Hopeful Friday 5/15/2009

calm down cat 4 masters

Criterium NY @ Floyd Bennette Field 5/16/09...P123 Race

Jackie Simes 1st place
Stephan Dioslaki 2nd Place

for photos goto:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74794148@N00/3542647316/in/set-721576184125...

recap

FOGGY Rainly 45 lap race....From lap 2 Dioslaki went head to head with 20 yr old pro Jackie Simes. After dropping (in short order) their Mengoni breakaway 3rd guy David, Simes & Dioslaki HAAAMMERED, lapping the field until 3 laps to go when the 2 almost caught the field for a 2nd time.

Jackie managed to shake Stepahn at that point joining & immediately attacking the field for the win. So ultimately Jacki lapped the field twice. Steve continued on but just missed lapping the field for the 2nd time and got a well deserved and Impressive 2nd place on the day...

Here are a few shots from the Tour de Parc - from the cat 5, Masters, and cat 4 race. Enjoy! Eric Robertson

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8562469@N08/sets/72157618320926345

Good Morning Phil.

when did the master's 40+ turn into cat 4s?

is this a side effect of flomax?

CRCA juniors cleaned up in Syracuse -- three of them are locals.

Alder, Ralpha, Sanchez-Metro, TeaNY, Global Lactate. Got it, thanks.

Criterium:
Jeff Ingraham 1st Men 4
David Tacheny 2nd Men 5 under 35
Tom Luzio 3rd 45+
Steve Tinston 3rd 55+
Gabrielle Fisher 3rd Women 4

Time Trial:
Jeff Ingraham 1st Men 4
David Carr 3rd Men 4
Xieyue Fan 1st Women 4
Gabrielle Fisher 3rd Women 4
Jordan Strober 3rd Jr Men 15-18

Road Race:
Brian Rafferty 2nd 45+

Omnium:
Jeff Ingraham 1st Men 4
Patrick Dietz 3rd Men 4
Gabrielle Fisher 3rd Women 4

Sounds like a job for the Warren Commission.

From our vantage point, Scot did more pulling but Alan did some during the break, which at one point was 1:25 seconds ahead of the field. At the end, the two spoke to each other a few seconds before the sprint and away they went. Alan made it to the line first. Only they know what happened. What I know is that BOTH of these men deserve our praise for an outstanding performance.

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Well with the cold rain 54 degress I was very numb and could not seem to move....so not normal day for hotting up:(

The number of guys getting pissed at the Sanchez dude and the Global Locate riders for not pulling through was really pathetic.
Rule #1 of racing is to pay attention. (Pssst, they had guys in the break)
Then you have 2 or 3 guys spend most of the race trying to bridge while nobody else wants to pull through because they are too confused why Gary Steinberg is not chasing and also can't figure out how to get around him.
The coup de gras is then the 25 guys who sat at the back for an hour decide that third place is truly important and launch their 800 watter in the pouring rain. Bravo gentelman.
Global put on a clinic for how to safely and effectively block.
Field gets an F.
Nice job to Scott and Mr. Buday.

Your right even seen Jose trying to calm him down, guess he just needs to get in the break but likes talking.

who was the Adler guy yelling at everyone, you think he was doing the Elite Nationals or something??
Needs to get off this getto riding dude:(

They win all the time!

Meh. Can't you hash this out over a game of shuffleboard at the assisted living home?

When they have a guy leading a points series the tactics really aren't all that complicated.

It is Globals tactic to sit on breaks and use there numbers to keep the group together or get a numerical advantage into a break. The guy's on that team who will actually do work are BM and GS,(initials only) I know many who have been chased down only to have a rider from said team just sit on them and never even think of pulling through because they are always "riding for someone else". Not saying its wrong, alls far in war and bike racing but like it/admit it or not it is there team tactic. In all honesty it works well for them but makes for uneventfull racing for all others in the race. Some like to race while others like the tactics, tomato/tomAto?

I was not there and this is "IMO" but if I had to guess, Mr. Wilingham drove that break you are talking about.

Just to reiterate what was posted earlier, Scot W. was doing the lion's share of the work, but to say Alan Buday was not contributing is inaccurate.

I watched the race closely, I believe I saw Alan pull thru frequently, and when he did he certainly appeared to be applying himself. I've raced with both guys often enough that I'm pretty certain neither is a slacker and they both value the podium over a pack finish. They were never so far gone that staying away was a given, so I'd be shocked if there was any glass-cranking on Alan Buday's part and I'm doubtful Scot W. has ever even heard the term.

Congrats to both.

Any results for Tour of Cuse Cat3?

Tour de Parc
May 17, 2009
Wantagh, NY
 
Pro/1-2-3
52 starters

1. Shane Kline (Kelly Benefit Strategies)
2. Anthony Lowe (WS United)
3. Luis Aquino (Unatt)
4. Amaury Perez (GS Mengoni)
5. Anthony Taylor (Hot Foot Cycles)
6. Chad Butts (Champion System)
7. Igor Volshteyn (Champion System)
8. Euris Paulino (Champion System)
9. Tadeusz Marszalek (Sommerville Sports)
10. JP Partland (Kissena)
11. Rafael Meran (GS Mengoni)
12. Jason Urbanczyk (CC Eversham)

Category 3
36 Starters

1. Tadeusz Marszalek (Sommerville Sports)
2. Kyle Foley (Cuevas/ACT)
3. Lenny Katz (Kissena)
4. Eric Robertson (Kissena)
5. Kevin Yarde (Northampton Cycling Club)
6. Johan Burrowes (WS United)
7. James Joseph (WS United)
8. Filip Capala (Capala Brothers)
9. Juan Pimental (CRCA/Global Locate)
10. Sergio Atocha (GS Gotham)

Category 4
46 Starters

1. Karl Nelson (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
2. Gino Scotto (CRCA/Luzzo's)
3. Ed Zimmerman (WS United)
4. Lawrence Uhrlass (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
5. Chris Gurr (Unatt)
6. Kazuto Tanahashi (GS Parkridge)
7. Mathew Monastero (CRCA/Babylon Bike)
8. Rob Havemeyer (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
9. Steven Marmo (CRCA/Setanta)\
10. Danny Habig (Unatt)

Masters 40+
34 Starters

1. Alan Buday (CRCA/Global Locate)
2. Scot Willingham (CRCA/Sanchez/Houlihan-Lokey)
3. Gary Steinberg  (CRCA/Global Locate)
4. Juan Pimental (CRCA/Global Locate)
5. Anthony Maisto (Deno's Wonder Wheel)
6. Eutimo Quintero (CRCA/Foundation)
7. Richard Foley (Bethel Cycle Sport)
8. Samuel Martinez (WS United)

Women
15 Starters

1. Evelyn Stevens (CRCA/Radical Media)
2. Ann Marie Miller (CRCA/Sanchez/Houlihan-Lokey)
3. Ellen Moses (CRCA/Comedy Central)
4. Deb Killmon (CRCA/Team Signature Cycles)
5. Donna McHahon (GBSC)
6. Beth Renaud (CRCA/Comedy Central)

Category 5
20 Starters

1. Willie Nicholas (Unatt)
2. Charles Salzer (Franklin and Marshall Cycling Team)
3. Luke Harris (Team Bikeworks)
4. Reid Evans (Unatt)
5. Alexander Minski (Unatt)

Thanks to all the marshals, registration volunteers, pacers and officials!

Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club

It's not like Alan is known to be a hanger on.

Nope, I was a spectator. I probably saw more than the guys in the race. I am not saying Scot doesn't have himself to blame, He always works too much. I am sure that Global was working hard for Alan and that helped the break stick. I guess I am just old school and lets face it, even schmalz got a win that way.

how would you know were you in the break???

but scot always does the lions share of the work. it's how he races.

Maybe it wasn't the way it looked but Scot seemed to be doing the lions share of the work. I don't think I ever saw Alan take a pull. Then Alan came around him for the sprint. He won, just not very classy.

global lactate

Yourself, over, get

rain, rain and more rain oh and wind.

David Freifelder ( Westwood Velo ) 1st overall with average speed of 27mph ,

Phil Penman ( CRCA Teany cycling ) 3rd, Bill Moss 8th ( CRCA Luzzo's ) in 4/5 category

Kim Grossman ( CRCA ) 6th in 55 plus

Nice TT and well organized,

Alan Buday won. Gary Steinberg won the field sprint for third, and Juan Pimental took fourth. When you get your ass kicked that bad it makes sense to get the team name right....Sony.

Sanchez/Houlihan-Lokey

Scot Willingham of Sanchez/Houlihan Loke was 2nd to a Global Lactate rider in the 40+

any saturday and/or sunday morning TT results?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mlkimagescom/3539443072/in/photostream/

DBlume,

That's my bad, not Charlie. Something funky happened with my spreadsheet after I left Tuesday night and I didn't realize it until after I send the results to Bikereg. I've send them a new version, with the sprint results; hopefully they will post soon. The results on USAC have already been corrected.

Alan Atwood

Charlie,

Thanks for posting the full results. You have me down as finishing the race 2x (in 9th and 17th). As much as I'd like the better result, I believe that Alan Buday finished 9th and that 17th is truly mine.

See you next week.

David Blume

http://www.bikereg.com/Results/2009/05/12-Cadence-Kissena-Tuesday-Night-...

Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club

Didn't take Doug to long to heal up. Glad to see him back.

Adler rode a smart race.

I fessed up long ago in the alpine page. Time to buy him a baoguette bahn mi.

CJIA beat Andy Shen by 1 second. Post it.

http://www.crca.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/alpineresults

Tymor is a nice mix of smooth fast bermy stuff through the woods, steep climbs, and rocky single track. The rocky single track is not too technical by local standards. Descents are as fast as you dare.

Lots of climbing. Not very techincal compared to some of the other courses...with the rain it will be a bruiser of a course.

Anyone know what the Tymor course is like? Rocky or Smooth?

Marshall "Major" Taylor was a true American hero. Great to see renewed interest in him. He will be a household name again, someday.

Don't try to gyp.
Don't be a pie biter.
Don't keep late hours.
Don't use intoxicants.
Don't be a big bluffer.
Don't eat cheap candies.
Don't get a swelled head.
Don't use tobacco in any form.
Don't fail to live a clean life.
Don't forget to play the game fair.
Don't take in unfair advantage of an opponent.
Don't forget the practice of good sportsmanship.

"pie biter" was the insult of the day back then

Major Taylor lived in Worcester, MA when he was racing. WorcesterVelocity.com had yet to be built into VelocityNation.com

Major Taylor was never called a sandbagger. It was much worse.
Blacks were banned from League of American Wheelmen and they tried to keep Taylor from racing.
Many would not race against him.

12:51: just reporting what i see, bro, dont like it anymore than you do

12:42: thanks. best way i've come up with to describe all the endless nonsensical 5hit-talking around here (which i luv)

I thought my enthusiasm had just decreased (0 races this year compared to about 15 this time last). But, it seems like overall attendance is down as is entusiasm. Maybe now that Lance is back, it will re-kindle my flame - not.

I lost my job, my wife left me, my dog died, my Bimmer has been taken by the repo man, I had to pawn my Rolex -- all I have left is riding my bike in circles looking at other guys butts and bitchin' on NYVC. Don't you fuckers go fuckin' that up too.

Yabberclamming: that's a new one. Nice!

pick-up and interest in racing recently (read: last several years) can be thought of as a luxury good; consumption of it increases as incomes do. said another way, you can spend plenty of time yabberclamming on nyv when times are good

now that times are not so good, people collective re-adjust priorities, and recreational (luxury) activities are the first to get dropped

That's not true. Why, here's an archived posting from NYVC in 1902.

By: Wheelsucker (not verified)
Fri, 05/15/1902 12:21

My good sirs: Major Taylor is a sandbagger. UPGRADE

That's an easy one. you wanna see hate, just mention the name of any local cyclist who got caught doping.

Trash talk is harmless, its just who's racing well, who's sandbagging, did adler race smart last weekend, CJIA going (or not going) uphill etc.

Just killing the buzz

Schmalz - yours is better...again

But, we just laughed since his sprint was merely a waltz

and any thread limerick he halts.

And dropped hand grenades

He rained on parades

what's the difference between "hate" and "anonymous trash talking"

most of the hate here is tongue in cheek, i think

Who had an ever growing number of faults

the cooler

There once was a buzzkiller named Schmalz

I didn't make everything shitty, my "tone" did.

I think you just answered your own question. Schmalz made everything shitty.

maybe it's just you?

Has anyone sensed a collective flagging of enthusiasm for racing this season? Does anyone else miss the sense of anticipation, the clipped, nervous chatter before races and the sad smiles of mixed regret and relief afterwards?

In seasons past, these Friday/Monday free-for-alls were much more lively and people were much more interested and animated about what was about to happen/had happened. It seems this season, apathy has set in, or perhaps the repetitiveness of the conversation has turned away all but the hopelessly bored.

I remember NYVC pre-schmalz, pre-hate, with the faux-grafitti banner and the long list of links, when Mike Jones was SoPro, when we still TT'ed in the park, when each weekend of racing was charged with energy and anticipation, even if it was only defiant and anonymous trash-talking.

Where has that all gone?

Let's make it the CJIH handicap race. Jammet, I'll spot you 30 seconds, and I climb like crap. A ham based wager is on the line.

cynthia, you gotta rephrase that.

HI,

Anyone know what exit off 9w coming from GW?

Thanks
Cynthia

another wheelsucker, living up to the quality of leadership of this site, soapbox blowhard knownothings

Mrs. Whiggins

CJ doign the hillclimb.... now that guy has a sense of humor!

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