Eric Barlevav, of Time Pro Cycling wins the main event at Harlem, beating out Rashaan Bahati of Rock Racing, Kake Keough of Sakonnett, and a yellow cab. Barelvav began the celebration immediately by flinging himself to the ground just past the finish line. Foundation has a good showing with Lisbon Quintero and Alejandro Guzman 9th and 10th.
In the 4s race, Shusaku Shiroyama of Kissena wins from a long break with breakaway partner Jaime Garcia of Merrill Lynch getting second. In the other races, Thomas Wood of Philadelphia Ciclismo wins the 3 race, ahead of James Joseph of WS United. In the 30+ race, Eric Merrill of the Clinton Cycling Club wins ahead of Gavin Robertson of Foundation and Tony Taylor of Target Training. In the women’s race Jamie Nicholson-Leener of the CRCA wins from a break over Lisa Jellett of Verducci/ Breakaway Racing.
Complete Harlem results here.
Results from Prospect are like a game of “telephone” and Housatonic results are not yet posted – but I hear the new course has been upgraded to “brutal.”
Mike Mahesh Harlem shots are here.
Steve Dennis shots are here.
Yeah Jaime!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd
Housatonic top tens here:
http://www.zephyrcycling.com/
Have you seen the suckers from Cat4? They were mopping the streets in all corners! Nice job guys…
really great day of racing in Harlem
Great racing this weekend opted for Houstonic instead of Harlem some great NY performances in CAT 4, colin P winning again, and Metro rode a very smart race for him so congrats and to Matt Richards as well, third I believe.
Harlem sounded like great fun, shame I missed it.
As far as comments its he same old thing people who do not know there own name trying to bash the progress of the sport, most sports do not stand a chance in this country as television does not allow it, unless its great entertainment and glam, and easy to segment with advertising.
Look at football ( soccer to you over here ) probably the largest sport in the world cannot even get a look in over here. They bring in David Beckham for a crazy amount of money to bring awareness , he alone can sell out a stadium but it cannot get onto television.
This country has some amazing athletes but most of them end up going abroad as they get more respect and regonition there, look at Michael Johnson ( probably one of the best athletes to ever grace the track ) went to the UK and even commented about lack of support in USA. The other day a Jamaican broke the 100m world record in NY how many people even heard about it.
In order for cycling to grow it needs to get some major entertainment value as well , Lance did a great job of bringing awareness to sport and the debate of did he dope or not will probably never stop but how many people did he get into sport, I know he got me into it and probably saved my health cause of it.
I respect what Rock racing is doing and aso appreciate the purist view but all depends on if you want the sport to grow, there will be drugs in every sport probably forever, look at baseball for example Barry Bonds in particular.
Are sport is rife with drugs as are most sports and I personally believe that will never stop until the drug testing procedure is cleaned up, the floyd landis case was a joke, whether he was quilty or not the testing procedure and the way the handled it was a joke.
Are sport needs a little hype right now, rather than this elite lycra wearing skinny bunch of guys we are looke upon as right now,
congrats to all those who placed this weekend.
Trimble of Kissena was 3rd, not Richards
Great win by Eric.
Great race to Justin winning Housatonic Pro1-2. He is having a monster year and hopefully will get picked up by a more national level team.
prensky 2nd
trimble 3rd
richards 8th
cuttler 10th
Colin P did not win he was 2nd – still great result.
You guys are so freaking binary. Harlem was great AND Ball is a P.O.S. It doesn’t need to be one or the other. Harlem was a great race for NYC AND there was no reason for Rock to mix in with the action end of the PP races Saturday. It was totally awesome to have TV and exposure AND it’s incredibly lame to be in day-glo lycra wagging a devil hand sign around. All that and Ball’s spin on doping in sports and sexuality in the work place are held over from a few decades ago.
To Phil/Sids:
You comment will go down in history of one of the funniest ever submitted to this site.
Seriously, it is the best dramatic monologue of an ignorant roadie I’ve seen. All the spelling errors, grammatical mistakes, typos and fallacious reasoning come together beautifully.
Great work!
Ha!
Made an effort to bring some newcomers to the crit in Harlem. They left wanting more. The intensity of the P12 race blew them away. Good fun. How could that ever be bad?
Check out this series of pictures from the Harlem Pro 1/2 finish. Look how close Bahati comes to running over Barlevav’s hand at the finish. He must have been shitting lead bricks.
http://www.rockracing.com/press/index.php
49-year old Jamie Nicholson-Leener crushes the women’s field by winning 4 primes and the race. That, no doubt, coming off of her solo victory the day before at Prospect. I can’t stop to think that if a male rider had pulled that off, the comments would be pouring into this site. Give the lady her due. Nice rides, Jamie!
still stand by what I said, just did not have time for my coffee.
Sorry and your name was ?
Ever.
ouch.
congrats to kevin malloy of empire who got 8th in the 17-18yo race at housatonic.
In the Prospect race the 4s were passed by the 5s.
Is this totally okay, or an unspeakable humiliation? Discuss.
Bigger group? More laps? Race the next day? Smarter racing? As it has been stated previously, lots of cat 5s have the fitness of cat 3-4s. They’re just new to racing.
The coverage is really solid…worth spending $5 dollars, and if you are ever in a break or off the front, the camera angles are amazing.
Adler rode a smart race in the Harlem 1-2. All 4 guys rode together and finished strong, considering 1/2 the field DNFed due to multiple pileups and NASCAR speeds with the top sprinters in the nation.
Weren’t those guys a bunch of cat 4’s last year?
Perhaps I’m not smart enough to watch the race, but I can’t get to the coverage at the site. Is the link down?
Cat 5 avg. speed at PP = 26.3mph. 39 minutes. Passed 4s on 4th of 5 laps.
connor sallee won housatonic hills juniors, he soloed it from the start and won by a few minutes.
congrats!
On teh home page, see the squares, click on USA Crut Series (they have a shot of a TT guy – whatever) and then underneath that photo you will see HARLEM with the Video camera. Click on that after you get your set up.
IT IS AMAZING COVERAGE…I MEAN AMAZING
ken harris riding at the back the whole time is smart?
IS the only way to describe the new housatonic course. OUCH.
I would love to see you ride 30mph for one lap, let along 35 laps. go polish your Cervello, cat. 5 wanker…
ken rode at the back, next to the field, the entire race. thats not intelligent. and the avg speed wasnt 30, it was around 28, and it was like 52 laps, not 35.
I like pancakes
perhaps you can use your superior brain power to ride at the front of the Harlem Pro race next year. Which race did you do, smart guy?
Full Housatonic results are up at BikeReg
WCSN have posted 1 minute clips of crashes from Cat 4 and highlights of Cat 4, 3, Masters and women. I just searched for Harlem Criterium.
Didn’t Ugli cause the crash at Harlem? That is not very smart now, is it?
that guy is a 2?
Post your name, you are clueless, Ugli didn’t cause that crash, it was swelling in that corner almost every lap — it was too many guys going into too small a space, and you get crashes in situations like that…I rode for that team yesterday, it was a good time, had a nice support group on the right side of the course with 200MM to go….and it looks like Foundation / Mengoni/ Adler were able to keep the core of their teams in the race…as for the speed, I went to the front of the group for 3/4 of a lap to chase down a 9 man break with Edwin Morel dangling in the middle…let’s just say it was fast enough that when I pulled off and Bahati pulled through I was swarmed and went from the lead to mid pack in 100 yards. And like all crits it ramped up at the end, and while it may feel easy to sit in, it is hard to keep your position in the top 25 which is where you need to be with 10 to go to have a shot at the sprint….I mean it doesn’t take a genius to look at the results and see the names in the top have a tendency to be pros…and those on the DNF list have a tendency to be amatuers….but what do I know….you no name poster probably grabbed a top 15 yesterday in the P/1/2 race so I will keep my mouth shut.
On a side – Thanks to the organizers, and WCSN…that coverage is indeed impressive, very neat.
Ray “Ray Ray” Diaz and Wilson Vasquez both around 40 trading punches with the pros, wow, that was great to see!
Seems to have the goods to ride for a real team. Whats with him riding for Foundation? He can climb and sprint and is young no?
Also much Love to Ugli, who rode hard and made NYC proud, I saw the crash and he didn’t cause it. He rode his heart out, he deserves a lot of credit for that ride.
What’s with the women’s pile up? Looks like someone decided to go diagonal mid-pack.
Will be a pro team next year….that said, Kid who won is 22….usually there are reasons why guys are pros.
Are we allowed to congratulate Conner Sallee for his win in the Junior race at Housatonic?
How about the winner of the Cat 4/5 race, or does that not count? — Adam Zimmerman of Setanta.
By the way, the 4’s at Housatonic went faster than the 3’s.
Seemed like there were more crashes in the Pro race at Harlem than the Cat 4 race. Pulling out of their pedals, running into barricades.
Is a Cat2 now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=liJlayHqKFA
Watching the pro field streak by that little “Sanford and Son” like Harlem Bike repair shop on the north side of the park was classic. Anyone get a pic of that?
winning the 4/5s after crashing in prospect the day before
Adler is the new Empire. Watch out, suckas.
Ugli crashed again? can’t that guy stay upright? He is going to kill himself. Ugli, how do you stay motivated on racing when you crash so much? Most guys get sick of it after a few crashes in a year. You go down all the time and are still fired up. What gives?
Was anyone else nervous that camera LURCHING over the race course was 6 inches from yoru head….I mean the TV coverage and camera work was amazing
http://www.rockracing.com/press/index.php
here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67486719@N00/
Forget the shop, the pic I enjoy most is this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67486719@N00/2416487770/in/set-72157602238557115/
how many times has this ugli guy crashed this season?
Its never his fault, is it?
Probably more crashes because the P12 was doing about 10mph faster through the corners and there were about 3 times as many guys on the course? and Ugly.
haha i think it’s always ugly’s fault, unfortunately.
A big yawn on the Ugli bashing; it’s boring and surely done by 1-2 guys who need a new joke.
Do you guys think my fat Cat 4 stomach would look good hanging out over a pair of low cut Rock jeans? I had such a good time riding with those guys that I’m thinking about getting a pair. They would give me just the image I’m looking for to balance out the fact that I’m a middle age, back office chronic masturbator.
any video posted on teh interwebs? i can’t find it anywhere.
never mind:
http://my.break.com/Content/view.aspx?ContentID=520953
from here on out, let’s make an assumtpion:
anyone that anon bashes someone specific has probably never placed ahead of said person in a race.
also, small dong. anon haters have them.
Prospect Park results?
Bueller?
why are you giving your own name to this race? harlem is not the bronx.
It’s a compilation of from WCNS and some private fans. Including some Manhattan skyscrapers. Adds more flavor
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n8HQ3dJ-6ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_bd5RyaiRg&feature=related
Every category
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=sportsnetwork
comparing crashes in the pros to the crashes in the cat 4’s is like comparing crashed in NASCAR to your everyday fender bender…
pros in auto sports and cycle racing generally crash because they are pusing themselves and their equipment to the absolute limit; sometime physics just pushes back, ie pulling out of a pedal because of sheer force…
the average joe crash, car or bike, is usually because of lack of skill or poor decision making…this is not to bash cat 4’s or say that some among them are not talented, fact of the matter is, that just like junior racers, they don’t yet have all of the skills that they are going to have…
I agree with Jason, the Ugli/Ken/Adler bashing is likely coming from 1-2 people and I have a pretty good idea who it is. Give it up, its lame. It would be one thing if the bashing was witty but the repetitive statements being thrown out there are boring.
were because of poor decisions and lack of skill…That race was easy, and guys were being stupid
The officials should have pulled thosePeddlers Paradise riders from the race. The riders also should have been mature enough to pull themselves. That crash (when they got lapped) was 100% their fault. You have to get up pretty early to be that dumb.
Freddie’s power-slide finish-line crash-avoidance was the move of the day, wonder if he had one of the R&R bike cameras on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJzbW2cLbU
if you spend enough time chatting with pro’s about racing in the pro peloton, you will find them complaining about the same dumb sh*t as the rest of us: sketchy riders, stupid crashes, guys not pulling through. probably the one thing they don’t complain about is sandbagging. its a fact of bike racing, whining, that is.
they bitch more. they wont race in europe if its “too cold”
lets not make assumptions about ken and ulgy’s finishing abilities, because, well, they are relatively unproven beyond a cat 3 race.
we bash them because they don’t wear socks.
housatonic photos?
one thing I can tell you about Ken and Ugly is that they do not wear skirts, as I am quite certain whoever wrote the idiocy below does. can you two please post your Harlem race results here? anonymously, of course. I will be shocked if either of you cracked the top 50 in your categories.
Seem to keep quiet and enjoy racing. And BTW – how many of the local Cat1s and 2s are proven beyond cat 3? Most Cat3s that upgrade do nothing after hitting the next level. Look around and there are 5-10 guys that place in the 1s-2s in NYC. Harris is proven as a Cat2 on the track.
Yeah socks are important…those who don’t wear them are like, terrorists and anti-american.
even tho you sign your posts you are still anonymous. idiot.
that is one brilliant retort. so, how did you do yesterday? this is a bicycle racing website, after all. lay it on us…
i did pretty well! i got paid, even.
so, you must be one of the 20 cat 4’s that managed to stay upright – nicely done my man!
and you must be one members of our cycling community who not only wants to remain anonymous, but also wants to collect all his anonymity under an assumed persona named “Cranky”
you are worse than the real anons!
officials didn’t know who was lapped and who wasn’t-myself and others got a dnf and were not involved in any crashes and were not lapped-wtf-who gives a shit. Great job by the 2 who got away-avoiding all the chuckleheads layig their bikes down-
i’m guessing the ugli bashing is coming from cat 1’s and 2’s also. probably cat 1/2’s he’s taken down in a crash. guy rides with his head down all the time.
how many of you whiny bitches have actually talked to him in real life about this? that’s what i thought. frickin pathetic.
An Adler guy not Harris and not a guy that is not normally on their team who had his gloves inside out.
I suggested he relax (he was tense-armed and pulling on the bars a lot) and he said “I’m trying, dude” which was nice, considering I’d barked at him
I didn’t crash but finished behind him. More accurately I didn’t finish – was dropped due to being too far back and behind a crash, then pulled with 1 lap to go.
Meant to sign my name
If I took as much wind as he does I’d be dropped so fast. Helps him stay out of trouble.
His bike has the words C. UGLIETTA in large block letters on both sides of his frame, near the seat tube, hence the nickname UGLY.
Was it him, or not? Or were you riding blindfolded and didn’t notice?
Move of the day. Freddy avoiding the guy was unbelievable.
yeah. freddy ensured that guy still has a hand.
Get the facts straight before you start accusing Ugli of taking other riders down. He has never taken anyone down in a race. Last year in PP, the sprint misshap where he bear hugged the guy in front of him, he managed to stay upright and did not crash anyone – if you look at the sequence of photos from that day he also did not cause that incident, one of the WS United guys wildly swept from right to left in front of Ugli. At Grant’s Tomb a non racer wandered onto the course and Ugli could not avoid him, ramming into him and shattering his finger – again, neither him nor anyone else actually went down in that incident. Ugli told me about JFT telling him to relax yesterday – he has only done a handfull of races since the Grant’s Tomb race and its understandable that he would be a little tense. I’d like to see how comfortable you would be racing again after completely shattering your finger and having it pinned and in a cast for a month and a half. To all the haters out there – watch out for Ugli when he gets back into shape. This post will probably draw more anon flaming but I have to defend my boy against unfair and BS anon hate. At least I have the balls to post my name
Ugly is Batman
Slokar is Robin
I just noticed
He’s an enthusiastic guy who also happens to be very fast. He’s been involved in things because he’s been in bike races, everyone who’s raced more than 5 times has been involved in some mishap. If you haven’t – you have not raced much.
Chris was knocked down at Harlem, but when I talked to him after the race, he was still thrilled to have been in the race and to have been a part of the day. Not even a trace of the usual “racer’s bitch” afterwards. Hard to not like a guy like that.
lets just make fun of his girlfriend sloker
I find it hard to like anyone around here…
Wait you want us to stop hating on a guy who has a positive attitude, and is a strong rider?
Next you’ll tell us to stop hating on puppies and sunshine. Sunshine sucks, and is a sandbagger! Puppies don’t deserve cat 3 upgrades.
so was the P12 so fast they couldnt get any photos taken or what?
Let’s not forget that Ugly is not only a very fun, all-around good guy but he has faithfully served on the board of the CRCA, has been tremendously helpful with many of the open races in the area, and has generally been a major contributor to the cycling scene
prospect park results??
seems to be a crash magnet, involved directly or indirectly far too many incidents. Sorry to observe it this way, but the shoe fits…
when you expose your ankles like that with no socks, you’re begging to crash and skin it to the bone man.
ugli is a babe magnet
They really can protect your skin and bone.
For sure, for sure, without a doubt.
You should try the 5-boros, there are way fewer crashes there. Actually competitive race walking looks even safer.
http://www.usatfne.org/walk/
JFT, you need to be smart enough to know when people are joking and have the maturity to just let some things go without responding. You don’t need to chime into everything. Please don’t respond to this. Practice
JFT is a flame magnet
you mean a jackass comment magnet
lets not get out of control defending Ugli. I’d be amazed if the haters actually know the guy or have raced against him. I have, and I know enough that he’s fast and I don’t mind holding his wheel.
Seriously, if you posted a comment about his riding ability and haven’t raced him, how lame are you?
You just had to respond didn’t you JFT. You just had to respond.
Ugli falls a lot, so you can’t just chalk it up to bad luck. Part of being a good bike racer is knowing your limitations. Ugli doesn’t know his. He shouldn’t have even been in the P/1/2 race.
you find an interesting read about the race titled “I LIED”
forget him. Who cares if he crashes? get over it.
JFT, I only wear full-leather socks, just in case I crash.
Though, there is a reason pro cyclists wear tall socks, besides sponsorship space. You gotta burn through the sock before your burn through your skin, and how far are you sliding?
Ugli has had some bad luck…plain and simple.
Those finish crash photos are worthy of Sport Illustrated.
http://www.keirin.us/gallery/010/2008_HS.html
google blob search hubba what? can you just post a link, dude, im lazy
That sequence of the crash is pretty epic.
The new course is beyond epic, the p/1/2 went up the old finishing climb twice not including a neutral start up the damn thing. It was a major improvement over years past. Congrats to all that finished.
To all those cat 4 riders wondering who the hell it was that won are race by 3.18mins considering are pace car was in front of us the entire bloody race.
We were neutral when masters passed us and controlled by a silver pace car not the pace car we started with mind you and told not to go anywhere, meanwhile are orginal pace car had taken off with a rider to nobodys knowledge in the peloton.
The silver car then was driving in front of us for the next 25 miles with no one attacking because nobody knew anyone was up the road because we had a pace in front of us.
Whoever the idiot was in the silver pace car , get the hell out of the way next time or tell us your not the bloody pace car, you just cost someone the race.
I asked colin where he finished after race, he said first so I said my congrats on good race, colin you must be feeling sick as a dog after hearing someone was ahead.
All I can say is what a bloody mess.
yeah, real crisis, i see it’s on msnbc.com – top story
ugli? i really don’t have that much of a problem with him.
however the foundation guy at the bottom of the 1/2 pileup is a fucking disaster. him and the tall skinny sprinter guy (also foundation) who’s left arm was all bandaged up BEFORE the race (because he crashed in masters earlier???) are in my mind the two biggest risks in the field.
i don’t care if they are the kindest nicest gentlmen in town. they need to chill the fuck out and stop cramming their bike in holes that just aren’t there.
they rode #42 and #46 at harlem. FUCKING DISASTERS.
i just looked them up
glenroy griffeth and josua alexander.
CHILL
I let it slide this morning because you hadn’t had your coffee yet, but Phil? You really need some writing lessons.
Bloody mess, indeed.
http://www.factorydevelopmentteam.com/
I hate to say it…as I am not a hater, but that poster is right…those two guys aren’t so good on their machines, nor is lowe….one of those guys does this stand up and move his upper body way over to the right…was doing it at prospect on saturday, just plain dangerous. And those guys are somewhat notorious for barreling the hill at prospect and then slamming brakes into the sweeping left turn. It is all good as it is racing, and they say, dude has a bandage on his arm stay away … but that last poster has a point. I make a point of getting off those guys wheels.
http://picasaweb.google.com/theronniebravo/HarlemRocks
Saw this linked on NYCC message board.. Nice pics Ron.
phil, we call that the sandbagger’s curse
colin p, i know its nice and warm there but get out of the kiddie pool already
agreed, really liked the course this year. I realize the new finish is more spectator friendly but might suggest at least including some of the old uphill finish.
The fact of the matter is that I went down once while trying to avoid an early pile-up and got caught behind a late crash (didn’t go down) and was pulled with about 1/3 of the remaining field because we were inside of 5 laps.
In any case, it was an excellent day and I had fun!
Cat 4 race was faster than Cat 3 race…
one day you might learn that average speed doesn’t indicate a whole lot, unless it is blistering, which neither were.
That’s Glenroy Griffith.
Don’t know if he crashes much, but he scares me. He tends to just move sideways into people with no hesitation and shots for tiny holes at non-critical moments in the races. He’s got me beat – I’m scared of him and just give him space. Guess I suck for that, but I’m old and a chicken.
that is the guy. JFT has it nailed. he really makes me mad to the point that i want to fight him. and i don’t go picking fights with black dudes.
“and i don’t go picking fights with black dudes.”
What the fuck is that?
I knew some of you guys were weird.
Your vibe is so obvious.
you dont have to pick fights, they take themselves out and walk home all bloodied. Just stay away and let them to it to themselves.
I think they take their handling cues from the van drivers on flatbush.
“they” take themselves out….
I assume you mean sketchy riders, not black people.
Anonymous snark is fine. Anonymous racism is pretty uncool.
Guys, we have been reviewing the photos from the Harlem crit here in Switzerland, and it turns out Ugli’s crit position may not be UCI legal. He has 10 days to arrive in Aigle for a hearing. Also, we hear he is not even a real doctor. So stop calling him Dr. Ugli.
i think he was referring specifically to glenroy griffeth and joshua alexander
they both happen to be black and sketchy.
everyone ease up on the racial sensitivity. we are all made of different colors and sometimes color is used in description. try describing glenroy without it… “tall, skinny, tense, dark hair, foundation..” just doesn’t get the job done.
i’ll qualify this by saying i haven’t been in a fight since i was 9 years of age.
I don’t see anything wrong with avoiding black guys in a fight. mostly they look meaner than white guys. similarly i wouldn’t try to drink a russian under the table or outclimb some little dude from columbia.
Paul-ie
Columbia are you referring to the new Team Columbia? or the country of Colombia? It’s not clear. And you’re racist.
Gavin (the younger Ricky Lowe look-alike) is also one of the Foundation sketchmasters.
no, he means columbia university
Almost all my cocaine come from Columbia.
I thanking them now for sponsor bicycling racing.
How am I going to get motivated to race the remainder of the season coming off Harlem….I mean every race here on out is going to be a let down after racing and seeing myself on teh jumbotron.
Am I the only one who missed the old Harlem race announcer? He would mispronounce 80% of the names yet he did have more personality than the freakish circus barker semi-pro announcers who were completely out of place in Harlem and NYC for that matter.
anyone know any of the results from prospect?
heard it took hours to get the results sorted..
Anyone know why he was racing on a Fuji and not an over priced peice of shit De Rosa? R&R going with Fuji as a sponsor. Fuji is not very rock & roll…
looked like the same frame that Dominguez was riding
Um, maybe he likes Fuji? Who cares. He beats yur ass on a 30 lb Schwin, so he can ride whatever he wants, or gets from his team. At this point Im sure he will ride just about anything as long as someone else pays for it.
The question was more of why he is the only guy on the team on a Fuji and not a De Rosa. Has nothing do to with his ability or whether Fuji is good or not.
maybe he was acting like a bitch on the bus and they decided to punish him. Maybe Again, who cares? And who on this site is gonna have the real, no doubt tantilizing, answer to your silly question anyway?
slow your caffeinated carboloaded breath son, DeRosa is a no-shit best handmade machine money can buy, if you say “you don’t fight black dudes” your prejudice is no different from saying “I don’t borrow from Sicilians” and if you don’t see the stereotyping then you better start typing here:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/selectatest.html
I thoguth the DJ of the race was solid, upbeat, “Riders Up, Riders Up!”
And I am actually decently imrpessed with the crew on WCSN.
Hopefully somebody submits that photo to SI…Eric with his head pasted into pavement….I mean if you take that photo and tell someone that guy is alright, they wouldn’t believe you
you all know it’s true… the black guys crash more than the white guys
but generally, the black guys have more power/weight ratio than any white guy.
you can’t deny that!
and that’s not racist at ALL, cause i’m black.
and some of them are so well-spoken
I like a LOT as a person, but he’s a bit over the top in his announcing style. Good guy. Was teammates with Tyler Hamilton for awhile, raced at the highest amateur level in Spain, publisher of the Ride magazine.’
I don’t know the black announcer (the youngish guy with minimal hair) but thought he was very solid. Though I couldn’t actually hear what he was saying much – just liked his voice.
Solid, straightforward commentary. I think the woman was a pretty high level racer but can’t remember – was that Jessica Greico?
Comment above about the guy I like a LOT is about Richard Fries, the white announcer.
Dang jft check your eyes check your writing
The racially charged crash statement is just stupid. A persons skill level is the only thing at play when it comes to crashes. Crashiness is an equal opportunity outcome and has nothing to do with race – punchy.
Just because you’re black doesnt give you the card blanche to write statements like that so you should think first and perhaps keep those sort of comment to yourself. Think about it the next time a white guy takes you out perhaps.
Lets just stop here with the whole black white yellow whatever thing. I think 99.9% of readers here know that color doesnt determine predisposition to crash often, look scary, talk good, or any other cycling related thing. Thats just obvious.
We all know its much more about upbringing and nation of origin. Clearly, those Jamaican guys are raised to resent going with the flow while riding in a pack, for example. So obvious. And not racist either!
yeah, I heard they were still sorting the results out at ten, and that by virtue of my inability to devote my day to that I lost several places.
Ok…I’l agree with the hooligans in the prospect races. Most of those dudes just flat out cant ride and more often than not its usually a jamaican rider. thats truth any way you slice it.
COME ON PEOPLE!
Jimmy The Greek has spoken
one guy had about 14 pages of 20 shots per page, literally tons of shots….but I don’t see the link to that. Talking Harlem race…help!
http://www.keirin.us/gallery/010/2008_HS.html
“Gavin (the younger Ricky Lowe look-alike) is also one of the Foundation sketchmasters.”
dumb comment
First of all, he’s not a “Ricky Look-alike” Unless you think they all look the same. And he’s not sketchy either. Aggressive sprinter, maybe, but a good rider.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamvmoore/sets/72157605660230407/
Zui pictures are the ones
all those comments below that stereotype color or ethnicity are very sad in this age, guess you can blame your parents for that, white or black, but at a certain adult age you should realize we are what we say and what we say is color blind, just because you are the color of a rainbow doesn’t mean you don’t sound like a hypocrite with prejudices.
Cadence Floyd Bennet Field
Date: June 17th, 2008
Pro123
Starters: 50
Time: 1:01:36
1. Jermaine Burrowes
make lots of money.
Yeah Jaime!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd
Housatonic top tens here:
http://www.zephyrcycling.com/
Have you seen the suckers from Cat4? They were mopping the streets in all corners! Nice job guys…
Great racing this weekend opted for Houstonic instead of Harlem some great NY performances in CAT 4, colin P winning again, and Metro rode a very smart race for him so congrats and to Matt Richards as well, third I believe.
Harlem sounded like great fun, shame I missed it.
As far as comments its he same old thing people who do not know there own name trying to bash the progress of the sport, most sports do not stand a chance in this country as television does not allow it, unless its great entertainment and glam, and easy to segment with advertising.
Look at football ( soccer to you over here ) probably the largest sport in the world cannot even get a look in over here. They bring in David Beckham for a crazy amount of money to bring awareness , he alone can sell out a stadium but it cannot get onto television.
This country has some amazing athletes but most of them end up going abroad as they get more respect and regonition there, look at Michael Johnson ( probably one of the best athletes to ever grace the track ) went to the UK and even commented about lack of support in USA. The other day a Jamaican broke the 100m world record in NY how many people even heard about it.
In order for cycling to grow it needs to get some major entertainment value as well , Lance did a great job of bringing awareness to sport and the debate of did he dope or not will probably never stop but how many people did he get into sport, I know he got me into it and probably saved my health cause of it.
I respect what Rock racing is doing and aso appreciate the purist view but all depends on if you want the sport to grow, there will be drugs in every sport probably forever, look at baseball for example Barry Bonds in particular.
Are sport is rife with drugs as are most sports and I personally believe that will never stop until the drug testing procedure is cleaned up, the floyd landis case was a joke, whether he was quilty or not the testing procedure and the way the handled it was a joke.
Are sport needs a little hype right now, rather than this elite lycra wearing skinny bunch of guys we are looke upon as right now,
congrats to all those who placed this weekend.
Trimble of Kissena was 3rd, not Richards
Great win by Eric.
Great race to Justin winning Housatonic Pro1-2. He is having a monster year and hopefully will get picked up by a more national level team.
prensky 2nd
trimble 3rd
richards 8th
cuttler 10th
Colin P did not win he was 2nd – still great result.
You guys are so freaking binary. Harlem was great AND Ball is a P.O.S. It doesn’t need to be one or the other. Harlem was a great race for NYC AND there was no reason for Rock to mix in with the action end of the PP races Saturday. It was totally awesome to have TV and exposure AND it’s incredibly lame to be in day-glo lycra wagging a devil hand sign around. All that and Ball’s spin on doping in sports and sexuality in the work place are held over from a few decades ago.
To Phil/Sids:
You comment will go down in history of one of the funniest ever submitted to this site.
Seriously, it is the best dramatic monologue of an ignorant roadie I’ve seen. All the spelling errors, grammatical mistakes, typos and fallacious reasoning come together beautifully.
Great work!
Ha!
Made an effort to bring some newcomers to the crit in Harlem. They left wanting more. The intensity of the P12 race blew them away. Good fun. How could that ever be bad?
Check out this series of pictures from the Harlem Pro 1/2 finish. Look how close Bahati comes to running over Barlevav’s hand at the finish. He must have been shitting lead bricks.
http://www.rockracing.com/press/index.php
49-year old Jamie Nicholson-Leener crushes the women’s field by winning 4 primes and the race. That, no doubt, coming off of her solo victory the day before at Prospect. I can’t stop to think that if a male rider had pulled that off, the comments would be pouring into this site. Give the lady her due. Nice rides, Jamie!
still stand by what I said, just did not have time for my coffee.
Sorry and your name was ?
Ever.
ouch.
congrats to kevin malloy of empire who got 8th in the 17-18yo race at housatonic.
In the Prospect race the 4s were passed by the 5s.
Is this totally okay, or an unspeakable humiliation? Discuss.
Bigger group? More laps? Race the next day? Smarter racing? As it has been stated previously, lots of cat 5s have the fitness of cat 3-4s. They’re just new to racing.
The coverage is really solid…worth spending $5 dollars, and if you are ever in a break or off the front, the camera angles are amazing.
Adler rode a smart race in the Harlem 1-2. All 4 guys rode together and finished strong, considering 1/2 the field DNFed due to multiple pileups and NASCAR speeds with the top sprinters in the nation.
Weren’t those guys a bunch of cat 4’s last year?
Perhaps I’m not smart enough to watch the race, but I can’t get to the coverage at the site. Is the link down?
Cat 5 avg. speed at PP = 26.3mph. 39 minutes. Passed 4s on 4th of 5 laps.
connor sallee won housatonic hills juniors, he soloed it from the start and won by a few minutes.
congrats!
On teh home page, see the squares, click on USA Crut Series (they have a shot of a TT guy – whatever) and then underneath that photo you will see HARLEM with the Video camera. Click on that after you get your set up.
IT IS AMAZING COVERAGE…I MEAN AMAZING
ken harris riding at the back the whole time is smart?
IS the only way to describe the new housatonic course. OUCH.
I would love to see you ride 30mph for one lap, let along 35 laps. go polish your Cervello, cat. 5 wanker…
ken rode at the back, next to the field, the entire race. thats not intelligent. and the avg speed wasnt 30, it was around 28, and it was like 52 laps, not 35.
I like pancakes
perhaps you can use your superior brain power to ride at the front of the Harlem Pro race next year. Which race did you do, smart guy?
Full Housatonic results are up at BikeReg
WCSN have posted 1 minute clips of crashes from Cat 4 and highlights of Cat 4, 3, Masters and women. I just searched for Harlem Criterium.
Didn’t Ugli cause the crash at Harlem? That is not very smart now, is it?
that guy is a 2?
Post your name, you are clueless, Ugli didn’t cause that crash, it was swelling in that corner almost every lap — it was too many guys going into too small a space, and you get crashes in situations like that…I rode for that team yesterday, it was a good time, had a nice support group on the right side of the course with 200MM to go….and it looks like Foundation / Mengoni/ Adler were able to keep the core of their teams in the race…as for the speed, I went to the front of the group for 3/4 of a lap to chase down a 9 man break with Edwin Morel dangling in the middle…let’s just say it was fast enough that when I pulled off and Bahati pulled through I was swarmed and went from the lead to mid pack in 100 yards. And like all crits it ramped up at the end, and while it may feel easy to sit in, it is hard to keep your position in the top 25 which is where you need to be with 10 to go to have a shot at the sprint….I mean it doesn’t take a genius to look at the results and see the names in the top have a tendency to be pros…and those on the DNF list have a tendency to be amatuers….but what do I know….you no name poster probably grabbed a top 15 yesterday in the P/1/2 race so I will keep my mouth shut.
On a side – Thanks to the organizers, and WCSN…that coverage is indeed impressive, very neat.
Ray “Ray Ray” Diaz and Wilson Vasquez both around 40 trading punches with the pros, wow, that was great to see!
Seems to have the goods to ride for a real team. Whats with him riding for Foundation? He can climb and sprint and is young no?
Also much Love to Ugli, who rode hard and made NYC proud, I saw the crash and he didn’t cause it. He rode his heart out, he deserves a lot of credit for that ride.
What’s with the women’s pile up? Looks like someone decided to go diagonal mid-pack.
Will be a pro team next year….that said, Kid who won is 22….usually there are reasons why guys are pros.
Are we allowed to congratulate Conner Sallee for his win in the Junior race at Housatonic?
How about the winner of the Cat 4/5 race, or does that not count? — Adam Zimmerman of Setanta.
By the way, the 4’s at Housatonic went faster than the 3’s.
Seemed like there were more crashes in the Pro race at Harlem than the Cat 4 race. Pulling out of their pedals, running into barricades.
Is a Cat2 now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=liJlayHqKFA
Watching the pro field streak by that little “Sanford and Son” like Harlem Bike repair shop on the north side of the park was classic. Anyone get a pic of that?
winning the 4/5s after crashing in prospect the day before
Adler is the new Empire. Watch out, suckas.
Ugli crashed again? can’t that guy stay upright? He is going to kill himself. Ugli, how do you stay motivated on racing when you crash so much? Most guys get sick of it after a few crashes in a year. You go down all the time and are still fired up. What gives?
Was anyone else nervous that camera LURCHING over the race course was 6 inches from yoru head….I mean the TV coverage and camera work was amazing
http://www.rockracing.com/press/index.php
here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67486719@N00/
Forget the shop, the pic I enjoy most is this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67486719@N00/2416487770/in/set-72157602238557115/
how many times has this ugli guy crashed this season?
Its never his fault, is it?
Probably more crashes because the P12 was doing about 10mph faster through the corners and there were about 3 times as many guys on the course? and Ugly.
haha i think it’s always ugly’s fault, unfortunately.
A big yawn on the Ugli bashing; it’s boring and surely done by 1-2 guys who need a new joke.
Do you guys think my fat Cat 4 stomach would look good hanging out over a pair of low cut Rock jeans? I had such a good time riding with those guys that I’m thinking about getting a pair. They would give me just the image I’m looking for to balance out the fact that I’m a middle age, back office chronic masturbator.
any video posted on teh interwebs? i can’t find it anywhere.
never mind:
http://my.break.com/Content/view.aspx?ContentID=520953
from here on out, let’s make an assumtpion:
anyone that anon bashes someone specific has probably never placed ahead of said person in a race.
also, small dong. anon haters have them.
Prospect Park results?
Bueller?
why are you giving your own name to this race? harlem is not the bronx.
It’s a compilation of from WCNS and some private fans. Including some Manhattan skyscrapers. Adds more flavor
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n8HQ3dJ-6ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_bd5RyaiRg&feature=related
Every category
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=sportsnetwork
comparing crashes in the pros to the crashes in the cat 4’s is like comparing crashed in NASCAR to your everyday fender bender…
pros in auto sports and cycle racing generally crash because they are pusing themselves and their equipment to the absolute limit; sometime physics just pushes back, ie pulling out of a pedal because of sheer force…
the average joe crash, car or bike, is usually because of lack of skill or poor decision making…this is not to bash cat 4’s or say that some among them are not talented, fact of the matter is, that just like junior racers, they don’t yet have all of the skills that they are going to have…
I agree with Jason, the Ugli/Ken/Adler bashing is likely coming from 1-2 people and I have a pretty good idea who it is. Give it up, its lame. It would be one thing if the bashing was witty but the repetitive statements being thrown out there are boring.
were because of poor decisions and lack of skill…That race was easy, and guys were being stupid
The officials should have pulled thosePeddlers Paradise riders from the race. The riders also should have been mature enough to pull themselves. That crash (when they got lapped) was 100% their fault. You have to get up pretty early to be that dumb.
Freddie’s power-slide finish-line crash-avoidance was the move of the day, wonder if he had one of the R&R bike cameras on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJzbW2cLbU
if you spend enough time chatting with pro’s about racing in the pro peloton, you will find them complaining about the same dumb sh*t as the rest of us: sketchy riders, stupid crashes, guys not pulling through. probably the one thing they don’t complain about is sandbagging. its a fact of bike racing, whining, that is.
they bitch more. they wont race in europe if its “too cold”
lets not make assumptions about ken and ulgy’s finishing abilities, because, well, they are relatively unproven beyond a cat 3 race.
we bash them because they don’t wear socks.
housatonic photos?
one thing I can tell you about Ken and Ugly is that they do not wear skirts, as I am quite certain whoever wrote the idiocy below does. can you two please post your Harlem race results here? anonymously, of course. I will be shocked if either of you cracked the top 50 in your categories.
Seem to keep quiet and enjoy racing. And BTW – how many of the local Cat1s and 2s are proven beyond cat 3? Most Cat3s that upgrade do nothing after hitting the next level. Look around and there are 5-10 guys that place in the 1s-2s in NYC. Harris is proven as a Cat2 on the track.
Yeah socks are important…those who don’t wear them are like, terrorists and anti-american.
even tho you sign your posts you are still anonymous. idiot.
that is one brilliant retort. so, how did you do yesterday? this is a bicycle racing website, after all. lay it on us…
i did pretty well! i got paid, even.
so, you must be one of the 20 cat 4’s that managed to stay upright – nicely done my man!
and you must be one members of our cycling community who not only wants to remain anonymous, but also wants to collect all his anonymity under an assumed persona named “Cranky”
you are worse than the real anons!
officials didn’t know who was lapped and who wasn’t-myself and others got a dnf and were not involved in any crashes and were not lapped-wtf-who gives a shit. Great job by the 2 who got away-avoiding all the chuckleheads layig their bikes down-
i’m guessing the ugli bashing is coming from cat 1’s and 2’s also. probably cat 1/2’s he’s taken down in a crash. guy rides with his head down all the time.
how many of you whiny bitches have actually talked to him in real life about this? that’s what i thought. frickin pathetic.
An Adler guy not Harris and not a guy that is not normally on their team who had his gloves inside out.
I suggested he relax (he was tense-armed and pulling on the bars a lot) and he said “I’m trying, dude” which was nice, considering I’d barked at him
I didn’t crash but finished behind him. More accurately I didn’t finish – was dropped due to being too far back and behind a crash, then pulled with 1 lap to go.
Meant to sign my name
If I took as much wind as he does I’d be dropped so fast. Helps him stay out of trouble.
His bike has the words C. UGLIETTA in large block letters on both sides of his frame, near the seat tube, hence the nickname UGLY.
Was it him, or not? Or were you riding blindfolded and didn’t notice?
Move of the day. Freddy avoiding the guy was unbelievable.
yeah. freddy ensured that guy still has a hand.
Get the facts straight before you start accusing Ugli of taking other riders down. He has never taken anyone down in a race. Last year in PP, the sprint misshap where he bear hugged the guy in front of him, he managed to stay upright and did not crash anyone – if you look at the sequence of photos from that day he also did not cause that incident, one of the WS United guys wildly swept from right to left in front of Ugli. At Grant’s Tomb a non racer wandered onto the course and Ugli could not avoid him, ramming into him and shattering his finger – again, neither him nor anyone else actually went down in that incident. Ugli told me about JFT telling him to relax yesterday – he has only done a handfull of races since the Grant’s Tomb race and its understandable that he would be a little tense. I’d like to see how comfortable you would be racing again after completely shattering your finger and having it pinned and in a cast for a month and a half. To all the haters out there – watch out for Ugli when he gets back into shape. This post will probably draw more anon flaming but I have to defend my boy against unfair and BS anon hate. At least I have the balls to post my name
Ugly is Batman
Slokar is Robin
I just noticed
He’s an enthusiastic guy who also happens to be very fast. He’s been involved in things because he’s been in bike races, everyone who’s raced more than 5 times has been involved in some mishap. If you haven’t – you have not raced much.
Chris was knocked down at Harlem, but when I talked to him after the race, he was still thrilled to have been in the race and to have been a part of the day. Not even a trace of the usual “racer’s bitch” afterwards. Hard to not like a guy like that.
lets just make fun of his girlfriend sloker
I find it hard to like anyone around here…
Wait you want us to stop hating on a guy who has a positive attitude, and is a strong rider?
Next you’ll tell us to stop hating on puppies and sunshine. Sunshine sucks, and is a sandbagger! Puppies don’t deserve cat 3 upgrades.
so was the P12 so fast they couldnt get any photos taken or what?
Let’s not forget that Ugly is not only a very fun, all-around good guy but he has faithfully served on the board of the CRCA, has been tremendously helpful with many of the open races in the area, and has generally been a major contributor to the cycling scene
prospect park results??
seems to be a crash magnet, involved directly or indirectly far too many incidents. Sorry to observe it this way, but the shoe fits…
when you expose your ankles like that with no socks, you’re begging to crash and skin it to the bone man.
ugli is a babe magnet
They really can protect your skin and bone.
For sure, for sure, without a doubt.
You should try the 5-boros, there are way fewer crashes there. Actually competitive race walking looks even safer.
http://www.usatfne.org/walk/
JFT, you need to be smart enough to know when people are joking and have the maturity to just let some things go without responding. You don’t need to chime into everything. Please don’t respond to this. Practice
JFT is a flame magnet
lets not get out of control defending Ugli. I’d be amazed if the haters actually know the guy or have raced against him. I have, and I know enough that he’s fast and I don’t mind holding his wheel.
Seriously, if you posted a comment about his riding ability and haven’t raced him, how lame are you?
You just had to respond didn’t you JFT. You just had to respond.
Ugli falls a lot, so you can’t just chalk it up to bad luck. Part of being a good bike racer is knowing your limitations. Ugli doesn’t know his. He shouldn’t have even been in the P/1/2 race.
you find an interesting read about the race titled “I LIED”
forget him. Who cares if he crashes? get over it.
JFT, I only wear full-leather socks, just in case I crash.
Though, there is a reason pro cyclists wear tall socks, besides sponsorship space. You gotta burn through the sock before your burn through your skin, and how far are you sliding?
Ugli has had some bad luck…plain and simple.
Those finish crash photos are worthy of Sport Illustrated.
http://www.keirin.us/gallery/010/2008_HS.html
google blob search hubba what? can you just post a link, dude, im lazy
That sequence of the crash is pretty epic.
The new course is beyond epic, the p/1/2 went up the old finishing climb twice not including a neutral start up the damn thing. It was a major improvement over years past. Congrats to all that finished.
To all those cat 4 riders wondering who the hell it was that won are race by 3.18mins considering are pace car was in front of us the entire bloody race.
We were neutral when masters passed us and controlled by a silver pace car not the pace car we started with mind you and told not to go anywhere, meanwhile are orginal pace car had taken off with a rider to nobodys knowledge in the peloton.
The silver car then was driving in front of us for the next 25 miles with no one attacking because nobody knew anyone was up the road because we had a pace in front of us.
Whoever the idiot was in the silver pace car , get the hell out of the way next time or tell us your not the bloody pace car, you just cost someone the race.
I asked colin where he finished after race, he said first so I said my congrats on good race, colin you must be feeling sick as a dog after hearing someone was ahead.
All I can say is what a bloody mess.
yeah, real crisis, i see it’s on msnbc.com – top story
ugli? i really don’t have that much of a problem with him.
however the foundation guy at the bottom of the 1/2 pileup is a fucking disaster. him and the tall skinny sprinter guy (also foundation) who’s left arm was all bandaged up BEFORE the race (because he crashed in masters earlier???) are in my mind the two biggest risks in the field.
i don’t care if they are the kindest nicest gentlmen in town. they need to chill the fuck out and stop cramming their bike in holes that just aren’t there.
they rode #42 and #46 at harlem. FUCKING DISASTERS.
i just looked them up
glenroy griffeth and josua alexander.
CHILL
I let it slide this morning because you hadn’t had your coffee yet, but Phil? You really need some writing lessons.
Bloody mess, indeed.
http://www.factorydevelopmentteam.com/
I hate to say it…as I am not a hater, but that poster is right…those two guys aren’t so good on their machines, nor is lowe….one of those guys does this stand up and move his upper body way over to the right…was doing it at prospect on saturday, just plain dangerous. And those guys are somewhat notorious for barreling the hill at prospect and then slamming brakes into the sweeping left turn. It is all good as it is racing, and they say, dude has a bandage on his arm stay away … but that last poster has a point. I make a point of getting off those guys wheels.
http://picasaweb.google.com/theronniebravo/HarlemRocks
Saw this linked on NYCC message board.. Nice pics Ron.
phil, we call that the sandbagger’s curse
colin p, i know its nice and warm there but get out of the kiddie pool already
agreed, really liked the course this year. I realize the new finish is more spectator friendly but might suggest at least including some of the old uphill finish.
The fact of the matter is that I went down once while trying to avoid an early pile-up and got caught behind a late crash (didn’t go down) and was pulled with about 1/3 of the remaining field because we were inside of 5 laps.
In any case, it was an excellent day and I had fun!
Cat 4 race was faster than Cat 3 race…
one day you might learn that average speed doesn’t indicate a whole lot, unless it is blistering, which neither were.
That’s Glenroy Griffith.
Don’t know if he crashes much, but he scares me. He tends to just move sideways into people with no hesitation and shots for tiny holes at non-critical moments in the races. He’s got me beat – I’m scared of him and just give him space. Guess I suck for that, but I’m old and a chicken.
that is the guy. JFT has it nailed. he really makes me mad to the point that i want to fight him. and i don’t go picking fights with black dudes.
“and i don’t go picking fights with black dudes.”
What the fuck is that?
I knew some of you guys were weird.
Your vibe is so obvious.
you dont have to pick fights, they take themselves out and walk home all bloodied. Just stay away and let them to it to themselves.
I think they take their handling cues from the van drivers on flatbush.
“they” take themselves out….
I assume you mean sketchy riders, not black people.
Anonymous snark is fine. Anonymous racism is pretty uncool.
Guys, we have been reviewing the photos from the Harlem crit here in Switzerland, and it turns out Ugli’s crit position may not be UCI legal. He has 10 days to arrive in Aigle for a hearing. Also, we hear he is not even a real doctor. So stop calling him Dr. Ugli.
i think he was referring specifically to glenroy griffeth and joshua alexander
they both happen to be black and sketchy.
everyone ease up on the racial sensitivity. we are all made of different colors and sometimes color is used in description. try describing glenroy without it… “tall, skinny, tense, dark hair, foundation..” just doesn’t get the job done.
i’ll qualify this by saying i haven’t been in a fight since i was 9 years of age.
I don’t see anything wrong with avoiding black guys in a fight. mostly they look meaner than white guys. similarly i wouldn’t try to drink a russian under the table or outclimb some little dude from columbia.
Paul-ie
Columbia are you referring to the new Team Columbia? or the country of Colombia? It’s not clear. And you’re racist.
Gavin (the younger Ricky Lowe look-alike) is also one of the Foundation sketchmasters.
no, he means columbia university
Almost all my cocaine come from Columbia.
I thanking them now for sponsor bicycling racing.
How am I going to get motivated to race the remainder of the season coming off Harlem….I mean every race here on out is going to be a let down after racing and seeing myself on teh jumbotron.
Am I the only one who missed the old Harlem race announcer? He would mispronounce 80% of the names yet he did have more personality than the freakish circus barker semi-pro announcers who were completely out of place in Harlem and NYC for that matter.
anyone know any of the results from prospect?
heard it took hours to get the results sorted..
Anyone know why he was racing on a Fuji and not an over priced peice of shit De Rosa? R&R going with Fuji as a sponsor. Fuji is not very rock & roll…
looked like the same frame that Dominguez was riding
Um, maybe he likes Fuji? Who cares. He beats yur ass on a 30 lb Schwin, so he can ride whatever he wants, or gets from his team. At this point Im sure he will ride just about anything as long as someone else pays for it.
The question was more of why he is the only guy on the team on a Fuji and not a De Rosa. Has nothing do to with his ability or whether Fuji is good or not.
maybe he was acting like a bitch on the bus and they decided to punish him. Maybe Again, who cares? And who on this site is gonna have the real, no doubt tantilizing, answer to your silly question anyway?
slow your caffeinated carboloaded breath son, DeRosa is a no-shit best handmade machine money can buy, if you say “you don’t fight black dudes” your prejudice is no different from saying “I don’t borrow from Sicilians” and if you don’t see the stereotyping then you better start typing here:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/selectatest.html
I thoguth the DJ of the race was solid, upbeat, “Riders Up, Riders Up!”
And I am actually decently imrpessed with the crew on WCSN.
Hopefully somebody submits that photo to SI…Eric with his head pasted into pavement….I mean if you take that photo and tell someone that guy is alright, they wouldn’t believe you
you all know it’s true… the black guys crash more than the white guys
but generally, the black guys have more power/weight ratio than any white guy.
you can’t deny that!
and that’s not racist at ALL, cause i’m black.
and some of them are so well-spoken
I like a LOT as a person, but he’s a bit over the top in his announcing style. Good guy. Was teammates with Tyler Hamilton for awhile, raced at the highest amateur level in Spain, publisher of the Ride magazine.’
I don’t know the black announcer (the youngish guy with minimal hair) but thought he was very solid. Though I couldn’t actually hear what he was saying much – just liked his voice.
Solid, straightforward commentary. I think the woman was a pretty high level racer but can’t remember – was that Jessica Greico?
Comment above about the guy I like a LOT is about Richard Fries, the white announcer.
Dang jft check your eyes check your writing
The racially charged crash statement is just stupid. A persons skill level is the only thing at play when it comes to crashes. Crashiness is an equal opportunity outcome and has nothing to do with race – punchy.
Just because you’re black doesnt give you the card blanche to write statements like that so you should think first and perhaps keep those sort of comment to yourself. Think about it the next time a white guy takes you out perhaps.
Lets just stop here with the whole black white yellow whatever thing. I think 99.9% of readers here know that color doesnt determine predisposition to crash often, look scary, talk good, or any other cycling related thing. Thats just obvious.
We all know its much more about upbringing and nation of origin. Clearly, those Jamaican guys are raised to resent going with the flow while riding in a pack, for example. So obvious. And not racist either!
yeah, I heard they were still sorting the results out at ten, and that by virtue of my inability to devote my day to that I lost several places.
Ok…I’l agree with the hooligans in the prospect races. Most of those dudes just flat out cant ride and more often than not its usually a jamaican rider. thats truth any way you slice it.
COME ON PEOPLE!
Jimmy The Greek has spoken
one guy had about 14 pages of 20 shots per page, literally tons of shots….but I don’t see the link to that. Talking Harlem race…help!
http://www.keirin.us/gallery/010/2008_HS.html
“Gavin (the younger Ricky Lowe look-alike) is also one of the Foundation sketchmasters.”
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First of all, he’s not a “Ricky Look-alike” Unless you think they all look the same. And he’s not sketchy either. Aggressive sprinter, maybe, but a good rider.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamvmoore/sets/72157605660230407/
Zui pictures are the ones
all those comments below that stereotype color or ethnicity are very sad in this age, guess you can blame your parents for that, white or black, but at a certain adult age you should realize we are what we say and what we say is color blind, just because you are the color of a rainbow doesn’t mean you don’t sound like a hypocrite with prejudices.
Cadence Floyd Bennet Field
Date: June 17th, 2008
Pro123
Starters: 50
Time: 1:01:36
1. Jermaine Burrowes
make lots of money.