Ben Harris’ Bear

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Sunday’s CAT4 race at Bear Mountain was all that it was billed to be – a cold, foggy battle of attrition that would leave 17 riders to battle it out in a fast downhill sprint. The JA team showed great strength and teamwork and controlled the front for much of the race. Following the last climb, they looked like the team to beat with 3 riders in the final selection including perennial strongman Kim “Mini-Tor” Riseth. But it was newcomer Greg Olsen (Johnathan Adler) that ended up nipping Chris Loudon (VisitBritain) at the line to take out a surprising, but well-deserved win for the Adler squad.

Sunday’s race unfolded much as was scripted. The first climb was incredibly leisurely and a small break had no problem rolling off the front. The field was roughly intact when it hit the bottom of the 2nd climb, but the Adler riders moved to the front and quickened the pace and the race began in earnest. The race went through its usual rounds of attrition each time up the climb, and there were 16 riders in the front group and a solo rider up the road when all was said and done.

The final group was thinned a bit by an uphill crash on the 4th lap (don’t ask me – I have no idea how it happened either) which took out a couple of favorites including Aaron Wolfe (Edgemont) and Andy Collins (JA), but the remaining riders began chasing the solo break seriously following the last climb. Several riders including JA’s Greg Olsen did a significant amount of work to close it down. Steven Goldman (Westwood Velo) had built a 60 sec. gap over more than 2 laps off the front but was caught with a little less than 10K to go.

After the catch, the front group seemed content to let the race finish in the traditional bunch sprint and the final 17 riders began pushing the pace without any significant attacks. The sprint opened up with several of the big guns on the front, but it was Greg Olsen that surprised them all with a photo-finish win over Chris Loudon at the line. Kim Riseth (JA), Brandan Lee (Kissena) and Ben Harris (Merrill Lynch/Hincapie Sportswear) rounded out the top 5. I saw Greg immediately after the finish, and I don’t think I have ever seen someone turn themselves inside out like that. He earned a well deserved win, and I look forward to seeing more epic rides out of him as the season progresses.

The ‘Jens Voigt’ award goes to Steven Goldman (Westwood Velo) for an impressive 2+ lap solo break that nearly stayed away – a very impressive ride.

My race numbers:

Distance: 56 miles

Time: 2:47:20

Work: 2110kJ

Normalized power (race): 283W

30 sec. power: 602W

1 min. power: 518W

5 min. power 375W

30 min. power 323W

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46 Comments

Ben

I’m such a fast finisher that you can’t even see me!!! Seriously, if you look at that finishing photo, I’m sandwiched between the Kissina rider and the edge of the road on the riders right. I was coming around him when he drifted right and almost put me into the finishing camera.

TS

For a different view – the numbers from the break in the masters’ trying to stick with ONeil and Buben – which I did not manage to do.
distance 56 mi.
time 2:25
2900 kj
5 min 430 watt
15 min 380 watts
unknown other

steve goldman

yo. first, awsome ride fellas!! you adler dudes really worked great. you had lots of muchachos in that last pack…all i’mgonna say is…dude up the road just wanted a tad of lOVE!!! and maybe 30 more seconds.

your dude who was working his tail off all ride. he was awsome, amazing he had enough punch at the end to make it to the line first.

FYI, can someone email me the tall irish dude’s name with the gotee (sorry i forgot it). i’ve met him a few times and would love to say hi.

funny, i was on that break 1:20minutes and about 1 in, feeling pretty good still (average 322 watts for the 1:20) my brain started acting funny. i let up for about 5minutes and had to smack my helmet like back when i used to play hockey. no avail. you guys were too strong. close but…NO CEEEEGAR!!!!

fyi, from my srm

warmup:
Duration: 22:38
Work: 127 kJ
TSS: 3.4 (intensity factor 0.302)
Norm Power: 101
Distance: 639 ft
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 523 94 watts
Heart Rate: 0 240 90 bpm
Cadence: 48 104 86 rpm
Speed: 0 19.3 0.3 mph
Torque: 0 714 97 lb-in

Tirotai Climb 1 with Group; mellow:
Duration: 12:24
Work: 204 kJ
TSS: 16.4 (intensity factor 0.892)
Norm Power: 299
Distance: 2.762 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 744 274 watts
Heart Rate: 95 240 142 bpm
Cadence: 55 102 84 rpm
Speed: 9.1 21.6 13.4 mph
Torque: 0 911 285 lb-in

climb 2 still with group:
Duration: 11:36
Work: 227 kJ
TSS: 20.8 (intensity factor 1.036)
Norm Power: 347
Distance: 3.1 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 751 327 watts
Heart Rate: 102 176 157 bpm
Cadence: 52 111 92 rpm
Speed: 10.7 26.8 16 mph
Torque: 0 728 305 lb-in

Solo Break 30 miles 1:23 solo:
Duration: 1:23:22
Work: 1515 kJ
TSS: 128.6 (intensity factor 0.962)
Norm Power: 322
Distance: 29.716 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 789 303 watts
Heart Rate: 115 191 160 bpm
Cadence: 31 119 87 rpm
Speed: 9.1 46.1 21.4 mph
Torque: 0 718 301 lb-in

Catch and recovery:
Duration: 3:06
Work: 40 kJ
TSS: 2.8 (intensity factor 0.737)
Norm Power: 247
Distance: 1.066 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 475 213 watts
Heart Rate: 137 165 150 bpm
Cadence: 68 103 91 rpm
Speed: 16.6 27 20.6 mph
Torque: 0 456 197 lb-in

Attack Again, maybe get luck, no luck:
Duration: 0:30
Work: 18 kJ
TSS: 2.6 (intensity factor 1.753)
Norm Power: 587
Distance: 0.209 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 197 800 587 watts
Heart Rate: 148 172 162 bpm
Cadence: 77 94 84 rpm
Speed: 19.6 27.7 25.1 mph
Torque: 198 866 594 lb-in

Entire ride (245w):
Duration: 3:07:08
Work: 2748 kJ
TSS: 250 (intensity factor 0.895)
Norm Power: 300
Distance: 57.231 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 845 245 watts
Heart Rate: 0 240 143 bpm
Cadence: 29 124 88 rpm
Speed: 0 49.6 18.3 mph
Torque: 0 911 240 lb-in

Peak 5s (799w):
Duration: 0:06
Work: 5 kJ
TSS: n/a
Norm Power: n/a
Distance: 256 ft
Min Max Avg
Power: 784 820 799 watts
Heart Rate: 119 140 131 bpm
Cadence: 88 101 95 rpm
Speed: 27.3 30.1 29.1 mph
Torque: 664 787 713 lb-in

Peak 10s (722w):
Duration: 0:10
Work: 7 kJ
TSS: n/a
Norm Power: n/a
Distance: 256 ft
Min Max Avg
Power: 681 751 722 watts
Heart Rate: 123 145 132 bpm
Cadence: 87 97 94 rpm
Speed: 16.8 18.3 17.5 mph
Torque: 593 728 653 lb-in

Peak 20s (654w):
Duration: 0:20
Work: 13 kJ
TSS: n/a
Norm Power: n/a
Distance: 752 ft
Min Max Avg
Power: 563 800 654 watts
Heart Rate: 150 171 161 bpm
Cadence: 77 94 84 rpm
Speed: 22.6 27.7 25.7 mph
Torque: 561 866 659 lb-in

Peak 30s (601w):
Duration: 0:30
Work: 18 kJ
TSS: 2.7 (intensity factor 1.793)
Norm Power: 601
Distance: 0.213 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 400 800 601 watts
Heart Rate: 150 178 164 bpm
Cadence: 77 94 84 rpm
Speed: 21.5 27.7 25.5 mph
Torque: 412 866 608 lb-in

Peak 1min (473w):
Duration: 1:00
Work: 28 kJ
TSS: 3.3 (intensity factor 1.406)
Norm Power: 471
Distance: 0.378 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 344 782 473 watts
Heart Rate: 136 174 164 bpm
Cadence: 80 97 87 rpm
Speed: 19.1 27.7 22.7 mph
Torque: 334 718 457 lb-in

Peak 2min (410w):
Duration: 2:00
Work: 49 kJ
TSS: 5.2 (intensity factor 1.251)
Norm Power: 419
Distance: 0.766 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 286 782 410 watts
Heart Rate: 136 174 165 bpm
Cadence: 80 100 90 rpm
Speed: 19.1 27.7 23 mph
Torque: 246 718 388 lb-in

Peak 5min (363w):
Duration: 5:00
Work: 109 kJ
TSS: 9.6 (intensity factor 1.076)
Norm Power: 360
Distance: 1.322 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 208 633 363 watts
Heart Rate: 129 191 164 bpm
Cadence: 70 106 84 rpm
Speed: 12.7 22.2 15.8 mph
Torque: 183 620 372 lb-in

Peak 10min (351w):
Duration: 10:00
Work: 211 kJ
TSS: 18.8 (intensity factor 1.061)
Norm Power: 355
Distance: 2.535 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 202 633 351 watts
Heart Rate: 129 191 166 bpm
Cadence: 62 106 83 rpm
Speed: 9.1 25.4 15.2 mph
Torque: 183 620 365 lb-in

Peak 20min (326w):
Duration: 20:00
Work: 391 kJ
TSS: 36.4 (intensity factor 1.045)
Norm Power: 350
Distance: 6.962 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 782 326 watts
Heart Rate: 121 191 163 bpm
Cadence: 31 118 87 rpm
Speed: 9.1 46.1 20.9 mph
Torque: 0 718 324 lb-in

Peak 30min (321w):
Duration: 30:00
Work: 578 kJ
TSS: 48.6 (intensity factor 0.986)
Norm Power: 330
Distance: 10.127 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 633 321 watts
Heart Rate: 129 191 162 bpm
Cadence: 59 116 87 rpm
Speed: 9.1 40.9 20.3 mph
Torque: 0 668 321 lb-in

Peak 60min (308w):
Duration: 1:00:00
Work: 1110 kJ
TSS: 95 (intensity factor 0.975)
Norm Power: 327
Distance: 21.347 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 782 308 watts
Heart Rate: 115 191 161 bpm
Cadence: 31 119 86 rpm
Speed: 9.1 46.1 21.4 mph
Torque: 0 718 310 lb-in

Ben

First wattage is average, second is normalized

Climb 1
12:40
263W/294W

Climb 2
10:55
305W/327W

Climb 3
11:00
295W/315W

Climb 4
11:10
287W/307W

Mike G

Nice race Steve. They were working like dogs; Always fun to have positive racing rather than negative racing.
Nice job on saturday at Flanders! saw you won the 35= in the TT.

did you guys see the wreck? i thought i heard it but bing bang boom bye bye. what happened?

Jay F.

Steve Goldman is an animal. Truly an impressive ride. It was fun and nervewracking to watch from the pace car. Awesome effort.

Jay F.

Steve Goldman is an animal. Truly an impressive ride. It was fun and nervewracking to watch from the pace car. Awesome effort.

lee3

Congrats JA – I was pulling for my boy A. Collins. I thought he would be the "secret weapon". I sensed that he was ramping up under radar. Can anyone shed some light on the uphill crash? Anyone from pace-car see this unfold?

Jamie – great job on Race Marshall coordination! Mike G., as always, you kept it together nicely-hats off to ya. Basil M. was the coolest dude I met that day and very keenly aware of the sports big picture. I can see why riders like ridin for’em. If your’re a young promising rider, you are doing yourself an injustice by not contacting this gent!

Jonathan P.

what’s the diffference between average watts and normalized watts?

to Mike G – assume you’re referring to the crash near the finish which i didn’t see it because I was dropped but my teammate said someone just fell over by himself on the last climb (extreme fatigue?) and took out a couple of other riders while also preventing the chase group from hooking back on.

shaw

i’ll add my congrats/thanks to adler, who really made the race. and to steve, your break was so good i kept thinking the marshalls had the wrong field when we kept getting time splits like "1:30".

K King

Mike Green’s comment about Filipe Capala tells the story. I never even considered something like junior gears but…..

I was suprised last night to see he got "only" 8th because he really seemed to be the strongest 4 left on the last lap.

Very impressive race.

Also I’m assuming Almonte another junior was in the crash on lap 4 up Tiorati because he was strong also and then disappeared.

Aaron

Uphill Crash…
This happened just as we were starting to go uphill again after the flat section, about 2/3rds up the hill. So we slowed from about 27mph to 20 at that point. I’m guessing the group was starting to bunch up, and 2 (maybe 3) guys in front of me someone must have swerved and clipped the wheel of a NYVelocity rider, I think. He went down instantly, I crashed over him. Someone ran over my rear wheel (it’s done) and landed on top of me.

While waiting for the wheel van I remember giving someone a push to get going again, and looking at a long tear down the middle of his shorts.

Anthony Accardi stopped to give me his wheel just as the van pulled up. My mistake to put my wheels in early at the bottom of the pile.

Great race by JA. Nice job by Capala, too.

Ben

Philip had a huge race and should get serious props for contesting the sprint with Jr. gearing. I was spun out with a 53/12 so I can only imagine what his cadence was. Great race Philip!!!

shaw

i spoke to philip after the race and he said he only had a 44×12! too bad, he was strong. great ride

Loudon

Congrats to Greg and JA. You guys made it a great race. I was right behind the crash and lucky to swing around it. It seemed to me like someone had some issues while shifting. This guy tips over to the right and takes out the 2 guys next to him like dominos. But I was cross eyed at the time thinking about the Lucky Charms I had for breakfast and wondering if I could turn that into a joke for O’Malley which might cause him to laugh, cramp and get off the damn front on the climb…

From the Visit Britain perspective big props have to go out to Ken King. I obviously wanted a sprint and by the end of the race our only concern outside the sprint itself was an attack in the last couple miles through the uphill sections prior to the feedzone. Ken got on point through there and buried himself to make sure it all stayed together.

K King

so what is Capala’s background?

At Jiminy I warmed up on a trainer next to him in the parking lot and he had 3 guys with him helping out. I assumed it was relatives or maybe his Dad and coaches.

Its great to see strong, motivated juniors racing.

CPricey

Perspective from the front of the crash:

I&#8217;m the NYvelocity rider that went down on the hill.
As Aaron said, the pack was coming off a flattish, downhill section of the climb. The pack came together as the road tilted up. We were at least three wide and someone to the right of me (?) either stood-up or pulled a miss shift while climbing. Anyway he went hard to the right and his rear cut across my front wheel. I went down instantly (oxygen debt kills reaction quality) and you all know the rest, domino pile up with about three guys going over the top of myself, and more down behind. Props to rider who road over my head that&#8217;s about the only part of the crash I really remember.

Anyway, Aaron thanks for the push once I got back on the bike, it was a classy move; too bad the shorts want to come along for the ride.

Adler: I wish I could have seen how you handled the remained of the race. It was top rate work up to that point, great race.

Steve G

i need Roger Aspholms legs to complete that break. u dudes see how he hung in there aginst 3, 4 of pinky LG jerseys in the pro1.2 now THAT dude is an animal.
fyi, my weight is about 168; i find that steady stuff pretty fun, and have a max hrm around 173 and TT around 171. i can peg it there and sometimes once i get into a rhythm, it will come down to about 160, 165ish. i think the average for the break at 322 watts was about 160ish ; i started working with a guy peter cummings this year, one of the first certified in power, and its been awsome. mainly riding few, but far more focused miles.

you guys were awsome coming back. the dude in the pace car was freaking me out because the more he would lean out of the car with his big ole’ camera, the more i knew the action was on. he must have gotten some good shots.

dude, if you could email me some, i’d LOVE to get some. happy to help with moola if necessary.

that kid in the pink polska was awsome as well. he won colts neck the week before. kid is gonna be sick. i’ll always remember finishing right next to him. he was awsome. 16.

avg power is easy. absolute average. normalized power is more a calculated power offset by downhills, zero power, high speed, etc. On cyclingpeaks.com they explain it pretty well. that output is from cycling peaks a totally awomse piece of software for $75 if you have a polar, srm, powertap, etc. just awsome for aggregating and evaluating data.

anyway, u guys were great. the Adler team deserved the win big time. i was super impressed. and the guy who won deserved a ton of credit. i remember he was working hard before the break. hit a few attacks many many times. and i thought he attacked again on the flats to setup a team mate but he was the diesel and brought her home.

i’ve been in a lot of cat4 rcaes that have negative racing!! BORING!!! we should all commit ourselves to NOT do that. win big. dont be afraid to lose. go on a flier, make wild stuff happen. be smart. worrk hard and good stuff will come.

check out the uscf rankings for nj and ny and you’ll see mamny of your guys up there.!

ride hard, raceharder.
-steve

SG

Spinout tip: the first 4 gears of an 11-23 mate perfectly with the back 6 of a 12-25; whala. a perfect 11-25 duraace custom cogset. many have one or the other laying around. combine them and have ammunition for either of the extremes. i run that, works buttery.

what was with the ducks dudes!!! they had a death wish!

Jay F.

Steve G., shoot me your email address at jayfitzgerald AT yahoo.com and I’ll make sure you get a copy of the DVD. I was anxious for a very long time it would be a vanity video of only you, but I did have MAD faith in my team to do the pro catch just before the finish.

Porter Fulmer

The crazy guy in the pace car was me. That 28 mile solo run was insane, I hope the footage I shoot of you in various locations will due your effort justice.

K King

Your teamate I’m guessing Chapman, deserves some credit for helping you stay away as long as you did, since more than a few guys had no idea you were up the road or what team you were on, and he spent a lot of time at or near the front before blowing his wheel in a pot hole.

sg

28 was nice. 28.9 would have been better and frankly, i was ready to buy everyone a fat free frozen yogurt if you guys maye just decided to play the late inning chess games. fitzgerald used the right term – PRO Catch. noone laid up, everyone worked hard and you kept reeling it in right till the finish. frankly, i’m not sure you could have left that any later. 10k from the end was off. it was at the church road on that first pitch or two. i showed only about 4 minutes on my srm, figure 1 mile. 28mile break was good. a 29 would have been more fun. but frankly, and i hope everone on this thread agrees. a few of you may one day be pros or have a career in this. for the rest of our our great joys are our familes, our kids (i have 3 awsome kids < 5 who were all there) and the knowledge that you were doing it. you gave it your all. a win wouldnt have changed my life in the least. and a loss by that dude fro adler who DID win, if he had lost, would not have diminished the respect i had for his constant work ethic out there.
cycling is often about winning. thats part of it. but its not even close to the most meaningful component.
dudes later.
glad to have had the fun of posting here today. and the ride yesterday. it was great seeing a lot of your team staying to congratulate you winner and the 3rd place dude, who also did a ton of hard work. u all did.

NJ State TT champsionships in 3 weeks. I won Flanders TT in the MEns 35+ nipping shawn ricci on saturday y 2 seconds. so at miimum i got in a sweet 1:27 minutes of wicked tempo work training on sunday, and had a hoot..

if i can ever help anyone, in any way, let me know. nitey nite.

Waugh

Totally. It looks like I just finished a pint of Haagen Dazs. I had 5 layers on to stay warm in the "feed zone."

Spare Us

You guys are retards. Less data, more results. You won’t get fast staring at a computer screen.

Craig Richie

if being a computer geek cyclist is so bad, than why are so many of the top guys so into it, and yes even the fours. Steve Goldman and Ben are good examples, they have learned to train smart and you dont have to look at their numbers if you don’t want to, though I find them interesting. Just check out their results. Awesome rides, both of you!

lee3

I agree. I dont own an SRM, but I scrutinize the sheot out of my polar – software and all. I think the dudes that can read and now how to use that stuff are just smart at utilizing thier training. Ben’s is cool hell and I’m actually learning from his segments. You other guys sound like my grandmother – her VCR still blinks 12 oclock everytime I visit her. Its like technology is the friggen boogey man.
Speaking of Boogey men – did I see Jeff Pellis @ bear? There was this dude in a Fireman kit racing and his bib read "Back Off 200 ft" I love that. Whats up with him these days? Isnt he JA affiliated?

Retards United

It’s ok to analyze your data. But it’s retarded to share it with the world and scrutinize it publically to agonizing detail. It doesn’t mean crap at the end of the day. Bike races aren’t won on numbers, they are won on bikes. Learn how to ride them. A Wolfe may have nice numbers, but he crashed out going uphill.

Hater

Hey Retards United, get your own site if you don’t like it.

Even though it’s not Hater’s style, Hater thinks Ben and Steve G. are two of the coolest guys in cycling.

And Hater hates everyone and everything.

SG

data is just that numbers. it aint racing. it aint strategy and it isnt heart and soul. but for some, for me, its beena great thing. for whatever reason, maybe as a computer geek, i find the data something i can relate to. at 280 watts, 300 watts, 320 watts everything hurts . having apower meter to remind myself i have this wattage is critical. frankly, i think its one of the most valueable tooks in a TT. and i TT a lot. i know my best wattages for 20k 40k 80ketc. andyes, i factor in that maybe i will have a record aay but iant gonna toss up some 50% greater number. and when everything is hurting, but i know i am within a range, its easier to put the pain aside.
in that race sunday, i knew i had that first hours wattage and just kept pushing right at that cp60 figure. what i did was misguage the time left. or needed more watts. on the climbs up tirotai, i wanted to put up near record times for myself, i’ve been on that climb, i know the watts i’ve done on it, and i just pegged that figure. if you go just off perception, that could range far too much from fatigue, hydration, being hyped up about being off the front and be chased down by hungry wolves;

when we climbed up the second climb, i knew the wattage we were doing, it had some better nip to it, but it was well within my green area, so that is confidence inspiringi actually think the power meter gives you certain confidence . imagine being in a weight lifting competition, knowing you’ve trained at benching 400 lbs, and the current round of lifting is at 310; you know you got in the bag. i remember carmichael saying lance was better than ever before; it wasnt conjecture, or guesswork. he new his watts. question was, what did others have.

but i agree 100% that once its together, like when it came together, or any other time "its on", then you gotta just go, you eithe stick the pace, whatever the heck the srm says or OTB you go.

for me, the watts, periodization, critical power ranges, etc. brought a level of science to the whole thing, which just madeit more compelling.

but dont assume for a second that power meter people are just math geeks. i challenge anyone to question my competitive spirit or cold-blooded instincts when its go time. i’ll give a 150% till i keel over to get to that line even if a big readout on my SRM says "STOP!! DEATH IMMINENT".

to each is one’s own. whatever makes you better, if legal, use it to your best advantage.

Hater

Nice job, Goldman. Post something thoughtful and passionate and everybody goes away. Don’t you know how this thing works???????

No more guys from Jersey on the site – that’s what I say. Or at the races either – then we could just roll around like always.

Anonymously Eddie Burlem

Dude power files are meaningless if you dont give your weight.

Then again if you give your weight we will all know why your a 4 and not a 2.

Make all your fancey suffer number mean something and give your weight.

If your 115 lb and can ride for 5 hrs ant 280 watts then vrooom to you, if your 400lbs then its not as impressive.

Anonymously Eddie Burlem

Ben Harris

Eddie –

I am 158 lbs. I think Steve said that he was 168 lbs earlier. I did a blood based threshold test last week and my power at OBLA was 315W, and based on Steve’s posting, I would guess he is around 325W-330W. That makes my power to weight at OBLA 4.4 W/kg and Steve’s 4.3 W/kg. Based on the numbers we would be roughly equivalent climbers, but Steve would probably beat me in a TT.

enough

i actually voted to keep anonymous posting but after reading the one below from "Don’t you want to know", i’m taking my vote back. unbelievably stupid and pathetic.

Alex -Editor

I wanted to keep it anonymous up until a few weeks ago too. But I think we have crossed the line and I worry that we may be doing the community a disservice at this point.

lee3

Alex, I really dont think there is a way to avoid anonymous posts. There are so many ways to circumvent honesty. I think its just better to remove it. I like the posts that pose themselves as parks and pro-riders. They’re pretty funny and would be a shame to lose those shades of personality anonymous as they may be.

lee3

meet me @ the start line of Blueberry so everyone can watch me hand the boss a piano on the hills.

SG

Ben, you’re just about on the money. MY Functional Threshold is about 335 or so. Lately creeping up but the curve is getting harsh. Actually, i find a standard Coggans curve a bit off for me. I have a reasonable sprint, nothing that will pop any lights..max about 995 watts for 5 seconds, only once a smidgeon over 1k, but my cp180 and 120 and 90 are percentage wise far higher. i think that comes from just years of playing sports of varius types. probably hockey. i could always do double and triple shifts and get the snot knocked out of me in front of the net but not get fatigued.

i’d love to hear if guys have good thoughts on offseason training for improving a sprint. sure, i like trying break aways but it would be nice to sit in, wait till the last 4, 6k, drill it then unleash some 1200 watt monstrocity. i always feel average in those sprints watching the real fast twitch monsters let loose. hence, my efforts always to spoil that party.

u guys know your wattage during sprints? would love to hear what guys are punching out…

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