Hangover 10/3/2011

Still racing

Yes there was bike racing this weekend, and I will do me best to suss out what might have happened.

There was a race at FBF on Saturday, and I know that Al Barough of BH/Garneau won the 1/2/3 race, but details about the other races are not available. As always, if you won, use an alias and congratulate yourself. 

At the Storm King Cannibal time trial, David Anthony of BH/Garneau came first, results are here.

At the Pete Senia Memorial in Prospect Park, according to the Spring Series Twitter account, Stephan Dioslaki of Metra/Cycles 54 won the Pro/1/2/3 race, C Marte won the cat 3/4 race, J Zaverdas won the masters race and W Lope won the cat 5 race. The Spring Series twitter feed is here. Photos are here and here.



 

DA  Cannibal, winning Storm King. Photo by Daniel S. Burnstein

111 Comments

Saddlebag

W Lope and a David Jordan rider destroyed the 5 field at PP. Two man break with over 30sec gap on the field. Saw them away for at least 3 laps and they both just cruised across the line.

Eliott Brifter

if cannibal, why aero wheels? electric shifting? power meter? should not be called cannibal with so much 21st century techno…
great ride, as all probably had similar/same equipement…but not a race worthy to be called cannibal…

Daan Helmet

at the very least, no aero wheels. dickish to use them, dickish to let them be used. box rim only.

Invisible Head Badge

He’s 44 y/o or something like that – given the guy a break – its an awesome performance any way you look at it. Beat Bezdek and he’s almost twice his age.

ZIPP

Aero wheels are allowed because almost all rims are aero in some way. Its a fine line to draw. Sometimes they’ll say 30mm or less but thats not perfect because Zipp 101’s (for example) are pretty aero.

Pierre Helmet

Oh I get it! DA the rider likes to ride with DA the gruppo!
DA is the Man! and as long as everyone had similar gear as in the rules, he totally deserves it!
Give that man a Belgian Trapize Artist!!!

Damien Tarmac

look at that thumb placement: perfectly perpendicular to the ground, perfectly parallel in the vertical plane. that there is how you WIN.

seat post

Most cannibal TTs go by what’s mass start legal. That’s the case here.

GMSR allows everything but TT bikes – even disc wheels. Although at this point, even that’s almost moot with the new aero frames.

Benjamin Tubie

Cannibal TT: 28 spokes, drop bars, no aero anything: booties, wheels, frames, skinsuits…
For some, not me, the issue may be that the event called itself Cannibal when the rules of the event are not cannibal…
Kudos to DA for crushing, even smashing, the competition!!!

Maxence Flange

I heard DA used to wow the ladies back in the day with, “Hey baby, I rock the 6 speed Regina CX. Would you like to see my campy head tube reamer?”

Static Load

Put these local riders in age order, youngest to oldest:

Dan Schmalz
Mitch Jacaruso
Greg Olsen
Ken Harris
David Taylor
Andy Shen
DA

Maxence Flange

Jacaruso looks so young thanks to his liberal use of Susan Lucci skin care products. He’s really 58. Total masters age group sandbagger.

Victor Wave Ring

12:07 is right. But its oldest at the top, youngest at the bottom. Baby Olsen keeping it real.

Turd Fergusson

DA beat Bezdek and other Pro/1’s… as a Cat 3. It’s not exactly like the other guys all showed up on fixies. Anyway you can whine all you want but at the end of the day, DA’s win here was pretty frickin badass.

mikeweb

Amazing what the early bird special and bedtime at 9:00 after a rerun of ‘Murder She Wrote’ will do for performance.

Biff Sandwich

Are not always kicking the young guys’ butts. You just hear about it whenever they do because it’s noteworthy. Look at a guy like James Stevens who has torn it up all year. He’s like 26, but you’d never hear something like, “James Stevens beat DA at GMSR and he’s HALF his age!!!”

Biff Sandwich

Did pretty much the best of anyone in the CRCA in just about every race he did, including hanging with the lead group at Univest. The standard for “results” needs to be readjusted when you’re talking racing Pro/1/2 races vs. 3 races.

Charles Housing

…are not always kicking the young guys’ butts. You just hear about it because when it happens they never shut the fuck up.

Victor Wave Ring

The other cat 3 who won this weekend beating out a number of cat 1s and 2s at FBF was Al Barough. (also on BH/Garneau) Nice win there bucko. Now please get some sleep, will ya.

23 year old

I was just walking down the street today, minding my own business and BAM, out of nowhere, DA kicked my ass. Why are the old guys always kicking us young guy’s asses?? WTF

Lenny Clamp

Look at DA’s thighs, the guy is HUGE! Am told by those in the know that the secret to his success on the bike is constant use of Suzanne Somers’s Thighmaster Gold. While he sits at his desk working those massive quads, and while doing so making a face like he’s got diarrhea, the reality is it improves muscle tone and the explosiveness he’s known for in the field.

Victor Wave Ring

Battenkill as a 5 first out of town race. Wins it in solo break
Battenkill as a 4. Wins in solo attack.
Bear mountain as a 4. Wins solo by attacking at base ofnTiaratti
Cap regions as a 3 wins by going solo.
Consistently tting well.

Something just doesn’t add up with this guy.

Marchionne Rim

I remember when DA started at NYVelocity he was a little overweight and showed up on a sweet Pinarello with Zipps. The guy got good coaching from the start, worked his ass off and has a successful career that lets him have all the toys to train harder with. He probably has more carbon wheels at home than your whole team. When you guys are doing the spring series in 30 degrees and starting in the dark he’s putting on suntan lotion for a crit in some exotic locale. Show envy, be jelous even hate him ’cause he’s always going to be faster than you but don’t throw doping accusations so randomly.

ohmysweetbabyjesus

Love Schmalz and Shen, but you morons are the lowest of the low, bunch of gossipy little femme boys.

Dieter Drake

The race is on, yes, of course! We’re happy to have a race for anyone who shows. The course is challenging, the fall colors are creeping in, and the weather is going to be great up here. We are also giving away a bunch of Battenkill stuff to participants: t-shirts, musette bags, other stuff. We’ll be providing Tour of the Battenkill registration coupons to BattenFall racers too.

1 PM starts, so there’s plenty of time for the drive. If you stick around for the Sunday Fall Preview ride on the new Battenkill course and stay at the Cambridge Hotel, then meet me at the bar and I’ll buy you a beer.

Dieter

Dirk Diggler

He’s winning 3/4/5 races — it’s not like the guy is getting signed by a pro team and winning NRC races. Jesus christ

C'mon now

One of the 20 something Cat 1s he beat was 2nd at Tokeneke (cat 1) 8th overall at Catskills (cat 1) and the other was 3rd at Hilltowns (cat1/2). So those dudes can climb for sure – so any doubts aren’t exactly far-fetched

Forese Bearing

Hey here’s a thought: maybe a few of those cat 1’s that got a whoopin’ are now off the season-long vitamin program and now running on normally aspirated horsepower, which is another way of saying perhaps THEY SUCK and really aren’t any better than DA once on a level playing field.

Mike Rotch

This is serious business. Just because a guy (whose numbers I have seen and are not out of line for a cat 3 at all) throws down a good performance is not cause for outright doping accusations. If you are going to make those kinds of statements, you’d better be prepared to back that shit up because that is NOT something to just gossip like a little bitch about.

Ari Schtottle

Then they all quit the junk at the same time, but continue racing just the same.

That is some seriously dumb shit.

Grassy Knoll

Wow you guys are pathetic. It’s not that complicated.

First of all they did not run the tt on storm king. It was damaged so they moved it. New course had a grand total of 350 feet elevation gain over 6 miles. Hardly an uphill tt.

Second, if anything you should be wondering why Aiden Charles got beat by both DA and David Hoyle when he was able to clobber both of them in the very similar GMSR itt. And fwiw DA beat Charles by an even bigger margin at GMSR.

Third, the first 16 minutes out of the gate everyone is fresh. Totally different then the end of 3 or 4 hours of racing. That is really where the differences in the categories show up, especially for the old dudes.

Lorenzo Chainline

I certainly don’t feel/believe/know anything about this guy, but his “legend” must be HUGE!!!

DA RULEZ!!! Laisez les bons temps rulez!!!

DA

Thanks for the comedy this week.

Arguably the most influential person of our life time passed the other day, but this is what you feel inclined to talk about. I’m touched.

Anyway this has been up since last Sat for anyone that cared to look.

http://app.strava.com/rides/1818760#

I’ll be going to the Orchards on Sun morn with some friends if you want to join and share some more of your piercing insights into my racing. 7:30 AM, the church by Grants tomb.

penman phil

do not be shocked if you get your arse kicked by a cat 3 or even cat 5 tt guy, down in New Jersey there are guys that all they do are Time trials and never upgrade from cat 5 but will quite easily have no problem in beating the majority of cat 1 , cat 2 guys around here. I used to get pissed at the cat 5 guys who would always kick my arse and take the prize money every week. I ended up having to upgrade just to stand a chance of winning a bloody race.

Time trials are not a main concern for most riders but for some riders all they do is time trial, DA can time trial well for sure so no big shocker,

Tristan Locknut

The Storm King was pretty much the most poorly organized cycling event I have ever seen in 25 years of racing. Moving the with zero notice to riders is beyond bush league. That is why we have contact information, and this new thing called the internet. PLUS, reducing the entry fee late in the registration process and not crediting the difference to people who registered early is less than ethical. The weather was not cooperative, however the road was closed for other reasons and HAD been for weeks. I live two hours away and I knew there was a problem with the road. First hint: Chain link fences blocking access. Did none of the promoters preview their own course more than 5 minutes before the start? I expect better from one of John’s events

Adam Rubber Hood

It’s kind of crappy, but “less than ethical” is a bit of hyperbole. Plenty of enterprises offer last minute discounts (hotels, airlines, etc etc). You can take a chance and wait, might be full, might not be. Not previewing the course kind of sucks, but isn’t the end of the world. Have you raced an AVD event? Doesn’t sound like this is “the worst,” and you are the first and only complainer I’ve heard.

Noah Ergopower

Another cat 3 rider came 5th, so maybe the gap between 1s, 2s and 3s just aint that huge after all….

Excitable Cat 2

YO DA
I am gonna put the hurt on you tomorrow at the orchards. I am a cat2 and I raced on the west coast. Therefore i am like 257% stronger than you. good luck

Tom Dry Lube

this one time at band camp i stuck a silca frame pump up my asshole and all i got was this stupid t-shirt

Neu

Great reply David. If folks want to see how you ride fast, they can train with you. Of course, anonymous posters don’t deserve any response at all. Pretty much the only posts on this site that are interesting at all have a name attached to it. DA, keep going.

Adam Rubber Hood

“great response?!” Jobs as most influential person?! Get a clue. He was a good businessman/marketer. Geez.

Matteo Dropout

Yeah man, seriously….ya know, I am capable of thinking about and discussing more than one topic per day. So, DA, you had an all Jobs day that day…apparently, since discussing anything else is so distasteful for you. Ah, what a cult it is.

Tom Dry Lube

“Pretty much the only posts on this site that are interesting at all have a name attached to it”

totally the opposite.

Pierre Headset

why was Storm king hwy closed? Is it still closed? a great place for a fall ride, the NY511 site does not mention anything about closure.

Neu

Each to his own Tom, but I couldn’t care much about a provoking comment if their is no name attached. It’s easy to write a lot of crap when you don’t own it.

R. G. Bardjee

yeah but every single comment posted by someone who signs his name is either “if you think i’m doping and/or have some other beef, tell me to my face, not on nyvelocity” or “why don’t you sign your name like a real man”… not interesting.

Matteo Dropout

what comes out with anonymous posts.. people can say what they really feel without repercussions, the truth of what they are thinking….I agree, not much of interest comes out when you sign your name.

Jasper Brifter

Bet all you haterz who suck my ballz feel purty stoopid for defending (blindly!) DA against the pretty-spot-on-if-anonymous allegations that he was doped! D’OH! lol. suckaz!

Benjamin Headbadge

But you do have to hand it to Ted Neu. NOW his non-anonymous post IS more interesting.

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