sorry i love a good laugh but please stop calling mexicans short, half pints or little people. that’s just going to far.
being short is not a racial thing. We’ll it kinda is, but, there are lots of short white folk as well. Perhaps a bit to sensitive?
But they are short. Facts aren’t racist, thats why they are fact and not opinion.
who said calling someone short was bad? rob wing is short i think he’s cute.
dude, if will was as fast as a pro, don’t you think he’d be pro? get with it. You’re slow, hes faster than you, but still slow.
hahaha.
Paolo Bettini is a little man.
OH SO WHY YOU GOTTA GO HATING EYETALIANS NOW? I HATE YOU ALLL!!!!!!!!!
being pro would require a little more than time-trialing really fast, including being younger and a better road racer – but he’ll beat most domestic 1s and a lot of domestic pros in a TT right now
Talk about the dangers of racing! This is unbelievable!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24943229/
You mean, he’d beat the pros that are climbers and don’t give a shit about TTing? Yeah. I would too. He’s a TT guy, great. next.
Uh yea, we know, Mexicans, cars, bikes, boom. Its been posted about 30 times so far. talk about the dangers of not reading.
Oooops sorry…instead of reading every single thing all the time, I am out working and riding… Not near the computer as much as some of you cats!
Gotta ride now…later!
I think thats because some of us have jobs …..
in front of computers……
You should be working then! I work SUPERVISING people on computers!!!!!! Get back to work!!!!!!!
you deserve all the heckling you get for reposting old content. take your lumps, move on, or get the fuck off my court!
I didnt realize “Mexican” was a race, or that being short was inherently a racists comment even if applied to “latino”. Can I scream racist if someone yells at me that I cant dance just because white guys typically cant dance like latinos or something? Gimme a break. Get your insults straight. There is “mean” and “stereotyping” and then there is “racist”. Wholly different things, my little friend.
I just love the constant redux of the “fast 3 vs avg 2” argument (apply to all adjacent cats). My question is this: Who is more out of touch. A 2 commenting who upgraded like 10 years ago and hasnt seen an all 3 race since, or a 3 who currently races both 3 races and combined 1-2-3? I think its obvious that the latter has better perspective and can comment intelligently about the strength of both fields. I think its obvious that the top 10% of 3s are not just a little but actually significantly faster than the bottom 40% of 2s, most of whom are avg fast and likely undertrained vs the faster 60% of that cat. Its a no brainer actually. Dont even attempt to deny unless you have raced both fields in last few years.
are you calling me little? i’ll kick your ass!
speaking of old content, was it one of you guys who posted the bats for lashes’ “what’s a girl to do” video re: bear halluciantions?
of the 2 vs 3 comparison.
if you’re “legit”, whatever being a 4/3/2 whatever is just a snapshot in time on your way up .
this whole thing started because someone told the cat 3’s to shut up about will o and james joseph. that someone was assumed to be some 10 year cat 2 veteran who doesn’t train anymore. we actually have no idea who that person is.
fact remains – you show up and race the guys who are next to you. regardless of whether they are a 2 or a 3 or a 1. in fact any 2 can race a 3 any weekend at prospect park, nj or ct in the 1/2/3 race.
so where is this “3s are the new 2s” talk coming from? its pretty obvious that if you were any good you can make the choice between what number you want on your license and USA cycling wouldn’t really care so long as you don’t downgrade more than once.
point being – there is no point to this conversation.
dude, why are you pulling percentages out of your ass? 2s earned their 2s, 3s haven’t. end of story.
There are a hell of a lot more 3s in this country than 2s. Why is that? because moving beyond a 3 means you are not just “fast”. I know a lot of strong morons, and they are 3s. So make up percentages all you’d like, try to qualify the number on your license if you so desire, but if it says 3, you’re a 3, not a 2 or a 1. Upgrade, if you can.
If only you 3s would do go a UCI elite race, you’d shut up, faster than you were dropped.
Any top level 3 can be a pack fill 2. Who cares?
3s do obviously.
Got there upgrades. No real results as 3s.
who are you referring to exactly? that statement baffles me because the few guys i know who upgraded all had plenty of results.
ie: rashad, jp kaminsky… are you arguing with their upgrade points? go away.
“A 2 commenting who upgraded like 10 years ago and hasnt seen an all 3 race since, or a 3 who currently races both 3 races and combined 1-2-3? I think its obvious that the latter has better perspective and can comment intelligently about the strength of both fields.”
Ahhh, as a sucky old 3 I’ve seen some cat 3 races up close after getting dropped out of the p-1-2 field….
But it’s hard to compare apples and apples. A lot of 3-only races are regional events that guys are focussed on and have big fields. Jiminy, Bear, even the Mengoni 3. Those are obviously pretty intense. Local 1-2-3s vary a lot in terms of who is there and how deep the field is. While the guys winning are clearly really good, there are, say, local prospect races were there are guys getting 8th and 10th through daring w/o particular skill or horsepower. But a 1-2-3 that people travel far for and has a full field can be way harder than that. A p-1-2 that is full is even harder.
So what am I saying? I’m not sure…
Cadence Tuesday Night Race Series
June 3, 2008
Brooklyn NY
Pro-1/2/3
1. Adam Alexander (CRCA/Sakonnet)
2. Alejandro Guzman (CRCA/Foundation)
3. Tom Bencivengo (Sommerville Sports)
4. Robert Wing (Sommerville Sports)
5. David Sommerville (Sommerville Sports)
Caetgory 3-4
1. Dan Schmalz (CRCA/Merril Lynch)
2. Chris Prinsloo (CRCA/SouthAfrica.net)
3. Eric Robertson (Kissena)
4. James Joseph (WS United)
5. Brian Breach (Unatt)
Category 5
1. James Buttler (Unatt)
2. Victor Lopez (Unatt)
3. Leszek Sniadowski (Poland)
4. Daniel Perez (Chelsea)
5. Samuel Schaeffer (Unatt)
Thanks to all the marshals, pacers, officials and Cadence Cycling for supporting our races. A special thanks to Paul Burrowes who helped Mr. I out at regisrtation while wearing his yellow jersey!
Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club
You’re a class act. I love getting home and seeing the results the day of the race. What’s better than that…..?
But that’s gotta be a misprint.
Congrats Schmalz!
The Schmalz sprinted pass Robertson and Joseph!! it was incredible!
Actually, kidding, the Schmalz and Prinsloo got away on lap 2 or 3, probably never got much more than a minute, but worked there asses off for however many laps. Pretty awesome, very deserved win. Congrats Dan!
pass the epo!!
j/k haha
schmalz, bagsander!!!
The only thing unbelievable about that accident in Mexico is that only 1 guy got killed.
Remember that German guy that was crocked and plowed into the Aussie womens team in Germany and killed and injured.
zmolik didnt ride on saturday ’cause he’s now a ‘pro’ racer, the big s***, and your stupid powerpoints are no use to him. he hates you all ppl.
He Hate Me?
FYI:
Effective June 1, 2008 the business of Red Rose Races.com, Inc. has been suspended indefinitely and Rich Ruoff has resigned. As a behind-the-scenes investor in this enterprise I will attempt to liquidate whatever assets Rich turns over (trailer, equipment, etc.) and make restitution to everyone owed money in some proportionate and fair way, but this will take time and Rich
Huh? I have no idea what this means???
Please post results, thanks.
Red Rose races are the next step up from the park and some of them are close to regional level competition. They are little longer in distance and usually have a few pros in the field. They are great races to prepare you for the season. I am very sad to see them go.
they also organize the Tour de Chistiana race. Bummer
as much as his broken knee was bulls s***
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