Chat Bastille Day

by Andy Shen

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108 Comments

Aaron

Wait, I’m not tired of you, I’m tired of the jokes you use. You’re not a bad boy, you’re just behaving badly. How’s that?

Aaron

I cut all my hair off, what little there was. Do you guys sit around rubbing your scalps like I’m doing?

Aaron

As long as I’m embarrasing myself, did I mention my bee-sting? Let’s just say that chamois (pl) are too short in front these days.

lee3

Sirens festival this Sat. Coney Island! – sHE Wants rEVENGE is playin. Nice pre Unionvale celebration.

lee3

Yea I’m still thumbs up for radios. The sprinters will still be able to walk down the clock even without the wire.

Aaron

schmalz, in your ideal world would the chasers still get the gap times? They’d just give a domestique a calcluator.

schmalz

Give the time splits to the chasers, of course. Who wouldn’t want to see Commesso try to multiply?

lee3

I would think that most of the really well drilled sprinter teams dont use radio clock info. The Petacchi train and Cipo train would just wind it up 5k’s out. I’m sure theyre conscious of how long they let a break stay out and panic sets in. Without radios panic would just set in earlier and we’d have TdF races looking like Cpk cat.V races.

schmalz

Check the gas again, Lee. Sprinter teams are getting constant time split info when they’re chasing.

Andy Shen

GC leader teams know all they have to do is keep it close. Once the sprinter teams know they have a chance they take over. The sprinter teams don’t chase ’til they know it’s worth the effort.

lee3

I think they must know that a 5 min gap can get walked down pretty quick. From the time they get the chalk board I’m sure theres plenty of time to catch them. Once theyre in sight its just a matter of pulling the trigger.

Andy Shen

My point is that those teams don’t just wind it up at a certain distance. They don’t move a muscle unless they think it’s worth their while. Stupid GC leader’s teams would let the gap get too big, then they have to bring it all the way in. The smart ones make it enticing for the sprinters, then get out of the way. All this happens because there’s tons of communication.

lee3

Well you made the point of GC guys keeping it close. This being the case + getting the chalk #, timing a catch can be done without wires.

Andy Shen

It’s too slick. Makes life too hard for the break riders, and boring for us. The other scenario is that they catch too early, and a good counter goes. That would be fun, too, but that never happens.

schmalz

Of course it can be done with the radios, the point is is that w/o radios it becomes a racers decision – not a DSs decision

schmalz

Radios keep un-savvy (or stupid) racers in the GC battle, and kills initiative because breakaway guys know they’re going to be chased by guys getting time checks whispered in their ears.

lee3

You get enough guys in a break to offset the amount of guys actually working to bring it back then with radios one could attempt pick up the pace to match the peleton speed negating thier efforts.

Aaron

it would be hard to totally take the communitcation away, though. GUys would still go back to the car for info.

Andy Shen

What about taking away TV feed for the DS cars? Just minimal race radio info. That way they can still communicate for mechanicals, but they’re not omniscient.

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