Hangover 4/21/2008

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Bruno Langlois comes down from Canada to win the Pro 1 race at Battenkill. Mike Margarite gets a big one for Empire in the men’s Cat 2 race, coming in solo to win by 49 seconds. Westwood Velo goes 1-2 in the men’s 3 race, with Dan Hoffman first and Dave Freifelder second. Anna Milkowski wins the women’s 123 race, with local hero Maria Quiroga (the new MQ?) of Radical Media winning the 3/4 women’s race. The cat 4 races were swept by Massachusetts riders, with Dave Trimble of Kissena hitting the podium in the cat 4 “black” group. Rocket Roger Asphalm won the men’s 30+ race, with Steve Badger second and Matt Howard finishing an evil 3rd. Doug O’Neill wins the men’s 50+ race, to everyone’s disbelief – not disbelief that he won – disbelief that he’s over 50! I smell protest! Lewis Almonte is second in the junior 17-18 race. That was an epic effort just typing the results, if you have a story to share about the race, please feel free to type away.

Ken Harris won the CRCA A race, with Colin Prensky taking the B race in a sprint.

No results posted for the Spring Series races yet – if you won – let us know. Franklin Burgos crashed hard in the 123 race and we wish him a speedy recovery.

Reports from Branch Brook are sketchy, but an unnamed source tells us that schmalz placed second in the field sprint in the 3/4ths race. That has to the the result of the weekend right there.

122 Comments

Fours at Battenkill

Kyle Peppo of Adler broke a spoke with 6 miles to go, got a wheels changes and caught in 5 miles to get 4th. Matt Richards of NYVC got 5th in his first outta town race- great work guys!

Anonymous

Finished in a field sprint following a 15 lap break by Jermaine Burrows and a Sommerville rider who were caught with about 2 to go. Podium was
Ricky Lowe
Chris Loudon
Edwin Morrell

Anonymous

How many flats in that race? I know some guys had multiple flats in the first 20 miles. Also, how many guys and girls in serious dehydration mode? I know I was suffering just to finish. Bad day for many but a great day for everyone who finished.

Anonymous

The heat caused many to dehydrate. I was surprised to see people at the line with only one bottle. Also saw a lot of flatting. Probably pinch flats from rocks wedging against the sidewall on the dirt roads.

Anonymous

Thats because you people are fools, and don’t properly know how to hydrate for the first warm race of the year.

Anonymous

I think everyone was properly hydrated before this race. I would say 100% of the racers took this race very serious and ate and hydrated properly. The problem was that it was close to 90degrees up there and you were out in the hot sun on dirt and sand for hours. No one was expecting that kind of heat in April. Last year it was a high of 50. I had 2 bottles (big bottles) and I was nursing the last bottle for 15 miles. It was hot and lots of DNFs due to dehydration. The times you see are very decieving for some. Many just took it easy once they were dropped because it was not worth blowing up for a spot 10 minutes back. Others flatted multiple times and others stopped to help riders in distress. I know a rider who waited with his friend who crashed for a long time. It was a tough race and the fittest and toughest came out on top. Great job to everyone.

Anonymous

You were not taking in pounds of sand and dirt during your race. Kind of dries you out. I love the guys that stay home to race the local races when everyone goes out of town for a challenge and then they are the Monday Morning Quarterbacks.

Anonymous

1 Jonathan Erdelyi Rite Aid Presented NJ
2 Stephan Kincaid Rite Aid Presented PA
3 Lisban Quintero CRCA/Foundation

Anonymous

haha right. Granted dirt does dry you out, but lack of water is your problem. Its not an excuse, its an easy out for sucking. saying you’re dehydrated is pretty convenient after you’re out of the race. General fitness also plays a huge roll in bodily water consumption…..

Anonymous

If thats the case, I don’t wanna hear anyone say Bear mt is hard, its far too close to the city. That also goes for Tour of Somerville and mt. holly. All far too close to make it a difficult race. And none of them include dirt.

Anonymous

I sucked in the race and did not dehydrate – just rode it in slow once I was dropped. No reason to kill myself for a top 50. It was nice out and I enjoyed the course as a nice training ride. I think most of all the heat and dust was a shock to many. I still had fun and love the course. BTW – I guess the 40 of so Pro1s that DNFed are lacking fitness?

Anonymous

Or perhaps they got flats? Or got dropped, or lost bottles in the dirt sections? I’m not sure you can try to make a point with a huge generalization based on a complete lack of information as to what happened to 40 or so pros….

Anonymous

Just cause you’re a 1 doesn’t mean you’re fit right now….I can see a 1 getting dropped pretty fast if they are unfit and battling a bunch of pros or even fit cat 1s.

happy

Im so glad I didnt leave town, spend a night in some crap motel, get up early, and then go for a “nice training ride” on dirt roads on a hot day in upstate NY. Sounds crap to me. NY area was nice and cool in the am and CRCA race was just the ticket. Glad some of you had fun though.

Anonymous

It was defintely hot and dusty. But it was in the forecast. Any person with two eyes and half a brain should have been able to figure out that an extra bottle or two was necessary. Dehydration stinks, but its caused by lack of preparation. All the guys with power meters and coaches and matching bikes are wasting your money and your time if you can’t be diligent enough to eat and hydrate properly on race day. In short, you guys are idiots.

Anonymous

The race was pretty easy after having to sleep in a paper bag at the bottom of a septic tank the night before. I should have just stayed in NJ.

NYC sucker

the most fun i’ve ever had racing, and I’ve had a lot of fun racing. it’s the ultimate challenge. If it’s cold and wet, you have to battle the mud. If it’s hot, you have dust and dehydration. While you’re concentrating on just staying upright on the steep sections, and your HR is 190, you have to be thinking about race tactics. I went home and watched the VS broadcast of Paris Roubaix and I had a new appreciation for it after racing Battenkill. (it sounds cheesy, but it’s true).

dolan

“I love the guys that stay home to race the local races when everyone goes out of town for a challenge and then they are the Monday Morning Quarterbacks.”

Cherry Blossom is probably the premier spring race in the NYC area – and i will attest it was probably the fastest so far this year by a long shot.

You talk like you went out to race Amstel-Gold this weekend and the rest of us wussed out to do a CRCA club race. Get a clue.

Suck it up

had the same hydration issues. They just didn’t suck so they don’t moan about how they wanted another bottle.

You lost because you weren’t as fit. Not because 15 oz. of H20 would have saved you.

Wussy Dolan

Battenkill is probably the premier spring race in the NE US – and i will attest it was probably the fastest so far this year by a long shot.

You talk like you went out to race in NJ this weekend and the rest of us wussed out to do a Battenkill race. Get a clue.

Anonymous

Big difference between fast and flat vs. Hard. No comparison between the level of effort needed to do well in the races. Many could finish with the lead pack at Cherry Blossom on an off day. Battenkill was a real battle. I hate bike racing!

Anonymous

Id have to say, fast and flat IS hard. Floyd is moderately fast in the 123s and flat as all get out, but it can be hard as balls. Its the riders that make a race hard.

dolan

wussy dolan was funny.

the rest maybe took it out of context. and i’ll admit i had a certain level of post-posting regret. alas that is the risk we take!

i’m not comparing the two races and saying one is better than the other. i’m just saying cherry blossom is a big event and hardly wussing out.

we could compare the two:
– battenkill has incredibly high cost barriers (drive, hotel, entry fee)
– cherry blossom merely a high entry fee.

the prize list at cherry blossom was 3 grand which seems like a bigger opportunity to me.

Anonymous

i guarantee the roubaix was more difficult than a freakin newark race – no doubt in my mind. the ‘fast speed’ isn’t a determining factor, because branchbrook is FLAT. flat, flat FLAT. it should be fast, or the field sucks. so… shut up?

dolan

i didn’t say cherry blossom was harder than battenkill. i said it was harder than a CRCA club race.

THEN i said it had a bigger prize list and was probably a better opportunity.

Anonymous

All races are hard. To win even harder. I have raced tough crits and long RRs that turn into grueling death marches. I think there is a difference between a “Hard” race (ie. hammering for an hour at your max at FBF or the Naugatuck Crit) vs. a “Grueling Race” where you have to carefully conserve your efforts, hold your position and watch your fluids and food intake. There is a big difference but all races are hard some are just not grueling.

Anonymous

eh? schmalz won money at cherry blossom! when was the last time he did that in crca?

(no diss, schmalz, we love you, sincere congrats on the result)

dolan

i have serious post-post-post-posting regret. can we talk about hydration again? frankly if you cramp and die than you didn’t hydrate. i drank a 12 pack of coors light on the golf course friday which did the trick for me. i drank my first bottle in the first 25 miles and then promptly dropped my second bottle and did the next 30 relying an a couple sips from teammates.

moral of the story? drink beer, race near your teammates and don’t post your name on nyvelocity.

schmalz

I’ve placed in one CRCA A race, a long time ago. Perhaps there should be some sort of “schmalz-scale” to rate race difficulty. If I place, the race isn’t very difficult, of course.

Anonymous

Congrats, you have completed, or most likely not, a “grueling” race at Battenkill. So here’s the tally. You drove 5 hours, stayed in a shitty hotel, possibly got in the “money” which was a joke, then drove your ass home. The best part; you went all that way, didn’t’ even think to bring extra bottles JUST IN CASE.

Whats the final bill on that grueling race?

Anonymous

a strong distinction between categories here. the race with the full pro team that averaged almost 28mph in the wind… i bet that was hard. the cat 4 cherry blossom race probably was the same as every other branch brook.

Anonymous

Isn’t Battenkill the self-promoted biggest single day race in the North East? Since when do you believe self promotion? Or cat 4s for that matter?

Anonymous

battenkill was stupid. there was shrapnel from other races all over the road and you couldn’t tell who was in your race, up the road or whatever. and this came from a cat 2.

Bullwinkle

Hey hey. Happy spring. I’m so excited to be back amongst my friends from the south. Battenkill is so fun because its like Green Mtn. You guys get worked into a frenzy and then come up here to show your climbing prowess and then just suck. Moose banana. That’s right. And apparently lots of you don’t know how to hydrate too.

I will give kudos where deserved. The 2s and old timers from NYC area did very well as usual. They are not banana eaters.

But I can’t say the same for the armo of NYVelocityers I watched bongle around town. Terrible. Armies of them on matching bikes with matching bellies. You need to learn portion control. Doesn’t make you go uphill faster. Looks terrible in lycra.

Cat 4s. Kyle Peppo. The great hope of NYC 4s. He’s ok. But he is a choker, not a closer. The podium is for closers.

Cat 3s. Reed A. New outfit. Same level of banana suck. Can’t sprint after he climbs. And what about the army of useless teammates he had? Which of them hold the bananas?

jft

following in the p-1-2-3 was stressful but not brutal. Doing stuff was hard. A lot of guys (ummm….including me) could not do more than follow.

jft

“You guys have obviously never been ridden off a wheel when spinning out your 53/11 in the fucking gutter.”

Big hills are hard, but in a way a super fast race that you have to be “on” every moment is harder. And with some hilly races guys just pop then pretend then sufer home. Whereas an event with the field in a long, long line for hours is way more stresful.

For example, IMO the Fitchburg Circuit race is way harder than than Road Race.

Anonymous

Making your wife come to a road race? bad idea. Then taking her to a place called the Burger Den. Also a bad idea.

Super classy.

Anonymous

Saturday was my day, Sunday the wife’s. I doubt she was the only wife / significant other at the race. As for staying slim for race season, eating at a burger shack after a race like Battenkill is not going to break ones season. Isnt that why we do this, so we can stuff our faces afterwards? 150lbs and 6’1 I do not think I need to watch my diet.

Anonymous

Oh yeah? Im like 125 and 6’4” and can count my ribs through a T shirt. My co-workers think Im bolemic and follow me into the bathroom to make sure I retain my lunch – which was 3 celery sticks and a splurge on a teaspoon of carefully measured peanut butter. Who you callin’ skinny? Im so strong I can lift my bike all the way onto the roof rack – even on the way home – with some help from my wife. Im so strong I beat that butt crack showin’ tri guy yesterday riding around the park in his aero bars with the intense race face for like a full hour or more. Im so strong I did Harlem hill like 5 times and still had energy for more if I really wanted to.

Anonymous

Any idea where stages of Tour of Ga are being televised?
Vs doesn’t look like they’re covering it.
Espn?
Cycling.tv?

Anonymous

bolemic = the condition of having less than the normal amount of Manute Bols in one’s blood

(see also antonym: muggsy boguesemic)

tyler durden

I love how everybody seem so polite during the races.
“hey, man, how are you, how was your race?, great! et etc”. And then you come home and read this shit.
Guys, let it go when you are in front of each other. Don’t be afraid.

Anonymous

That dude is from another planet. He came by me after I was dropped from the Cat 3s and was going so hard with one tag along. He won by 6 minutes and had the fastest time of any 55mile race. I parked near the guy he was in the break with and that guy said he had never pushed so hard to stay with a one man break. He got dropped. I hear he trains with water bottles filled with pennies – cool! I am sure Roger would have been top 10 in the Pro1 race

Anonymous

Those guys raced super hard in the 3s. Its tough when you are going up against a stacked Cat3 squad and they keep on hitting you from all angles. Curious to see if Will Odonnell and Friefelder upgrade soon. Will would have been in the top 10 of Battenkill if he did not lead out Friefelder. Strongest team in the Metro area by far.

tyler durden

Supposedly, he was born in a mental institution. They say he only sleeps one hour a night. He has facial reconstructive surgery every three years. He’s a great man, Roger Aspholm.

Anonymous

and your point is? its a cat 3 team, get over it. will be pack fill when and if they upgrade and do the big boy races.

NOT on WWV

Strongest Team – From 1s -5s (road and cross) in the area. Love em or hat em, they train hard and win races.

wow

I still got a good workout. Never let up, just pretended that the group was right on my heals even the gap was several minutes.

Anonymous

strongest 1-5?

how many 1s and 2s do they have? like 3? thats not much of a “team” thats a couple strong guys.

Anonymous

I hear they travel to races in Led Zeppelin’s old jet; the entire air cabin runs at a simulated 10,000 feet of elevation.

Anonymous

I saw Roger win at Branchbrook pulling the entire field around for seven laps. I mean that literally — he had a giant rope around 58 guys, and dragged them off the back of his bike.

He also does one-handed pushups off Seven Lakes Drive as he descends.

Anonymous

Why would they mention Empire got owned in the pro/1 race. I’m suprised they didn’t do the crca club race instead.

Anonymous

or whatever Stuie O’Grady says…
train harder, live the life of compulsive athlete and you too maybe will win a race someday…
Carbon Bike/custom fitted
Carbon Wheels/$100 tubs
SRM/Powertap/Gold Plated Stopwatch
AltiSim/Mountain Camp
Chiro/Pharma
Massage/etc…
Supplements…
blah blah blah…

Congratz to the guys who worked the hardest over the last 4-6 months.
Period.

Calvin Kilne

this it got to be the most non attractive front page ever.
ok no offense no Marco,Schmulz,Ken and chuwie.
but havent you guys herd of the frase sex sell.
can we get some hotties up here?

Anonymous

Dan Hoffman took off on the last 150 meters of the final dirt section and motored away like we were standing still.

JPK

Down here on vacation
Was an anwsome 1st day th Toyota putting a big train for Ivan D. After the race it was real cool they let fans just go and kiss ass with the pros for a half hour or so.
Ps. Rock racing has tricked out cars .

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