I’ve been around just long enough to know that there are pressures from within the sport that may destroy it. Until the sport is rid of those at the ‘top’ (nationally & internationally) with political talents that dwarf their leaderships skills, we are all subject to the petty power struggles carefully crafted for the purposes of posturing against those who present dangers to their corrupt infrastructures. Until I see the return of honorable & credible people in these positions, I’ll give guys like Floyd Landis and Jared the benefit of the doubt.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=reu-sponsorshipdeutschetelekom_urgent&prov=reuters&type=lgns

nice to hear someone being real for a change.

He’s done racing.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13714.0.html

It doesn’t feel so good, does it? Maybe you’ll think twice before you do it again. Or did you miss that piece of irony?

And you’re anon: no one even knows who you are. So imagine how it would feel if you were being named.

viper bores me. he’s not even a good writer (but sure thinks he is). quit trying so hard.

i gotta give credit where credit is due. viper’s post at 11:25 is fukkin brilliant.

rack him.

LOL x 2.

What you should be saying, to those with their scanted personal posts/comments “Don’t raise your voice, improve your argument.”

FYI, several folks agree with my sentiments, these debates are never easy, simple and one-sided. The fact that some can’t accept a differing opinion from their own, resort to personal attacks…only makes them domestiques in the field of debate.

Oh, above quote is from Archbishop Desmond Tutu’s dad.

“well he sure talks like a bitch.

“I bet viper takes lady drugs for his lady parts.”

LOL. At least I have the intelligence to post in complete sentences, the spine to post what I truly think, the wit to not attack others while I use a name in posting instead of anonymous.

School’s in and ya’ll are suspended. Cutters!

“…is name-calling, pompous, inflated language, and trying to pass it off as nobility. Give me a f-ing break.

No one’s disagreeing that doping is wrong, what they’re disagreeing with is your self-righteous attitude, intentional twisting of words, and obvious disregard for the fact that this is about a human being. And if you can’t understand that, then you can’t talk about morals. The only thing worthwhile in all of your posts was your Milli Vanilli reference.

And now I choose to turn my back on you.”

The main thing noted here dude is your personal attack of me, which makes you all the weaker for it. Plus, you should know/note, I couldn’t care, really, this entire thread is not about me, but about Jared Bunde’s two year suspension for a banned drug use.

I stand firmly on everything I said and no, I never dug Milli Vanilli, even when they were big, girl you know it’s true.

“Turning your back” on someone on the internet is Marlon Brandflakes; it’s like like bringing coals to Newcastle (while drinking a Newcastle) while taking water to the ocean, sand to the beach, wood to the forest and trying to sell green clovers to General Mills.

I wish Jared well, there is no karma ever gained in wishing ill will. However, I am clear, staunch and firm in my perspective of cheaters…and I am allowed to feel this way, it’s not the USSR before the Beatles sang about it.

Don’t confuse self-assurance or confidence with self-righteousness. Having never tested positive for anything other than a crush on Cheryl Ladd, I can offer my perspective on this suspension of Jared Bunde.

well he sure talks like a bitch.

…is name-calling, pompous, inflated language, and trying to pass it off as nobility. Give me a f-ing break.

No one’s disagreeing that doping is wrong, what they’re disagreeing with is your self-righteous attitude, intentional twisting of words, and obvious disregard for the fact that this is about a human being. And if you can’t understand that, then you can’t talk about morals. The only thing worthwhile in all of your posts was your Milli Vanilli reference.

And now I choose to turn my back on you.

Does the Viper ever tire?

Your post is right on. There is so much here that I agree with, and believe me, I have gone through many emotions in this situation. I don’t take any of my actions lightly, and understand that there are consequences regardless of my initial intention. Will I go away, no. Will this change and affect me through the rest of my life, yes. I don’t wish this situation on anybody, but I do also feel that it has brought much important dialog to the surface. As an athlete you do have a higher responsibility to the public than a normal citizen, and ignorance is no excuse, for this I will pay a huge price. I am sorry for those that are hurt by this, but I embrace these conversations in collective growth. Happy Thanksgiving.

this is still going… but the conversation hasn’t progressed.

i’ll offer something up for you… take it wherever/however you want.

when you travel the globe and race against the best – as bunde did – you begin to get a very clear picture of the “haves” and “have nots”. if you have been racing at that level for the past decade – as bunde did – whether or not you doped was a matter of choice and whether you were willing to make that extra sacrifice.

on a positive notes, the sport is cleaner today due to some positive work by USADA and WADA.

so everyone take their head out of their collective asses. it doesn’t change the person bunde is, or his contribution to youth cycling. he took a step to be a better bike racer and now he’s paying that price.

where’s the hate? Rasmussen did do something wrong. Petition the UCI to change the rule. He was fired and stripped of his tour lead because he lied about his whereabouts which was against the rules.

Rasmussen was caught for lying, which in many circles is indeed something.

Bunde failed a drug test, and part of failing a drug test is having your peers be pissed. Some more than other, and much of it with a good dose of hyperbole. But the idea the ‘he made a mistake, lets forget it and all move on’ really diminishes the role of honesty in the competitive endeavor. He wasn’t honest, and baring some sort of bombshell suplemement outing he’s going to have to live with that.

More than the three people who finished near him in a race are harmed by this. Obviously the presence of one strong rider can alter the tactics in a race, but more pertinent is the competitive balance. Guys seem Jared getting faster and faster. Winning. And they’re more likely to resort to these sort of tactics. One could make the argument that usage on higher levels is what brought Jared to make a decision such as he did. In the effort to try and make the grade one may resort to desperate measures. So the idea that the victims are but one or two is sad. The cycling community suffers. He had a great season, and it was one that could inspire people to race and train harder. It also speaks to the kids he works with. As a parent I wouldn’t be to thrilled with my youngins hanging around a track with a guy who failed a drug test for PEDs. That doesn’t negate where his heart is at, or any potential or past good he did, but kids are impressionable enough. This is part of “handling your own child’s moral upbringing.” Just saying no, to having your kids coached by a guy who made this sort of decision. Plenty of guys make bad choices and become good ‘look at what I did wrong’ role models but that’s for another time and place.

the issue I have is that we are all saying it anonymously. It’s lame, cowardly, and over the top. And we still need some perspective (hence my DWI anlogy). Yes I could throw a stone, but I live in a glass house, and chose to be bigger than that. Can we? Yes. Should we – you decide.

Might stink more. Bunde violated the rules we all race under. To go from that to cheater may not be the hugest leap, but to lump him in with large-scale EPO/blood dopers and heavy steroid users is a large leap.

The substance Jared tested positive for is not a masking agent, nor is it an actual steroid. It is a substance that can be used, among other things, at the end of a steroid cycle. However it can also be used to performance-enhancing effect without steroids. It is false to say that if someone has used clomiphene, then they have used steroids. It is certainly more likely, but not necessarily true.

All that said, Bunde tested positive for a banned substance that he should have had a better handle on, either by knowing that he was taking something that had been banned or actually knowing exactly what was in the supplements he was taking.

He got nailed, and a 2 year ban seems like a pretty real punishment, particularly for someone who’s life is so completely defined by being a bike racer. Which is something most of us here cannot say.

In fact, if one of us got busted, we’d probably take up some other sport that facilitates huge expenditures of money on gear, like triathlons. Wait a minute – that might actually be a worse punishment. Mankinis for 2 years!

Anyway, time to eat pie for the rest of the day and stop reading freshman-level legal positivist argumentation.

These types of discussions are healthy– we shouldn’t be afraid of them, or of differing opinions.

And Viper, you wrote some weird things earlier, but I think you’re on-point this time.

Whats the point in discussing this any further? let him serve his ban, end of story. He’s not going to fight it, suppliments or not it doesn’t really matter anymore. All of you are talking out your asses, and have no clue what really goes on around here. Jared’s positive won’t change much. I’d be very surprised if guys all of a sudden became mysteriously slower next year. As long as there are farmacias, guys will get their speed from a bottle. Although, I do enjoy the hypocrisy around here…

I knew it– Bunde is Kaiser Soze.

I got busted for a DWI, put others in harms way while doing it, and had my license suspended. Paid my dues and now do not drink and drive. I never believed I was a bad guy, I just made a few bad choices. Hopefully I learned and am better for it. Lets get some perspective people.

Sure. Especially so if you’re inclined to be persuaded.

“There’s no mystery on the streets, no arch criminal behind it all. If you find a body and you think his brother did it, you’re gonna find out you’re right.”

– Verbal Kint

If that is so, (and I don’t buy it for a second, sorry) it means that Jared did not intentionally cheated his fellow cyclists.
Well in that case he has a huge responsibility to tell us all, what supplement it was, so that this disaster does not happen to any of us. Once we know what supplement it was, we should send this information to cyclingnews and such, also contact the manufacturer, so that they can warn everyone else. And Jared should absolutely sue the company.
In any case, I won’t hold my breath for all this happen, as it is most likely just another lie in a long string of lies.
I will be happy to apologize, if I’m wrong, but for now, all facts (Mengoni statement is not a fact, more like a cover up and distancing them selfs)are saying Jared did it.

His case for “unknowing ingestion” will become persuasive when they name the suspect supplement or amount of clomid found.

I’m hearing he was taking a lot of supplements and some of them were contaminated. Dumb, but it it’s true it’s nowhere near as bad as going to get steroids or epo.

I don’t really enjoy reading people’s casual bashing OR defending of Jared character. It’s as if none of you bashing him(in an extreme way) has ever done anything wrong or “illegal”(please!) in life.
And commenting on his good character doesn’t do anything to defend his doping case. He may have taken banned substances(otherwise why would he accept the two year ban?). Ok, he knew the rules, he probably did it anyways and was caught. He will now have to face the punishment. That’s a severe one, and he probably knows and feels it more than we can imagine. Let’s leave him alone. Move on, get on your bikes and start training(or eating).

dopers are cheaters, and often liars.
dopers are innocent because they are religious
dopers are guinea pigs, for science
dopers are heroes giving more than 100%.
dopers are players, everyone has to do it.
dopers are basic athleties doing R&D training.
dopers are mulatto, not white or black.
dopers are vegitarians that but know what works.
dopers are people that cannot be stopped.

Your banishment has been rescinded.

Bunde tested positive for clomiphene, which is available in many over-the-counter supplements. Also, I am fairly certain it was only added this year.

Does this mean he was doing steroids? No. Does it mean he wasn’t doing steroids? No, it doesn’t mean that either.

To reiterate: he did not test positive for steroids or a masking agent, but something that is, among other things, used at the end of a steroid cycle.

And yes, I consider him a friend and think he is a great guy. So yes, I am biased.

guys per race that Jared won were really affected. Sorry for the rest of you that were placed 32nd instead of 31st. If you are one of the top 4 you gotta point, and I am sure would man up and write your name. All others: get over it. Mind your own store.

I believe Mengoni gives its riders a stipend, maybe +/- 10K a year, and racing expenses paid, including bikes. Jared works part time as a mechanic, and lives very simply. I don’t think he has an inflated sense of himself as being pro-as-shit.

having said that, I’m still disappointed in this. I’d like to think that banned substances got into his system by accident but that requires a suspension of disbelief.

Free e-ritchie!!

There

Good luck dealing with your future in cycling. I really thought the cycling community were somewhat liberals I guess I was wrong. if it was up to some of you Jared would be burned at the stake.
we all make mistakes in life, Jared your mistake will only cause you temporary humility. Be the man that you are, keep riding, look everyone in the eye and move on.

stop refreshing!!

find another way.

How many of you guys rushed to pay 30 bucks plus another 20 to get Landis’ autograph? How many of you got pics with him at the roller race? how many stood up for a guy they didn’t even know? Jared is a hometown boy… that doesn’t condone or make anything acceptable, but I for one am not ready to throw a guy ive known for a couple of years under a bus that quick… drugs or or not.

i get it –

my question was kinda sorta to taliah because she wrote, “…I don’t think Jared intentionally doped.”
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my feeling is that it doesn’t matter. at this level of the sport, the athlete is in charge of what’s ingested. perhaps his team organization is as well. what i haven’t heard yet is denial. if there is a reason that clomiphene is ingested by an elite level male athlete, i am interested in knowing why. if there’s an explanation that the substance was mistakenly ingested, i’m all ears on that as well. to a certain degree, i think it’s a privilege to earn a paycheck from a/this sport. when one cheats and still gets paid, others behind him lose income as well as a possible spot on a team. it’s all connected. unlike the analogy where a cat speeds and has his license revoked, that driver possibly harmed no one on his way to walking. in (this) sport, when you cheat, you have kept others from making their living as well as they’d trained for.

“This sends the complete wrong message. I hope you rethink your position on this.”

Get a grip. This sort of zero tolerance stuff is lame. He cheated. It’s bad. Does that mean he should be out of anything related to racing forever? Are you like that in other aspects of your life? Does the doping mean whatever help he gave kids in the past is tainted? If he’s doing the same things with kids before and after doping, what’s the difference between those two times?

Oh yeah, I guess the difference is the “message” that sends? Whereas you want a message of “zero tolerance”, “never forgive” etc etc. If your kid ever cheats at anything I hope you make sure he’s never involved in that activity again. Ha. Live like that if you can.

“said doper had the endorsement of the region’s USCF official. ”

What are you trying to say? Are you trying to imply Alan endorses doping? Because he dares say a doper can also do good things? Jared did do good things for the community – that’s a fact. If you think the doping outweighs that, that’s your perogative. But doping doesn’t mean he didn’t do good stuff or could not do good stuff in the future. Your attitude is messed up and simplistic.

and to Richie’s “if he tested positive, and agreed to the 2 year ban, how can he have doped unintentially?”

Maybe because he doesn’t have the resources to fight and knows people will all diss him anyway even if he does, eventually, win? I’m not saying it was unintentional (sorry Jared – I don’t buy that), just that maybe he doesn’t think he can win.

jft rescued this thread.

“Maybe because he doesn’t have the resources to fight and knows people will all diss him anyway even if he does, eventually, win? I’m not saying it was unintentional (sorry Jared – I don’t buy that), just that maybe he doesn’t think he can win.”

fair enough. alot hinges on the ‘maybes’ and ‘what ifs’. he’s on a good team. if he was not guilty and believed it to the core, perhaps his team might have stepped up to the plate and added support, be it finacially or emotionally. has gs mengoni made a public statement yet?

“Maybe because he doesn’t have the resources to fight and knows people will all diss him anyway even if he does, eventually, win? I’m not saying it was unintentional (sorry Jared – I don’t buy that), just that maybe he doesn’t think he can win.”

fair enough. alot hinges on the ‘maybes’ and ‘what ifs’. he’s on a good team. if he was not guilty and believed it to the core, perhaps his team might have stepped up to the plate and added support, be it finacially or emotionally. has gs mengoni made a public statement yet?

…gets it, atmo.

…because it’s a suspension, not a ban. If you think the penalty should be more harsh, petition USA Cycling to change the punishment.

“It’s a license suspension, not a ban. And the penalty is only the result of the circumstances, not of intent.”

he’s suspended from participating in the sport due to the positive, right? all i am wondering is whether the sport encompasses the rank and file, card carrying clubs/members that make up the usac. it’s a general question to be sure. but if a caught doper can’t race, why is it okay for him to affect the sport in other ways, such as coaching, or admistrating events? i wrestle with this.

I respect you dude but big diff between steroids & gatorade…

“should he really be permitted to be part of all this while serving a suspension?”

Part of what? It’s a suspension, not a ban, not banishment, not excommunication, not a prison sentence. So what do you mean?

if he tested positive, and agreed to the 2 year ban, how can he have doped unintentially? i’m still waiting for the explanation he mentioned was forthcoming. no matter, if the sport’s governing body revokes his license for this, should he really be allowed in the game before the 2 years are up? i’m sure he has friends who will stand by him, and rightfully so. but he doped (according to this story) and got caught. should he really be permitted to be part of all this while serving a suspenion? is there a halfway house for cats in his position?

I don’t think Jared intentionally doped.
He’s a great guy and what he’s going thorough is rough.
He’s given alot to the cycling community, and inspired many people to ride bicycles and to race. I hope he continues to work with the kids at the track. When he’s back racing, I’ll be there to cheer for him.

said doper also is paying a pretty steep price. i’m pretty sure he would tell your kid not to dope so he can keep racing.

why don’t you handle your child’s moral upbringing and leave the USCF official out of it.

I agree with you. You should also understand the frustration of all the riders. Some competed against Jared and probably came up a bit short. Those opportunity may never come again.

PS. Not signing your name does not make your comments shallow. I don’t sign my name simply because I don’t feel like it.

for erasing the post i was responding too.. makes my post seem a little bit empty.

man do you sit in front of your computer playing Hall Monitor all day? go ride a bike or something.

“i would have sworn up and down…”

get your head out of your ass.

WTF Alan. “just because he incurred a drug suspension” aren’t you missing the point? as a USCF official you should be distancing yourself.

We know for a fact that he is clean. After all, he hasn’t won anything ever.

He accepted the provisional penalty on the 15th of Oct. Say goodbye for 2 yrs.

Dude, I saw he apologized, but saw no admission of guilt. I am sorry too…sorry this mess happened.

Dude, he accepted the penalty, the system found him guilty. So dude he admitted he did it.

More akin to cheating on the SATs to get in a better school or lying on a resume to move up the food chain than speeding.

Nice guy also.

To “I’m going to ride you into the gutter”,
you’re not even brave enough to sign your name.

“Chances are Jared would have won the local races he won

They’re the ones who’ll hate you when you think you’ve got the world all sussed out
They’re the ones who’ll spit at you. you will be the one screaming out.

I

It’s really strange that people who just two weeks ago were openly attacking dopers as bad people who are ruining the sport are now making excuses for Jared.

I personally don’t care what his explanation is. It doesn’t matter. Pathetic.

“And it’s not like he tested positive for HG or EPO.”

This is the sort of statement I’d expect from an ex-real pro. And this is why a-holes like Bunde dope. Because a-holes like Joao tell them it’s ok.

Isn’t public humiliation one of the deterrents of drug use? While threats to the guy are in really poor taste (and should be deleted) it’s ridiculous to think this isn’t the kind of reaction this news would get. And to those who say to wait until they hear his side, the burden is on Bunde to bring any other side to light, and then those who wish can take that into account. The other side right now is that he tested positive and accepted the penalty. That’s an admission of guilt. Being a nice guy doesn’t change that. In fact that was an initial Floyd defense, wasn’t it.

{Jackie voice} Awww, come on! He’s a great guy!!! {/Jackie voice}

http://www.gsmengoniusa.com/_news/2007/091007.htm

First and foremost I’d like to apologize to everyone for this mess. Being a member of the Mengoni squad, I’m deeply disappointed to hear the news. I don’t come to this website often, but when I do, I almost always see smack talk here. As you all probably read from people who know Jared, he’s is a super nice guy and has always offered a helping hand when needed. I can’t remember how many times he pinned my race number correctly when someone had pinned it wrong. We would have a little talk on what we could have done a little better during a race at times too. He rarely got mad at anything. We even shared some good laughs in the process.It’s the little things I remember about him when we raced together. He a great guy, this is how I’d like to view him. No one is going to change that perception of him for me. I know for a fact, that the man cares about cycling. He lives,breaths and sleeps it. He helps kids and works at a bike shop, just to get by for Christ sake. The man made a bad judgment, and he’s paying for it. You don’t need to insult him any further, his punishment is already a hard lot.

The second thing I’d like to address is that, this does NOT mean everyone in Mengoni is doped! I want to make this clear, I for one thing, am NOT. I’m totally against any type of performance enhancing drugs. Please don’t be that naive and put a cross hair on the head of a Mengoni rider or past rider for that matter ether, just because of this predicament. I know it’s easy to assume things, however when you assume, you sometimes can make a ASS of yourself. Once more, I’d like to express my regret and apologize to everyone this has afflicted, I do believe it’s the whole cycling community.

re: sex offenders, YES, Jared does need to go door to door, just like Jesus in “The Big Lebowski.”

Love all the little Bunde groupies here as well– that he played to your own myopic delusions doesn’t make it any less true.

Oh yeah, he’d become a “pro” alright– his national road results are “stellar” for sure.

Keep him away from kids AND the racing scene. I have more pity for the young rider who gets swept up in it; Jared’s excuse is what precisely?

As someone else noted, it’s almost FIVE months and counting: got writer’s block, champ?

This is hysterical.

You are so full of it.

He is going to use the “I have no idea where it came from” excuse, thats what the Aussie Rory Sutherland said when he got nabbed a couple of years back.

“beating established international pros from all over the world from the Borajo brothers to Pete Fitzpatrick to Ryan Nelman to Simon Vanvelthoven, etc.” Never happened. Ryan Nelman – last olympic Sprint champion – You must be on crack.

from Wikipedia (see url in earlier post

“Clomifene is commonly used by male anabolic steroid users to bind the estrogen receptors in their bodies, thereby blocking the effects of estrogen, i.e., gynecomastia. It also restores the body’s natural production of testosterone. It is commonly used as a “recovery drug” and taken toward the end of a steroid cycle.”

“his name, as a racer, is dirt to me”

Yeah, I don’t think anyone’s arguing with you there. But why pour salt in the wound? The fact that it’s self-inflicted makes it all the worse anyway.

I am not protecting him but I think that some of the comments here are way over the line. What he did was over the line too but that doesn’t mean everyone else should take the opportunity to compare him to sex offenders, name-call, or threaten. I mean, come on. People have a right to be angry but at least make an attempt to rise above it rather than act like vultures.

I find it ridiculous how you guys protect him. I agree that as a human, this test does not define him, but it does contribute to his character as a racer. Personally, off the bike, I have no issues with him. However, on the bike I have a very large problem with him. Indeed, he may be a good person, but his positive test shows a certain level of disrespect for his competition, the sponsors, and the sport. I would have no problem riding him into the gutter during a race because of it. This is not meant as a threat to him, and off the bike I would never disrespect him, but after the disregard he has shown for the intergrity of our sport, his name, as a racer, is dirt to me.

i’m curious about the medicine behind all this. why take a female fertility drug? does it mask something else? is it a counter to some monster testosterone doses?

Jared is a good guy, does worthwhile things off the bike. But that’s what makes this tough to hear. At the very least he made a very serious error in judgement, and is certainly paying a price for it.

Really uncool for dudes to be threating him here. two years is plenty punishment.

Sounds like you’ll be on a 2 year hiatus too…. Maybe I’ll see you out in Cancun? A quick game of golf, we can knock back a few and reminisce about old times. What do ya say?

Enough with the shit-slinging already. The guy is a real person. He trains kids because he loves cycling, likes kids, and wants to do something good. He also wanted to go pro, and thought that this is what he had to do to get to that point. He didn’t dope so that he could beat riders in local races, he did it because he thought that would get him to the next level. He just wanted something really bad. Yes it was wrong, yes, it was stupid, but comparing him to a sex offender and deliberately trying to shame him further is really over the line.

Well, I guess it’s official: the NYC racing scene is Pro as Sh-t!

This sport has sunk to an all time low. Risking your health by doping for shitty local races. Who’s next?

Everyone comes from somewhere.

well maybe if you busted your ass harder you’d win. or just quit, fuckin baby.

I don’t get why we have to reserve judgement until we hear his side of it.

He accepted the penalty on October 15. That is his side.

He should really give up the names of the people that supplied it and those that pointed him in this direction.

I’ve got dibs on the carbon Jamis, with carbon SRM cranks and those sweeet Dura Ace clincher tubular wheels…I may test positive if I even sit on that bike…but I’m willing to take a chance!!! just like Jared apparently…

sad…& unfairly or not it throws just about any good rider under suspicion.

fertility drugs cost $$$, and, i imagine, are tightly controlled- if it is as it stands i doubt this is something he did alone & without “help”

So maybe you guys should take that dumbass primer thread down now, doesn’t seem so dumbass anymore….

Everybody cheats. I just didn’t know.

“Please realize that there is more to every story than just a headline.”

i’ll be reading and am eager to hear an explanation.

it could’ve been in animal pack? scott moninger?

Was he trying to get pregnant?

I’m dissapointed by this news.

But read what Jared wrote. He’s said he was sorry. He hasn’t denied it and from that news report has started his suspension right away. That sure doesn’t make it right, but the blanket hate is lame w/o more info.

at least he still has a hot girlfriend

I agree but how many times have we heard from cyclists who test positive that they have a statement that will clear things up. Really they are just trying to save face and they do not have an explanation. This is not a case of him having too much cough medicine in his system. This substance is quite rare to have in your system.

You Suck! I hope all those hipsters who jerked him off all year were not following in his footsteps.

I hear/read from Jared that he did this purposefully I will find it hard to believe that there are no other possibilities for this positive. Multiple supplements/drugs are at times made in the same room and contamination can occur. If/when he makes his statement and he says that he knowingly did it, i will be upset and truly disappointed… But i will never act like a child and post insults on a website. Its easy to say dopers suck, but i’m betting that all the hate is coming from people that have never even talked to him before. Because if you had you’re head would still be spinning from the news to react that fast…. Also, if you’re gonna hate have some backbone and leave your name…

Mengoni. Now they are all suspect. Every race they won this year is suspect.

Just trying to get pregnant guys, no biggie.

Make your statement.

You tested positive for clomiphene.

There’s no way I’ll believe that got on your system by mistake, and just happened to coincide with your best year ever.

Tell the truth.

Let’s hear what Jared has to say about it.
Blanket condemnations don’t make it any easier to make our sport cleaner: if you want it to change, you need to listen.

Read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clomifene

For what? To say your cheating piece of shit that couldn’t finish a race in previous years, so took drugs to win at Floyd Bennett Field.

Get your head out of your ass. Clomiphene is used by women for infertility or by bodybuilders to boost testosterone production. Highly dobtfull ANY legal drug with clomiphene would be prescribed to a male.

Cheater piece of sh*t.

F-you Bunde, I don’t care what the circumstances were, there is no room for you in our sport. Enjoy the 2 years, and when you come back I hope you enjoy the gutter for the rest of your life.

He got busted on July 28th. The a-hole won Maltese on July 7th. Wonder if he was doped for that win. Hahahaha. So many people in NYC were sucking his balls incesantly, he was the sweetheart of the NYC scene. I believe there is even an interview with him on NYVelocity. What a joke. Hmm. Guy flats at FBF, catches back on and rides away from the field for a win? I guess now we know how that happened.

how disappointing