Gentlemen/Ladies/Cat 5s…
It is with great sadness that I inform you that this will be the last hangover of the year. Dan has officially given up and rather than try to carry the torch in his stead, I am just going to stop because I have better things to do. Here is your weekend report of #relevance
On Sat, there were races around Hunter mountain for a select few fields who got enough people to prereg early enough to make Dieter happy. I am unable to locate the results, but I do know that someone in the 3/4 field held the pack off on the last lap to take the win and James Malhmann of CRCA/BH Comedy Central got 2nd.
Also on Sat, there was the final CRCA race of the year, the Team Cup Finale. I have heard Zach Koop of Blue Ribbon/Translations won the A race, Armand Wilhelm of siggi’s/NYVelocity won the B race and someone won the C race (feel free to let us know who you were in the comments below). This is all rumor and conjecture at this point, no results posted yet.
On Sun, there was the Tour de Fort Lee. Results are, again, forthcoming.
And on that blah note…
Joe Salling said USADA will be testing both Master fields andPro 1 2 field at Fairhaven
That’s BS. New York signed onto the Drug testing program. NJ DID NOT.
I’m not entirely sure the USADA needs anyone to sign onto anything to test. You agree to it by virtue of possessing a USAC license.
It Joe Sailing, not Joe Salling.
While you are correct, the deal is you will be tested as much as you used to at some local crit – ZERO, unless you are in NY, which has made it a point to test. NJ discussed this option formally at their board meeting and passed.
I know you’re just trying to scare the “dopers” from knocking you off the podium AGAIN.
Fantastic race – classic crit course with a decent kicker, nasty corners and crappy pavement. Thanks to promoters and Strictly!
More Eli?
When did AVD take over reporting CRCA results? Seems like some time mid-season.
CRCA C Field winner was Paschal Lennon of VELORIGIN Performance
Results from the race are up here: http://www.crca.net/2013/09/club-race-results-9713/
So, its pretty clear he got caught for something. Has missed a few key races lately and was sitting on the sidelines at Ft. Lee yesterday in non-Mengoni kit. What’s the word on the street?
Rather than throwing dirt and starting gossip, seek your response at http://www.uci.ch &/or http://www.cqranking.com. Neither one of those sites have reported Pollito as failing any anti-doping test.
Yeah Armand! Nice!
coke and weed
THEY WILL BE TESTING AT FAIR HAVEN !
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT FORT LEE BUT DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT AMONT OF CHAPERONES OR LOGISTICS FOR TESTING. EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE FOR FAIRHAVEN.
Foundation won the CRCA masters field
OMG
“THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT FORT LEE BUT DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT AMONT OF CHAPERONES OR LOGISTICS FOR TESTING. EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE FOR FAIRHAVEN.”
It’s good to hear that USADA let a good reliable source like you know.
Joe Salling said USADA will be testing both Master fields andPro 1 2 field at FairHaven
Testing @ Maltese was a fuckin joke. Here we are in September, still no news
The recent posted cycling positive result was from a test in early June. Seems the process takes time.
Like sands in the hourglass, these are the days of our banal NYC cycling existence….
dudes still avoiding races just like back in the papp days . are all you guys that stupid, still offeriing blind support for dirty local racers. pathetic
who f***ing stole my handle?
-the real quarqy thatcher
and I don’t mean the 4/5 race
It didn’t take this long for USADA to declare Schmalz was not a dope after Gran Fondo so why so long for Maltese results to come back? Common sense says someone’s piss wadnt right.
That’s what I was thinking when someone called themselves “Eli Cash”. Whiskey tango foxtrot?
On a related note, don’t these tests take forever to develop? AFAIK, that was the common knowledge…
I was tested on May 17 and found out the results on July 21, so that was just over 2 months.
Some European rode away from the field, from the look (and report) of my unkle’s pictures.
Oh hai Eli!!!
It was me..I stole you name.
Who are you?
I am your father.
My, how I see your schmalz has grown, young jedi!
Luke Keough?
No wait, that’s not right.
Fort Lee and Hunter had $60 and $65 entrance fees and no results as of Monday night? Maybe the low turnout is corollary to the promoters’ inattention to the most basic desires of the racers.
I guess we’ll see who gets stuck in traffic this weekend.
I want my 28th place memorialized! Along with my 412.76 usac points, dammit.
Hunter results are here https://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2013-3307
Sorry for the delay.
Just got an email from AVD that there’ll be another FBF on 9/28.
Dunno what the MCA is, but that’s who’s putting it on.
It is time to dance.
Scaring may be as effective a tactic as actual testing.
A few weeks back the promoter, who’s a USAC official, of the South Jersey Crit weekend leaked that there would be testing at the race. Word spread and apparently a few riders managed to get caught in traffic and not make it.
What was even better at that race was watching several riders “drop” out during the race that had no business dropping out.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-and-verbruggen-accused-of-corruption-in-report-summary
USADA doesn’t test masters unless it’s a gran fondo or maybe a national championship.
USDA tests masters regularly for their quality of marbling.
Promoters should understand that by Wednesday no one cares who won their race. It’s like picking up Monday’s paper. The world doesn’t turn on it in anyway, it just slips off into a deeper layer of irrelevancy.
USADA will be at Gimbel’s this weekend.
http://www.usacycling.org/results/?permit=2013-2838
Dropping out of a race does not exclude a rider from the testing pool.
There actually was a massive traffic jam on the TP that day and only a few riders bailed. there was no leak of doping controls that I heard of. Marcin was in the jam but managed to show up with 2 laps to go before his race. WHATCHU GOT?
Are you saying the highway was jammed with broken heroes?
about not seeing my result as #25, but really, only placing 15 deep is pretty lame for a 60 buck race. Basically you got paid or you weren’t there.
Hey Deiter,
Can you explain the situation with the Cat 5 45+ results?
When will the correct results get posted to USA Cyciling?
Results are screwed up. Got a bad file to work with vs what was posted at the race. I’m fixing today. Sorry for the cluster there.
Will the USA Cycling get updated as well?
All promoters should only place top 15 for a “non-pro” crit. Everything else is irrelevant. Sprinting for 25th place is not only ridiculous, it is dangerous as experienced riders who correctly understand that anything outside the top 10 is losing will correctly not be contesting a 20th place finish and pull up not to create a danger for themselves or other riders. The last thing they need is some ass hat with his 900 watter weaving through the last 50 meters trying to secure 25th so he can justify the $10k Dogma to his wife*.
*Not saying that you do that.
ps Save Eli
…In your opinion, which sucks. The reason the 25 deep payout is fun is because last year in Fair Haven there were 2 very large breaks ahead of the field. Each break, as well as the field still had something to race for making it an exciting race to watch all the way through. Would have been a pretty boring race is the second break and the field just gave up midway through the race.
Truer words never spoken.
Maybe all the CRCA development teams (and regular teams) should emphasize this novel concept to its newer (as well to its older & equally dumb) members: if you ain’t in top 20 in final few hundred meters, you’re done. Don’t sprint.
“The last thing they need is some ass hat with his 900 watter weaving through the last 50 meters trying to secure 25th so he can justify the $10k Dogma to his wife*.
*Not saying that you do that.”
So after missing both breaks, you decided that instead of working with the group to chase break two down (and trying to secure a relevant placing) you would sit in with the pack to see who can win the field sprint for 22nd place?
The second break left midway in the race. I along with a large group of others assisted Mengoni or Foundation (I don’t remember which one) in chasing. I was basically riding solo and at about 4 to I new there were still money spots, so I decided to recover for the sprint knowing that the break had gotten too far away and the only team with numbers had someone in the first break. By the end of the race the first break and the chase group had merged and were over a minute up with no large teams back in the field.
To clarify, sprinting for a placing that pays out is always acceptable as you most likely will not plowing into the back of riders that have given up as they will be racing for higher placings. What should be common sense is to not be going full blast so you can say you were in the top 20 in a race that pays 5 or 10 deep — since you are probably going to put a gassed rider in danger in addition to yourself. We as racers have a responsibilty to each other to make our events safer. Since crashes happen most often in the final sprint of a race, i dont think I am asking for too much here since almost all of you reading this do not do this for a living.
Well said, I agree.
whether or not they get placed. that is irrelevant. If, as a promoter, you say you will provide results, that means you say where everyone crossed the line. may sound stupid to you asshats, but as a team director who deals with sponsors all the time, they are just as annoying and entitled as you buttmunches, and would like to see a number, even if it is 35 beside their racer’s name, instead of “dnp”, and talk about giving guys nothing to race for…well, if those breaks are gone, with 15 people, then, hell…might as well sit up if you count the same as the guy who got dropped on lap 1.
Exactly! If the race is up the road, there is nothing to race for. So sit up and save it for another day and try not to miss the move this time.
Eli, What do you think?
How did a question to Deiter about incorrect top 5 results motivate a comment about about people sprinting for 20th place?
I wholeheartedly agree.
I figured the comment was based off of Fort Lee’s $60 entry fee, paying 20 deep.
because no one cares about your cat 5 podium. you’re not entitled bitch about results until you’re at least a cat 3, so stfu and let Eli have his moment here for Christ’s sake.
Agreed with post re. Top 15 and that’s it. It would make the races better.
USA Cycling can designate a “Finished with Field” or “Pack Fill” or “Barnacle” result. Finishing 17th or 68th doesn’t change the narrative unless you’re talking to someone TOTALLY unfamiliar with cycling.
just in case there’s no “Hopful Friday” posted, FAIRHAVEN’s race this Sunday is where its at this weekend. Cesar Marte will not be there for obvious reasons, so we all have a fair shot at a piece of the $6500 purse for the P/1/2 Race ALONE!!! Hurry up because at Midnight tonight, Pre-reg will be closed
oh – and how can i forget? in addition to the 6500 for the P/1/2 race, there’s another $1200 for the Master’s 35+ AND (when does it ever stop) another $1000 to the Master’s 45+ races! HOLY COW BATMAN!!!
How the F did I now know about this race? I could have hit the juice last week to get peaked for Sunday. Dammit NYVC, you’re failing to deliver timely race info. I blame Eli.