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As the Toto Turns 148

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:20am by Andy Shen

Leadville Musings

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...consistency rules..
By: Anthony Drainhole
Sat, 08/22/2009 - 7:51am

...as once again i'm assigned 'anthony drainhole'...at least you nyvelocity fuck's could refer to me as "tony da hole", sheesh...

...& speaking of which & i'm talkin' holes, i think the manhattan airport project could be a go if they put it underground, in a big hole, if you will...leave central park as is on the surface but all the airport workings could be subterranean w/ a big slot at each end...one to fly into for landing & one to fly out of after takeoff...

...good idea, huh ???...

...so thanks & hey, they don't call me 'tony da hole' fer nuttin'...

...love, bgw...

LAF / NYCV
By: Thor Hammer Gel
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 1:29pm

Lance sets hour record in hypobaric velodrome in NYC, and just removes the de-pressurizing system. Merchandizing of vials of his "medical miracle" sweat from event could fund whole thing. Pay-for-view, tweet access, etc.

I like that idea of pouring
By: Lorenzo Biopace
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 1:03pm

I like that idea of pouring cement into the East River.

NYVP v NYAF
By: Robert "Stalin" Moses
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:51pm

Airport farther along than velodrome.
My chance to finish those highways.

airport
By: Sander Chamois
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:34pm

...and do they have a a sweet animated computer rendering of what they will do with manhattan after everyone moves out?

yeah but we took their aiport
By: F
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:26pm

yeah but we took their aiport and turned it into our playground at FBF.

NY Airport Project
By: Guillaume Ceramic
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:02pm

Yeah, that's bullshit. No one is stupid enough to attempt to replace our only playground with another airport.

NYVP+NYAF
By: Paranoid
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:56am

So if this airport closes down Central Park, we'll all have to pay to ride in their velodrome? Genius. That out Lance's Lance, who was going to build a track to set the hour record and then tear it down.

NY Airport Project
By: Boris Badenov
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:51am

http://manhattanairport.org/

Same guys as velodrome.

sandbagger
By: Alessio Wave Ring
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 5:01am

big deal. it's cool that he throws down in the dirt too. the MTB community was probably stoked to have him at the race. everybody knows who dave wiens is now.

the course is tough, but it
By: Alessio Wave Ring
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 2:31am

the course is tough, but it is fast with a lot of flats. not like a typical east coast technical rock and root fest. pulls would have helped

all this LA crap
By: deleted
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 2:29am

I don't care if people don't like him, but having a "team" didn't win it for him. Lead outs don't happen in mt biking not because of honor, but because they don't work. And wasn't he away for the last 60 miles?

NY velodrome project
By: Snidely Whiplash
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 1:53am

Carpetbaggery replacing sandbaggery as a concern, finally.

Coach Chris!
By: Solo Breakaway
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:20pm

"cut and paste coaching"

It's the little things that make the difference. As usual: LOOOOOVE IT!

It's Frank Gehry - G E H R Y
By: Leon Torque
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:02pm

'Pinch me'? Somebody should flatten him; go in harder next time, Toto. Is there any activity of human endeavor that's not at risk of being caught in this web of blatant self-promotion?

i'm seriously concerned for your mental acuity
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:25pm

"all NYC straphangers are interested in learning about NJ Transit issues." you might officially be a dolt. noone said anything even close to resembling something analogous to that

Thanks Professor, I like your
By: Jack Mayhoffer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:05pm

Thanks Professor, I like your logic.

idiot
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:04pm

"it's more like building a house and writing about the neighborhood. God, we wouldn't want a sense of community or anything, would we?"

How in the world is that saying that everyone should be interested in it? you're stupid.

you guys really suck at "logic"
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:03pm

not necessarily, but if someone transit-minded decided they wanted their scope to be national, so be it, it's not my site, they can decide how large a community they want. I didn't say you had to want all of their content, but there is nothing weird about them including it.

I've taught philosophy and whomever is making these stupid arguments, stop butchering the word "logic"

Oh, I see. By your logic and
By: Adolph Maforeskin
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:46pm

Oh, I see. By your logic and according to the original analogy, all NYC straphangers are interested in learning about NJ Transit issues.

there is a community of
By: Chad Feldheimer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:31pm

there is a community of felons. it's called jail.

numbers do not a community make
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:26pm

there are millions of felons too...

oh come on. even chad
By: Chad Feldheimer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:19pm

oh come on. even chad feldheimer knows that the majority of what you just mentioned are JOKES found on NYVELOCITY on the INTERNET.

JOKES! the name-calling, flaming, put-downs, the sandbagging, wheelsucking, squidgilanting, excitability, the upgrades, the DQ's...

the community is still strong and we've got numbers to prove that.

What sense of community? The
By: WheelieRider
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:09pm

What sense of community? The roadies (over here on NYVC) have strong disrespect for the fixters, messengers, recumbant riders, advocates, and even eat their own. There is no community, only small tribes who would rather go to war with each other than come together and support the greater good.Your idea that we are a community is foolish.

terrible analogy
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:05pm

it's more like building a house and writing about the neighborhood. God, we wouldn't want a sense of community or anything, would we?

you're the same kind of troll that would bitch if they didn't mention anything about other cycling related events or concerns.

i'll grant you that they should make it more obvious how we could help.

Uh...
By: TrollCatcher
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:00pm

This is obviously a troll... but flame on.

No, I'm bitching about: (1)
By: Major Hater
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:58pm

No, I'm bitching about:

(1) Their vague website
(2) Their lack of a way to get involved via their website
(3) The ambiguity of their operational structure, if any
(4) The posts about general interest advocacy success in NYC cycling, as though they are slowly becoming the source for all things grassroots cycling in NYC. That, to me, is the weirdest thing about the project. It's kid of like announcing that you are building a house and posting information about the house being built next door on your blog.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who read this site who would LOVE, to help out in any way possible, but there doesn't seem to be a conduit for that. At this point in their planning, these guys might want to build a community beyond posting on their comment section by holding events, perhaps fundraisers, town hall-style meetings with the general cycling public. I'm just thinking off of the top of my head, but there just seems to be no way to learn anymore about the project. This isn't usually how community-built, independently-run operations build their base... I'm just saying...

not only that
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:55pm

but your bitching about them being *gasp* interested in the more general cycling scene??! the nerve of those bastards!!

congrats on being asshat of the day

Let me get this straight
By: schmalz
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:44pm

You're bitching about someone trying to build an indoor velodrome?

Speaking of ads
By: Major Hater
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:36pm

Why does the New York Velodrome site post news about general NYC cycling issues (Univest, bike lanes, etc) that have nothing to do with the velodrome project? Are they trying to be down with the scene by appearing local? Who are these guys anyway? Maybe they should post more info about how we can get involved by donating money or time to make this thing a reality, instead of creating this aura like the project has some wealthy benefactor and is just waiting for the city to finally grant them an expensive permit. I like the idea, but the site is a bit too polished for a project that ain't gonna happen.

bad idea
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:23pm

never a good idea to post your phone number

I gather CTS pulled their ads
By: Bono Vox
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:20pm

Zipp next?

MIKE GREEN
By: MQ
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:16pm

anybody have mike green's number?
or can someone tell him to call me
917 334 7205
MQ

I gotta say I think LA's the
By: Quentin Internal Routing
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:08pm

I gotta say I think LA's the biggest douche on the scene for winning Leadville. What a prick.

yeesh
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:47pm

driver that hit dooda not being charged

Tinker doesn't wear patchouli
By: Nick Verstain
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:42pm

It is Herbal Dreadessence creme rinse.

Thanks Alexis
By: schmalz
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:10pm

Thanks Alexis

Names
By: Alexis Saddlesore
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:03pm

Just posted this to see what my name is on the Toto board...

+1
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:41pm

he's got a point, if that is true they should reevaluate their calendar

1205
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:40pm

and why weren't they present? you don't think a chance to beat Lance is worth it for them? saying that the good guys were doing other races is the lamest

Seriously
By: ~~~~ !!!LIVESTRONG!!! ~~~~
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:33pm

I love Lance. I pooped my pants when I read that Toto, so unfair. Why can't he be the media darling his handlers ensure that he is? Why can't you treat him with the respect he so desires, even though he angrily doles out petty admonishment to teammates and press, regarding their interpretation of his actions and words? Why do you want to make love to the cancer, in your mother's bed, with the TV on?

Jesus effing christ... Go to
By: Tom Skidmark
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:22pm

Jesus effing christ... Go to the livestrong site and jerk off to the Levi/Lance video love-ins if your panties are in such a twist about Armstrong's "treatment" on Toto. The guy does it to himself -- he's a media whore.

not to be "this guy," but...
By: Arthur Tarmac
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:16pm

...a lot of people (or one very frequent commenter) spell "lose" incorrectly around here.

that is all.

Leadville
By: Andy Bernard
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:12pm

is so far from a competitive race it's a joke. outside the top 10 guys (or so), it's a race for survival. sorta like....a triathlon. everyone's a winner!

oh, and btw, it's super-uncool to bring a "team" to such an event....it's like bringing domestiques to a charity ride.

11:35
By: Luca Rubber Hood
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:05pm

I completely admire his accomplishments on the bike and off, but this public vendetta against Dave Wiens was just plain weird. The dude just can't stand to loose. He thought he'd soft pedal in last year and kick ass, and he got his kicked- bad. Well, congrats to Lance for winning a tough race this year while much of the younger, pro MTB talent weren't even present.

lance bashers
By: wheelsucker
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:05pm

I understand it,but how the hell can yall call him a has been. 3rd in this years tour counts for nothing? make all the rationalizations you want, 3rd in the tour is not a has been result

Andy's Karma is hurting
By: Sacha Swage
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:02pm

Andy's Karma is hurting too...he is a in the closet tri guy. Can you imagine his internal pain.

andy too
By: Matteo Bottle
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:54pm

andy takes plenty of shrapnel: isn't loving to time trial karmatcic enough?

You get a cool name like Gregorio Saddlebag
By: Niccolo Compliant
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:51pm

Niccolo Compliant: Why am I Niccolo Compliant?, Why can't we pick our own names?
Andy: I tried that once, it don't work. You get four guys fighting over who's gonna be Axel Lungbuster. Since nobody knows anybody else, nobody wants to back down. So forget it, I pick. Be thankful you're not Pantani Microdose.
Niccolo Compliant: Tell you what, let me be Lapo Tank. That sounds good to me, I'm Lapo Tank.
Andy: You're not Lapo Tank, somebody from another website is Lapo Tank. You're Niccolo Compliant.
Vespaciano Steerer: Who cares what your name is? Who cares if you're Niccolo Compliant, Lapo Tank, Chad Feldheimer?
Niccolo Compliant: Oh that's really easy for you to say, you're Vespaciano Steerer. You got a cool-sounding name. So tell me, Vespaciano Steerer, if you think "Niccolo Compliant" is no big deal, you wanna trade?
Andy: Nobody's trading with anybody! Look, this ain't a damn city counsel meeting! Listen up Niccolo Compliant. We got two ways here, my way or the highway. And you can go down either of 'em. So what's it gonna be, Niccolo Compliant?

Public figure
By: Lance
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:40pm

Lance is fair game as a public figure who has done far worse to people and their careers than any little insults here will ever do to him.

I 100% agree that others suchs as local riders are hated upon far too much here though.

what does toto lance bashing
By: Chad Feldheimer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:35pm

what does toto lance bashing have to do with you racing locally? and why should we care that you are so sensitive. how about you stop using the internet.

hey stupid
By: anonymous
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:30pm

I am being constructive. I am a cyclist and I race locally. I like to follow the local scene. I think the shittiness of this site could be curtailed making it much more enjoyable, and I've said so. That is why I dont go away.

if you don't like the site,
By: Wheelsucker (is not allowed?)
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:24pm

if you don't like the site, why don't you go away?

Gregorio Saddlebag. seriously, these do sound like porn names

Karma
By: Mathias Tank
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:02pm

Andy deserves it too but his recent appearance in photos shows me that being asian and having a goatee makes him sort of ok. You on the other hand...
Glad I got your attention. But my point is, the negativity here is over the top, no?

schmalz is small
By: Nicola Fastellara
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 3:00pm

schmalz is small

to Vespaciano
By: Nicola Fastellara
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:59pm

Lance is a semi retired has been and sand bagger.

If it's karma, why doesn't
By: schmalz
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:55pm

If it's karma, why doesn't Andy take any shrapnel? That's SO unfair!

smalls?
By: Chad Feldheimer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:53pm

smalls?

Smalls, like I told you two
By: Gaetan Locknut
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:45pm

Smalls, like I told you two weeks hence, your KARMA is a result of the garbage you perpetuate on this site. You know I am right. You know I am inside your little head...let me rephrase that. I have gotten to you. This site is growing but you are afraid of the direction! REPENT NOW!!!!!

oh wait the livestrong
By: Nicola Fastellara
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:26pm

oh wait the livestrong stationary is real!?!!

that's just hilarious!

Proud of Beating Old Men
By: Vespaciano Steerer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 2:17pm

Dave Wiens is 44. Tinker Juarez is 48. Travis Brown is 40. All well respected mountain bike racers in their earlier years. Endurance mountain bike racing is the semi-retired mountain bike racer's sport of choice. So where does Lance fit in?

The ex on my 300K Shack
By: Luca Rubber Hood
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:43pm

The ex on my 300K Shack mp3

That lefty beeitch never did get those lyrics right...

Sings out loud, to no one within 10 min

“All I wanna do is have some fun”
“I got a feeling I'm THE only one”
“All I wanna do is have some fun”
“I got a feeling I'm THE only one”
“All I wanna do is have some fun”

BAAS=Bay Area Adoption Services
By: Lapo Tank
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:27pm

Adopting young blonds from around BA - what else?

Juan Pelota
By: Lapo Tank
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:25pm
"Where Juan Pelota goes,
By: Tom Skidmark
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 12:19pm

"Where Juan Pelota goes, friction follows."

Tru dat.

What's BAAS
By: Goro Ziptie
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 12:19pm

http://lemondfitness.com/products_revmaster.php?id=150

Armstrong's bike is an awful lot like LeMond's bike.....

GENIUS.
By: Chad Feldheimer
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:53am

GENIUS.

what the hell is that?
By: Niccolo Compliant
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:51am

Niccolo Compliant? My name is Niccolo Compliant? What kind of drag queen stage name is that?

hey Tweetolero, there's an I in
By: macy gray
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:37am

wince:

"I'm gonna rock this tonight"...

even though he tweets like a 16 year old girl embroiled in cheerleading squad drama, he does know he's closer to 40... right?

West Coast checking in.
By: The Upholstered Apocalypse
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 5:10am

Uncanny. It's as if you're inside my head inside Lance's head.

donde esta el podio?
By: Corentin Polished
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 4:27am

donde esta el podio?

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