We will post more pics and stories as they come in today, check back soon for your race.
Mother nature could only manage a few sprinkles to give us the driest Spring Bear in recent memory.
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Garneau/Optix riders came in 1-2 in a time trial yesterday so they figured they would give it another try today and pushed the pace the first time up the hill shattering the field. They opened up a gap quickly with hometown favorite Roger Aspholm, Westwood Velo and Peter Horn, Vitamin Cottage, in tow. Peter was dropped on the second to last lap on the flat. Roger Lavalle, Garneau/Optix was also caught by the field leaving Roger to battle “two guys who weren’t as old as me if you added their ages up” (Roger is 37). They were able to get away from Roger with about 5k to go but when he came in alone for third you would have thought he had won from the response. Fourth place former baby Giro winner Davide Frattini, Colavita/Sutter Home won a sprint between a few other chasers.
1. Phil Cortes Garneau/Optix – Canada
2. David Veillieux Garneau/Optix – Canada
3. Roger Aspholm – Westwood Velo
4. Davide Frattini Colavita/Sutter Home
5 Roger Lavalle Garneau/Optix – Canada
Women 1/2/3
5 women off the front. final sprint separated first 3 by a total of 6 inches.
1. Emma Nelson – Team Advil/Chapstick
2. Heather Labance Team Advil/Chapstick
3. Rebecca Wellons – Gearworks/Spin Arts Cycling
7.Mara Miller – Team Advil/Chapstick
8. Elisa Gagnon Team Advil/Chapstick
10. Becky Koh CRCA/Comedy Central
Cat 3
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22 year old Justin Lindine countered a move on the first lap, found himself all alone and thought ‘what the hell. I’ll give it a try.’ Three laps later he had almost four minutes on the field and in the end over a minute. Pre race favorites Ken Harris and Will Riffelmacher were up to their usual tricks but no one in the field was having any of it as they were watching like hawks ready to pounce on every move. Ken had a crash up the hill on the last lap and it effectivley ended his race, though he finished. Will succeeded in stringing out the field a few times but score one for ‘some other guy’ in the person of Justin Lindine with his first big win as a 3. Probably his last too as he will be upgrading. Hey Basil did we mention he is 22??
Alister Ratcliff and Nathan Coleman sliped away to claim 2nd and 3rd and Armand Della Monica (Blue Ribbon) who we are calling this year’s Matt Howard becasue, 1 we are starting to suspect he is also evil and, 2 the consistent placings, won a hotly contested field sprint by half a wheel over Francisco Liuzzi (Merrill Lynch/Hincapie Sportswear).
1. Justin Lindine Windham Mountain Outfitters
2.Alister Ratcliff – Bethel Cycle
3. Nathan Coleman Johns Hopkins
4. Armand Della Monica – CRCA/Blue Ribbon
5. Francisco Liuzzi CRCA/Merrill Lynch
11. Will Riffelmacher – CRCA/Foundation
Masters 40+
@##=#<2,L>@##=# Buben won by himself. Tony Settel drove the breakaway for several laps but was caught.
1. Dzmitry Buben CCB/Volswagen
2. Doug O’Neill CTS/Cranford Bike
3. Tom McMenamin Somerset Wheelmen
4. John McKone CCB/Volkswagen
5. M. Andrew Ruiz CCB/Volkswagen
7.Thomas Luzio Deno’s Wonder Wheel
8. Troy Kimball Westwood Velo
9. Geoff Bickford CRCA/Axis
Cat 4
Steven Goldman went on a rare long solo break early on but was reeled in by the work of Jonathan Adler, the winner Greg Olsen did as much work as anyone, along with usual suspects O’Malley and Kim Riseth who pushed it up Tiorati.16 y.o. Filip Capala bettered his result of last year’s race by 10 spots and rode very aggressively all race. Pre race favorites Aaron Wolfe, Edgemont, Chris Price and Chris Mecray, NYVC all had bad luck (accident for the first two flat for the last). In the sprint everyone looked for Chris Loudon, CRCA/Visit Britain but Greg Olsen, CRCA/Jonathan Adler Racing pulled off an upset by less than half a wheel in his first big four race.
1. Greg Olsen CRCA/Jonathan Adler Racing
2. Chrsitopher Louden CRCA/Visit Britain
3. Kim Riseth CRCA/Jonahan Adler Racing
4. Lee Brandon Kissena
5. Ben Harris CRCA/Merrill Lynch
6. Chris Shaw CRCA/Nyvelocity
7. Andrew Cohen CRCA/Visit Britain
8. Steven Goldman Westwood Velo
9. Filip Capala – 16 year old junior
10. Rufus Pichler – Kissena
Women Cat 4
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1.Silke Wunderwald Mystic Velo
2.Annie Malouin Tri State Velo
3. Suzanne Tempsick 3D Racing
4. Kat Campbell CRCA/Deutsche Bank
5. Olivia Dillon
6. Kendall Dwyer CRCA/Nyvelocity
7. Elaine Molinaro Team Bikery/Shebell/Shebell
8. Jennifer laPlante CRCA/Radical Media
9.Erin Marie Dyer Champion System Racing
10 Michelle Faurot Connecticutt Coast Cycling
11. Hannah Carrither Watchung Wheelman
CHUMPS
Mrs Paulo and Roger are the coolest!
Also, look at all those DQs!
Men’s P/1/2 time was 20 minutes faster than last year.
or are results in general getting more messed up than in the past….there are guys in the top 20 of cat 3 race that I am most certain didn’t finish at all
Men’s P/1/2 time was 20 minutes faster than last year.
it felt that much faster, not sure about actual finish…
Guys finished who weren’t even in the county.
Cat 4 – 20.4MPH
Cat 3 – 22.6MPH
1/2 – 23MPH
Full results are posted on http://www.crca.net courtesy of JT and on bikereg.com.
Results will be sent into USCF later in the week. JD Bilodeau, the timekeeper, is keeping the tapes to review reported discrepancies until then. Send errors in the results to openracing@crca.net.
There are some errors. I was talking to Pollo as the Pro/1/2 race finished and he placed 39th.
dq’s were for yellow line and riding against traffic on the course after finishing the race. The offiicals position is that they clearly explained this to all riders before the race.
Scot from Metro didn’t finish either.
Some guy, not sure what field, asked me "if we dont finish, do we get a placing?" I didnt understand his question AT ALL. In my book you get a DNF if anything. Also I was surprised by all of the DQ’s, however now that I look back on it, there was a woman at the finish line threatening anyone within earshot of being DQ for rule infractions. Most were people that were done with thier race and wanted to see other field finishes. I even heard her say something to the Cat IV winners, saying "if they rode thier bikes to the finish line tent to get thier purse they’d get DQ’d. It seemed like she was joking but I didnt think it was very funny. She was hardnose!
Did he grow recently? I think 4th through 30th is where it is messed up the most.
Eugene, send me your address for your lovely prize.
Wrt confused placings, while my result was nothing to brag about (with the wave that included Craig Goodstein and Andrew babaian), they have me down as 59th (last reported place). What I think happened is that, after finishing, I rode back to the feedzone to pick up my arm-warmers. Then, when I rode back to the parking area, they must have counted that as my finish. I guess I’m lucky I didn’t get DQ’d.
Not that it matters much but the Cat 4 race time is way off
There was one USCF official, a short woman with long red hair, who seemed to have only one note in her personal symphony: Shrill threat. Too bad she missed out on the fun part of life.
kenny, what time did you have four the cat 4’s?
Slow race, not much competition, tons of strays, no one willing to work hard= easy placements and upgrade points for suboptimal Cat 4 women riders. Sad, sad day at Bear Mountain. Wait until they reach Cat 3- that is when the true talent outshines.
Still a great event, thanks to all.
take it you got an upgrade.
I finished about 10 minutes behind the winning 4’s and my computer had me at 2:47.
6 finishers in the pro 1-2 from crca teams….really?? stick to your beloved park crits, boys.
The DQs were listed as yellow line violations, but that’s not all true. Many were for littering. But since that’s not in the rule book, they got the 3b1.
Were the officials abusing their authority and mis-applying the rules?
I have no idea what Becka is talking about. The Cat 4 women start with the 1/2/3 women. This is far from ideal or even fair and of course they get dropped and spread out and some hang with the 1/2/3. The course is tough and the women who toughed it out deserve credit and respect. Many of the Cat 4 women finished in the middle of the PRo/1/2 field. Again not fair to them, but I hope they had fun participating in the race.
Rick, I had the same thing happen, my computer said 2:48 and I was a little over 10 minutes behind the winner.
ha – not even worth saying….everyone knows….very much overrated.
..or to put it another way:
If the race is run under USCF rules, may the USCF officials augment the rules as they wish?
‘6 finishers in the pro 1-2 from crca teams’
Only 10 CRCA riders were registered and who knows if they all showed up anyways.
By the way how did you do PackPhil?
No thanks, remaining a 2. how about you, a bitter 3/4? 🙂
The Cat 4 race was much faster than last spring – last years winning time was 2:46 or so while the 3rd gruppeto rolled in yesterday at 2:47, 10 minutes behind the winner group.
Filip Capala finished with the winning field but had no chance since he rides junior gears. Try sprinting downhill with a 44/12. Would have loved to see the kid win.
All I have to say is that I had Cat 4’s on my wheel sucking away!
Talk about Disqualifications? Where is an official when you need one? Cat 4 #6-Kendall Dwyer Hand this girl a rule book. Why are CRCA riders so dirty? No respect here. Backing you up 100% Becka.
3B9. Feeding. The passing of food or refreshments to competitors shall be at the discretion of the Chief Referee. Riders may not discard materials that are not biodegradeable; they may pass or throw such material to support personnell in places far away from any bystanders (relegation or disqualification for littering or unauthorized feeding).
it was a great race…..one suggestion, and this is more a suggestion for USCF in general, as it does affect races, i.e. crash at Jiminy in cat 3 400 yards form finish….there should be a little leeway with yellow line rule when passing small packs of riders that have been dropped from back of their pack, and I think in general riders who are off the back of their fields, there needs to be some type of protocol where an oncoming pack of riders can yell, and the protocall is that when a rider hears that they pull WAY over to the right….becuause let’s be honest, a 5 second soft pedal for a rider off the back is not going to hurt their result…but that same rider who is dead set on holding line or worse trying to keep up with the pack coming through, causes accidents, and yellow line violations…and the end of the day for a rider who is in the pack doing nothing wrong….also pet peave, the loud abnoxious honk by the uscf people from the car DOES NO good….at most it scares the f out of people and makes it more sketchy on the road…everyone knows yellow line rule, but also everyone knows that when a rider swerves into you…you’d rather graze over that line then cause a wreck beacuse some person is in a car honking at you to hold the yellow line like it is a cement wall…rules are rules, but common sense in my mind is king….also packs of riders will self regulate, if some guy is riding all day over the yellow and being an idiot, he will get yelled at by fellow riders.
"Riders may not discard materials that are not biodegradeable"
Alberto Blanco (Mengoni) threw away a banana peel. We discussed this with the moto-official, but he didn’t care. DQ.
USCF referees are necessary creations and thankfully welcome at races. But somebody needs to remind them that they do their jobs because they serve the sport, not because they get to go around punishing people. It seemed yesterday that at least one USCF official, and perhaps more, see riders only as unruly 3rd graders in need of a spanking, and not as adults with a vested interest in enjoying themselves, however painful the effort.
Don’t discourage the hard work of a fellow women rider. We forget that all of this is supposed to be fun and healthy. Very inappropriate to voice such opinions. Women have it bad enough having to deal with discrimination in sports, jobs, etc…let’s be kind. Kendall worked hard, did a hell of a job and deserves respect just like every female/male rider who went out there regardless of their performance level!! Clara
thanks for a great race. some day i will finish it !!
i have more reason to hate canada now
I agree with Clara. Let’s be nice. besides no need to stoop to the level of cattyness. that’s what the guys are here for. (joke)
slap Baldwin??
Comedy ladies — "Wheel Sucking Away"…it’s called bike racing ladies, and I wouldn’t worry too much about upgrade points, when they combine your fields 1 trhough 4 that means there are not enough of you for it to matter who is in what category….line up, go around in circles, and try to get to the finish line 1st…that simple…there is no statements on wheel sucking in the USCF handbook, completely legal last time I checked.
THe Hotness gets a top-10 in the women’s field. Just makes me want her more!
to add to the confusion…… my powertap had me finishing in 2:40:37 and i, according to the officials, was back 7 minutes from the front finishers.
you guys complaining about the officials should try being an official at a large race. It is not easy trying to keep track of all the racers when you have guys riding back and forth across the start finish line. Riders were warned to not ride backwards on the course. They could have walked or ridden around the traffic cirlce. It doesn’t help that some riders were abusive towards the officials after they were DQed. Officials make mistakes. If you have a complaint against and official a racer needs to do is take it up with the head official. Put the complaint in writing and hand it to the head official. If the head official is not aware, chances are nothing will change. As far as the yellow line violators are concerned, all the complainers need to remember the course is open to traffic. It is really in your best interest to keep to the right. Is a bike race really worth rising a head on collision with a car or other cyclist? The park is a public space and we need to share it with other users. If the parks department gets enought complaints, they will not allow us to use the park for races.
Is that what you really want? Lastly, if you really think you could do a better job at officiating, why aren’t you an official? There is a shortage of officials in NYC area. Some of the folks you are complaining about traveled a really long distance to work the race.
Again, kudos to Mike and Alan for putting on a great race.
The organization gets better every race.
winning time for Cat 4 was 2:37:20 not 2:47:20.
Race officials can make up rules for a specific event as long as they are announced ahead of time. For the 40+ race, they told us we could litter in the feedzone but no where else. They also told us if we went across the finish line a second time on our bikes, or rode up the finish stretch on our bikes after our event we would be DQ’d.
"Silke Wunderwald"? That cannot be a real name.
JT
For those of you commenting on yellow line, littering, riding backwards, and such; let me put things in perspective. If an official sites you for it and DQ’s you; OK, you lose your place, but you go on to the next race. But if the park authorities catch you doing the same thing, they can (and w/Park Commission WILL) deny us any future permits we apply for to be able to host this race again.
I don’t know about you, but I’d rather have a few riders pissed off at me for getting DQ’d then not being able to have this race again.
Now let me put each type of crime in perspective….
Center line rule; park doesn’t care if you’re going over to avoid a crash or squirrly rider — if someone gets hit by an oncoming car they will be sued to the hilt. If we don’t enforce this to the letter of the law (sometimes we refer to center line as the "Over the Cliff Rule", we aren’t having this race anymore.
Littering; it doesn’t matter to the park if it’s biodegradable or not; litter is litter and the park doesn’t want anyone (including us) to leave garbage behind when we use the park. In addition, it’s subject to a fine anywhere, not just the park. You eat a banana, you stick the peel in your pocket until the end of the race. The only time you get rid of it is if you have someone in the feed zone that can take care of disposing it for you.
Riding backwards — again, even outside of the park it is a traffic violation to ride the wrong way on a one-way road. The park police can ticket you for this. And we get shit for it because as part of the permit we are responsible for the conduct of everyone at the event; riders, officials, marshalls, etc..
If this doesn’t give you the proper view on things, you’re more than happy to join our crew and see what the other side of the fence is like.
In summary, the DQ’s are not issued because it’s wanted, it’s because it’s necessary to keep this race going at Bear. I hate to say this; but if you don’t like it, don’t come race at Bear. Those of us that want to keep this race alive and enjoy the thrill of competition on this course will ultimately thank you for staying home.
THe Hotness gets a top-10 in the women’s field. Just makes me want her more!
can we stop bashing? not funny, not pretty, just plain mean.
First I don’t believe you’re Team Advil. They have more class. Second if you couldn’t drop the Cat 4 rider, you suck. Third, the Cat 4’s are in the same start with the same pace and support cars. They can ride with all the sucky Cat 1 2 or 3’s that they can stay with.
Kendall is hot. No question. And nice. And a good rider, despite some of the bitchy posts this morning. But this post was not about her. The Hotness is Erin Dyer. Please see last year’s Cranky’s.
We don’t make up the rules, we just follow them.
And she rides for Mystic Velo!
Reread my post. There is no objection to rules enforcement. I simply don’t like being screamed at. That’s hardly deserving of an anonymous slap.
I have to say that these reports are very incomplete and don’t describe what really happened on the road. At least two races are know about.
Pro 1,2 and womens’ race.
Women
I don’t know if nobody noticed, or nobody wanted to, but there was Barbara Buenahora in the race who finished 5th. She was racing for ACT. I would like to point out that she was in the race with no team, flatted, chased back, passed the field and all by herself almost caught the break right before the finish. And the best part is: It was her FIRST road race. She is triathlete.
I think that she deserves to be noticed at least
As for the Pro 1,2 I’ll leave it to someone else to tell you what happened.
When were you screamed at? When the women’s field passed you?
Yes. In fact they all screamed at me and I had to go cry. Luckily I had your mom’s phone number from the wall of that truck stop bathroom, so I could call her and get some solace. Seems her rates have gone down since gas prices have gone up. She must be making forty or fifty bucks a day now that she only charges a quarter.
To Baldwin: Grow up or ship out. About time you realized you are an overrated Cat 4 who won a couple of minor bunch sprints – nothing more – bottom of the pile. If you don’t like being shouted at for potentially putting races at risk then just leave. Noone wants you or needs your sort. Your an embarrassment to yourself and your team.
Based on the results, and if the Team Advil Cat 3 Rider post is really from a Team Advil Cat 3 rider, then she didn’t even finish the race. 23 Cat 4 women finished the race.
Trying to channel the positive, look at Zmolik going from winning the 3s last year to sprinting for top 10 in the p-1-2 this year.
yes scott from metro did finish
You ladies want more women to race, but you don’t want to race with anyone who’s new to this while they’re learning. Do you remember when you were just learning?
Lose with grace – and if Kendall was doing something wrong (what was that by the way?), then help her by explaining what she did wrong and help to foster the growth of women cyclists who are out there trying to PARTICIPATE so that we all can get more women’s fields and have more fun doing this.
Kudos to Kendall for hanging on and kicking ass in one of her first races! I’d be willing to be that what may have come across as dirty riding to you was probably just part of her learning process.
The P/1/2/3 field and the 4s started together, had the same pace car, the same wheel car and the same race officials. Thus, it would not be possible for the 4s to avoid drafting off of P/1/2/3 riders. If the fields were started separately then rule 3B5, which forbids outside assistance, would apply. Perhaps you are the ones in need of a rulebook.
The women’s field started together and from what I gathered by talking to the officials was allowed to draft one another. Kendall did nothing wrong except place well, why is she getting harassed and not encouraged? Do we have too many women racers in this area?
Actually, I was shouted at for peeing behind the dumpsters. But…ouch…those words hurt Mike. I’m going to have to be afraid of strangers again because of your yelly typing.
I noticed this and was very impressed.
Is this Barbara Buenahora, the pro tri athlete? If this was her first road race, how is she competing as a Cat 1,2,3?
"I don’t know if nobody noticed, or nobody wanted to, but there was Barbara Buenahora in the race who finished 5th. It was her FIRST road race. She is triathlete.
I think that she deserves to be noticed at least"
To "Team Advil Fellow Rider Cat 3" – who perhaps didn’t even finish and is so proud of her team and statements she won’t print her name.
How hilarious is it that you suggest she get a rule book and wished there were officials there to see your race.
I am brand new to racing and even I know its all fair game in a combined fields race????
Lose some of the anger girl… and maybe more women will race and you’ll have your own private field to ride in or not finish in or whatever.
I think you should step up and apologize like many others have done on this board when they realize what they have said is so off the mark/mean/etc…
Masters race comment
Doug ONeil was the man in the race. He set the pace on all the climbs when I was with him and was the only one of the 3 that attacked early on to last to the finish. He was off the front in a group of 3 for 52 of the 56 miles.
You ladies want more women to race, but you don’t want to race with anyone who’s new to this while they’re learning. Do you remember when you were just learning?
Lose with grace – and if Kendall was doing something wrong (what was that by the way?), then help her by explaining what she did wrong and help to foster the growth of women cyclists who are out there trying to PARTICIPATE so that we all can get more women’s fields and have more fun doing this.
Kudos to Kendall for hanging on and kicking ass in one of her first races! I’d be willing to be that what may have come across as dirty riding to you was probably just part of her learning process.
Does the Dq’s count with USCF as a DNF or DNP or what ?
I am the only Advil rider who is a cat 3 and was at the race, and I did not post any comments until now. What is going on and why would anyone want to post a comment in my name?? I had asthma troubles early on in the race and didn’t finish. In any case, I’m so so proud of my team – way to go girls!!!!! and very confused about why anyone is writing anything in my name….???????
nyvelocity is great except for the garbage that tumbles out in the comments. Sounds like trash talking daytime tv.
Thank you Diana for clarifying that. Someone wrote a while back that the original comment could not have been from you.
Writing anonymously is one thing, using someone else’s identity is really bad and inexcusable behavior.
Combining fields is not ideal and if we can know within a reasonable amount of time that we will have the size fields we got for this race, we will run the women’s fields separately. There is the additional cost for three cars, marshals, and an official. And the additional caravan has more impact on other fields than straggling riders.
Does the Dq’s count with USCF as a DNF or DNP or what ?
We had one Cat 3 in the race, she had an asthma attack and dropped out after 1 lap, 10 minutes down. No one was sucking her wheel. So I doubt the poster was an Advil rider. If it was, the team apologizes.
Honestly does it really matter what USCF counts a DQ as?
Not sure who’s complaining about cat 4’s using our name, but I know it was none of us. We are very supportive to new women racers and are even promoting a women’s only stage race (The Giro del Cielo) that will have a cat 4 only race. The cat 4’s did awesome and kudos to the those that stayed with the cat 1,2 field. As for not racing hard…..I was in a break of 4 women for 3 laps. I know that we raced hard. I thought it was a great race and thank all the promoters!
Conrats to JA, you guys looked great in the 4 race. Also, as I was being dropped the final time up Tiorati, Aaron Wolfe flatted(crashed) and his teammate waited for the wheel change. This is something you do not see in amatuer racing, hats off to that Edgemont rider. It gave me inspiration to pedal at 65rpm, not 45 rpm.
props to the kid who won the 3’s last year and got 10th
this year. Wish I had held your wheel after i attacked
Heads up riding by the Edgemont rider that fell on the sword for the result of thier leader!! Now this is what I like reading about. The team before the individual!
Smokin’ Zmolik!
Cat 3 field results look accurate to me.
Agree that dq or dnf doesn’t matter. No penalty, just no points or placing for the race.
Thanks again to everyone who raced and volunteered. Looked very cool and made me wish I could race.
As a woman racer and reading this board I am not at all surprised of the cattiness. One of the reasons I am giving it up. What ever tactics (if you can call womens racing tactical) someone chooses to use to survive/ win…what ever, then good for them and "Wheel sucking" is a tactic. Why should a rider who is not on a team do any work for a team of 6 or 8.
Everyone should be supportive of everyone. Everyone was a cat 4 once and the rate that womnes cycling is going seperate fields will be a thing of the past.
BETHEL CYCLES,17 year old second place finisher in the 3 race confirms Bethel as a top flight team that races with class and style !
"Not at all surprised" and "unbelievable" don’t really go together — in fact they have sort of opposite meanings. I’m just saying…
JT thats the shortest post ever from you. I’m sure you have a couple of hundred more thoughts on the topic.
The shortest post I’ve written was one word: "No." Second shortest was also one word: "Girls."
Yo JT,
is that true about Bethel Cycle,are they any good?
Please get rid of the comment section to save any chance of keeping a readership comprised of those who love the sport of bike racing over the sport of gossip and ill will.
Get your own site, "save us all".
ohhh. i’ll join in. fuck you petty pip squeak.
One thing I feel I need to add…There’s so much talk of cattiness here, but I have to say that I left the race touched by the kind words and thoughtfulness of the women I encountered on the race course after having an asthma attack. I’ve had a lot of trouble lately, and have come across nothing but incredible kindness from other female racers, as well as the extremely helpful NYC coach who was at Palmer RR. Thank-you!!
Good team, good guys, and allistair is a nice kid and strong rider who made a great move on the last hill a mile from the finish and no one countered it…..clearly after reading these message boards, we should be encouraging riders who ride hard and talk soft…..they are sorely needed, too many guys chirpng and most don;t have the legs to back it up.
We have been listening, and we agree that the postings have gotten out of hand, except Schmalz, who thinks your feeble attempts at baseless accusation and slander are only offensive insofar as they are weak and unimaginative .
So we are going to be making changes to the comment section soon. Stay tuned.
Allistair, comes from great cycling pedigree.His father was a very good pro who raced in europe,and his uncle(his fathers brother)is the current Master 55+ World Champion on the road and Time Trial !!
Bethel Cycle has a very good masters team although I can’t recall any of their names,I see their results all over the place.
In light of "The Editors" comments I fear this maay be my last opporutnity to pulbicly announce (anonymously that is) that Schmalz does indeed enjoy donkey balls.
And Baldwin is a putz.
doesn’t that champion cyclist wolf ride for bethels master team?
hey, i was on fire saturday!!
badgers blood should have been tested.
I will admit, I do love those burro spheres. They are great to dip in hot chocolate! I concur with Baldwin being a putz.
Shouldn’t you all be asleep?
Bridesmail!
Maybe find a way to dump the anonymity aspect of the comments but schmalz is right. the digs are un-imaginitive but I read’em anyway — I wish I could quit chew Nyvc!
had ta get a BrokeBack"BearMtn." ref in there!
wolf is a wannabe pro not a master
Brian Wolf is a Bethel master,not to be confused with Greg Wolf,the wannabe pro. Brian is a great rider who has been racing and placing for years.He has been very good for the sport.
Allistair’s move was well timed and well executed. He rode a smart, patient race and had legs on the last climb when others were spent. I didn’t think he’d be able to hold us off into the headwind, but it turned out to be a classic "15 mph nobody is willing to stick their nose in the wind" type of finish (until the sprint). The solo move worked nicely. If there were 3 or 4 other guys with him, the group would have chased. Hats off to Allistair.
His teamate took 2nd at Jiminy last week and won the NY Cap Region RR last summer. Bethel may not have the numbers (at least they never appear to have lots of guys in the field), but they have a couple of guys who obviously can deliver the goods.
Alan Atwood – – thanks for your continued commitment to the sport.
Badger – – nice job on Saturday.
EMH – – you are still an evil veggie killer.
I looked at the preregistered riders list in our race at Sommerville and Brian Wolf and several of his Bethel teamates will be racing with us !
With all the confusion over timing, would riders be willing to pay more for entry fees if they could get times that were acurate?
This would probably involve also paying a deposit for the transciever on your bike and also being willing to lose your deposit when you don’t return the transponder!
The technology is available, the question is are we all willing to pay for it?
Go back to Australia, foreigner. We don’t need your newfangled ideas.
"would riders be willing to pay more for entry fees if they could get times that were acurate?"
I’m not. I just want a safe fair experience.
To BikeKiwi….transponders make no difference. Fitchburg tried them years ago and they don’t work for a bike race. Math mistakes can be made (as with the cat 4 times), but most of the missing riders are caused by numbers that are placed poorly and ones that are covered. We had numerous instances of numbers crumpled, way up on the back, covered by vests and/or ponytails, and one on the wrong side if my memory serves me right. I don’t care if you have the best cameras money can buy, you won’t get a number if it’s not placed properly. Numbers that go on the side do not go on the back, they go on the side. And the number needs to be positioned on the upper part of the side and not the lower; remember you all are in tuck positions when you finish, so putting it by your chest ain’t gonna work.
Alan – I agree placing your number correctly does wonder for the camera seeing it. But saying transponders don’t work for bike races? The UCI has been using transponders at the Worlds since 1993 and the IOC have been using them since Atlanta in 96′. Maybe a couple of years ago they might not have worked at Fitchburg but I can assure you the system works perfectly. Where you run in to a problem is the human interface side of things.
As far as I’m concerned Bear was a great race. My time was fine and I didn’t get DQ’d. But rather than just bitching about things I’m offering up a possible solution.
transponders for a one day seems a bit over the top. For a stage race, I would consider the shell it out.
i think the honor system is still the best policy.
Let me save you all the hassle and just tell you, Cat 4’s are slow as hell.
I don’t see that times matter for a one-day event. I do think it’s important to get every finsher for a hard even like this — for some of us that’s all we’re going to "get."
Revised times are being posted on bikereg and crca.net
You guys were right, the Cat 4 time was off by 10 minutes and has been corrected.
Everyone who sent me a request for time correction has received an email from JD Bilodeau either explaining the time or correcting it.
Great job by JD.
I’m don’t know about Alan’s experience with transponders at Fitchburg but they have been used effectively at TDF and other races to score intermediate times and field times.
They can help in quickly getting times for the field. If Alan is referring to their ability to determine the race winner, he is correct. They are ineffective and not approved for finish line scoring. The USCF requires NRC races to have a finish line camera, not a video camera and not transponders. Transponders are not a replacement for the camera. Transponders would not have scored the women’s race, decided by a tire length accurately.
For the TDF transponders are used for informational purposes, not official scoring of results. That’s an expensive luxury that we cannot afford.
Kiwi is New Zealand you JACK ASS!!!
His SRM is messed up….looks like JD either got the time spot on seeing as Harris has 2:47.20 or he started it exactly 10 minutes early, or harris used that time from the results for his story……which is it?
My alter-ego Hater is paid to act stupid. It’s called irony.
Also, you should know that Hater hates to be called names. Expect much more venom.
It’s not irony. We EXPECT you to act stupid. D’uh.
Time to move on to another race and another diatribe from some of the bitter minds of local racing.
Thanks to Mike Green for having the stomach to read this crap and continue to respond as if he’s talking to sane adults. Thanks for promoting great races.