All winners are suspected of doping, Dopers are very careful when using and hiding paraphernalia and process but there is always a trace. It is hard to find out that your close friend is in to something and you (the real idiot) don’t notice. DA was far from a nice guy, Dan is a nice guy, Andy is a nice guy, DA, a nice guy? for the idiots.

It is my belief that DA (and the many others – doped or not) who find racing and results as the only motivation to ride are misguided. People should be intrisically motivated for their own health and enjoyment … racing/results should be a bonus (if that is what you like). I log 12,000-13,000 hard (and clean) miles a year and gave up my bib# years ago. I know the riders at Cat. 5-3 (and a few 2s) I can and cannot beat from my time on the road … it doesn’t really matter in the bigger scheme of life. Ride for the enjoyment and, if that fades, move onto something else that does give you enjoyment. Be safe out there …

can i have your left over supply?

As someone who placed just behind (and somewhat further behind) DA in many, many races — and felt guilty for having suspicions that his performance may have been too good to be true — all I can say is that he is just a prick.

i really like DA, so this is totally a shame. the sport pushes us to the brink of insanity, and sometimes past it… but that doesn’t make this ok. its great that DA has friends that will support him through these tough times, but in the end it was his mistake, and his cross to bear. really disappointing. i only wonder what the reaction would be if it had been a dominican kid… i don’t picture an outpouring of support.

dopers suck.

i’m doing this ride in the fall. can i have your supply?

I believe Andrew McGee finished 2nd at Battenkill and is jumping to DA’s support??? If I was ever in a position to be that close to winning Battenkill only to find out I lost to a doper, I would be rip shit! I like DA and he is a good person, but this is totally fucked and I offer no sympathy.

As a friend of DA’s, I’m not sure how to feel about this just yet. I am keeping myself anonymous because I don’t want to make any snap judgments just yet. I need to let this set in and then see how I feel about it. But, I do feel the need to say to all those who would immediately bury him that, it’s really easy to point fingers at a stranger. Think if this was a very close friend of yours — not just someone you knew or had raced with a few times, but truly a close close friend. The lines of “Cast Him Aside as a Pariah” are incredibly blurred.

Death sentence for BH.

I dont support what he did but I support him as a person. He has to live with his mistakes.

for all of you who know this guys I am sure you all are shocked and I appreciate your support of him – I noticed though that he didn’t apologize to his fellow competitors – the ones who competed within the rules and who – like myself – struggle to understand why we don’t perform better in races – why we always seem to be suffering while others take preems and prizes and places every week – i recognize my own limitations and don;t blame local armature EPO use for my mid-pack career – but I do know that racing is a bit less fun for us when guys like this crush us week in and week out – truly disappointed (unless this is a joke then, in the immortal words of Rosanne Rosannna Danna – Never mind)

DA is a good guy. We all make mistakes. We race for fun. Get back into racing soon – clean.

“I was using ways to improve my performance that were cheating”

Yeah, you weren’t cheating you were ‘using ways’

If you are willing to cheat yourself who WON’T you cheat?

doesn’t work Andy

Andy, FB link does not work.

Pathetic but at least he didnt crash out another rider on purpose.

What about the people who are close to DA that have also suddenly started doing well over the past 12-18 months? Who’s testing them?

Make this a witch hunt or a race war, shall we?

Damn. On a huh, positive note, I feel a little better about my limitations as not too long ago, DA was only marginally faster than me if at all. I always liked him personally and wish him well.

My CAPTCHA: Who does not belong in the list: Contador, Schleck or Armstrong?: *

Well, I guess the stuff really works…

As a friend of DA’s as well as a competitor of his, I’m extremely disappointed and sad. Of course I feel cheated and yes I feel concern for a friend who was obviously off the rails, trying to fulfill some kind of personal emptiness. I’m bummed a friend – or anyone – would feel things that would lead them down a road that has led to public humiliation and surely some lost friends. But also, based on this statement, I don’t see evidence that DA fully understands how he has hurt other people — especially his friends and teammates, some of whom, as you can already see from these comments, are going to unjustly face suspicions because of DA’s actions. I hope as DA works through the myriad issues that led him to cheat, he’ll fully realize the mess he has created not just fot himself but for other good people (like Andy) who don’t cheat, who are fair and decent people and who respect others. Yes they deserved better, but they also deserve a sincere apology.

Also, kudos to Andy for his transparency in dealing with what must be a very painful episode.

Dude admitted he cheated AFTER he got caught? Brilliant example of integrity…

DA saying he’s not ever racing again. He also never admitted he did anything wrong UNTIL he popped. I did read his statement, it was nice and all, but everyone has short memories. Cheating in Central Park…really?

I think that DA should write the sequel to The Doper Next Door. I’d buy it!

he shoud name names

Andy – I really appreciate your candor. Hang in there. It cracks me up that over the hill fat guys would cheat. Whether I win or lose, its fine, all y’all dopers are just cheating yourselves.

This is going to do wonders for his Klout score

We should have a panel discussion where all the local dopers get together and take questions. Pulla, Jared, DA, Lisban, and Papp to start. After stealing our results, it’s the least they can do. Door take goes toward some random testing.

I expect a Toto this week with caricatures of Dan & Andy plotting with Fabiani on how they spin the DA doping news. Nobody complaining on here should go to CacheCache this week.

Who is DA’s coach? How can the coach not raise an eyebrow to his improvements?

This is back-to-back years that CRCA has had someone test positive for juicing as an amateur, and this is the third year in a row that someone in NYC has. Maybe CRCA should add a line to the rider agreement when you join the club that you agree to pay a $5,000 fine to the club if you’re suspended by the USCF and have the money go towards Junior development along with anti-doping education.

This is a problem that seems to be almost endemic to NYC bike-racing and the rest of the country are shaking their heads and mocking us.

Like DA there are a lot of MASters and Cat 3 that obviously are doping with big stuff. We often look the other way, but cycling is a sport of timing, genes and consistency, the developing takes 3-4 years to start placing. DA was attacking all the time,CLimbing like a Colombian. Often he was moody in the peloton and his accelaration were not normal for someone at that level without an elite experience. Some cyclist come back and kick ass cause there have been in pro level and their bodies are used to the pain and performace. as a begginner it was obvious that Da was in to many stuff. Everyone have a list of people in their mind that dope in the NYC scene, even Joe Papps had a list. I will keep on sucking,getting dropped and giving up in the sprint, but clean.

Well if it takes about 30 seconds to source it online, cheaters gonna cheat. USADA just needs to test more.

http://www.24hoursppc.biz/products/epo_erythropoietin/

I left racing because of this crap. He is not the only Master Blaster on the juice, they know they can get away with it cause there are no controls at most masters races. It is just sad that people who should know better are doing it.

I posted a while back that this sport was really in the sewer and is an anchor on so many racers from cat5 – the pros (takes away from positive personal relationships and life experiences). Not many good stories these days with respect to road racing.

I dont have much to say about this DA guy (btw most of this cites’ readers use to drool over)… I do have this to say, for every DA there is the local Cat 3 and 4 who races year in and year out, finishes mid pack and never wins a race – these are the racers I love and will always have respect for. They train hard and race for the love of simply being with friends and riding a bike.

Doping in your 40s to win a Cat3 race is beyond sad.

The only thing dumber than doping to to win a Masters race is actually thinking that Masters racing matters.

First off he is only sorry because he got caught. If this weren’t the case he would have come clean as he crossed the line.
Second I cannot comprehend or justify the reasons for using PEDs (especially those that can kill you) at such a low amateur level. You can say you are obsessed (as many of us are) but dude, c’mon you are a Cat 3, you are 45 and you’re not going anywhere.

No support for DA from this local cat3, yes I knew him, chatted with him and raced against him many times over the last few years.
I don’t care how nice he is, his lying, stealing, cheat.
For his sake I hope he doesn’t return to racing because if he does it will be a very unpleasant experience for him.

DA has destroyed that which he most adored, his “place” in local cycling and his ability to ride, train and race with good people.

He will never be welcome or trusted again in most circles.

That should be it’s own punishment, but I’d like to see him return his winnings.

Where there is smoke there is fire; we can’t pretend he is the only one; he is just the most recent one who is dumb enough to get caught.

There are others and they continue to train and race with us… so if you are doing well and clean then most people suspect you of cheating because of guys like DA.

DA has stolen more than winnings from his competitors. Has has eroded our trust in each other, diminished our sense of satisfaction from hard-fought results and set an unrealistic image of “how” to win.

I would gladly pay extra registration fees to support testing.

As for the “I acted alone” bullshit, nobody is listening. Tell the truth or get lost.

Andy’s convenient moralizing is more pathetic than DA’s doping

I have known David since childhood. We used to race our friends for money. He always wanted to take it to another level, for the cash. He is very driven. He considered the vapors from model glue as a potential performance enhancer. We had experience with the effects from building model planes, a weird high. I just laughed but to my astonishment he began beating everyone. He made enough money that summer to buy a brand new Bianchi Super Corsa. True story.

master’s racing should be about enjoying the competition. I don’t understand these old guys who act like winning the tomato festival criterium really matters.

I’ve nothing particularly insightful to note but just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of boos. taking PEDs to win amateur races is pathetic and fucked. There’s no excuse.

admitting that we have such a problem with drugs that we need testing at utterly meaningless local events is an appalling indictment of the NYC racing scene. So you have to think – do i want to be a part of an AMATEUR sport (a hobby for fuck’s sake) in which the participants have to be tested for PEDs?

But he is an asshole.

Don’t come back to racing, DA, you are not welcome. Neither are the other thieves just like you.

I figured when I first saw the headline, maybe he had sudafed or too much caffeine in his system, not actual EPO! For an aging Cat 3?!? To illegally order the shit online? You’re actually sick.

You sick asshole, DA.

Kudos to no fucking one! This site and the related pool of competitors is filthy!

I heard DA wrestled a bear into submission, then put him on his back, and still won Battenkill. True story.

When do we start speculating on who the other positive was?

Sweet, this means i just got bumped to top 50 in my last race. I feel like Andy Schleck inheriting the ’10 TDF. Winning!

How is it so incredibly expensive to test racers? I would sincerely like someone to break it down. If you want the prize money take a test. Test the winner of each category and one other randomly drawn person in each category. If you’re not willing to get tested then don’t race. The DA situation is disappointing. However, I have strong suspicions about more than one racer in the NYC area.

Who is the other?

There are a surprising number of comments offering support of DA. Why? For those of us that don’t know this guy, what he did for the NYC cycling community or for the sport that would offset this embarrassment? From an outside perspective (having never met him), there is no other way to describe this than pathetic. A Cat 3 Masters racer doping with EPO and getting busted at a Gran Fondo is stranger than fiction. Given the aformentioned fact pattern I can’t help but think this guy was anything but a massive douche.

Mats @ 6:41pm

Testing is incredibly expensive because that’s the perfect excuse to allow it to flourish. Wiesel and Armstrong among other sit on the Board of Directors over at USAC. USAC won’t subsidize it because they embrace it.

Some of you whine about entry fees for the Tomato Festival criterium. Best case scenario, you get to whine about another $5 added on to pretend USAC wants to catch anyone cheating.

How about flipping it back onto the doper? Get a positive, cough up $25,0000 to fund anti-doping. Most of you idi0ts have that kind of money in gear (carbon wheels, carbon TT bike, carbon road bike) alone.

Taking some shit off the internet and then administering it based on what you read on some web page is beyond retarded. The guy is lucky he didn’t die. What a tool..

DA was a CAT 2 rider not CAT 3.

Like saying your “friend” was always a nice standup guy while sleeping with your wife… How can you support that.

He lied, stole and shit on a sport/hobby that many love. His cheating is worse than a pros’ b/c it is all about ego and takes away from the sport at the most pure level….

Chodoroff doped with EPO as a cat 3 and made it to a pro team

DA is sorry only because he got caught. This is not the USPS/Disco team of Lance Armstrong where doping was tolerated and excused. This is a different era with zero tolerance.
The only thing good about this situation is that DA is not prolonging the pain he’s brought to his teammates but rather he has accepted responsibility.
He should be banned for life.
His teammates are the ones paying the price as well as the reputation of a sport so desperately trying to redeem itself.
Andy, as to your postscript…..how would you have caught it sooner? You can’t accuse even the obvious.
The solution? Pecuniary fines. Have anyone racing sign a contract that should they test positive, they will pay a whopping sum to the team. That should act as an incentive to not dope and not to just not get caught doping.

I appreciate DA’s commitment to the game regardless of his position in the grand scheme peloton.
Maybe a more positive point of view for you sore losers?

Seriously though.
Andy Shen, massive respect for being out in the open on the one keeping the dialogue open and confronting the issue in the most mature way possible. Flawless.

This is why cycling culture is as fu(ked up as it currently is. When it hits this close, people begin to question how prevalent it is. For the sick and selfish fucks who are on the fence, this only gives them more (false) justification to take that plunge. The terrible thing is that this asshole getting caught will probably INCREASE the prevalence of doping unless an example is made. Thanks DA.

I blame his sponsors, family, and everyone he trained with. i hope they take his company away from him, and he is banned forever. what a joke. there are likely so many more dopers out there…..

AB TO DA FU
Let this be a lesson to all of us (over 40), if your over fourty and still aren’t racing masters,still trying to be a Cat 1, doper!

Cycling is such a strange sport. It can be so compelling and beautiful at all levels, but can make a rider sacrifice so much, and turn himself into exactly the opposite of what he strives so hard to be. Rather than becoming an honorable, hard working, deserving, winner, he becomes a cheating, despised, loser, who brings disgrace to himself, his team, his family name and the whole concept of amateur sport.

So if you are over 40 and win (or do well in) races, you probably dope. Further doping evidence is if you race on carbon bike/wheels. Additional doping signs is a $300/mo coach. Also, if you have a sucessful business or are a banker, there is almost irefutable proof of doping. And, now for the coup de gras, the icing on the cake, the big whammy if you will….. If you are an over 40 Dominican investment banker with carbon bike/wheels and a $300/mo coach that wins Cat 3 or above races, you dont need to be tested! Save the $650! You are already guilty!!

I prefer MDMA to EPO

He dropped me in the break — doper
He yelled at me in the race (shows anger) — doper
He speaks with an accent — doper
He upgraded to Cat 3 in less than 2 seasons — doper
He is over 35 and doesn’t race Masters — doper
He beat Scott Savory in a FBF race once — doper
He has big calvs — doper
Watch out dopers, Vincent knows who YOU are.

Why are you giving Foundation flak here? Euris and Rafael both passed USADA tests last year. For what it’s worth, Bunde passed one as well.

I helped your wife cheat on her tax return.

Overcharged her for it too.

Don’t we already sign that when we get our license? Besides, what he did was illegal, the honor system is out the window, he already thumbed his nose at that

how else do you explain two positive tests in the past 12 months in the club. can’t believe it took a fred ride to actually catch the second one.

Sorry guys, but internal, team-administered doping controls are not even remotely going to change anything. BH (and all the other teams) should save that money for some real testing. How much could a few dope tests cost? Is CRCA going to respond to this?

” took a fred ride.”

As if park races are not in the world of competitive cycling. You have much to learn

” absurd, laughable ”

it is without doubt absurd and laughable that a middle-aged man would take drugs to win bike races.

My suggestion is that if a team has enough money to fly riders to NRC races, they have enough money to hire USADA. Those teams which have lost the benefit of doubt by hiring dopers, or worse, giving dopers back their old spots, ought to do the rest of us the favor of skipping a start and making up for their lack of due diligence with some testing by hire. They should do this for their own credibility.

Think the question we should be trying to answer is why testing is so expensive. It certainly can’t be the labor involved that is driving the costs. The cost to conduct local amateur testing on a regular basis sounds prohibitive, so I’m sure no-one is making any profits from it – as it rarely if ever happens. Maybe USADA should view amateur testing as a potential source of revenue and lower the costs sufficiently to permit local organizers to comfortably test everyone who podiums plus a couple of random tests within the field…..make it cheap enough that testing can be done at all races. Basically treat it like a business – make a profit and invest the money back into cycling. Win win for everyone.

Ken, don’t be a hypocrite. What do you mean by “taking on sketchy riders”? If you’re going to hold teams accountable then every single one of us is accountable because no two of us are separated by more than one degree of association in our little niche. If people are already passing tests what is a team supposed to do? One could easily say you’re a “sketchy rider” because your power output is too high, and I sincerely hope none of your kids ever come up positive. What would you say then? The accurate explanation (rather than accusing others of playing Sergeant Schultz) is that good teams look for fast guys – the pool of which is more likely to include the juiced. Having said that, I agree that the threat of random tests at races will go a long way around here.

I hardly have time to train, much less take drugs….and as a very mediocre cat 3 I don’t feel personally cheated by dopers since I’m not coming in 2nd or 3rd anyway. But what does bother me is the damage that it does to what is otherwise an unbelievably beautiful and poetic sport….the perception that competitive cyclists are doped up psychopaths. Obviously there’s some truth to it. It is very damaging, we have enough p.r. problems with the community at large as it is.

for that reason i’m all for random testing even at local races, even if it costs money.

This thread is way more interesting that the Tour was.

B Kevlar,

They dish it out, they have to take it. If they suspected they should have questioned, considering their stance.

Ken, I think you’re right about teams instituting testing if a rider is caught doping. But a broader effort is also needed. Doping among those we compete against takes the fun out of the sport, and people engaging in such insidious behavior should be outed and ostracized from, and deterred from participating in, bike racing as much as possible. Given the number of positives on what appears to be an extremely limited sample of NYC area riders tested in the past year or so, the racing community should seriously consider testing generally and randomly at amateur level events in the area. I hope the CRCA and other racing clubs/organizers in the area can pool efforts and fund a program, so that it’s broad-based and random, with nowhere to hide. I’d pay extra race fees to fund it and gladly pee in a cup when asked. While we can’t eradicate doping completely, we need to do something.

“So while this is an awful day, it doesn’t sting in that way.”

Andy you are full of crap. You should be ashamed of what is pointing to a twisted NYC scene and especially your teammate. Your opinion as someone who lambasts the well known dopers from the era of pro dopers is now MOOT.

A lot of people are talking about DA’s integrity here. Whatever with that… What I want to see is you having some integrity and shut up about past pro doping 100% from here on out.

And to the the limited audience out there that you have. You all should now mentally put the asterisk there ( “oh he’s from that team that had the Cat3 Masters doper.” )with every tweet, every comic, every article.

Oh please. David Anthony did 3/4 races because he’d get spanked by the masters or in the 1,2,3 races. The guy had some nice results but all the best riders in the region train their asses off. For the way folks fawned over him one would think he was actually good, but the truth is he was pretty mediocre.

‘There’s two pages of comments. I never knew the site had that functionality.’

Decent people are sick of cheats in an uncertain decade.

Instead of testing, maybe a team like BH should look at how they recruit. By just targeting the best guys from every other team, you probably expose yourself to guys more likely to dope and you don’t know them as well. Taking the best guys from NYVC, FGX, Rockstar, Teany, Kissena, BVF in hopes of building a “dominant” NYC park team just sets you up for an issue like this (let’s not even talk about how that as a goal is stupid). That’s what Foundation does, that’s what AXA does, and that’s what Mengoni does. And it got BH the same results as those teams.

In response to this:

“Given the number of positives on what appears to be an extremely limited sample of NYC area riders tested in the past year or so, the racing community should seriously consider testing generally and randomly at amateur level events in the area.”

This isn’t a statistics problem. USADA generally only tests when there’s a targeted person based on information (ex: Lisban, masters racers in CO). It’s a lot simpler than random testing. Test the people who win and/or dominate races. Pretty simple, lets not over complicate things. What’s the point of randomly testing some recreational weekend warrior who hardly trains, races a couple laps on the weekend and is packfill? That’s a waste of money, resources and people’s time. Targeted testing is a better solution. An unbelievable performance? Prove it. Simple. We see it happen all the time and it’s almost always done by the winner.

It’s hard not to see the rise of Masters-level doping (and it is rising) as another symptom of the disposable-income syndrome which is becoming epidemic in the sport. Middle agers with something to prove are going out and buying every advantage imaginable — races these days are rampant with $7K frames and $2K wheels and pack fodder downloading watts/per/kilo to $250 per month coaches. Winter training camps, altitude kits, aero testing – it’s all available to the lowest rank amateurs if they’re willing to pay, and while most of them would never ever dope, it’s not impossible to see how a taboo next step (pharmaceuticals) can become another rationalization in the purchasing of speed.

What’s missing (and what infuriates older racers) is the sense of doing it the right way, slowly, leaning from others, and earning your place. Dingbats and dopers have always been around the sport, that’s for sure, but today there’s a sense of entitlement and impatience that has gotten really dumb. Bike and fitness mags are full of corner-cutting advice and expensive gimmicks and what’s getting lost in the rush to spend $$ and win is the joy of riding. That’s what it’s supposed to be all about. Bike racing is nobody’s job, not at this level. Ride your bike with honor, because really, what’s the point?

Many good comments here, but when written anonymously, they carry no weight once one turns away from the keyboard – how many posters here will be at Charlie training race tonight?
How many will look around to speak up the way we do on this forum?
Dan S won FBF masters, did he dope? no – Tony Maisto won masters FBF series did he dope? No. USADA and USACycling cannot police our local NYC race community. However, we could watch out for our own.
Ken H (WW team)

DA has too big of an ego to read this now. If you’re a member of CRCA, you can log in and get his email address and write to him directly. You can even use your spam address and keep it anonymous.
DA needs to know what we think of him now.

Bike racing in general just needds to go ahead and have two separate classes…. “Stock” and “Modified”

white boy, white boy, white boy,
whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

Having been around the cycling community for 25 years, i’ve seen various people dope in various ways. EPO has only been around for the last 15 years or so. When I was a cat 1 there were people doping in order to try to get pro contracts. I was already a masters rider and what I wanted was to have a career of some kind, so racing was already secondary. I can see the lure of it at the top end, but we hope that in the Masters we ride and race for our own reasons, for reasons of pride, for reasons of friendship, and in order to fight off the coming spare-tire-of-death. I do think that a permanent lifetime ban should be the penalty for any doping offense, and that no prizes should be offered in any masters race – i mean come on, we do it for fun, as a hobby! – Morgan

oh, Mike G – so is that why Dieter doesn’t pay out?

by the way, this captcha thing is so cryptic, i have no idea what i’m supposed to say half the time

it’s not dangerous how he put the stuff in his system – the stuff he put in could have very easily been poisonous – crazy risk is all im saying

Jacopo Swage
subcutaneous injections of EPO are hardly dangerous, unless you do way too much. Blood doping is a whole different ballgame.
In fact, many prescripts require ppl to inject themselves. They seem to survive.

Morgan,
When one has ambition, his respective level (I believe) is not relevant. Considering a possible motivation, within oneself the ambition is the same, whether pro or cat.5. An outside perspective doesn’t weigh into a desire to kick ass, or to out-do one’s peers.

Dopers will be caught eventually. No need to hunt them down in our local clubs. No need to up the testing and drop prize money. Let them work their way up the categories. Let them win races. Let them poison their bodies. Let them be miserable. It’ll all comes full circle.

I don’t understand why everyone is foaming at the mouth over this when people like George Hincapie, who we all know doped, comes to town and we roll out the red carpet. All dopers suck and they should all be treated with the same level of disgust.

Do you have any idea how much money it would cost to research an industry’s supplement process?

not surprised. if we had park testing, this would be a weekly occurrence.

Foundation’s leadership is part of the problem. None of them individually would ever admit to supporting PED use, but their actions as Foundation’s Board say something else entirely.

oh please

Listen, if you take drugs so that you can “win” a charity ride, then you are a loser. All the apologists need to be quiet on this one because you will only make yourself look bad by defending someone who needs to take drugs in order to “win” a charity ride.

clubs testing?? clubs not letting cheaters join?? this is all crazy – it’s not the protour…

having said that – he should be suspended for life from ever racing a sanctioned event but as far as who he can RIDE with – anyone who will ride with him.

now.. as for sponsors and other riders wanting to be affiliated with clubs that accept cheaters – that’s their decision

If that’s how you feel, why don’t you just ride around the park by yourself and do the best you can and feel good about it?

if it’s a charity ride, what do you care if someone wins or not? And if they win what do you care if they used illegal drugs? Do you care about his safety? His lack of morality?

The only real cheating that goes on is when people use drugs to steal money from people that are doing this at the elite/pro level and that happens.

who gives a f*ck about someone cheating at meaningless races? I don’t.

Bugger, you seem really distraught here. I’m sorry if your bummed. Please, step away from the ledge. I’m not asking you to stop being the guy’s friend, and I’m more than happy to see gray somewhere between the black and white. I just think all those pathetic man love sessions are even funnier than before. C’mon admit it, read through those posts, the tired ol’ Chuck Norris / Vin Deisel shtick is way funnier now.

OKAY! OKAY! Please don’t jump!

Sorry meant to Bugger!

David Anthony? Should have known something was up. Never trust someone with two first names.

Although I know him in passing, I’m not friends with the guy and we don’t have any relationship other than we’ve raced against each other a bunch of times, so that is not the reason for my post. He broke the rules and that was wrong, but there is a mechanism in place for dealing with it, which includes a two year suspension, not to mention that he is being castigated on this website for all to see for as long as the internet remains relevant. Once the google algorithm gets a hold of these pages, David Anthony will be forever associated with this God awful string of posts. That’s cruel and unusual punishment in and of itself.

If the governing bodies have instituted penalties for banned substance infractions (the same rules that presumably you’ve all agreed to observe) then why is it that we cannot respect the suspension? Does he really need to be banned from CRCA for life? I kind of feel like two years is a long time to not do something you feel passionate about, particularly when you only do it for fun. I just can’t justify a lifetime ban for this one violation, although admittedly, I’m not an expert on this stuff as undoubtedly most of you are. To me, having him perform community outreach on the negative aspects of illegal drug use in sports might be more useful. I certainly don’t think a lifetime ban acts as a deterrent, but information and education might. As far as a team taking him or anyone else back, I think that should be within the team’s discretion and should be respected. You are entitled to your opinion but reasonable minds can differ. If you are interested in spending more money on race fees (me personally, not so much) then why use that money to create an educational pamphlet discussing the evils of doping and ask people to sign seperate affirmations or acknowledgements. I suppose additional testing would be appropriate, but I’m not so big on some random dude in the park sticking me with a needle. Smacks of the 70s.

I know most of you guys won’t accept comparisons to other areas of life, but in spite of Penn State’s, at best, grossly negligent handling of a criminal matter, it still has a football program; and most professional sports (including cycling) have traditionally given athletes several opportunities to screw up before even considering a lifetime ban. And thinking in terms of the broader society, the criminal justice system seeks to ensure that the punishment fits the crime (well, at least in theory).

Again, I’m not saying DA doesn’t deserve to be sanctioned, he does, but the punishment should fit the violation.

Minimized throughout the course of the day as if we are suppose to magically forget. Stop insulting our intelligence. And big ups to Johan for choosing the best time to drive a guy into the gutter since it will be overshadowed buy this DA freak…you fixed it alright.

to what Mohammed said. You morons are a step away from demanding a public stoning. What the hell? Did the crime, he’ll serve the time. Move on. All of you reacting so severely should chill. Not for my sake, but because if you are so worried about winning that this is how you react, than you are on the same path as DA

maybe Johann is doping too…’roid rage?

In general I agree with you, and I don’t think DA deserves a lot of this crap, but I’m curious why in your mind Lance is so reprehensible, but DA is not. Care to elaborate?

If he’s spending 20-30 hours on his bike training a week he probably doesn’t need EPO. Or he has minimal natural ability.

Who are we to demand the details of DA’s doping.
He cheated and destroyed some friendship. He will probably never race again and if we ever saw him on a bike, many will never see him the same way we did before.

However, as much as we are curious of the details, he has absolutely no reason to share the details.
And we certainly don’t have the right to demand that.
We follow the pro shit too much – racers get caught doping and we never really find out how/when/why etc of their dark activities. It’s frustrating and annoying because the pro keep ruining the sport.
DA’s impact has great ripple effect but it does not warrant us, especially us who post annonymously on Internet, to demand that from DA.

I hope he works with USADA or whoever to clarify and perhaps he will write a book or he will go into details.
Who knows. He may tell his close friends but he does not owe anything to the anonymous public to disclose the details.

He cheated. He probably has some mental issues.
Let him suffer. Let him ponder at his own doing. But let’s start to let him go.
Let’s keep training and continue to race our bikes. Let’s make sure while all of us obsess about bike racing, see that sometime we need to take a step back.

There are and will be more cheaters. Some will never get caught.
Well that’s life. Deal with it. We do everyday with other circumstances and issues that are far more severe.

He cheated. He got caught. He will serve his time. It’s not like he stole a bunch of senior citizens money like Bernie Madoff did. It’s only amateur bike racing! Cut the dude, and especially his team, some slack. You would be better off spending the time and energy you haters have devoted to this thread riding your bike. Don’t misinterpret my comments to mean I condone his behavior, I don’t. It’s just that in the grand scheme of things this ranks pretty low on the priority list.

Amen

Andy Shen, you stupid fuck, you should just shut up. You are missing the ball then disappearing then returning to miss the same ball again. But this is your playground as I have been reminded many times.

Blah blah blah….what really matters is those sunglasses are Euro PRO!

even if it was, you have to admit they would have a point.

2yr ban announced http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-anthony7252012

if the CRCA starts testing does that mean i cant toke up before park races???

this is gonna suck!

What he really said, “I’m really sorry…… that I got caught…. and I’d still be doping and taking Strava sections if I wasn’t caught…. total bummer… for me”.

It’s on facebook too! Why should we be limited in our ability to tell DA to go fuck himself? Maybe we can sell rubber bracelets and raise money for some cause.

Andy began making the case against Lance Armstrong when it was deeply unpopular, the mainstream cycling media spent little to no effort to cover the story. Over the years Andy built a compelling case against Lance and helped expose the systemic doping and corruption in cycling. He woke a lot of people up to this problem, including many in the cycling media who realized they could no longer ignore it. Remarkably, he has done all this from a tiny regional website with zero budget, never seeing a dime of profit for himself.

It is ironic that a guy on Andy’s team got popped for drugs, ironic but NOT not hypocritical. Andy did not benefit from DAs performance and certainly didn’t know about it. He has handled this crisis with remarkable grace and transparency, letting everyone know as soon as he found out and patiently answering all comments directed at him, no matter how asinine. He is only guilty, like the many friends DA made over the years, of wanting to believe that a nice middle aged man, relatively new to cycling, was capable of winning races in dramatic fashion by simple hard work and dedication. In retrospect many of us were are guilty of that.

Alex

For those who don’t get CRCA mailings, they’ve updated the doping policy:

http://www.crca.net/2012/07/crca-boards-response-to-recent-positive-drug-tests/

CRCA’s doping penalty is a club ban for double the length of the relevant governing body’s ban for a first offense, and a lifetime club ban for a second offense. If the rider doesn’t submit to a required test, the CRCA ban is two years, regardless of the penalty from an outside governing body.

Unclear what this may mean for CRCA members who have just returned, or are just about to return, from a USAC-imposed ban . . .

Alex, yes. This site did all that. But it went about it with maliciousness ( probably cuz Lance pissed off Andy personally at some point in the long ago past ) and has never veered from reporting the situation from one point of view with complete bias. It has used confessed dopers ( and lairs )to gain an audience.

Cheap tricks… Kinda like the ones DA used.

Start with bashing the NYC guys who dope and then you are entitled to share your opinion about the rest of the world.

it depends on where the facility is.

Don’t worry you cheap a$$e$, the crca will give you a subway voucher for having to go to the NYU hospital

Full disclosure is a good thing, and hats off to Andy/Alex/Schmaltz for breaking the news with candor.

Facilitating an anonymous electronic mob isn’t doing anyone any good other than spiking your page counts with an incendiary topic.

Regardless of your anger at DA, you are creating an electronic artifact of more savagery than is fair or appropriate.

We did away with the stockades long ago for good reason.

It is time to close the comments.

How is CRCA’s new policy of random out-of-competition testing going to work? Do I get suspended if the drug czar’s show up at my apartment and I am at work? Do I need to register my whereabouts with CRCA? How do you explain to your boss that you need to leave a meeting early to pee in a cup?

Come on.

I like that the Board takes these things seriously but I also belive they have a duty to take a reasoned and measured response to issues that arise. Sometimes a quick response is not as good as a more thoughtful one.

is anyone here REALLY saying anything so controversial that it matters if they are anonymous or not?? it’s just a bunch of dudes wastng a bunch of time chatting about a subject that has our attention for a few minutes –

Tuur Skidmark,

I thought quite a bit about posting with/without my name. As I note by your anonymous post, its not an easy decision. There is so much vitriol here. I think if all were required to post with a name I would have done so.

Your point is well noted.

its a 6 month ban for THC BROOOOOOOOO

I don’t see any comments to that effect…I see that people don’t want to race with dopers, but no one saying that they would have won. The only guy on here with that legitimate claim so far I have seen is Andrew McGee (the very first comment, ironically enough, btw), and he was actually quite supportive of DA.

Enough already with this guy, where are the pics from last weekend. My ego is hungry.

Calm down. Folks are entitled to sit with bad news for a few days before outing it. They still beat the USADA or USAC announcements.

Bullshit. Link it.

Antoine Kevlar – you say “and DA wanted to deny it”

is that fact?? or was this an off hand comment? (either way is fine I’m just really curious)

So he took went to a wind tunnel, had the best gear, took epo and was prepared to lawyer up to fight something he actually did (with no possible financial gain) and two guys who draw a comic about an obscure sport talked him out of it?

He was going to fight it?! This guy was that big of a douche and you as teammates didn’t know (the douche part not the EPO).

For his coach not to know is damning of that coach’s abilities.

I know Schmalz is a douche but I still love him.

Park racing is to pro racing as community theater is to Broadway. Those community players give up a lot of their free time and social engagements as well.

mcsorleys? what are you from jersey? (sorry schmaltz). most of the Andy bashers are really starting to look pathetic. no wonder you arent posting your names. you’re really starting to have the opposite effect desired- you’re making Andy look really good.

What exit are you Dan?

top story on Pez Eurotrash Thursday…

“Top Story”

Two EPO Positives at New York Gran Fondo

wait–is Timmy Duggan going to the Olympics??

wait–is David Anthony going to Rehab??

I like PEZ, i think they offer a nice slant on the sport – racing yes but also touring – they usually stay clear of the doping topic but I guess it’s a slow week in EuroRacing

You don;t like them??

“wait–is David Anthony going to Rehab??”

he’s 2 year ban from racing under USA Cycling and 4 year ban from joining a CRCA club and/or racing in CRCA events right??

…David Anthony. Always have been and always will be.

Honest questions for Lisban Quintero: Are you really returning to competitive cycling? If so, why are you returning to competitive cycling? You were an ok Cat 1 while you were on PEDs. You had a glimpse of what you were capable of WHILE CHEATING and it took you to a level 98% of us will never see, yet still very far from being able to make a sound living on. Do you expect to exceed what you had accomplished previously, but clean, this time around? If that is the case science says you are in for a wake up call. If you are returning just to enjoy good, CLEAN local competition like most of us super freds are, than welcome back! Not a glamorous existence, but pure, simple fun to be able mix it up with our buddies!

News Flash – Lisban can’t return to racing for at least another year, is not back on Foundation and likely wants to return to racing once his two year ban is up because he enjoys it and has many friends that race. He has been racing locally for a decade for CRCA teams like Foundation and Empire and non-CRCA teams like Mengoni.

DA is no different than any other rules-breaking, scum-sucking, unethical and certainly-hypocritical cheater who gets caught lying to friends, family, teammates, competitors, regulators/officials, etc., and then – lamely – when caught, purports to “apologize” but only because he got caught! Not as a result of any genuine ethical conversion or awakening. What an insincere prick! He deserves to be hounded relentlessly right out the back of this sport and every-other Olympic-movement sport to ensure that after two years he has no interest in returning to competitive athletics. His kind are a cancer and a plague upon sport – and life.

Worse than DA though are all of the knob-polishers who blindly defended him against allegations of doping, just b/c said allegations were made anonymously! Idiots! lol. Sanctimonious, knob-polishing, racer-chaser, chamois-sniffing groupie idiots!

Dear DA,

My Labrador really needs some pep in his step. This is really hindering my training for these very important crack of dawn CRCA races – you know, all that carbon and lycra gets me so light headed just thinking about it.

Let me know if I can get the left overs (if any) for Fluffy. Call me at 1-877-752-9253, thanks your the best.

No vendetta. And not really intended in the way you took it. It just seems to elevate club races to way too high level of importance, and being the largest oldest best there exists an opportunity to lead. Other clubs aren’t going to test. They’re too small. This has to happen at the race level and perhaps by an independent foundation looking to clean things up. I’d rather see a guy caught at battenkill or Harlem than in a ten dollar cp race.

So the cost of entry for Battenkill per rider was not enough for testing at that event? How much do you think riders should pay next year to roll around in the dirt? 300.00 a head perhaps?

No, the Century Road Club of America and Saint Louis Wheelmen are tied for oldest clubs (1891). Century Road Club Association was established several years later.

the snob nailed it

I’ll have you know there are chiropractors and orthopedists who buy second homes on marinas with the money they earn spending realigning the spines and hips of habitual foffers. Especially if it’s always with the same hand.

it’s not “foffing” over porn it’s “Fofonoving”

I’m guessing the positive test caused DA to come clean. a leak of confidential information is orthogonal to this.

If you really want to make testing effective, work at driving down the costs to actually administer the tests, and lower the number of tests. Further, drive down the costs by not testing randomly – winners/podium, and with targeted information.

What are some ways the club/teams could drive down testing costs and raise money to pay for them?
-Negotiate for bulk rate testing deals?
-Test only for targeted substances (skip the weed)
-‘At event’ only testing (no out of competition)
-Reg fee increases
-Lower prize $, more towards testing

I’m no expert on testing methodology and administration, and I’d like to hear some other opinions.

Did leaking the positive make David S feel as important as DA did when he was getting the results? I hope so.

He cheated on your mom

thanks David. I guess putting all the words like discovering in quotations was tongue in cheek. Bottom line is you emailed this out to your friends so that you look cool. you are a douche for that.

DA took EPO….got caught…..decided not to fight it. End of story.

What kind of Omerta are we talking about here?

“thanks David. I guess putting all the words like discovering in quotations was tongue in cheek. Bottom line is you emailed this out to your friends so that you look cool. you are a douche for that.”

Dude hold on. If DA had not been a lying fraud none of the following events would have happened. He cheated, was called out. Was forced to give an admission.

Dave was marked as suspicious for a while. You would have to have been deaf not to hear the rumors. The guy lost sight of reality. Someone on his team should have staged an intervention. Anyone that tries to defend him just looks ridiculous. Step outside the CRCA cocoon and read and listen to what the rest of the World thinks of this clown show. He embarrassed NYC racing. As for others rumored this is a wake up call. USADA is all over this. Don’t worry about internal testing. They will be here enough to make it redundant.

why wasn’t this as big of a deal when lisban tested positive?

depressing as this story is, I’m glad it happened if it provides the catalyst for us to really start doing some testing at local events. let’s clean our community up!

“I did inquire with several other Officials and my friends in the cycling world to see if they knew any additional information as I simply wanted to know more facts to be better informed.”

You’re a douche. You should be suspended too.

Sorry for the double post Andy. I accidentally posted in the hopeful friday thread.

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DA got what he wanted…people know his name. Imagine, he’s doing interviews with the NY times. Sorry the dope sucked the fun out of the sport for you Davey. Oprah next?

The Lisban question is an interesting one though. As one of the stars of the local scene why didn’t Lisban’s positive test get met with the same ire. As Andy said we’ve rolled this thread into multiple pages and that’s never happened here before. Is it simply the nature of the substance. DA took EPO. Gold Standard stuff. Is it the time of year? A bit later in the season and guys are more tired and burnt out? NYVelocity simply have more anonymous watchers and thus more vitriol? Or is it that DA wasn’t a star? Sure local wannabes liked to pretend he was the real deal, but truth is he wasn’t really more than good. Is it that no one is surprised when a guy like Lisban gets popped, but a guy like David Anthony represents the common man and cheating in cat 4 and 3 races seems so much more egregious than doping at Basking Ridge.

How about DA (or any other doper) has to forfeit the bike he used in the race? Sell on eBay and donate $$ to charity. Race waiver will stipulate these (loss of) rights. Heck, maybe they have to leave their bike with the race organizer and can pick it back up when their doping tests clear. It’ll surely never pass legal muster, but boy, I’d love to watch these cheaters squirm…

Community theater is all comsuming too. Obsessed at the expense of family and friends.

So angry. Don’t you have a street you should be occupying now?

Lisban pulled a Sammy Sosa and forget how to speak english after he was popped. We thus lambasted Foundation (and still do) because we didn’t think he would be reading posts, or quite frankly giving a shit. LQ was relevant because he did steriods and won money ($5000 for Basking Ridge?)and got his Foundation stipend in return. We don’t hold as much of a grudge because we probably weren’t beating him without the juice anyway.
DA is different. Put your $2000 wheel argument away for a moment — what people do with their money is their fucking business. There is a line and DA crossed way over it. You want a coach, a $10k bike, a O2 tent, go spend your money. (i am a believer it supports the bike industry and therefore benefit me in some way). Drugs are way different and now I assume he beat me (you) because of it. Don’t give me this shit that these races don’t mean anything. Why the fuck else am I doing max intervals twice a week if that is the case. I need something to get me out of bed in the morning to train and winning a B race or 3/4 race is it. I don’t know how the fuck you wake up at 4:30am if these races mean nothing to you, but that is your business. So i suppose there are a lot of guys like me that lost to DA or had a race effected by DA is some way that was adverse to me being a reason for all the vitriol.

…that is.

Yes, David S may have prematurely let out some Info he didn’t realize it was too early to release, but does that change the fact that DA tested positive for epo and admitted it was true? At this point, the only point in villifying DS seems to be to deflect from DAs actual, admitted guilt for cheating and lyIng

DA and BH/Dopers Central are slim shady – DA and his team never would have come clean if reports of his doping were not leaking and CRCA board did not insist.

Way to be open and honest though!

way to blindside the board. do you only inform them of the really important stuff?

Stop blaming Andy, BH team and their riders.

So far all we know is that DA did it on his own.
Andy is upset and his teammates are disappointed.

“The way BH handled”? I am sure they were more shocked than all of us outsiders, and did what they can while pursuing the truth. Put yourself in his shoes for one second.
Can you handle the pressure and disappointment the way he did and many of his teammate did?

If you are angry, write DA a letter. Tell him to his face, but stop accusing Andy. If it wasn’t for him or the site, you probably would have not found out anything about it much later.

Please inform as to how this miserable situation could have been handled better. I’d love to hear your thoughts.

Enough bashing Andy and Dan. They didn’t give DA the Peds. What more do you want. they feel like shit and he’s getting what he deserves. Give DA shit not these guys.

alan b

If you don’t like the way things unfolded blame David Sommerville – not Andy or even really DA.

USADA has a process and Sommerville decided he wasn’t going to abide by that process. I don’t care what he says, if there was not a public announcement about a sanction then he should not have been emailing inquiries to anyone outside of USA CYCLING or USADA. It is absolutely his responsibility to abide by the rules and follow the process.

That process says that once an athlete is confirmed to having an adverse analytical finding everything is kept confidential and the athlete has ten days to accept their sanction – and if they don’t USADA goes public anyway. Ten days in which to do things like talk with their team, their sponsors, their club and whoever else the positive might effect.

So what do you propose? we dwell on this forever. or try and move forward ?

Beast who are you? What’s your name? You say you are a CRCA MEMBER but how do we know? You could be a not so bright, not so friendly dude who may not even know how to ride a bike.
If you really think someone wronged you, go to the next Crca board meeting and address it. Or pick up the phone and call Andy directly.

I suppose you have the insight to criticize Andy and BH of the protocol of handling the announcement, I hoe you have the decency to see that attacking them annonymously on such public site qualifies you as a hypocrite.

I heard David Anthony of BH got busted for EPO. Is this true? I still can’t believe it. The guy trains like no other and has the best in carbon technology.

Damn those Zipp dimples. I knew it made that fraction of a difference in the wind tunnel. I wonder when Zipp will come out with dimpled syringes. Every second counts.

I heard Dan got caught Fofonoving in an altitude tent. Once.

Hank Headset good points

All this circular firing squad and sniping still going on here while one of our own competes in the frickin olympics, and races like a champ. She made me incredibly proud today – to have known her, for this thing of ours on the park, and for our country

Just an opinion, but you guys take yourselves a bit too seriously. A doper on a world tour team means a team in jeopardy. A doper on a CRCA club team means a wealthy Fred going up and down a hill in Harlem.

It’s just hobby bike racing, guys!

@Hank

Yes it is in the rules. The A results are communicated from USADA to USA Cycling, the USOC and WADA, all of whome are not allowed to make it public. Actually not just until the B but until all proceedings including appeals are complete. Emailing outside of any of these organizations is yes, leaking it and making it public.

One thing that is interesting is that USADA has a strict policy that says athletes are completely responsible to know if any supplement they take have any banned substances, whether it is listed in the ingediants or not. But this official, somehow gets a pass in your thinking because he did not know the rules. He took a screen shot of a page that only USA cycling officials have access to and emailed it to the owner of the guys team. His defense? I didn’t know the rules and a lot of other USA cycling officials also had access to it. Well none of them emailed the owner of the team. He alone did.

His other defense? Other people already knew. Really? Yet Rod Millot the president of
The CRCA didn’t?

Never met Sommerville and have no connection to him. If the posts below are correct, sounds like he shouldn’t have emailed the screenshot. Maybe he made a bit of a bonehead move, but the guy’s a bike racing official, not a member of the CIA.

My bigger point is that a few splenetic posters seem to want to exact their revenge on various perceived rivals by linking them with DA’s doping. I’m going to stick to blaming the guy who doped, and I have sympathy for the people he screwed over.

What about his friends and girlfriend? Dude traveled to races and training camps all over with teammates – including Bermuda – and its one thing to hide your porn, but how do you hide your syringes??? Others must have known…and they are almost as guilty – the taint smells all over the place..

NEW YORK TIMES — BEST SELLER ON THE WAY FOLKS!!!!!

NYT QUOTE —

“Anthony said he used drugs to maintain his social standing within the local racing scene and on his BH-Comedy Central amateur team.

“It wasn’t for money, and it wasn’t for winning,” said Anthony, a three-time winner of the Tour of the Battenkill race in upstate New York. “It was about being relevant in the group, which was pretty addicting.”

Anthony, who began racing in 2009, said he had recently upgraded to the amateur category 2 — one step below the highest amateur category. A former cigarette smoker, he said bicycle racing quickly took over his life. He trained 16 to 20 hours a week and spent several thousand dollars each month on race entry fees and transportation to events. He also slept in a $4,000 hypoxic altitude tent, which pro cyclists commonly use to legally increase the production of red blood cells.

“The sport is all-consuming; it’s not like weekend softball,” he said. “I was only involved in it for four years, and it took over most of my energy.”

ALL ENGULFING STUFF!!

Damn, I can’t even afford a power tap

if you look at his race resume, you can see that he targeted the out of town races- Bear, Battenkill, Capital Regions, etc…

His race resume is a joke.

“Targeted”

Is the the code you cuties used to mean you were ‘preparing’ for a race.

if you try hard enough, you can belittle most any “hobby”. whether you do or not publically depends on the state of your self esteem. you don’t really gain anything from doing it other than the satisfaction of knowing that you just belittled someone. FYI, targeting means he singled the race out and doped to win it. it’s really that simple- or maybe your just a moran…

Saddlesore, what do you think he should do?

I’m furious with what DA did, but this is the first sign that he’s taking responsibility for his actions and not playing the victim. It’s good that he’s been in touch with USADA too–hopefully he has indeed been forthcoming with them. I’m bracing myself for the fuller accounting that he says is on the way tho.

Agreed that it’s tired and sad. BUT, people on this message board have basically been screaming for more details and more info (me included), so I don’t mind the update.

“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about”

Hey DA – when you’re ready – make a full statement, give a complete accounting, apologize and disappear again for awhile. Please also get some professional help – a really good psychologist.

It appears that you realize that your behavior was pathological. Well, I hate to break it to you, BUT getting caught and owning up to it does not cure you. That is, maybe, the very first baby step in a long road for you to be able to interact with other people with empathy, compassion and true caring. These are all concepts apparently quite foreign to you. I think you almost understand that much of the local cycling community (and even beyond) are really angry at you. Part of the reason for our anger is that you cheated, and in the process abused our trust and demonstrated a complete lack of respect for us.

We feel ‘duped’ – you held yourself out there as someone special, deserving of praise, when all along you were deceiving us. You were duplicitous in the way grand egos lose a complete sense of reality. No doubt, you can be engaging and charming as many charlatans are – PT Barnum, Bernie Madoff, Barry Minkow or Eddie Antar (you can Google the last two).

It does not impress us that you have spoken to Travis Tygart, or Andy Shen or anyone for that matter. We don’t care if you are now, less than one week after your revelations, going to serve as the great savior for all other ‘closet dopers’. For everyone’s sake, please don’t continue to torment us…we’ve had enough already.

Yes in his latest incarnation he looks a bit bloated.

DA: What makes you think you get to decide what the “right” questions are and if some people are being too rude on you?

You fucked up. Big time. You stole victories from honest people who were working their asses off to win. And who knows for how long you have been doing this?

You don’t get a fucking medal for admitting that you cheated. You get what you deserve.

And please stay the fuck away from USADA. Like you are now some hacker getting a job at IBM. Fuck you and fuck your attempt to be some kind of clean wiseguy afterwards. You wouldn’t have say a damn thing have you not been caught. There’s nothing noble about that. Stay away from cycling.

my broken leg, my obsession, my cheating to be the best cyclist who no body could less about. Dude your joke and give a very bad name to our local cycling. To think who dopped for a fun tour, like NYGF you have some real issues dude!Thats not even race?!!!!

Mr Anthony,

You must have had some advice on dosage, and along with that, blood monitoring. You didn’t end up dead, so someone helped keep you alive while you did this. Who helped you? Explain this stuff in vivid, FULL detail.

You DID NOT do this alone. Stop saying that. You own your part, and that’s a really big part (and this statement in no way minimizes what you’ve done). But nothing gets solved along the way until a busted doper reveals the name of the cancer that is willing to break the chain of custody for controlled substances. We need to go after the medical or pharmacy licenses of these people. This stuff isn’t produced by hillbillies with a still in Kentucky.

We’re not looking for an adequate amount of sorry and shame. We’re looking to eliminate the enablers of this. These people aren’t “everywhere”. They’re a fairly small group of people. Help us eradicate this problem. Putting your head between your knees now will not solve anything. And please, please don’t say “no comment” because USADA told you to do so.

DA has found a way to give back to the community and has decided to start a new international women’s track team.

The sponsors presentation: http://treatsmagazine.com/video/ben-watts-issue-2-part-1/

You really can post in some other thread. There’s a bunch. Unless you’re saying you really can’t control yourself…which was kind of DA’s problem.

Your pissed when dopers don’t speak up. Now your pissed when they do. Nothing changes if this just goes away. Houston, we have a fucking problem here. What is done is done and if USADA wants to work with DA, then hopefully something positive (pun intended) can come out of it.

enough dopes have spoken up to know how & why it happens. I’m not pissed, just bored. It’s a boring old story with the same driving motivation. I’m not pissed, I just don’t care anymore. Why drive this guys ego with more acknowledgement?
See you next week nyvelocity.

This David Anthony guy has been cheating his whole life, and he just got caught, again, darnit. He’s gotten caught so many times, he doesn’t even use his real name any longer. David Anthony isn’t a real fucking name. Had he served, any half assed drill instructor would have caught that pansy ‘David Anthony’ bullshit the first fucking minute and marched his dumb ass right over to personnel and figured that shit out immediately. David Anthony? What bullshit. I’m shocked you all are so gullible, getting taken by a load of bullshit that a dumb georgia cracker sargent would have picked up in two seconds.

Look at the whole picture. Is ‘David’ working, contributing to society in some way? No. He probably stole the code and intellectual property he used to start his ‘business’ in ‘imaging’ with, or paid the person who created it nothing while destroying him or her. Doubt me? Really? Ask fucking David jerkoff to name his business, his credentials, and his expertise.

Look at the whole picture. Does ‘David’ have a family? No. He probably cheated on everyone he’s ever been close to, female or male, looking for a way to take advantage of them and use them. What was the last serious relationship that fucker had and how long did it last?

Look at the whole picture. Has ‘David’ ever volunteered for anything? Military? Charity? Soup Kitchen? No. He spent all his time pursuing goals that would make him feel good, and cheating to do it, on a carbon jerkoff machine, clothed in spandex. What a pussy.

Look at the whole picture. Is ‘David’ educated, did he obtain that education himself, or did he join a frat and crib notes from everyone? You know he cheated his way thru school, all the way.

If the answers disturb you, then don’t ask the fucking question, spud nuts. The guy is a dangerous combination, a person to be pitied, but one who’ll take advantage of that pity to advance himself, instantly. As a vet who has put his ass on the line personally and knows a thing or two about honor, I can tell you this DA character is a dangerous combination.

‘David’ should put himself to work in service of persons less fortunate than himself, for the rest of his life, and make frequent and generous donations to charities from his city or state or federal salary, so he can see the human wreckage he and people like himself are responsible for, every fucking day. Go fuck yourself, DA, and all your fucking asshole elitist friends can go fuck themselves, too. Want to impress me? Donate your savings to charity, live on a loaf of bread a week and a can of soup a day for two years, get a government job, and donate a third of your salary to charity, and then race.

What a fucking jerkoff, cheating with pharmaceuticals to win a local race. Where have all the tough guys gone?

WHERE HAVE ALL THE TOUGH GUYS GONE?

You are all a bunch of fucking pussies.

all prospective dopers have to do to realize the futility of doping is look to Schmalz. he’s the number 1 ranked rider is all of NJ without the juice.

Mathis Ceramic to Foundation

The idea that DA doped ‘all on is own’ is BS.

Anyone who believes this line of shit is a fool.

He knows who assisted him;

He knows the names of those who supplied him;

He knows and they know where the origin of the EPO came from;

He knows and they know how and when it was administered, in what doses and at what intervals;

He knows and they know a hell of a lot MORE than he’s pretending;

Why does he keep saying, incessantly that he “did it alone”?

Because he’s PROTECTING a circle of DOPERS, SUPPLIERS and COACHES who are in on this entire lie – OMERTA, pure and simple.