7/8/12 Ray Alba has arranged a memorial ride for DJ. See Details below.
7/5/12 We're saddened to report the passing of Dave Jordan, who lost his battle with brain cancer today. Please post your remembrances here.
This is an interview John Campo did with Dave a while back.
David Jordan, aka DJ, and his brother Eric started in CRCA way back when we still used wooden wheels, (1987). Great competitor. He could be the funniest guy in the pack or crack the whip. DJ is not affraid to do it all, BMX, Road, Cross(where he could climb, sprint, or get in the breakaway), and Track. He is back now and we would like to see where he has been and has planned for the future.
Cat David I can remember Billy Montgomery (of Gimbels fame) telling me he met you at a BMX race and talked you into road racing. Is that true? Who started you in the sport? How did you make your way to CRCA?
DJ Never heard that one, my best firend Billy Calloway, got me started and we did the Gimbels with guys like Greg Durevich, "Wild" Bill Montgomery, Larry Sass, etc... He bought an Atala in the spring of 1987, and I got a Miyata, and we got into the sport that way, some NYC Bi(du)athlons over the summer and then Lou Maltese running CRCA, and then Calvert and Oyster Bay in the fall...I did race BMX for about 8 years, and remember buying Winning Magazine with Lemond in 1983 World's...but that was then...
Cat How were the BMX years? What did you learn from it? Why do riders ride BMX into their 30's?
DJ The BMX years were from 1979 with Bellmore, Long Island... My brother raced the real moto-x scooters and I was just imitating those guys on the 20" bike. I would ride with some neighborhood friends and we all got into it building tracks and start gates, traveling together to races with some unsuspecting parents that had a station wagon, no SUV's back then...Braddock Park 3 day/nights a week, Jersey City in the winter had an indoor track, Flemington, NJ, and the best track was in South Park, Pittsburgh, PA...drove out when I was 14, doing 90 the entire way to get to registration in time... I learned how to race and prepare and have fun doing it.
But most of all as it relates to other cycling disciplines, I Iearned how to ride in close groups and tight situations without backing off one pedal stroke, it taught me to race intuitively and by the time I started road racing, I had no problem moving up or sprinting, the fitness and tactics only needed attention. As to why does someone race BMX into the Golden Years? All I can say is that they must enjoy it! And their kids probably race too, and they haven't been to a velodrome yet...
Cat Sweet, I can remember your first Spring Series win. I think your winning ways started there wasn't it. Do you have one win that stands out more than others?
DJ I won my first overall Spring Series in 1990 as cat.3; I had a great winter of training, and the first race set the tone. George Hincapie was riding for TOGA and they were the team that could control the race. So I followed his wheel during the first lap. We eventually got a good working group with Andrew Lewis. So me, FNG on the block, plus two of USA's top juniors and we let it rip for the rest of the race. "Turbo" GH won the sprint and I was second, but I was very happy as we didn't get caught by the field, and it was my first top 10 in a 1,2,3 race.
There are many great memories, not because of the result but because of the people and places involved. I loved racing in the parks, but also T-town, New England, Altantic states, Colorado and the Pacific Northwest, France, Belgium, Italy, too many places; I have been very lucky to ride and race at a very modest level in the US, Caribean, Central America and Europe... I also loved the training rides, my favorite being up 9A, across the Bear Mtn Bridge, a lap or two of Harriman and then TT back down 9W...Ray "Raf" Diaz always was a great friend on and off the bike, always the most stand up competitor, we raced each other from cat C in CRCA...
Cat I wrote a coaching article on do's and don't's of breakaway pace lines for nyvelocity, and think I learned a lot about that from being in a couple with you. A disorganized break sucks. You always seemed to take charge and the thing worked like a swiss watch. What do you think that is all about? Do riders need a take charge leader to perform? I was at Masters Track Nat's last year and no one could pull a decent pace line...
DJ Well, I had Eddy B.'s Bicycle Road Racing and Lenny Preheim to help me early on, and a natural tendency to get involved in the breaks, so I would try to get guys to pedal smoothly, ride using the wind, drink at the back of the group, ride in size place like a TTT...sometimes it worked... In pacelines, finding a good tempo that everyone can contribute is the key. If "Lance" is breaking legs at the front then no one will want to pull or be able to, and if there is an "I-ca't-pull" wheelsucker then it is doomed to fail as well.
The standard order from me would be to ride in position with less than a wheel in front and a bar width on the side, and then pull for as long as it takes the previous rider to get back on, have a rotation going with everyone riding in similar gears and revs. Stand only when needing a bit of acceleration to get back on the paceline, never in the front or middle, and call/point out road kill/potholes so everyone can focus on the effort collectively. I found encouragement worked best but I have let riders know that it was in their best interest to work by gapping them off the back on hills, or good old push to the front to show them its was OK to work a bit... My attitude has always been to stay put in the field if you weren't going to work to your best capability in the break.
Cat Cool beans, We all put so much importance on equipment. Carbon bikes are popular now with the MT. bike slanted top tube, which I don't like at all. It is going to be harder and harder to find a regular bike soon. I don't find the long seatpost bikes track well on turns, especially on mountian switchbacks at high speed. I asked you once about crank length and you said; "It doesn't matter at all. A half inch in one direction or another in performance. You should ride what you are comfortable with." I think that was very good advice. What are your thoughts on equipment?
DJ Good equipment helps, lighter bikes, more responsive, stiffer/aerodynamic wheels, optimal nutrition, etc. Proper fitting and fitness monitoring is essential now as there is so much more depth of fitness, but the game remains the same, tactics. Most guys still don't race with a clear tactic, or execution of strategy, still reacting to a spin of the wheel instead of dealing the cards themselves, or with the help of teammates and like minded fellow racers. There are many fundamentals that get overlooked. I would like to refine that crankarm statement, in that it does matter, as long as you understand the application. I would never ride my BMX 185mm cranks at a track race, and I would never run 167.5mm for a road TT...there is a correlation between bike fitting (inseam, femur, foot length) and the application or cycling discipline, but in the end the difference between 2.5mm is individual preference.
Cat You have always supported me at the track by coming, racing and bringing riders. We have raced together at TTown, and it was always a pleasure. I'm so happy to see you back. Can we expect to see you coaching and competing in the near future?
DJ I am currently available for coaching individuals and teams, although I still have my regulars thanks to email and cellphones. In Seattle, I coached the Western Washington University Cycling team, and currently coach Jill Kintner, the World Cup and World Champion in Mountain Cross (4X). I have been lucky enough to fit and consult for many professional road, mountain and multisport athletes. I am getting back into some sort of race shape, so I will be back out there racing road, track and cross, maybe a XC run in Van Cortlandt Park and coaching road, track, cyclocross and triathlon.
Cat How was your stay in Seattle? I hear you have some new additions to the family.
DJ We have a new addition, 8 months old son, to go along with our daughter turning 8 soon... Seattle is great and I have some family there so that time was priceless. The cycling community is great and I loved being able to ride in great terrain and cycling friendly atmosphere. The family needed the energy and diversity that is NYC. Plus I think all of NYC can benefit with better cycling at every level so I want to bring that from Seattle to NYC: commuters, messengers, infastructure, training facilities, coaching, and racing, the works...anyone else want to help??? Call me!!!
Cat We can't have too many coaches of your caliber around, although most riders go in for the do it yourself approach to racing. Can you tell everyone what a good coach can do for a rider. At Track championships last weekend Charles Jennings my coach for years and years, gave me some advice on how to beat a rider that was giving me a lot of trouble. I had tried everything and what he was telling me to do, was not a way of racing I would have come up with myself. Needless to say it worked wonderfully. For that fact alone another set of eyes really works. What do you think? Do you think some people are uncoachable?
DJ A different perspective and accountability are two very important parts of the coach/rider relationship. Getting feedback that is trustworthy and respected is invaluable. Of course, some riders never will allow themselves to be coached for whatever reason, but most riders benefit from some sort of support system. Coaching is much more than fitness training alone, and much more than telling a rider what to do tactically. The key is helping a rider discover things like motivation and objectives that are worthwhile to that person individually, otherwise training and racing to another level are not possible. Every rider I work with wants to improve some aspect, but it takes time, communication, and a willingness to discover and create new parameters without pre-conceived limitations.
Cat Thank you for that one, that was quite poignant. This one is for you David. Tell everyone your plans for the future and the coaching, lactate and field testing, performance assessment, custom fittings and the other stuff you are doing now. I want to thank you for taking time to speak with us, and it is so nice to have you back.
DJ Well, I am coaching and try to provide a service to enable the rider to improve as quickly as possible by creating a balance to their training and racing schedules. I use HR, Power, and Lactate data to develop a training program specific to the event. Nothing is generalized. Everything is based on the individual. I fit the rider using several methods combined (Serotta, Seven, Fit Kit, Wobble Naught, Bioracer, Paul Swift, Lenny Preheim), to the proper handling of the bike for the event, plus my experience of nearly 30 years of competitive cycling. I have also been certified by the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA) as a personal trainer and taught Spinning for 6 years in Manhattan, so I try to bring all of that fitness and cycling experience to each person I coach. It's great to be back, and great to have so many great cycling venues going strong. I hope to help cycling grow even more in NYC!