Maybe a week to test the 'A' sample and nine weeks to test the 'B' sample? Could be possible, but smells fishy to me.
If the article is correct, the UCI intended to cover up the positive and Contador hastily released the results, when they knew they would be outed by the German journalist.
There's nothing fishy about the 2 month wait for us to know, its actually good they waited till the 2nd sample was tested so we wouldn't start up with, lets wait till the B sample is tested BS. A and B are positive for the clen and no matter how much THAT is the fishy part! He's going down otherwise the UCI would of buried it already, its out because the case is moving forward.
From tainted Columbian cough drops, anemic dogs, sick grandmas needing EPO, secret police dropping dope into water bottles, chimeric twins, and now tainted Spanish meat the never ending comedic excuses never ends! I could of never thought of most of those at the time of the accusation, there must be an excuse generator somewhere, I could use it to get out of my recent cop spy cam intersection ticket.
If you were going to transfuse your own blood or just spun red blood cells (which in itself is not detectable) you would want it on the rest day before the Tourmalet.
given that Contador's defense Dr. is the Dr. for Vacansoleil, I'm leaning to this explanation.
“If the data is correct then it’s most likely that it is a ‘Landis’,” Damsgaard told Danish TV station TV2 via SMS. “It would suggest that he has received a transfusion of his own blood, taken out a few months earlier when he used clenbuterol, which he has gotten back into his body.”
Damsgaard refers to the case of Floyd Landis, whose positive test for exogenous testosterone during the 2006 Tour is still disputed by the American. Landis admitted to having doped through much of his career, including that Tour, but continues to deny using testosterone; one of the explanations offered for the testosterone positive is that the blood he illegally transfused during the race was taken from his body during a time when he was using the substance.
I might agree with that excuse having spent some time out west around a feed lot. Every other day, they get a shot in the ass filled with a cocktail of growth hormones, antibiotics, and not to mention what the feed is laced with. Factory meats are scary.
Anyone who regularly eats supermarket beef, pork or chicken would probably get popped for low concentrations of surprising contaminants -- did you see Food, Inc? We typically have no idea how that "Manager's Special" makes it on the meat aisle shelf.
Contador should just have his 'B' sample tested at a lab that only barely meets the UCI requirement (not by 400x). Then his 'B' sample will be negative and he'll be clear.
"so he tested + for 1/400th concentration...
can't really say he tested positive can we? there is a speed limit, he was going 1 mph in a 400 mph zone???"
We will wait and have to see what that really means. Keep in mind that FL made the point that his T levels was actually low. It was the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone that was elevated....
The authorities were saying, "he had 11 times normal testosterone levels!!!", which wasn't apparently true.
Is the 1/400th thing some sort of spin by UCI and team Contador, or proof that the got some banned substance from tainted food? I guess we need to know more.
Sastre is squeaky in Spanish, as he climbed 4 min slower than LA/MP up Alpe D'Huez, and at the same time put 2 min into Cadel...that performance alone makes 2008 a "clean" race in my mind...
The concentration was "400 time(s) less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect," the UCI said in a statement.
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so he tested + for 1/400th concentration...
can't really say he tested positive can we? there is a speed limit, he was going 1 mph in a 400 mph zone???
total BS, he should not be going thru this circus...what the entire sport is really, in the words of my favorite philospher, Brittany Spears, "just like a circus"...
so from LA (1999-2005), FL (2006), Rasmussen/Conti (2007), Conti (2009, 2010)...leaves only Sastre (2008) as squeaky for the decade...
previous decade, Big Mig (1991-1995), BJ "60%" (1996), Jan (1997), Pantani (1998)...
thats only the top step, so tell me, why does anyone even attempt to "believe" pro sports are "clean"...
very sad...
or the rules have to be updated, because the hypocrisy on both sides is delusional...
"Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills"
Not saying he isnt effective now but if he were able to manage himself on hilly'r courses, he would be pretty much untouchable. His range of wins would also improve.
these guys win races that suit them, last time someone won PR, LBL, GT, One week, 3 weeks...Bernard Hinault...
Fignon (RIP) came close: MSR, FW, GT...
Lemond WC, GT...
Armstrong single day dope pre 96, GT doped post 98...
and I've got 2 tickets to Tenerife!!!
Conconi, Ferrai, Cecchini, Fuentes, Austrian Human Plasma Banks, don't kid yourself where and how these guys "recover" so fast or TT/Climb so fast for that matter...
I forget what I was saying...
Back to driving a taxi...
They do have a jersey for the most well-rounded cyclist. It's called the Yellow Jersey, usually 'all rounders' are awarded it.
With that said, they're not rounded enough to finish a race like a specialist can.
Well, back to cutting this hair...
What I find hilarious is the concept that pro sprinters have an easy ride to the finish line - "armchair". In fact, a pro sprint effort is something akin to a flat out 10k tt, with a kilo ride thrown in at the end. They are brutally hard efforts and many super-fast amateurs never see the light of day, once in the pros, because they simply don't have the strength to make it to the end. Cavendish is superb in hard track events (helloooo Madison!) can ride a prologue very well when needed, is somehow is capable of winning a Milano San Remo, and can finish a grand tour in contention for the Green jersey. He's plenty strong, don't worry. He's the fastest road sprinter (along with Pettachi) in the world and very rightly focusses his physical development on winning Tour stages, the biggest payday for both him and his team. Watch him when he ages - say post 30 years old and the speed (perhaps) begins to diminish. He'll turn Sean Kelly on you and show great depth.
"Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills"
as said previously, it's honestly a tragedy that people who really know what's wrong with the world and how to fix it are cutting hair, driving cabs, and posting on nyv. i am frankly amazed that cav managed to get where he is without 7:59's input
is what he is - good in the last 150 meters. Positioning is no walk in the park so tyler and griepal get the edge there. Tyler has had plenty of train leadouts and cav just goes around him in the last 150 meters.
Thor is pretty much out of the picture for green jersey's.
Griepal isnt as fast as Cav.
Haussler can be beat Cav if he can keep the sport from beating up his knee.
Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills
They can't do what you do and you can't do what they do.
Respect each other for what they are good at. When was
the last time thy gave out a jersey for the most well rounded
cyclist. Cav having a team to protect him is they proven way
to get the job done. Without his killa sprint it doesn't matter
how committed your teamates are.
except Farrar is kicking Cavendish ass in any race that is actually riding yer bike and not getting an armschair from team mates...will Cav ever get top 10 at RVV...NO Fn Way!
Cav is a character, and a great acceleration, but he will never win a race that has hills, wind, or solo effort involved...Farrar will win Prologues, Sprints, TTT, Cobbles...Much more well rounded than Cavenpunkassbitch, like a the tough chiwaawaa with a big gang behind him, Cav is not so good without a dedicated team...Punk Ass Bitch!
Farrar will win Green at Tour, Win PR, Win RVV, Cav is going to get the cold steel of the barriers and make that horse gapped tooth HGH overload go bye bye...
Agh, finally one that made me laugh again. I guess its all the insults we'll get from the riders till Ricco is back in action again. I guess I'm not the only one who hates those Transitions commercials!
You can't be funny trying to make fun of Fabian- he is too good and noble for that. Spartacus humping Bjarnes leg. ha ha-lame. Stick to making fun of the obvious ones; Lance, Vino, Evans, Contador...
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Add a comment...had informed me that they had changed the course & taken the hills out of milano - san remo before our boy cavendish took this years win...
...i like to stay on top of this stuff...
...love, bgw...
West Coast:
Maybe a week to test the 'A' sample and nine weeks to test the 'B' sample? Could be possible, but smells fishy to me.
If the article is correct, the UCI intended to cover up the positive and Contador hastily released the results, when they knew they would be outed by the German journalist.
Cancellara off to BMC.
There's nothing fishy about the 2 month wait for us to know, its actually good they waited till the 2nd sample was tested so we wouldn't start up with, lets wait till the B sample is tested BS. A and B are positive for the clen and no matter how much THAT is the fishy part! He's going down otherwise the UCI would of buried it already, its out because the case is moving forward.
From tainted Columbian cough drops, anemic dogs, sick grandmas needing EPO, secret police dropping dope into water bottles, chimeric twins, and now tainted Spanish meat the never ending comedic excuses never ends! I could of never thought of most of those at the time of the accusation, there must be an excuse generator somewhere, I could use it to get out of my recent cop spy cam intersection ticket.
Very suspicious how it took two months for this to come out. This article would explain that (Edwig @12:42PM refers to it)
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5846/German-journalist-claims-UCI-denied-Alberto-Contador-positive-test-says-rider-may-have-received-transfusions.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+velonation_pro_cycling+(Cycling+News+&+Race+Results+|+VeloNation.com)&utm_content=Twitter
The timing makes sense.
If you were going to transfuse your own blood or just spun red blood cells (which in itself is not detectable) you would want it on the rest day before the Tourmalet.
given that Contador's defense Dr. is the Dr. for Vacansoleil, I'm leaning to this explanation.
“If the data is correct then it’s most likely that it is a ‘Landis’,” Damsgaard told Danish TV station TV2 via SMS. “It would suggest that he has received a transfusion of his own blood, taken out a few months earlier when he used clenbuterol, which he has gotten back into his body.”
Damsgaard refers to the case of Floyd Landis, whose positive test for exogenous testosterone during the 2006 Tour is still disputed by the American. Landis admitted to having doped through much of his career, including that Tour, but continues to deny using testosterone; one of the explanations offered for the testosterone positive is that the blood he illegally transfused during the race was taken from his body during a time when he was using the substance.
Doesn't matter what happens, the house always wins
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4796/Quick-Steps-Iljo-Keisse-has-two-y...
P90X?
Its 40x not 400x.
Fan boy, you should interview her. Let us know how that goes.
Hey can we get back to something positive (no pun intended)? How 'bout an interview with Evie Stevens on her worlds TT experience?
Vacansoleil is the rock racing of europe
I might agree with that excuse having spent some time out west around a feed lot. Every other day, they get a shot in the ass filled with a cocktail of growth hormones, antibiotics, and not to mention what the feed is laced with. Factory meats are scary.
Anyone who regularly eats supermarket beef, pork or chicken would probably get popped for low concentrations of surprising contaminants -- did you see Food, Inc? We typically have no idea how that "Manager's Special" makes it on the meat aisle shelf.
You would eat a nice steak too if you spent last year's Tour eating scraps under the table.
Contador should just have his 'B' sample tested at a lab that only barely meets the UCI requirement (not by 400x). Then his 'B' sample will be negative and he'll be clear.
Danielson now moves up to 8th on vuelta GC! Promise fufilled.
Can someone make a Godfather-style montage of Contador, Ricco, Mosquera and Garcia getting busted as Lance baptizes Cinco Armstrong?
No Ezequiel!!!! Say it isn't so.
Here's some science on the Berto thing:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2010/09/contador-tests-positive.html
it would mean he was still exceeding the speed limit, if only by a tiny fraction
"so he tested + for 1/400th concentration...
can't really say he tested positive can we? there is a speed limit, he was going 1 mph in a 400 mph zone???"
Or his masking agent didn't quite do the trick.
Your responsible for whats in your system. He is a doper.
We will wait and have to see what that really means. Keep in mind that FL made the point that his T levels was actually low. It was the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone that was elevated....
The authorities were saying, "he had 11 times normal testosterone levels!!!", which wasn't apparently true.
Is the 1/400th thing some sort of spin by UCI and team Contador, or proof that the got some banned substance from tainted food? I guess we need to know more.
Sastre is squeaky in Spanish, as he climbed 4 min slower than LA/MP up Alpe D'Huez, and at the same time put 2 min into Cadel...that performance alone makes 2008 a "clean" race in my mind...
The concentration was "400 time(s) less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect," the UCI said in a statement.
_________________________________________________
so he tested + for 1/400th concentration...
can't really say he tested positive can we? there is a speed limit, he was going 1 mph in a 400 mph zone???
total BS, he should not be going thru this circus...what the entire sport is really, in the words of my favorite philospher, Brittany Spears, "just like a circus"...
but squeeky on Sastre? I doubt squeeky exists at that level.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE68T04620100930
so from LA (1999-2005), FL (2006), Rasmussen/Conti (2007), Conti (2009, 2010)...leaves only Sastre (2008) as squeaky for the decade...
previous decade, Big Mig (1991-1995), BJ "60%" (1996), Jan (1997), Pantani (1998)...
thats only the top step, so tell me, why does anyone even attempt to "believe" pro sports are "clean"...
very sad...
or the rules have to be updated, because the hypocrisy on both sides is delusional...
whoopee, they all dope, even the beloved jens.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5836/Contador-positive-for-clenbuterol...
Dyoh! Adios.
Nice work. This one is one of the best of the year!
from garmin to rs to bmc...thats it...he must have jerry mcguire for an agent
Errr Lance is as toxic as a tornado in Tennessee.
ya think?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Isle_of_Man_topograph...
Its all hills dumb dumb
"Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills"
Not saying he isnt effective now but if he were able to manage himself on hilly'r courses, he would be pretty much untouchable. His range of wins would also improve.
just sayin..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA43ETEU1Vg
But is anyone else wondering if T Phinney moved to BMC to distance himself from his mentor LA?
...won by Steven Rooks in 1989.
Two different dudes..
Now back to these donuts...
i love this dude's random-ass posts
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these guys win races that suit them, last time someone won PR, LBL, GT, One week, 3 weeks...Bernard Hinault...
Fignon (RIP) came close: MSR, FW, GT...
Lemond WC, GT...
Armstrong single day dope pre 96, GT doped post 98...
and I've got 2 tickets to Tenerife!!!
Conconi, Ferrai, Cecchini, Fuentes, Austrian Human Plasma Banks, don't kid yourself where and how these guys "recover" so fast or TT/Climb so fast for that matter...
I forget what I was saying...
Back to driving a taxi...
Green Jersey is the all arounder: Yellow is the "heavyweight champion of the world" the strongest man alive.
Said like a pro...wait a minute...
They do have a jersey for the most well-rounded cyclist. It's called the Yellow Jersey, usually 'all rounders' are awarded it.
With that said, they're not rounded enough to finish a race like a specialist can.
Well, back to cutting this hair...
What I find hilarious is the concept that pro sprinters have an easy ride to the finish line - "armchair". In fact, a pro sprint effort is something akin to a flat out 10k tt, with a kilo ride thrown in at the end. They are brutally hard efforts and many super-fast amateurs never see the light of day, once in the pros, because they simply don't have the strength to make it to the end. Cavendish is superb in hard track events (helloooo Madison!) can ride a prologue very well when needed, is somehow is capable of winning a Milano San Remo, and can finish a grand tour in contention for the Green jersey. He's plenty strong, don't worry. He's the fastest road sprinter (along with Pettachi) in the world and very rightly focusses his physical development on winning Tour stages, the biggest payday for both him and his team. Watch him when he ages - say post 30 years old and the speed (perhaps) begins to diminish. He'll turn Sean Kelly on you and show great depth.
"Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills"
as said previously, it's honestly a tragedy that people who really know what's wrong with the world and how to fix it are cutting hair, driving cabs, and posting on nyv. i am frankly amazed that cav managed to get where he is without 7:59's input
best rider on UCI points for 2010: Rodriguez/Katyooshah!!!
Cav is like Serena
Tyler Farrar is Roddick
Contador Federer
J Lo Bieber
what's the difference between cav sprinting talking or making 15 second sweet love?
its all ejaculation
http://www.petitiononline.com/pro12/petition.html
For p123 race at prospect on sunday!!!!
is what he is - good in the last 150 meters. Positioning is no walk in the park so tyler and griepal get the edge there. Tyler has had plenty of train leadouts and cav just goes around him in the last 150 meters.
Thor is pretty much out of the picture for green jersey's.
Griepal isnt as fast as Cav.
Haussler can be beat Cav if he can keep the sport from beating up his knee.
Cav would be much more effective if he trained on hills
sprinters aren't cyclist too.
They can't do what you do and you can't do what they do.
Respect each other for what they are good at. When was
the last time thy gave out a jersey for the most well rounded
cyclist. Cav having a team to protect him is they proven way
to get the job done. Without his killa sprint it doesn't matter
how committed your teamates are.
Pro 12 ha you wish.
I figured as much but my feelings were hurt. I gets no love from Giancarlo. So much for me buying a Bianchi now...!
except Farrar is kicking Cavendish ass in any race that is actually riding yer bike and not getting an armschair from team mates...will Cav ever get top 10 at RVV...NO Fn Way!
Cav is a character, and a great acceleration, but he will never win a race that has hills, wind, or solo effort involved...Farrar will win Prologues, Sprints, TTT, Cobbles...Much more well rounded than Cavenpunkassbitch, like a the tough chiwaawaa with a big gang behind him, Cav is not so good without a dedicated team...Punk Ass Bitch!
Farrar will win Green at Tour, Win PR, Win RVV, Cav is going to get the cold steel of the barriers and make that horse gapped tooth HGH overload go bye bye...
Yeahunn!!! Woo Haa!!!
Heinrich! Thor! Farrar!!!
If AVD changes his mind and adds a race it will most likely be p123 and not p12.
What about the 3's homie?
No love for the 3's??!
Sign this and send it to other PRO 123 racers who you think may be interested
http://www.petitiononline.com/pro12/petition.html
Thanks!
Agh, finally one that made me laugh again. I guess its all the insults we'll get from the riders till Ricco is back in action again. I guess I'm not the only one who hates those Transitions commercials!
My next cover blurb will win a Pulitzer.
...very funny & wrong & thus very right about that image of the 'cav' in a porkpie hat w/ a cigar in his mouth...
...just sayin'...
...love, bgw...
Nobody is too noble for the Toto!
You can't be funny trying to make fun of Fabian- he is too good and noble for that. Spartacus humping Bjarnes leg. ha ha-lame. Stick to making fun of the obvious ones; Lance, Vino, Evans, Contador...
sweet. toto is back!
That Transitions Lenses line is the funniest I've heard all year.
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