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It’s Floyd Time! Not that Floyd – Floyd Bennett Field! FBF starts on next Tuesday. May 1. Who’s ready for the Brooklyn Tour de France? Is it sad for me to look forward to this series of weeknight races so much?
Should we start calling it “Bennett” now? How about the “Field”? We don’t want to get in trouble with Dick Pound.
The guy that won Stage 3 said it was one of hardest he ever did. No embarrassment getting whomped on a stage like that. 110 miles! Check da profile, looks Euro.
separate masters and 4s fields at Floyd but the master’s didn’t muster many. So combining the master 3s who didn’t want to race 123 into the 4s cuts down on too many fields, too small a master’s field.
Yes! I love watching guys get dropped. Or at least reading about it on cyclingnews. It is great to see some guy take a week of work. get his hopes all high and then, pop, off the back like a sack of wet laundry
What is Buttermilk’s problem. Mr. Jones – Are you hoping guys fall off the back of the TVA like a recently upgraded B racer in their first A race?
ToV is only going to get harder. I can’t wait to see who is going to get dropped. If anyone finishes, it will be Mr. Eugene Boronow. That guy is tough as nails.
I was surprised to see so many Mengoni guys come off. I wonder if they had mech. problems.
Yeah, and Epstein looking way strong too considering how hard it is.
Very strong showing for Gavi.
He beat a bunch of pros.
4 more stages left, keep it up.
Basil should be real happy that he picked him up.
Also an aging Mengoni domestique has emerged as the team leader and showed he can climb with the big boys. (lol) Good show Mr. Boronow.
Buttermilk Jones?
10 Andrew Guptil (Colavita-Sutter Home) 2.01
pretty damn good
wow, just checked out the results. there are some serious time gaps going on. must be brutal racing down there.
Hey Empire. Finish your website already. What’s the dizzle dazzle? Your website designer on vacation?
stage 3 results and report
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2007/apr07/virginia07/virginia073
lots of guys got deee-roped
…and for the record, based on my results year-to-date, Id say I could be considered mediocre pack fill. But thanks for asking…
Wow, I can convince people to play in traffic, or at least convince people that I am dumb enough to play in traffic just to up the ante of unnecessary risk. I must be some kind of wheelsucker svengali.
Are you a mediocre sprinter or just pack fill?
let’s call it a wrap, boys, that’ll be the highwater mark for the day. kudos to those of you using irony and sarcasm correctly, you all get a box of rice-a-roni (the san francisco treat) and "Central Park Roubaix – The Home Version" as parting gifts
Dan, I your case, I HIGHLY recommend sarcasm notation. I think I actually believe you.. 🙂
haha – I like Mr 60… touche
Or the Rockleigh Crit series
http://www.rockleighcrit.com/
I totally agree: no more sarcasm.
Whoops.
I enjoy golf, clowns, and unicorn themed drawings on motor vehicles.
I wasn’t being sarcastic. 36th is a very good result for such a young rider in a race like that. He is very good. (not sarcastic)
Re: Empire all in the race. I think Zmolik dropped out of the RR
Big focus by many strong young guns from around the country.
Ok, I call for a moratorium on sarcasm on posts – I just dont give most fellow riders the benefit of the doubt and assume they are being sarcastic when they post something that sounds dumb…Hey, I know these people! If you want to be sarcastic, I suggest you follow the playwright technique recently used by Mr 60 and include (smirking) or something at the end. Sarcasm, which relies heavily on tone and expression, does NOT come across well in writing, ok?
Gavi Epstein was top local in stage 3 finishing 36th, 9 minutes behind the winner. Great race for former Sakonnet rider Andy Guptil finishing 50 secs back in 10th in first group behind breakaway winner. Loehner led Empire finishing 58th with Eugene right behind, both 12 minutes back. Lisban was top local after 2 stages, just 19 seconds back but had a bad day losing 29 minutes in stage 3. On the positive side all of the Empire guys are still in the race.
"Buttermilk Jones"? That is a great sudaneym. Very memerable and funny.
Looks tough. The Empire guys are finishing way down. Stage 3 was 4+ hrs.
That TVA race looks really hard. The big pro teams are not there, it is mostly amatures but looks like some good guys are there. Is it NRC? Looking over the RR results, looks like Gavi is the strongest NYC rider. Sakonnet is representing CRCA well.
That was me. I usually get the sarcasm. I thought your last post was serious. My bad. There are lots of crazy people on this site. And if you watch the things people do in some of the local races, you can’t help but think people are retarded for taking some of the unnecessary risks they take.
To "God dammed X Games generation."
Of course it is dumb…could it possibly be sarcasm. No, that has never been used on an internet post before. Quit being a dumbass and taking thing said in a discussion literally (you’ll save yourself some money on blood pressure drugs). Oh and one more thing, thanks for assuming that I am actually of the X-Games generation, maybe I’ll get carded for beer tonight too, that’ll really make my day.
Floyd is guilty. Accept it. Everything to the contrary is just noise.
Tyler also doped. Chimera-ism is funny, but not a valid legal defense.
Lance doped. It was all but publicly admitted last year when 9 of his frozen samples from 5+ years ago were tested (positive) and matched to him. But his PR/Legal team made it go away. Another violation of an "athlete’s rights".
Pantani doped.
Ullrich doped.
Heras doped.
Basso doped.
Museeuw doped.
Virenque doped.
Brouchard doped
Botero doped.
Riis doped.
Vino doped.
They all dope at one time or another. It’s a fact. Pro cyclists dope. This is not a conspiracy on the part of the people who wish to catch them. The only conspiracy here is on the part of the "pro cycling machine" trying to hide it. You guys who want to believe that Floyd is innocent are cute, but you’re completely blind to reality.
some of those geezer 3’s are pretty strong.
Comfortably Numb
first of all, it’s not a 3/4 field. it’s a 35+ 3 and 4 field. the quality of racing is much higher and much more aggressive with 3’s thrown in. It’s good for the 4’s to mix it up with the 3’s.
Why on earth, when we have at least a thousand Cat 4s in the area, do the FBF promoters ONLY offer a 3/4 field rather than a separate 4 field? Just plain dumb.
Oh yeah lets get it on. who cares how you get there. couse if you’re riding the 34s JJ will beat us all in the sprint. becouse everybody seams to be working for JJ.
everybody knows that he’s a sprinter. but people seam to forget that during the race and chase every brake that they’re not in. so dont complain after every Tuesday about a certain sandbagger
if you cant beat an 80 year old in a 34 race think about it.
and oh yeah I will probably be the first to get drop
Is there a price or prime for that?
good luck to all
and happy racing
The B sample positives don’t look good for Floyd but how could the lab not let Floyd’s people in and how could USADA not show for the tests after reportedly being at the lab the night before.
And then they leak the results.
from the Brooklyn Bridge, straight on Brooklyn Bridge Blvd/Adams, left on Dean, right on Flatbush and then you’ll see the park at Grand Army Plaza.
What is the best way to get out to the Spring series race in Prospect park from Manhattan without a car (train or bike)? What route on the bike? What distance is each lap?
Thank you,
Victor this is a douchbag free zone.
What is the best way to get out to the Spring series race in Prospect park from Manhattan without a car (train or bike)? What route on the bike? What distance is each lap?
Thank you,
with Tony Maisto so he can at least arrest anyone who runs you over.
Thanks everyone. I hope to make it out there.
Hehehehehe……try this. I used this route commuting to and from work, even at night time without night. 😀 Get your behind to Union street in Brooklyn. Take either 3rd or 4th ave. Turn left to Union Street and go straight up until you are at Grand Army Plaze/Prospect park. Go through the park and head to the exit right after the long, down hill section, right before the Temple. Take Coney Island Ave until you reach to Foster Ave. Turn left to Foster. Head straight up until you reach Bedford Ave. Then, turn right and onto Bedford (see the bike lane) until you reach Sheepshead Bay, the end of the bike path. Turn left and go straight until you reach to the entrance of Belt Parkway East. Next to the Belt Parkway entrance there is a bike path (near the parking lots). Get on it and follow it through.
There you go. You just avoided Flatbush and Ocean parkway.
The last section of the ride out on Flatbush, where you cross the belt parkway, seems the most dangerous to me.
And I’m pretty sure that the ride back is much more dangerous once the sun sets. I see too many guys w/o a strong rear light or no light at all. That’s unwise. I wear a light colored top and usually a reflective vest. Plus a rear light.
Strong tires are important at Floyd. But I think a lot of the flats come from stuff the tires pick up on the ride out and not at the race itself. You pick up glass from 10-15 miles of city riding, then it gets ground in. Check your tires before the start to flick stuff out.
The races at Floyd are great
That last post is really dumb. Anyone who would throw caution to the wind just because bike racing is a potentially dangerous sport is a retard. You’re an amateur bike racer. Don’t throw your life/health away just because you like to pretend that riding around in FBF constitutes serious risk taking. God dammed X Games generation.
tour de ephrata, anyone from the City going? I need a place to stay.
Are you all suggesting that battling it out on Flatbush with the crazy unlicenced van drivers, homicidal bus drivers, and generally bad Brooklyn rushhour traffic is potentially dangerous?
Do we race bikes or are we all at the old folks home chewing on gruel and polishing our walkers? We all take unnecessary risks everyday to race, what’s one more?
I don’t think anyone minds people following. And it’s not a team thing either. We’re all just trying to get there in one piece.
another word of advice…ride strong tires & wheels…plenty of glass and debris on the way there and even on the course.
flatbush is the most direct way, although that street scares the crap outta me (heavy traffic). i usually head down bedford to the end (emmory, i think?), take a left and end up on the bike path that runs right beside the field.
a little longer, but probably a bit safer.
Thanks. If end up following any of your groups, I apologize in advance. I don’t like to be one of those annoying people who come up and sit on your wheel.
How tell the difference: grammar, punctuation and coherence.
But still, I’m more than happy to help you learn the English language!
You’re the best!
if you go to Grand Army Plaza in front of Prospect Park around 6 pm you will find plenty of riders going to FBF…you can go straight down Flatbush but if you follow a group they will most likely take a different route with less traffic.
Mr. 60 is funny. Keep it up. (I know, I know: "What, like this?")
No I am!
No Im the real Mister 60
DHR: What do you mean go get one?
Look, like this one?
(cupping balls)
No No, I am the real Mr Sixty.
Mr 60, you know you’ve entered the ranks of folks like Tri Guy when people are imitating you. Better go get yourself a mankini now.
FBF is at the end of Flatbush ave in Brooklyn. So the answer is no you don’t have to drive, though it makes it slightly easier to get back to manhattan afterwards.
What I really meant to say is" I like is a light spank on the bottom while listening to some Nine Inch Nails".
Nice try w/ the impersonation, but everybody knows that Mr. 60 prefers bukakke to Iggy Pop.
Thanks for trying!
Mr. 60 is way to cocky if he is young, and Mr. 60 is anon so his snarky irony is as lost as his limp effort at humor.
Constructive criticism is always welcome!
Thank you!
I have to ask, did you mean to say that I am "too cocky" or where you using "to cocky" as an analogy?
For instance, were you trying to say: "Mr. 60 is to cocky as my mom is to whore?"
Thanks for the clarification!
I’ve never raced at FBF. I’ve heard its fast and safe. Is it hard to get to? Do you have to drive?
I’ve never raced at FBF. I’ve heard its fast and safe. Is it hard to get to? Do you have to drive?
agreed-FBF is hard-looking forward to it.
FBF is just a training race for many, so it is a chance to hang on, try out moves that you wouldn’t want to waste in an out of town race, get dropped off the back because the move you tried failed miserably then shoot the s*** with the guys afterwards. Getting worked up about bad riders or 90% waiting for the sprint. If anything they’re not waiting for a sprint, they’re hanging on for a hard workout but not really there to race.
dumbass:
mr 60 is young
JJ is old
when mr 60 says he was a lot like JJ when he was younger he is being ironic, since he is in fact younger than JJ but not as fast. he is not patting himself on the back.
in my youth i wus like tinker bell meets kate moss. and im a dude.
Thanks for the compliment anonymous! Why, Yes! Mr. 60 will go right ahead and pat himself on the back!
(patting)
TH – exactly! – most people use the race for hard training, and it makes it a hard race, which is why its such a cool way to spend a tue evening instead of a solo hard workout!
i’ve only raced FBF a few times, but i seem to remember quite a few attacks and breaks. in fact, i would bet that most people aren’t waiting for the sprint…it’s just that they’re so worn out that the only thing they can do is hang on. i find racing at FBF quite hard.
90% wait for sprint? – Im not sure I agree totally with that, frankly, but even if true, how is it any different from any other race in the region? Im my experience, its about the same, only faster most days than a typical race with regular periods of a strung-out field. If you read the post-race commentary, you will see that actually several teams usually are trying out multiple attacks etc, which is more than can be said of many 3-4 races. OK, Im actually sure I dont agree with you… Yeah, in the end everybody tries to sprint – shocker! – not sure how that is bad either – imagine a race where only 5 "real sprinter" guys make the effort in the end! What a bore…
Mr. 60 is apparently not shy about self-congratulation either. Even in the third person you sound stupid patting yourself on the back.
I second that, shaw.
Mr. 60 was a lot like JJ when he was younger.
Ahh, youth.
I’m attacking until I’m in a break or I get dropped. Yeah dropped at Floyd, there I said it. Better than finishing 15th in a a pack sprint I have no shot of winning.
90% of the 3/4 guys at Floyd just wait for the sprint. And 88% of them can’t sprint.
what’s sad are people who have nothing they love to do
Screw you Mr. 60!
He is 50+ and still you bitch about him. Wipe the sand out of your puss, train and maybe you can beat him. Otherwise shut up!!
ahhh… anonymity
i’m sure JJ still can outsprint the 3/4’s. i remember rufus and i off the front hammering (ok rufus was hammering, i was sucking) for a prime at FBF. i thought we were clear and then suddenly JJ comes by sprinting just dusting us. i was impressed.
That Balanuez character is skecthy too, and he tends to ride at the front.
What then?
Agreed – the finishing climb can take nearly as much time as the rest of the course – save something for the climb and have a set up where you’re comfortable climbing hard.
Ride at the front and dreadlocked ass is not a problem for you.
Last year’s 3-4 winner?
Whose wheel will he attach himself to now that Dimitri is an under 35 three?
Maybe you can tell him? Someone is busy on Tuesdays.
Yes it is sad.
but i’ll be there anyway…
anyone who has done this race have an opinion on whether a road bike with clip ons or a heavier TT bike makes the most sense on the time trial which is 4 miles flat and 4 more miles of climbing?
Light bike, aero helmet, bars and front wheel.
Hey, its Brooklyn – "FuggetaBoudit Field"
The Field Presented by Floyd Bennett
L’Equipe: FBF B-samples contain synthetic testosterone.
Some guys from the NYC area know Floyd and asked him if it’d be cool to call Floyd Floyd. Floyd was cool with Floyd.
Can someone tell the dreadlocked guy in the 3-4 (really skinny tallish one) to not ride like an ass this year? That guy is just scary – remember when he crashed himself once a year ago? SKETCH.