It’s a grey morning, and the meteorological conditions match my sour mood. Through my own stupidity and neglect, I have lost my beloved Zipp front wheel. I will now be forced to ride my bike “hobo style”, with only half the aerodynamic advantage I used to enjoy. How much did I pay for them? Why would you ask a question like that?
Uglietta wins at Sturbridge – any time you pin on a number and win a race that lots of other people are in – um, that’s a good thing…
Gavin Robertson wins a huge field sprint at Prospect in the 123. There had to 200 guys in that field!!
Miguel Morras wins the Spring Series overall championship.
The tall Champion guy won the 3/4 race (such journalism skillz!), and Tadeusz Marszalek wins the overall over Dmitri Wilkins.
If you think I’m finished boo hoo-ing about my Zipp wheel, you are just so wrong.
Plus, look here for familiar names.
Thanks to Bill Moss for the Sturbridge pics.
Hey JT,
I really think it’s cool that you do the CRCA website, thank you.
But, is it possible that you could update the Team Series standings for the last couple races? And also the team list is still 2006.
I want to see how l’equipe BMJ is doing in the B Challenge.
hey no-name (and observer):
Collins (or I thought it was a guy named Tim) was near the front of the leadout at about 300m. however, when he decided to launch, he jumped about a foot to the right and into a standing sprint. I was on his wheel and just about to pass on that side just before then, and his derailleur went into my wheel. In any case, that shut down the sprint up the left side at about 300m. No swerving happened, just bad luck and bad timing for those of us coming up that side.
You don’t really need a front disk wheel because the front dereilleiur doesn’t reach that far. Your spokes are not at risk.
Does anyone know where I can get a front disc wheel? I’m surprised that nobody uses them, they must be super-fast.
07/12/2006 – USA Cycling National Festival – Individual Time Trial – – Masters – 90-99
2 Paul Curley 8380 51:47.40 1570 Gearworks/Spinarts
I hear that the other 90+ year old guy (who was 1st) is wicked fast.
Beyond the error of your thinking that those wheels are banned in local racing (which has been pointed out) you’re also completely off base in saying "The promoter came across as a a jerk."
Promoters do not enforce rules at races; officials do. In very very small races, such as training series, the promoter might be an official at the race, but at a race of decent size like Sturbridge those two roles are separate.
Thanks Matt and that does it – I’m going disk. Fuck all y’alls and eat my dust!
I don’t know him personally, but you might want to check out the results of the guy you’re calling an idiot:
http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=8380
You are correct that UCI rules don’t apply to USCF races. In 2008, USCF is adopting UCI rules for NRC and nats. Still a little bit of common sense tells you that riding a disc or wheel w/ cover in a RR is a bad idea and you look like an idiot.
The best thing about a rear disk is that when your d-bit (the gear changing thing) gets bent it doesn’t get into your spokes and your cables don’t break plus you don’t swerve in the field sprint becoming a danger to everyone and having people complain about you on NYVelocity (the site not the store).
In UCI races things like Spinergy Rev-Xs, backward facing bar extensions and disc "covers" are illegal. In USCF races they are not. The USCF also won’t give you upgrade points if you are a Cat 3 that places in a 1-2-3 race if there are "not enough" Cat 3’s in that race (50 is the minimum I believe). Check out Gabe Lloyd’s rant:
http://remaxcycling.blogspot.com/2007/04/where-have-we-gone.html
I guess when the promoter rocks a tri-spoke front and Spinergy Quad rear in the race you can rock a rocket pack if you want.
UCI rules be damned, I’m a gonna win this one.
They should have dq’ed the guy who got 2nd or 3rd in the masters race for using a disc wheel. They didn’t care though. People did complain. It is bad enough in most races, but to use it in a crash-fest like sturbridge? c’mon. The promoter came across as a a jerk.
Before everyone starts buying 54-tooth chainrings, I’ll mention that Ryan Tie was 7th in the 123 race with a 53×12, and he’s a skinny climber, hadn’t contested a field sprint since about 1993. Ugli is a big strong guy but I doubt the 54 made the difference. He’s just a great sprinter, and from what I heard got a nice leadout from the Adler guys. A finish like that has more to do with positioning, timing and courage than it does with gearing or aerodynamics.
That rear wheel on Paul Curley’s bike is not a disk. It’s a normal spoked wheel with a cover on it.
http://www.bikereg.com/Results/2007/04/images/palmer/45.png
I don’t know about UCI regs but he’s been using those for years, even in cyclocross.
Shit, any of you non swervers ever ride a race that ends in something beside an uphill sprint. If your are not the first one or two guys you are going to be "swerving" or more appropriately moving into a better position when the slightly overweight out-of-shape wanabe dies at the head of a BS lead out. Then again maybe you non-swervers just like to cruise in with the pack, just to be safe.
Also ever think the swerving came from behind to hit Collins. Just Say’n.
Back to Aero Wheels.
So what is the take on Master’s level riders rocking out the rear disc wheel and tri-spokes for mass-start road races.
Pretty sure the UCI rules state – 1.3.018 "For massed start competitions in the disciplines road and cyclo-cross, only wheel designs granted
prior approval by the UCI may be used. Wheels shall have at least 12 spokes; spokes can be round,
flattened or oval, as far as no dimension of their sections exceeds 10 mm."
So is it a fair or unfair advantage (especially in a sprint race)? Should the race officials DQ said riders?
wins Romandie prolouge.
Anybody else find themelves quetioning the validity of Astana’s results?
I mean more that the usual?
Even though Andy Collins wasn’t ACCUSED of swerving, it is not unreasonable to think he WAS swerving, especially with a bent d-thing.
Dee-Rail-yur
De-railer = True American.
Derailleur = french
Derailer = Americanised french
It was Collins not Ugly with the bent derailer and broken cable, and he wasn’t accused of swerving – it was just classic sprint pack jam I gather.
Not only did you mis-spell derailleur, but it was Andy Collins who bent the derailleur, not Uglietta.
Ah! Thats why I didnt win at Sturb – I wus ridin those crappy Ksyrium SLs – If I had 404s, I would have stomped! Actually, the 4 race was so damn slow and easy up to the scary fast sprint I could have ridden my old Schwinn from 6th grade and made it to the line just fine, and the extra bike weight probably would have helped on the downhill sprint…
Btw, I was watching from the sidelines and Ugly was straight, and he was waaay fast. The 54/11 was nice to have, Im sure – and probably helped more than aero wheels, if I had to guess. Not like the equipment won the race though, folks.
If what a previous poster said is true, and if Uglietta bent his rear dereilleur, no wonder he wasn’t riding in a straight line.
Childcare is so Euro!
As luck would have it, I have to take care of my kids this evening and won’t make it to The Floyd. Thanks for folks who offered advice last week on how to get there. My kid is sick and my wife has to work, so I’ll just be racing around the living room tonight.
Euro is much more important than Aero.
Is a deflector shield for people who can’t ride in a straight line.
Definitely better to use aero wheels if you have them. Not just in the sprint. Overall.
i keep wondering whether low profile lighter wheels would be better for that kind of sturbridge sprint, or something like a 404. i wonder how much aerodynamics come into play.
side note, there is agreat great forum /thread goin on over on the westwoodvelo.com site. Goldman is chronicling the building of a TT01 Time Machine. he was able to land some pretty sweet parts for it. SRAM shifters are the cats meow.
http://www.westwoodvelo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
I just got online… WOW, this is a crazy thread. I have very good bowstaff skills, so I used it instead of my Ruger (more EURO thans the glock). The Ric yelled for me to throw my knife too, but that would of been way to basic. Seriously,
I actually think I blew an O-ring in that sprint. I had to skip Palmer and have been at Beth Israel since. The Mass Mudbutt is NO JOKE!
I saw Ugly do a Tokyo drift going around the last corner and was spinning his rear tire the entire sprint. At 200M he jumped off the bike and slid on his cleats next to the bike with his hands on the bars like those motorcycle riders in those crazy videos. I normally make fun of road racing, but this was off the hook.
he just motored away. anyone who cries foul just has no idea the gift of raw speed that few possess. he has it, end of story. u dont win CB (he won that) and Sturb on consecutive saturdays without it. for those who dont have a 1400 watt final 100 meters, what in the world were you doing going to the line with that beast? u think he’s gonna just give it up? keep taking your average results but take them like a man. there is a reason why the best sprinters are always near the top on courses with a sprint finish. its not luck. its talent and hard work.
I saw Ugly pull out a glock at 300M and shoot several of the other sprinters – he then jacked a bike from one of the Target Training riders. that dude is HARD!!!!
"If you fart sprinting that hard you will most certainly get some mud on the chamois."
gross…
Carbon gun…of course. But to save grams? For stiffiness? Or just for the bling?
with optional SRM
…w/ a 54 Magnum wif his feet, yo and don’t you forget it not will you soon boiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Rufus Pichler Tour de Ephrata 8th on GC… congratz
Ugli Sprint:
I finished a few spots back from Chris in that sprint and saw the whole thing first hand. Not only was he the first to jump, he wasn’t even challenged. He rode straight and was clear from any other riders and there could be no complaints about his win. Better luck next time guys.
If you fart sprinting that hard you will most certainly get some mud on the chamois.
NYC riders top 3 of 4 in the 3/4! Way to go guys!
promiting our race… come up and race bethel with us! our team is putting on their first race (with aki’s help). Come help us out. We have a decent prize list and will have food. should be fun.
Adler 3s, you coming for a rematch or what?
Zephyr?
http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=4544
Was it even Ugli? There was a little contact between another Adler rider and a BVF guy in that sprint, resulting in a bent derailleur hanger on the Adler bike and some missing spokes on the BVF’s front wheel, and they did a little back-and-forth wobble, but both guys — admirably — kept the rubber on the road.
Some of the riders behind them really overreacted (kind of a hallmark of this race, really), and I think that may have been part of what led to the guy on the Ti bike — can’t recall the team — doing the full bike-in-the-air flip at 45 mph.
Anyway, nobody really got hurt, which is something we can all be happy about.
I was in the sprint and have my own complaint against Ugli, but not for cutting off a field sprint at 40mph and not causing a crash. My complaint is that with about 250 meters to go he did something that seemed to take the oxygen out of the air for those of us in his "wind". I later heard something about the Massachusetts Mud Butt or something like that and I wanted to know if it is UCI legal.
If you had a problem with it, why didn’t you approach him afterwards and say something? Perhaps you thought posting anononymously on this site would be more of a manly way to deal with it?
I was not at Sturbridge but I imagine if Ugli did cut off the whole pack he would have either been disqualified or there would have been some falls near the line and some agry racers. Sounds like the Ugli hater is just a whiney tool. I am not on Adler either so this is just an independant voice.
I don’t mean to be a jerk but seriously what results?
i don’t know that it’s physically possible to cut off an entire charging pack…
what exactly did the guy do to Jaime Carney in VA before the fight?
He got off his bike and danced along next to it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOiWaTSypt4&mode=related&search=
Douchebag, ugli won the sprint because he’s better than your sorry ass
Seems that the guy that he punched had it coming. That said, I do agree that two wrongs don’t make a right.
http://www.mikedietrich.missingsaddle.com/?p=73
http://www.mikedietrich.missingsaddle.com/
"Ok so what is with NORCAL races?
please, all of you, stop posting, go ride your bikes or something somewhat useful.
did anyone mention that ulgi only won because he cut the entire sprinting peloton off in the final 200 meters…later overheard saying theres no honor in the sprint……Admin: rest of post deleted. Play nice, people.
Cyclists should never fight. We look ridiculous enough in our spandex "outfits" without the bitch slapping. BTW, if you must fight, remove your shoes it makes throwing a punch on pavement much easier.
Cyclists should never fight. We look ridiculous enough in our spandex "outfits" without the bitch slapping. BTW, if you must fight, remove your shoes it makes throwing a punch on pavement much easier.
Rob H is turning into the new Baldwin.
Do you mean the eye surgery or the horse diuretic?
I would say eye surgery no.
Horse stuff yes.
Team NYVC is hot
Hey, I ride for nyv and i resent that!
what’s nyvelocity ever done except place well for ourselves and put guys on good teams? hmmm…..
Southafrica.net clothes look good
South Africa.net kit does not look good. Paris? Care to settle this?
that’s pretty funny, considering NYVC’s been placing well so far this season…
what’s a matter? are you sore cause the NYCC C-sig is too tough for ya?
Mocking the NYVelocity riders: Uncouth and uncalledfor.
Just a bunch of guys tryin’ to ride some bikes like everybody else here.
Plus they’ll probably be kicking your ass in a year or two. Maybe even sooner…
is lasik cheating?
bike polo was "new" around 1982
What’s your prob? Do you know any current NYVC riders, I’m guessing not.
Maybe deep down inside you just want to be a "loser" yourself.
Classic Times coverage of a trend that’s a decade+ gone. They figured out people were moving to Williamsburg in 2005.
Maybe they’re ahead of their game on bike polo though.
Yes, he actually tried to spit on someone, but it landed on me.
"yelling and spitting match with someone"?!!? In 4 race??!!!
Sometimes I watch people and lose faith that people are good on the inside. That is horribly immature and disgusting.
Some people really are crude coated crude with a crude center.
P.S. The Adler car is awesome
the team membners
During the Palmer 4 race, one of you NY riders got into a yelling and spitting match with someone. I didn’t catch the team name or rider number, but the kit is blue and gold. Have some class! That’s disgusting and reminds me that you’re all assholes.
I often hate reading this site but can’t stop – its like a train wreck that you cant look away from. But to the guy Right, if you are writing in then you are on the site and reading and a huge loser also.
and nyvelocity riders are losers
and right is a dick
"A Member of the Association"
Is Scott teaching Bike Polo?
did you see the Times had two front page features on cylcing? Bike Polo and Fixed Gear riders. Road Riders have become too corporate and boring for the Times.
the Metro guys should take Scot W’s class on bike handling
Involved in two different crashes (caused by others) – tough Spring of crashes/injuries for Metro.
I hadn’t known that a member of the Mengoni team is a Mengonie.
I guess a CRCA rider is a Centurion.
An Empire rider must be an Empirean.
Adler riders are just an Adler.
ComdeyCentral are Jokers and LaughingLadies
Denos are WonderWheelers
Sids are Cannondealers
Blue Ribbon are Ribbonettas
Affinity = Affinitions
Palmer/Sturbridge results are up on bikereg.com
How funny did that mengonie guy look attacking up the hill in PP. how embarrassing for a team who is riding tier guts out in Tour of Virginia to have a team mate literally dodging baby carriages just to get a five second gap. what a shame he could only hold that gap for all of 200 meters.
can sombody tell him he is risking our rights to race in the park and that he looks like an idiot
we were, but you keep interrupting.
Hiya y’all.
I took HGH.
A new take on doping:
Is chastising the pros for doping any different than chastising celebrities for getting plastic surgery?
talk amongst yourselves.
So, someone out there has my wheel and they’re just playing a joke on me, right? Maybe they’ll get it to me at FBF tomorrow? Please? Hello?
I think it’s one of his teammates.
what happend ro Scott Wilingham?
Got lost again driving there, second time. Is like I shouldn’t be racing Palmer. 😀 I am not doing Palmer next year.
A new take on doping:
Is chastising the pros for doping any different than chastising celebrities for getting plastic surgery?
talk amongst yourselves.
Cherry Blossom results are hidden away on the njba website. Go to the calender, click on the CB, click on results.Don’t know why big Ray didn’t post ’em up somewhere more public. You’d think somebody would come up with some sort of website where you could go to find upcoming races, results etc. Hmmm…. now there’s an idea.
The "i’m not in CRCA" post is funny.
Cherry Blossom just up on usacycling.org also
I want to be in CRCA so I can race the A and B race on Saturdays. That is living!
Props to Adler for a great weekend of racing. Envy is a corrosive disease to all you haters. Keep training and wheel sucking and maybe soon you’ll get top twenty so long as you rid yourself of the envy!
Big sideburns only help in CX and MTB, so they must hurt the aero-ness in RD.
Props to Adler for a great weekend of racing. Envy is a corrosive disease to all you haters. Keep training and wheel sucking and maybe soon you’ll get top twenty so long as you rid yourself of the envy!
For cooling effect in the summer?
Aero dynamic effect in the summer?
simply less weight?
How about those side burns? grow or shve when racing?
Speaking from the cat 4 races in Sturbridge/Palmer- There were some really sketchy riders in those big fields. Most of the wheels to avoid were on teams that aren’t CRCA sub-teams or solo riders with no known affilitation. NOT to say there’s no squirlly CRCA guys, but all the ones that headed north this weekend looked really good, and steady and safe. It may be just the fact that a lot of them had already done 5-10 races this year already. my 2
is that why i keep crashing, even by myself on a straight road? i’m tried of going to the emergency room after every ride…maybe i’ll join CRCA. thanks for the tip.
I wish I was on a CRCA team so I could finally learn how to ride in a pack in Central park. My team just cant get that skill down and it clear that the CRCA riders are so good at this. Any CRCA teams looking for a no talent, Cat 3?
CRCA riders race in a much more aggressive and competitive race environment — NYC….I don’t think ALL CRCA racers have better handling skills then others, and perhaps it is partially a personal/subjective opinion, but it is much more comfortable and assuring to follow a CRCA rider’s rear wheel in the peloton than some of the other team riders.
"CRCA racers have much better bike handling/group riding technique than the other clubs"
Totally! Much Better! Like, OMG, I’m surprised that any of those other club riders can even ride without safety brakes!
How can you tell that CRCA club racers have better bike handling skills? Must be from the intense training they all do in Central park. That is a vicious training venue…
I like the Adler Kits and the RV is dope. Wish my team had an RV to rolling into races with. I think the Adler hate is coming from the weaker Cat 1s and 2s who would likely lose to Ugli in a sprint or Riseth on a climb.
I think its pure jealousy (not suprising in this sport)
Its no fair that Basso has to pay for his dog’s bad decisions.
In her first Pro123 Women’s race, Kendall Dwyer finished comfortable in the pack, and also takes a comfortable 5th place in the 3/4s. Bertil finishes in 8th place, highest placing from CRAC in Sturbridge/Cat 4.
ML, NYVC, AA/RF and Setanta riders were taking charge in the front most of the race in Palmer! CRCA racers have much better bike handling/group riding technique than the other clubs, way to go CRCA riders.
Congrats to Ugli, Cisco in the strong finishes at Sturbridge Cat3. Adler logo in the van, it’s very cool.
(Anon haters, admit it, you wished you were on their team!)
Did somebody say Tyler part deux?
unless you’re going actual pro, looking to make a career..then the idea is to ride fast, race hard, have fun, and enjoy bike riding to its fullest. i say the adlers or any other team should do all they can to perpetuate, further, promote this great sport. decals on their cars! awsome. they care enough. unless i’m mistaken, there was only 1 more "signficant’ race in sturbridge, the p12. someone hit the nail on the head. everyone is riding 5 to 8k dollar bikes. everyone’s got fancy wheels and all kinds of other stuff.
lets just all agree we’re all nuts about this sport, its the f’in best sport in the world….it takes absolute compulsive obsession to really take it to the limit, and those guys are having a lot of fun, and success, in doing so. i’ve been around them alot…they are good, they mean well, they act properly in the fields, and they are as nice a group as you’d run into anywhere. they dont need per se financial support. and anything that helps push this sport higher is much needed particularly when the scandals keep pulling it down.
more the better. pile it on.
Maria Quiroga (Third Nature aka Bicycle Workshop) won Women 3/4 at Sturbridge and was 3rd at Palmer.
Ashley Prine (Radical Media) kicked some Palmer butt, too.
!GO LADIES!
See what happens when pro’s get caught and deny?
If he’d admitted to his doping regimen at the on set of the investigation, revealed the endemic proportions of the problem in the peloton, and accepted a suspension, he would probs be riding again next summer. Instead, he’s denied it all and now, when faced with undisputable evidence (in this case his DNA), he may end up retiring.
Are you listening Floyd Landis?
Also, remember Roberto Heras? He had initially denied everything too. He blamed it all on a lab error. I have not heard a peep from him since Puerto came out.
it’s pro as shit!
You know what is pro as shit. laser hair removal.
i used to shave. now i dimple the front and leave the back unshaved for a true airfoil profile. that saves me 17 watts over 40k.
i bet leipheimer is jumping for joy now.
As I’ve gotten older, I seemed to have conveniently developed alopecia on my legs.
If they dont like TIT I suggest: WSTTOKBCTALA, which is short for We Suck at Tris but That’s OK Because Tris Are Lame Anyway
WSTTOKBCTALA is too hard to pronunce. How about WASATA which stands for We All Suck At Tris Anyway
Does this mean you are actualy going to be slower in races?
Team In Training is very insistent that their acronym is "TNT". It’s not, but it’s funny to question them about it and see them get so flustered.
Roid rage. Funny. Carney is a menace. He should be permanently suspended.
Dear Admin,
Sorry, you are right.
riding over the GWB yesterday I got caught in the middle of a horde of the Team In Training folks, the acronym is TIT, so I was wondering are they called TITTIES or just TITS?
are you sure you’re not coach L?
What about shaving Zs in my leg hair will that make me faster?
if I was coach L, Revermeyer, Weintraub, et al: Percieved CoEfficent of Drag in Social Dynamic (1998) would really exist.
Shaving makes me feel pretty.
Yeah, on chris’ point. Not shaving is asking to be dropped. I don’t care how fit you are, or your power to weight ratio, it is all about the percieved coefficent of drag (henceforth PcED, usually pronounced Pic Ed). If other riders feel you have a high PcED they will consider you an appropriate victim for dropping, usually by putting up a blistering pace, or putting gaps in that are difficult to bridge. Leg shaving reduces your PcED usually by 15%-20%, meaning it is less likely others will try to drop you. Wearing a euro-pro kit usually reduces your PcED by 10% unless you are 20 or more lbs overweight and then it increases your PcED by 30%.
For more on PcED please see Revermeyer, Weintraub, et al: Percieved CoEfficent of Drag in Social Dynamic (1998).
Why would anyone want to be Euro? USA baby
Funny how people actually responded to my post seriously
B Jon was starting fights again this weekend in Pros. Park
Jaime Carney got in another fight? That guy is the second biggest jerk in cycling. He should be banned.
Biggest Jerk? Admin: take it easy on the personal attacks. If you have something to report, tell us and use your name.
Shaving will not make you faster. It’s intended to limit amount of skin being torn off if you crash and to make it easier to clean wounds after a crash. But I think people mainly do it because it’s Euro and an initiation rite.
If shaving your legs make you faster then why do so many pros choose not to shave their faces before a big race? Hmm… I am going to shave my whole body now!
Props to Tron Witt for taking 3rd (CAT4) at Palmer. Props also to Tony Slokar for racing the 4 and 3/4 at Palmer, for a total of 120miles of racing.
I think Adler has a great attitude. Why not be so pro? It’s fun to have matching kit/bikes. Bethel had race radios in the 35+ race. Everyone is riding $5000 bikes. Baseball fantasy camps are another example. If you can’t be a pro, at least you can pretend.
Major brawl broke out after final sprint.
The following riders are disqualified from the event for fighting
Oh shoot! Forgot to add (smirking) to meet my own newly suggested sarcasm hint for the aid of those who dont know my natural tendency towards low forms of humor.
it looks pro
I resent that! I thought that was a quality diss, besides, anonymously posting you and JP was half the dissing fun, albeit, not related to the topic.
Mr. Hairy Legs:
Dude, you are so missing the point. Shaved legs are waaay faster, and it really does make a diff even on recreational group rides – as long as the speed is somewhere over 20 mph. To not shave is just begging to be dropped, man.
Sorry to hear about the Zipp. Needless to say, we should all keep our eyes out on CL and eBay. Could get a good deal! (just kidding). Contact the Parks Dept. Call all bike shops.
Why do non-racers shave? I ride Gimbels from time to time and cannot believe how many fat out of shape cyclists with Nagos and Zipps who have never raced or raced years ago still shave. I race weekly and dont shave. When someone shows me a study that shaved legs = faster times then I will shave.
Just a question…
Rider # 195 (Corey Burns of Firodifrutta) and 201 (Eugene Boronow of GS Mengoni) will be recommended for suspension to USA Cycling for riding in the stage after being eliminated from the event on Stage 5.
Are the results posted anywhere for Sturbridge and Palmer?
Today must be my lucky day. I got a nearly new Zipp 404 tubie WITH TIRE!! Some kids on Flatbush and Linden sold it to me, they wanted $40 but I talked them down to $25. Sweet!
TOV photo. Nice photo of the dropped group.
What about Loehner taking 57th in the GC at the Tour of Virginia – this guy is 40 years old (approx.) and a full time doctor!!! Nice rides by Lisban (Empire), Gavi (Sakonnet) Phil (Sakonnet) also.
yes, dont confuse seriousness and funny satire
Nice win Ugly- see what a big gear and big kick will do – that sprint is wicked fast downhill!
JP just doesn’t get it; sort of sad. H must take himself so seriously that he has not fun and doesn’t talk to lower cat riders. I get it and it is really funny.
doesn not make it a commercial vehicle. name & address of company on the doors, & commercial plates would. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
I think the Adler guys are having fun more than taking themselves seriously. The vehicles with decals and the like are making fun of being a big name team.
if you are going to diss
diss with your own name. It’ll force you to make higher quality disses.
Just a suggestion.
"see you later decorators" — that is funny
Congrats to Tadeusz on the overall 3/4 win in the Spring Series. Great work!
"see you later decorators"
….cat 3, that is. The Adler vehicles are too funny. I think small budget PRO teams take themselves less seriously. Doesn’t that decal make the mini-van a commercial vehicle … watch where you are driving. Nice win non the less, they clearly rode a smart race.
JP and JFT (we each used one hand to type)
adler team car – gay