Hangover 7/30/2006

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There was a lot of racing this weekend in the city.

CRCA had races both Saturday and Sunday. Gerry Martinez won the CRCA Master’s championship, while Organic went 1-2 with Abraham Soler and Gustavo Pizarro.

Igor Misicki won Sunday’s point’s race from the Dirty Dozen at the front of the race.

Eric Brownell won the Pro-123 at Prospect, with Gary Bell winning the 4s and Daniel Chabanov taking the 5s. But the biggest news out of Prospect was Ugli’s skin saving Man Hug at the sprint.

Outside the city, Geoff Bickford was third in the Empire State games Crit, and Beth Renaud represented the City by winning the Women’s Crit.

Daniel Zmolik was second in the Cat 2 Crit at Altoona, taking 6th in the Cat 2 GC.

Reed Albergotti wns the Cat 4 Crit, and ends up 3rd on the Cat 4 GC at Altoona.

Lord, that’s a lot of results! I’m going to stop now, feel free to add anything I missed.

87 Comments

Anonymous

ESG crit was fast. Guys getting lapped who ussually ride strong. Great to watch and some strong riders.

Tokeneke was brutal… Hot, humid and hilly. Great race with nice support and a nice course. Plus food at the finish.

cranky

was anyone in the “a” field trying to chase down those sneaky devils? lets hear some Schmalz tales from the pack…

Anonymous

Why would the Adler guy leave his bike in the road and start running in the sprint after the crash with his hands up in the air. Seems dangerous and stupid but I was not there…

Anonymous

I saw it, the Alder guy looked like he was riding piggy back on the other guy’s bike for quite a ways and then he untangled, his bike fell and he was left running. he just threw his hands up as he was slowing down because he hadn’t fallen.

Anonymous

Cecelia Pleva hung in there in the Pro women’s stage race at Altoona finishing all of the 90+ mile road stages only to DNF in the final days crit.

Anonymous

With 4 turns to go in the final lap of the Altoona crit, Reed got onto his team mate Dan Oates’ wheel and Dan gave Reed what looked like the most perfect leadout, taking all the turns very aggressively and gunning it in the final stretch, gapping the field. Reed then went around him and blasted off like a rocket ship, winning the crit by 50m, no one in sight.

The announcer called him “the man with the devastating sprint”.

Anonymous

while this “save” is great, the new Adler guys in the 1/2/3 fields are dangerous. if they were better to begin with this wouldn’t have happened, i bet.

431

That is very hardcore.

Nice going for Reed in the 4 race.

Boronow also scored NRC points in Wisconsin, as did Bunde I think.

jft

There was a little chasing of the break, but the field was small and there not enough coordinated chasing among us stragglers.

jft

The United guy goes left AND the Adler guy is riding head down. Which is key. Not good except (maybe) when you’re in front.

shaw

brett cleaver attacked 6 miles in, was solo for about 17 miles. chris chaput and I joined him for another 25 miles, then we were caught. it was a nice brutal ride on a relentless course. gary from boston scientific soloed the last 15 miles for the win.

jft

It was presumptuous of me to think the description of the United guy going left was spin. But it’s just part of the story.

hg

Went with a strong cat 3 squad.
Got 7th at the circuit race, 3rd in the crit (wining the field sprint) and 7th on the overall GC

Reed

It’s true. Dan Oates catapulted me over the line. He finished 10th overall, and Gregoire Faber tied for 15th in GC.
And Matt Serra represented CRCA with great attacks, and would’ve been up there, but for a mechanical on Day 1.

I really recommend Tour de ‘Toona. Very cool race.

Anonymous

Becky Koh, Elena Leznik, Ashley Prine 5th, 6th and 8th in the women’s race.

Brett Cleaver won the KOM in the 3 race

Ian Harris 6th in the 4s

Anonymous

Westwood’s Gisler takes the P123 Senior Men, Gui takes 2nd; Tony Settel/Deno’s takes the 45+; Westwood’s Dave Linenberg wins overall and Mens 35; Steve Goldman takes Second in the Mens 35; Angel Martinez takes first in teh 4/5 with ARunggastco from DKNY in 2nd in the 4/5. Westwoods Kaplan takes the 55+; “2 Person Tandem”, Steve Goldman / Greg Cosgrove win by almost a full minute.

Anonymous

Medals from Marie De Rosa and a bunch of Deno’s guys (Luzio, Rafferty, Leung, Tomlinson). Kurt Gustaffson got 2nd in the masters crit but the result was disallowed since he was also on the NYC Open team.

Anonymous

Worth the drive. The course was tough but fun and the roads were nice. I think having it close to ESGs and later in the summer affected the turn out.

Chris M

Barely made it out on the bike this weekend, ‘cept for a group ride with some old guys on Sat. Tokeneke? All I did was toke an’ wee-wee…

Anonymous

It was a little wet, then got wetter on the last lap. Coming down the big hill
my rear wheel slid out but I didn’t fall, then the guy in front of me
laid it down. Then about 20 guys behind me fell. I stayed upright but was stopped standing up (with guys sliding by on the ground!!!), and couldn’t catch up.

Anonymous

You think Adler is sketchy, you have to watch all those wreckless riders in the ProTour peloton, there seems to be a crash in almost every ProTour race. They should learn how to handle their bikes from some of the local expert CAT1/2/3 heros – these guys really know how it’s done.

Anonymous

If you think Local 1s and 2s can ride better then pro tour riders. Try racing full out for 100 plus miles and then hitting a sprint at 35mphplus with 75 guys jockying for position. Most locals first would be off the back at mile 50 and if anyone could survive they would be to scared to contest. What nonsense…

Anonymous

Local riders, all the way from Cat 5 to 1 are better than protour riders.

Just look at Iban Mayo, what a jerk.

via crcanet

Could you pass the word with your members that there will be a change in configuration of the park lanes on Sunday, August 5th due to the NYC Half-Marathon presented by NIKE.

We are asking that all bikes use the Recreation Lane only between the hours of 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. Our course starts in E Drive at 85th Street, and runners will be heading south in the Vehicle Lanes for one complete loop. After their first loop they will continue south where they will exit at 7th Avenue heading to CPS. After that, the runners do not return to the park. We will post marshals throughout the course, but it would be helpful if you could post a notice on your site, or any other sites where you think this information might be useful .

frightened local racer

the protour guys are all super talented people riding on top of eachother at 35 mph pushing it to the limit. shit happens. The adler guys ride, and by that i mean basic bike handling skills, like shit. whenever they get close to anyone else, they freak out and look like they’re about to crash. big difference.

Anonymous

missed the point.

Local racers are better than pro’s because pro’s dope.

99% of us don’t (granted, there are idiots everywhere)

Anonymous

Looks to me as though both the Adler and United riders kept their cool and avoided causing a larger crash. That didn’t look like a freak out to me and there were lots of other riders around. I’m pretty impressed with their bike handling.

Anonymous

but why do people think that more tour riders have not adopted the praying mantis time trial position. Floyd used it to great advantage last year and Levi has had great success with it. I have read that its a harder position to ride in and control the bike, but the pros do hard for a living. Any thoughts?

jft

We could ask a similar question about more pro riders not adopting a position like Cancellara’s. Oh, wait, most have.

Personally I don’t change things myself due to just one or two people doing something different successfully. I *might* experiment or think about something based on one or two examples, but change — no?

I think most people are like that. Perhaps pro riders are similar.

Ben H.

The Floyd position got banned the day before the Tour started. The UCI said that your TT bars had to be parallel to the ground (a bit vague?). Several pros including Leipheimer and Cancellara had been training and developing the “praying mantis” positions all season and had to switch back right before the prologue to comply with the new UCI rule. It makes Cancellara’s ride in the prologue and Levi’s in the Stage 19 TT all the more impressive, although Levi’s position did have a bit of praying mantis to it.

Anonymous

Levi was doped.
4th fastest TT in Tour history? After 20 years of Indurain and Ullrich, and Armstrong on EPO? Riding for Discovery?

And it’s because of his TT position?

Maybe I’m wrong, and all of these doping stories have ruined my appreciation for great rides, but I don’t believe any of it any more.

Anonymous

Phil or Paul did mention before the coverage that there was a tailwind for most of the course.

I think this position (preying mantis) has been refined in the wind tunnel and all things being equal (power output), is the most aero. Zabriskie, who Phil and Paul continue to describe as having the most aero position on the road, seems to have taking a beating in some of the bigger races.

Anonymous

Ha!
It must have been the tailwind!
At the end of a three week race a rider who has done countless TT’s before in the tour wins one w/ astounding speed.
Yep, must have been the wind.

Anonymous

that this past winter he went into the wind tunnel with Steve Hed and this year he has riding his time trial bike 2/3 times a week to improve. He has been having good tt results this season.

JG

Maybe but dont use the fact that he had the 4th fastest TT in history as your reason. The fastest TT – Lemond the guy who swears to be the only clean Tour winner in the past 20 years. Levi maybe clean or may not but you cant use his TT as evidence of foul play.

Chris M

Not like it was the first TT Levi has ever won, or done well in. He has shown great TT skills in past, when at peak form. Early TT showed he entered race with less than peak form, and it clearly came on as the Tour progressed. Perhaps came in a bit undertrained, I would observe, which might have hurt him in first mountains and even cost him the Tour. Still, cant say he isnt a good TTer, though Im not suggesting they arent ALL doping, which is quite possible. I dont see how we can compare prev years TT times anyway, with diff weather and wind et al. Seems tough for a 50 km TT?

Anonymous

Not only due to weather, but also distance. There was an article on this in CycleSport some time ago and they said that several TT’s of Tour’s past were mis measured. They went back and remeasured and found them to be kilometers off.

Anonymous

Maybe the humidity in the air made in denser and that made it easier for Levi’s bald head to slice through it.

Jan did it in the Giro last year, Vino did it a couple weeks ago. A rider who underperforms a little in the mountains comes and smashes everybody in the TT is a highly dubious achievement.
It turned out Jan and Vino had blood transfusions. Why, after so many lies and disappointments, should I think any differently?

Chris M

Hey, I am not going to argue against the possibility of doping, but just suggesting that as a baseline, its possible to come into form during the race, and Levi showed this this year. I wouldnt say he underperformed in mtns in general, considering where he ended up vs the rest of the pack, in spite of not matching RAzzy and Alberto in final kicks. Also, I would speculate that last year he was off the dope for whatever reason, since he just didnt have the form at all vs this year, and vs previous years. Looks like he adjusted to the Disco “program” rather well!

lee#

Vaughters just inked a 2yr. with David Millar and also picked up Christian Vande velde, and Zabriskie from CSC for the same duration. My guess is that Floyd Landis will join the squad as well. They’re trying to workout something with Axel M. another close buddy to Landis. These guys are gonna come out swinging for the fences next year!!

Anonymous

No way, Lee. No way they would sign Floyd. Not until he admits it.
It would kill the team’s credibility, and thereby their only chance at a Tour invite.

It really is true what they say! You really do make the rest of us look smart.

Anonymous

The problem with Slipsteam signing him is that ASO does not like him at all. It’ll hurt their chances of getting into the Tour de France and the other big French and Belgian events they control.

The Fact Freeker

did you ever get those tubulars you were going to run at super high pressure? How’s that working out?

Anonymous

anything is possible. In light of the fact that we never saw Tyler in the pro peleton ever again says alot. Floyd’s chances are probably less. The article does open a sliver of possibility. One can only have hope. Most of you don’t it seems.

Anonymous

They all dope. Not every day/every guy. But at some point in the season or pre-season, they dope. All of them. They couldn’t be on a team at that level if they didn’t, because a star who dopes wouldn’t allow himself to have deputies who don’t.

jft

Did whoever posted those pictures to bikeforums get permission from the photographer to do so?

If not, it’s not right. Bike Forums is placing ads based on that, but the ads here on nyv are not seen by those viewers

Anonymous

why dont cha put out a fact freakin manhunt on whoever posted those pics and then “kill’em”.

Anon JErk

Who is this guy? He has something to say about everything. Lets get back to the helmet discussion from ’05.

phil

heard floyd was going to sign with slipstream as far back as january, well it was on the cards anyway. After all allen lim coaches them all so makes sense and dave z is good friends with floyd.

The team are a great bunch of guys, very young though so the experience will be great for them, got drunk with a load of them in san diego in jan and craig lewis did some talks at the landis camp.

Will be a good thing for us racing, I think its unfair to say everyone is doping but does seem to be pretty common, but lets face it drugs have been in all sports for decades, I think the way the tour dealt with it this year was much better.

The deal with floyd whether he was quilty or not was more a question of how they tested him, a bunch of bullshit, having the same tester doing the b sample is a joke, you would not have the same jury in a re trial so why with testing, its hardly like he was going to say yer your right I messed up the first time.

anything that helps cycling and stops the drugs has to be a good thing, so I think both the riders need to be willing to give up something, but then the testers need to get there shit together as well.

In this age of guilty till proven innocent, in cycling the testers and labs have to have there shit together, lets face it floyds career is over pretty much even if he does come out innocent, and I’m sure the legal fees are cheap as hell.

kozak

No they didnt ask to use the photos and yes
“that’s one of the dorkiest websites i’ve ever seen” as well

Anonymous

You’ll see I taught at the Guangdong Province Technical Cadre Advanced Training Institute.

nyah nyah nyam coward

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