Hangover 4/12/2010

Have u ever heard of Jimenez Velo Club from NJ? Club's leader is a small dwarf known as Herb Jimenez. Riders are weak and lame in blue uniforms like Smurfs.

JOIN this group & arrange with others to go for training rides:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&gid=64538287876#!/group.php?v=wall&gid=64538287876

as far as the racers' willingness goes, that shouldn't be the problem - make buying the chip part of the licensing process, and tell racers they'll never see their name on a results sheet again unless they use it. follow through on that, and then missing a few precious upgrade points or usa cycling ranking points (confusing and practically meaningless, but still, we look), and before you know it, you have 99.9% compliance.

the flip-side is obviously that each race has to have the timing equipment, and therein lies more of a difficulty, i guess. but with the current state of things, and so much agita after every single race about who was in 23rd place and "why doesn't my 35 bucks buy me a placing," etc., it would surprise me if promoters wouldn't buy in. promoters could have a stash of spare chips and charge 10 bucks for every guy who forgets his, and now they are probably profiting.

i'm assuming the stuff actually works - if it's usually faulty and requires just as much work as the current method, then ok, that's no good.

separate issue, but it would cut down on the oh-so-honorable practice of hiding in the bushes for a couple laps when the crit gets tough...

made smile yo

Organizations in Florida and Minnesota have tried this. It requires a strong central racing organization (which NY lacks) and a large group of racers who will repeated use the chips, not just twice a year. Also, the chips rarely work as well as they did at Battenkill and a photo backup is almost always necessary.

i'm not adding extra weight to my bike for some results

why not: every rider gets (buys) a chip or two with their race license. zip-tie the thing onto your fork at the beginning of the year, don't even think about it again. how amazingly expensive can it be. there would be costs and logistical issues with getting the right equipment to all of the races, but on the other hand, fewer officials would be needed to figure out the finish order, and never again would 2/3 of the field be standing around after the race bitching about how they haven't gotten their place.

i am guessing that there's a reason this hasn't happened yet, but especially after seeing that it worked very well at battenkill, i don't get it...

wow that takes chopping to a whole new level.

for what, $116.32 in prize winnings?

sad.

and that name is Jake Keouge of United Health Cycling.

40 sec. into the clip will reveal a move I hope never happens to me or anyone. Unfortunately Rahsaan Bahati took this one on the chin and was critized for reacting on velonews comments board afterwards!

http://www.insidecyclingtv.com/videos/129/dana-point-grand-prix

No Battenkill photo links. Huh.

...........but, I can't take full credit on this one. There was chip timing there courtesy of Yellow Jacket Racing out of western NY. Without them, I'd either be dead or still compiling results for 1600+ riders (which would probably kill me anyway). Believe me, it wasn't easy regardless; but things were light years ahead of the MCF of last year.

Looking forward to the pro race on Sunday. Anyone traveling up to watch?

Alan

It was the meat packing district..around 2:00AM
that wheel just went bad. took wrong turn somewhere in life

NYCSpringSeries We got approval for the time trial course. The course is a little less than 5 miles. The start and finish is in edgewater with the (cont

NYCSpringSeries …cont) turn around being in englewood. Registration is at Ross dock.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/race-results/2009/hangover-8172009

Comment at 9:58pm
"Some NYC/CRCA affiliated riders had superb results at the darkhorse 40. Sean Smith (Rockstar racing/Signature cycles) and Al Siebert (Nycmtb/Peak bikes) were 1st and 2nd overall cat1s, finishing 3rd and 4th overall in a field of almost 400 including some very fast pro riders. Nate Krax (Sids/Cannondale) also podiumed as 3rd place cat1 singlespeed."

Hey! Don't cancel the TT. What does everyone have against the TT?

I have an idea.....

Cancel TT....and spend extra free time getting results up in time for the final race so everyone knows what the hell is going on as far as points.

Van Dunk can't really be held responsible for the park service not clearing the road. Are you guys blaming CRC for the Tiorati bridge being out?

Van Dunk is working on the B plan. Which, honestly, isn't a very good one. The replacement TT would go one way from about the river road entrance in fort lee to the top of the hill in Englewood where the road is closed.

He has a permit for a TT in the park, and the park service is open to a course change. That section of road obviously sees far more traffic, and it's pretty short. It's the spring series prologue at the tail end of the race.

He probably should have put another plan in place weeks ago rather than waiting for the week before the race. I don't know what the permitting process is in the parks, but at such a late date could he even get a central/PP permit for the weekend? Sounds unlikely.

Complaining about the results not being posted seems like a pretty legitimate gripe. It is a series. Hard for people to care about the series when they can't even figure out who is placed where.

Well, I doubt they changed the fork, but were able to switch him back to his race bike.

“We saw a bad-luck incident with a couple of brake binder assemblies that loosened and allowed (the brake) pads to ride on the rim,” said Alex Wassmann, SRAM’s road sports marketing manager

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/04/road/flanders-tech-cancellaras-sp...

In Flanders it was the fork on the new Specialized Roubaix prototype frame that is believed to have failed - not the brakes...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race...

is it clear yet?

van dunk hasn't even plowed river road yet. what the f-ck.

First, a fixing bolt fails causing Cancellara to have to make a quick bike change during Flanders, then he is shown having to open up his rear brake during his solo in PR.

Do not Piss
Do not Diss
if you like to race
in the same place
as last 40 year
your piss must not clear
the rambles bathroom
unless the po po come too soon...

Amerigo Supple, clearly you are a man who appreciates the finer things, handmade tubbies included. Chapeau!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiaLOzP1lCA

If the ss in cp has really been pissed away, this time next year how are you avd haters going to feel about the posting of results for irrelevant park races in which you didn't place?

Does he have a course yet? Gotta love AVD!

I'm pretty sure I saw your Zipp front wheel hooking up with a Campy Shamal rear wheel from Long Island with a bedazzled cog-piece.

Dude, I've totally moved on from that wheel. I don't even think about that wheel ever. Um, where did you say my wheel was hanging out? You know, I'm just curious...

The FMBs are handmade and $265 for a set. If you had any clue about the quality of a handmade Dugast or FMB you would not post such stupidity. Second, they are tubs not tubies and if you have to ask the question then you just dont get the whole FMB Dugast thing.

Finally, you will see someone in the park with them.

Nobody is dissing van dunk as a person!

Just post the goddamn results is it that hard?

He is 4 weeks behind. He is screwing up the easiest part of running the series!

Think I saw your wheel last week at the meat packing district. but I didnt want to say anything couse
it was with all his friends. just hanging out trying to pick up women and smoking. but I did hear this as I walked by. it said to one of his friends
NAH MY RACING DAYS ARE OVER

Nope, gone forever.

Hey Dan,
Did you ever find your lost Zipp?

I afraid that is accurate

"zipplost" right?

Daan Housing is not me, my NYVC pen name is Danimal McStudly

Daan Housing = Schmalz

same guy who wrote: "Are all you NYC losers going to start sucking Pavel's cock now? you bitches can't race." in the hangover thread

so who are you then?

No.

I think they were making out with Embro Journal in the back of the field.

didn't they use chip timing this year?

Atwood should have a weekly forum on NYVelocity...like "Ask Alan", or something. He could settle questions like the folding bike's status in a race, upgrade issues, etc...

Fantastic timing job by Alan. A zillion fields and riders and he still turned it around the next day. Dieter should have had him last year.

Fabien also needs to upgrade.

who's gonna be first to rock a $255 tubbie in a central park circlefest?

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/road-bikes/product-components/2010-fmb...

my own pov after a bunch of years racing all over the east coast and beyond: anthony is a good guy who runs a lot of local races that many of us choose to participate in, and some of us even appreciate. his races offer good (local) competition, there are a lot of them, and they mostly happen early in the season when many of us are trying to find our racing legs.
i don't understand why so many people like to diss him here. i will be sad if he can't run races in the park any more, or if he quits altogether.

Seems Mr Smith is following the rules, looks like everybody has to follow the upgrade rules.

Sean Smith is my babies daddy. He hasn't paid child support in years!

24mph with the wind at your back isn't much effort.

I've done 8 races and called to upgrade yet again, so shall see.

Awesome! Suck it to the haters! 50% ha ha!

true. zero road points allowed even if you were to win the USA cycling MT Bike national championship as a cat 1

Sean Smith was rumored to have pulled off to the side of the road, mid-race, to wrestle a wild boar with his bare hands. Shortly thereafter, a local farmer flagged him down to help rebuild the Holley carburetor on his '76 Ford pickup truck. How he managed to have a spare pump diaphragm in his jersey pocket at the time was nothing short of amazing. Yet, he still managed to pull off the win. He's ready for Cat 4, no doubt.

Either a troll or you're even more of a poser than the result suggests...50% effort

You only need 10 mass start races sanctioned by USCF to upgrade to Cat 4.

a lot of misinformation out there about me. amusing to read though, thanks.

First, i didn't sprint off the front at battenkill. i was cold and wanted to warm up and ramped it up to about 50% effort. no one followed so i raced solo.

No, I haven't raced for 5 years pro SS. I've never even raced one event pro SS. I've done a handful of endurance races over the years along with some ultra-endurance road/mtb events.

Believe me when I say, I'm about the last person that wants to be in cat 5. i've tried two times to upgrade and have been denied each time. if anyone knows someone who can put me in cat 2 where I might see some competition feel free to go ahead.

No, sex in the rambles gets you VD'd!

Avd's TT is going to be 4 laps of the Englewood boat basin parking lot.

does having sex in the rambles get also you DQ'd?

Sean Smith was wearing a ChampSys jersey in that field. He sprinted away from the pack at the start and was not seen again the whole race. He literally solo'd all 62 miles, and beat the front selection by ~10 minutes.

I have to assume we have a situation akin to Pavel Gonda or Greg Waggoner with this guy - he has to work his way up like everyone else.

The time trial is on for next Sunday. The course will be finalized by Wednesday.

Pissing gets you kicked out? Wow Central Park has really gone to the sissies. I recall when you could dismember a body in there, mid-afternoon, and no one cared.

Juniper Swamp climb 2x in the first 20 mi for the 2's and P,1. Different from last year and not on ye ol' dvd.

Hell of a race! Cramps galore.

Well done.

BS! Sean Smith started 5 years ago. Pathetic.

Sean Smith has to start as a Cat 5 just like everyone else. Like others he will quickly upgrade. Don't be a critic now...you'll want him on your team when he's a Cat 3 or 2.

How about if you turn a rider in, take a pic with a cell phone, you a get a free entry and the rider gets a big DQ with no refund as the rules state.

I might do that just for kicks.

Sean Smith races open pro SS- not sure how he can feel good about such a hollow victory.

Maybe he does not have enough points to bump up...

I don't know if he was being dramatic, but he said "this is my last race in CP. Thanks guys."

he didn't say no more races...he said it was his last warning and if anyone else got caught peeing that there wouldn't be any more.

AvD is flawed. But what's the solution? Don't do the races and then he'll stop promoting them. Of course, the lack of interest at that point would likely deter someone else from taking over. At least there are races. Don't take them so seriously and it's just a local race to do when there is something better out there.

1J7. Maximum Field. Entries shall be accepted in order of receipt by the organizer up to the field limit and subsequent entries shall be returned. The maximum field limit in any youth race or a road event exclusively for category 5 men or Category 4 women shall be 50 riders. The maximum field for a road event that includes category 5 men with other categories shall be 75.

Yes. Did he mean this year, or ever?

Did anyone else hear AVD at the beginning of the race Sunday a.m.?--that someone was caught urinating in public, that it was the last straw with the parks department, and as a result, no more races for AVD in CP?

He's been racing for 5 years and entered the Cat5? He must feel great knowing that he beat a bunch of noobs. Total sandbagger.

i was dropped 3 minutes into the race when my DI2 couldn't lift the chain into my 29 tooth cog, but in the ensuing chase, i recorded my best ever 6.5 minute power output. that to me was enough to justify the 4000 calorie pasta dinners and pancake breakfasts i had on each of the 3 days leading into the race.

time to start focusing on national age group time trial championships for the hotly contested 44 years, 27 days - 44 years, 185 days group. carbo loading for the trip to the wind tunnel next month - will be great to get away from these $%^ing spoiled kids, JK, LOL!!! after that, gotta shave weight for green mountain. (replace my shattered zipp 202's, etc.)

2 feeds more of the longer races, not much of an issue for the 62 mile races.

awesome race, course, and weather. ups to dieter for making it better every year. only complaint might be the need for two feed zones for a tough, but short race.

great job by alan and company to get the results turned around as quickly as they did.

Battenkill- an excuse for upstate cops to issue more speeding tickets.