Hopeful Friday 5/1/2009

Watch out! Races everywhere!

There’s so many races in so many places this weekend, that if you don’t watch yourself, you could end up with a number pinned to you, competing against other racers.

Saturday has the Cadence Cup Prospect Park Series in um, Prospect Park. There’s also the High Point Hill Climb in Montague, NJ, and Saturday also has the quest for pottery at the Jiminy Peak Road Race in Hancock, MA, a town named by 18th century fifth graders.

Sunday has many options also. The Criterium New York at FBF looks to have a new layout for the old standard course; the Tour of Colt’s Neck is available for those with the means to travel; and finally, if you like dirt, it’s a short trip to the Wawayanda Spring Cleaning in Hewitt, NJ, the opening event in the H2H series.

 

125 Comments

Wheelsucker

I’m really happy there’s a new (Criterium NY) race but I’m bored with FBF. It doesn’t matter how you arrange the course, it’s still a bumpy airfield. We already have the Tuesday series coming up on the fifth, do we need more races there?
Please don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to have a race I’d just like to see some new locations. I’m sure there are more available. Before I get flamed with “why don’t you start your own,” I’ll try it!

Wheelsucker

It’s already May..and I have some teammates who raced 1 or 2 races…I think I am going to kick them off the team. Any takers?

Wheelsucker

I’ll take anyone who is fresh for may/june races. Need cat2/3s. free kit and relaxed atmosphere.

Wheelsucker

you are going to kick them off the team but are trying to arrange for them to get on a new team? fuck em let them go shop around.

Wheelsucker

Teammates who take kit, suck up budget and don’t race. Discuss.

I have a teammate who I’ve seen at 1 park race so far this season. Got an e-mail from him this morning: He MIGHT come to Prospect IF it doesn’t rain. (Of course if he does grace us with his presence, he’ll ride around struggling at the back until he gets dropped…er… I mean, until he has a flat…)

Wheelsucker

Nothing classier than talking shit about your team mates anonymously online.

This shouldn’t be news, this should be common sense. If your team has issues, you should address them in the open.

Wheelsucker

10:06, i think that was a joke, but if that was a serious post, i want to tell you that is is f-ckin AWESOME you just called out your own teammate anonymously on NYVeloCity. back to basics baby … niiiice

Wheelsucker

kind of related to the email list argument, no? you should call them out here, by name. should be fun.

there are many reasons why someone is not racing often, but if they feel their entire season will be like that, they should not partake in new kit.

Wheelsucker

I think teams need to set some guidelines when recruiting/signing on new members. Conversely, guys need to be honest with teams when they sign on and take free swag (if any). Some guys have the time and energy to race from March -Nov. Some guys race March – May, others focus on August (Road) – Dec (cross). ITs all a matter of time and energy and goals.

For 3 years I have been on a team of great guys by they simply dont race beyond April (with a few exceptions). I train alone, travel alone and race alone. This has led me to focus on Mtn XC and CX mainly since the team dynamic has less of an impact on the race. Next year I am saving the $400 in “team expenses/kit costs” and racing unattached. No pressure to race where or when.

As for Jiminy Prediction…, looks like another year of rain.

Cat 4s – Dont know any of them – maybe CJammet (darkhorse) or James Stevens if he is still racing 4s.

Cat 3s – Berstein, Slokar and Atocha (this guy has to be the most improved racer in NYC)

Cat1-2s – Margarite or J-Powers

35+ – Roger or Ruiz

Wheelsucker

I think every team has deadbeats. It annoys the heck out of me too, and when I read that I was hoping my own deadbeats would read it and think it was about them. I agree with the rider who posted that, and he didn’t shame anyone in public, so no harm, no foul. But I would like to point out that if he only has ONE teammate who’s been absent this season, he might be on the best team in the city. Most teams have several “club riders” (to use the nicest term I can think of), not just one and the racing burden falls on the same 4 or 5 guys week-in and week-out.

Wheelsucker

Those predictions are pretty good. Prensky won it in the 4s last year. Atocha did well, I think? Slokar and Cuttler are looking good.

claryluzzo

Has anyone ever tried to host a crit in either stadium parking lot?

In Chicago, they just announced a six week crit series held in the Soldier Field parking lot.

http://soldierfieldcycling.com/sfc/

Imagine the possibilities: new pavement, no joggers, endless course shape possibilities.

Races could be held on non-game days in the mornings to avoid any potential conflict.

So who out there know Mets or Yankees management?

Wheelsucker

a good way to weed deadbeats is to have an A team and a B team. Both teams where the same or similar kit. Both participate in team training rides. A team gets priority sponsorships has more obligations to train/be competitive/etc. Anybody can join B team. Tryouts/interviews are held for A team spots. If A team guys are deadbeats, they get demoted and somebody else fills their spot.

Wheelsucker

Better yet, a good way to weed out deadbeats is to go pro and STFU. We’re all club riders, get over yourselves.

Will Vallar

Jesse, why do you always post anonymously? If you have something to say, say it. No big deal. I understand your frustration, but the whole deal with being on Danny’s Cycles is that you don’t have any pressure to race or get results. We are realistic about our goals and race our bikes for fun. If we win some races that is great, but it is more about having a good time with your friends. You say that, “Next year I am saving the $400 in ‘team expenses/kit costs’ and racing unattached. No pressure to race where or when.” I would love for you to name one time when anyone on the team has pressured you in any way, shape, or form. Anyway, you quit the team once before and the guys let you back on the team, even though I told them you would just quit again and obviously I was right. Don’t get me wrong, I think you are a really nice guy and I enjoy riding with you, but I don’t like hearing you complain about the team when our intentions were clear from the beginning.

Wheelsucker

sometimes he does sign JG. i’m wondering why he is always pegging bernstein and atocha for the win.

Jordan Copeland

If you only race faraway hilly road races, and you’re on a track-focused team like Danny’s Cycles, you won’t get to race with your teammates that much. That’s not the team’s fault, it’s just a bad match. We had 3 to 6 riders at Kissena every week last season and had a lot of fun and got good results, so to say guys didn’t race isn’t accurate. But anyway, I’d hope that at the club/masters level no one should be frustrated on a team that’s a bad fit. If you’re not enjoying where you’re at, you should make a change to a situation that works better for you. You’re not going to change anyone else (without paying them a salary).

slokar

I’m flattered by the jiminy predictions but I have been on the bike 3x since the crash at Battenkill. There are 3-4 guys on the prereg list that could win tomorrow, I’m not one of them.

T

Wheelsucker

come to a relaxed atmosphere, park races, harlem and floyd only. Experienced threes and twos who want easy going team and kit. Power meters, techies and people who train more than 10hrs a week need not apply. If you raced in the early nineties all the better. send resume to: chillax@sellz.org

Wheelsucker

“I don’t do crits(bc I am afraid)”
“I don’t race in the rain(bc I am afraid)”
“I want all the goodies and team benefits(discounts)(and I want to put as little contribution as possible)”
“I will show up when I want(bc I am busy)”
“I want to be a TT specialist(but I am lucky if I make top 10 when most of the strong riders are at road races)

Why are you on a TEAM? Just go grab yourself a CRCA or Astana kit and race on your own.

Wheelsucker

All this talk about teams is making me jealous. I’m trying to find a CRCA sub-team (like 14:16) to do some park racing with and not having any luck batting my eyelashes at the guys I meet in the park early in the morning.

Cat 2 from the West Coast (but just back racing after a decade away) and not looking to do anything more than the local stuff. Can hang with the A fields in the park races I’ve done so far, no problem.

Contact me at gavinb@rocketmail.com if you’ve got a spot. And yeah, I’ll race in the rain. Won’t train in the rain but will definitely race in it. See y’all at PP tomorrow.

Wheelsucker

not having any luck batting my eyelashes at the guys I meet in the park early in the morning

oh! you should have said so! i just thought you wanted to have gay bike sex in the rambles stall.

Wheelsucker

Funny. The funnier part is that there are many out there, including people that I know, who will read this and will not know that it is about them…

Dan…Astana kit…well how about used ML, SA, razorfish, Metro kit?

Wheelsucker

i once an older distinguished gentleman riding the LIE service road around 106/107 wearing what looked like one of the oldest mengoni kit designs around. WHO IS HE? i didn’t have the balls to ask.

Wheelsucker

the deal is, cat 1s and 2s dont pre-reg unless its absolutely necessary. They aren’t retarded like all the cat 4s that jam up the internet the moment bear mountain opens.

does that adequately answer your question?

Wheelsucker

And that was the latest episode of my favorite NYVC program, “Cat 1/2 Eye for Cat 3/4 Guy”

Wheelsucker

Years ago (2002?) Anthony did a race around the minor league stadium on Staten Island

Wheelsucker

Someone help bring that race back. It would be difficult to map out a course with its current configuration yet we need more races downtown IMO. Also, the now defunct Wall Street criterium should be resurrected as well.

Patrick

The rider you saw was almost certainly Bill Bauer. He runs what left of the once powerhouse GBSC team. Talk to him if you see him again. He’s very friendly and has terrific stories, like riding and winning 24 hour road races in Central Park. Bill Bauer makes JFT seem like a newbie to the sport.

Wheelsucker

For overall standings go to: http://www.customcyclewear.com/2009cadencecupresults.htm

Cadence Cup Series
May 2, 2009
Brooklyn NY

Pro/1-2-3
57 starters
44 miles

1. Gilberth Gomez Valverde (Northeastern Hardware) 1:42:19
2. John Durso (Liberty Cycle)
3. Edwin Morel (GS Gotham/TOGA)
4. Chad Butts (Champion System)
5. Jeff Cline (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
6. Bryan Borgia (CRCA/Rapha Racing)    
7. Mike Andrews (Connecticut Coast Cycling)
8. Johannes Huseby (FiordiFrutta)
9. Neil Bezdek (Kissena)
10. Igor Volshteyn (Champion System)

KOM # 1 presented by Lucarelli & Castaldi Attorneys At Law

1. Curt Davis (FiordiFrutta)
2. Edwin Morel (GS Gotham/TOGA)
3. Gilberth Gomez Valverde (Northeastern Hardware)

KOM # 2 presented by Lucarelli & Castaldi Attorneys At Law

1. Edwin Morel (GS Gotham/TOGA)
2. Chad Butts (Champion System)
3. Gilberth Gomez Valverde (Northeastern Hardware)

SPRINT # 1 presented by Cycles Gladiator Wine

1. Chad Butts (Champion System)
2. Mike Andrews (Connecticut Coast Cycling)
3. Bryan Borgia (CRCA/Rapha Racing)  

SPRINT # 2 presented by Cycles Gladiator Wine

1. Chad Butts (Champion System)
2. Gilberth Gomez Valverde (Northeastern Hardware)
3. John Durso (Liberty Cycle)

Category 4
41 starters
31 miles

1. Juan Aracena (Westwood Velo) 1:17:28
2. William Doyle-Capitman (Kissena)
3. Lawrence Uhrlass (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
4. Ed Zimmerman (WS United/Sheepshead Cycle)
5. Benjamin Woodbury (BVF)
6. Todd McCaleshicer (Kissena)
7. Kansas Waugh (CRCA)
8. Will Coghlan (Cadence)
9. Matthew Montesano (Kissena)
10. Karl Nelson (EECT/Kreb Cycle)    

KOM # 1 presented by Lucarelli & Castaldi Attorneys At Law

1. Lawrence Uhrlass (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
2. William Doyle-Capitman (Kissena)
3. Danny Inoa (BVF)

KOM # 2 presented by Lucarelli & Castaldi Attorneys At Law

1. Lawrence Uhrlass (EECT/Kreb Cycle)
2. Danny Inoa (BVF)
3. William Doyle-Capitman (Kissena)

SPRINT # 1 presented by Cycles Gladiator Wine

1. Danny Inoa (BVF)
2. William Doyle-Capitman (Kissena)
3. Chris Yack (Kissena)

SPRINT # 2 presented by Cycles Gladiator Wine

1. David Correia (WS United)
2. Chris Yack (Kissena)
3. David Anthony (CRCA/NYVelocity)    

Category 5
34 starters
17 miles

1. Sean Barry (Unatt) – Winning Time Not Recorded
2. Benjamin Cornish (CRCA/NYVelocity)
3. John Buenaventura (CRCA/NYVelocity)
4. Elizar Torres (Chelsea Bicycles)
5. Carlos Sosa (Chelsea Bicycles)
6. Nathan Archibald (Unatt)
7. James Mahlmann (Unatt)
8. Christian Venegar (Unatt)
9. Leonard Galati (CRCA/NYVelocity)
10. Osvaldo Perez (Chelsea Bicycles)

Thanks to all the marshals, registration volunteers, pacers and officials!

Charlie Issendorf
Race Director
Kissena Cycling Club

Wheelsucker

kissena somehow controlled the race today. They didn’t do any work at all to bring the break back, just sitting on the front slowing things down and letting the Giant guy do all the work

Wheelsucker

Hey Charlie — Great race today, and thanks for getting the results up so quickly. I definitely feel like I get my money’s worth out of these races. Keep it up.

Anonymous

13:15,

kissena did not work on purpose because we were well represented in the break

they rode at the front and slowed things down just enough to help us establish a gap

it is called “blocking”

-william d-c

Wheelsucker

yeah there were two kissena riders in an eight person break. nobody with half a brain expected them to bring the break back.

Wheelsucker

I would say Kissena was in good form today, BVF didn’t have it at all..so, who’s stronger Kissena or BVF?? good question

Wheelsucker

you kissena dudes are like cockroaches. you don’t see cat 4 ny velocity riders starting shit with other teams on this site. have some class.

Wheelsucker

Kissena and BVF are my favorite teams. They are well represented in New York. Wherever i go, there is a kissena or a BVF rider:)

getspence

Well folks, let me be the first to share the news…Paul rocked the house at Jiminy Peak today. He led a very impressive bridge to the winning break then proceeded to kick their asses in the hill sprint as the field started chomping at their heels. I witnessed all at the finish and Paul crushed them fair and
square.

Please join me in congratulating Paul on a super impressive victory.

WAY TO ROCK, PAUL!! CONGRATS!!

Wheelsucker

That’s pretty sweet, 21:09.

Let’s take that in reverse order:

“have some class.”
“starting shit with other teams”
“kissena dudes are like cockroaches”

You’ve turned william d-c’s asinine post into a light shining brightly on your own hypocrisy. Bravo.

At least william signed his name.

Wheelsucker

It is great, the results from a big race like Jiminy are up on the same day.

AVD info about the spring series, or the new crit, is well, nowhere.

Wheelsucker

Please don’t compare BVF to Kissena. There is no comparison. Kissena sucks. PERIOD! Just look at how the club is organized.

Wheelsucker

Oh, and I don’t even ride for BVF and I that Kissena is a night mare of a club. Funny story, person came up to me the other day that is new in town and asked me what clubs should I look into. I gave him two clubs. One which was BVF. But I warned him to stay the fuXk away from Kissena. Bunch of retards. Ragot and Stacey are the leaders of the pack too!

Wheelsucker

Mike Green, if you are going to do an interview with a CRCA rider, at least spell their name right.

Wheelsucker

can anyone out there verify that levi leipheimer was popped for amphetamines after the 1996 national crit championships? where can i get proof? a link?

Wheelsucker

Please, where the hell is registration for The Criterium of new york? I’m soaked.

Wheelsucker

Do you really need verification levi was popped for anything over 10 years ago? seriously? You’re worse than a bunch of chicks.

Wheelsucker

yes, i need verification. my chick friends and i are gossiping about levi and need to settle a bet.

(do you really not want to know the truth?)

Wheelsucker

If you’re a cat 2, and looking for a team…first of all, why are you racing CRCA? The only teams you should look at there would be Empire or Foundation. Or just join a team that has no involvement with CRCA….cause club races are lame.

yeah and BVF and Kissena both suck.

Burt Hoovis

About half a dozen guys from We Stand United/Sheepshead Cycling came down to Lancaster and did the Turkey Hill Classic this year.

Just like last year, they showed up late, and the promoter had to chase one guy down to sign his release form on line (at least they didn’t pull up right as the race was staging and delay the start like last year).

Bike handling issues aside, I saw three different guys from the team wantonly throwing garbage on the ground (gel wrappers, etc.). The coup de gras was when one dude who pulled a water bottle out of his pocket and, after discarding the cap and downing the contents, threw the spent bottle right to the ground in the middle of the field, to be run over by the guys behind him.

Turkey Hill is a great event that the local community gets behind. Every year it raises several thousand dollars for local charitable organizations. It only takes a few local homeowners complaining to the township about garbage in their lawn to get events like this canceled, which would be a real blow to the guys who train and race in the area.

Next year, if they decide to show up, it would be really great if the WSU/Sheepshead guys arrived a bit earlier and didn’t act like such friggin’ slobs…

Thanks..!

Burt Hoovis

Wheelsucker

Your a A**clown.If your not the promoter then shut up and ride your bike.They just possible save you time from getting DROPPed.Do you cry like this when your girl/wife come home late from sleeping with your BOSS.A**clown ride your bike and shut up.www.crylike agirl.A**clown.net.

A**clown

Wheelsucker

I just want to thank the previous post for increasingly making this forum irrelevant. A GED is just not what it used to be.

Wheelsucker

Did A**clown hurt your feelings also.Well man up and ride your bike.

P.s A**clown didn’t touch your girl in GED class your BOSS did. Email gangster.www.rideburtcoatail.A**clown.org

A**clown

Wheelsucker

would have been Ok. If only he didn’t include a link to that horrendous blog. I am assuming the owner of that blog is a porn producer and part-time bike racer which may explain his incomprehensible mix of softcore porn images and cycling racing highlights.

Wheelsucker

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Wheelsucker

is irony dead? seriously i’m convinced you people don’t realize more than half the posts on this site are JOKES.

Wheelsucker

Fabienne Gerard rules again, this time at Colt’s Neck, with Annie Donovan of TeaNY at 3rd and Colleen Conway of TeaNY at 5th. Nice job again to TeaNY! And another CRCA, Kevin Brubaker, takes the win in the 3’s.

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