Roller Race with Floyd Landis

Everybody likes to talk opinion however here are facts from my lifetime of being in the cycling industry, working with Pro level teams, and knowing Floyd. The US population in many cases has a different less experienced view of our sport and many do not even know these simple facts:
*Doping is very common practice within the highest level of the sport it will continue for the foreseeable future. Everybody that wins the TDF dopes.
*Betting on cycling is very common practice in Europe and Asia and many races are fixed.
*competing riders sometimes are actually partners who help one another win certain races because of financial bonuses put in place by sponsors, they then sometimes share the reward
*doping test results can be bought and this is common practice in Europe
*Last year Lance sent a message to Floyd to go ahead and tell the truth but did not expect him to actually do it, Lance brought it on himself. Floyd kept quiet for years until Lance made one to many smart ass comments.
*Floyd Landis is a great guy who was placed in a tough spot. By the time Floyd was 29 he had been around the world, won most major races, and made more money than most the world's population could ever imagine.

Here is a few phrases that are not always true but could help some read between the lines a bit better:
compete for race entry = amount of revenue race organizer will gain from placing team

1st test positive for PED's , second clean = rider did not have large enough bribe in place, rider ponied up

never tested positive = heavily funded

sat on competitors wheel till he won at final sprint = pre-race agreement between two competing riders to allow won to receive sponsor bonus which is then shared between the "competitors"

Team Physiologist = Director of beating the test

sponsor supplied back-up bikes = drug fund

not just say'n, I know.

"come clean" HAHAHAHA. That is hardly what he did.

What a fantastic time! My first roller race!
http://youtu.be/5dxpfcx6mB0

Excellent night and event!

Here's your whisker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFtjn3B8qN0

Bobby Lea won by a whisker over Matt Defenbach, best final I've ever seen on rollers

who won?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr6UNWUCfw&feature=related

3 guys go into a bar...I want to be cancer and then next tourdeefranceeramericancer to win!!!!!!
no, says lancer, there can only be one, and that is me...
the sport certainly has jumped the shark after lancer...
there can be no other, who really is going to take so much shite that you gets cancer in the first place, then survive, then go on to win 7 times in a row!!!!!
he owns sram, shimano, and twitter...
the lancer makes the dude wanna shoot hisself...
lancer is so evil...
but lets have a roller race with fffloyd in the name of the father and the last mohicannibal!! for juniors...

right???
wtf???

man i am gonna have a head ache in the morning...

....Cause, I'm just back from my rounds with Amber, Haven and Oh-dessa!

I am in NY and thought about stopping by but I gotta go bang one of the Olsen chicks

No, I think Floyd and Alexi are very different personalities

Floyd's en route to becoming the Alexi Grewal of his generation. Sad.

We'll invite Lance as soon as he does a tell-all interview with Kimmage also.

What if it was Lance instead of Floyd?

i like turtles.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2010/somebody-lied

Yep, it's $25 at the door.

Can we still pay $25 at the door?

Floyd gave us one of the great recent TdF breakaways too. Allez Monnsieur Landis!

I'm very dissapointed with the lack of cleverness with these posts. Making doping jokes because Floyd is the one of the most famous dopers? Really? "Might as well invite Tyler too" - Oh the wit!!! How did you ever get so clever to make the connection and then write these jokes?! "is he going to pay us back?" -Oh, I am holding my belly!! So, so funny! If you were stupid enough to give him money beacause you though that he was innocent, you should have spent that money on a book of some kind to boost your deductive reasoning skills. To Captain High Horse - you might as well call the entire peloton during the floyd years Liars and Frauds - the only difference is he came clean - therefore he's no longer a liar and fraud...

Good idea, but the Chicken is really hard to locate.

Special guests will be the chicken and the cobra. they wont pay these guys anything, but will plaster their mugs all over the flyer to get people to spend money ... Floyd is no better or worse than these guys.

Damn Ken Harris owns all the time.

will chade o'gray be there? I hope FFFloyd is buying my rounds for up to $35 worth of BKLNbeers...or he can sign on where to use and how much how often to cycle...etc...please interview him when he is gedrunked!!!

Do I have to use a fixed gear bike or can I use one with electronic shifting?

Also what is the dosage recommended for Testostorone, would patches suffice or do I have to inject the stuff? Can someone ask Floyd?

http://vimeo.com/29848255

Hey Floyd, a suggestion: don't pass thru Norwalk speeding en route to the fundraiser.

Floyd Landis Party, with special guests former CRCA members...
Jared, Lisban, Pulla,

Roller Race with Floyd Landis to benefit the LiveStrong Foundation. LO(dopesmokin')L

Former professional cyclist Floyd Landis, facing a misdemeanor charge of evading responsibility after a motor vehicle accident (he allegedly hit a city-owned fence) applied for a special form of probation that would result in dismissal of the charge.

http://norwalk.patch.com/articles/cyclist-floyd-landis-applies-for-proba...

Yeah, no PR person suggested Floyd do this, and we're not paying him a cent, though I'll probably buy him a beer.

Seeing how Landis lost wife, kid, and best friend, I see him more as a Lyle Alzado, not Micheal Vick. Vick's crimes were simply crimes, they had little to do with his sport. Floyd, btw, seems to be pretty good with dogs. No PR person is suggesting Landis do this, he just is as far as I know. Andy can correct me. Furthermore, this is developing money for juniors, not developing juniors. If all junior cyclists had to keep ten feet away from assholes, liars, and cheats at all times, there would be no junior cyclists. Case in point (first item only).

Floyd has said he intends on repaying some of the donors, but not necessarily ones that knew he was guilty but had a vested interest in having him fight his conviction:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5652787

We didn't set out to make a fund raiser for the juniors with Floyd as the guest. He agreed to come to a roller party, he gave us a date when he's in town, and we decided to do it. With the exception of one fundraiser for Fernando Cuevas we've done these events for the juniors, so we asked the CRCA board if they were ok with the association. They gave their blessing and here we are.

CORRECTION: I remembered wrong, I only asked Ken's approval, not the CRCA board.

Although I get the analogy, I believe Michael Vick is, in fact, working with/for the ASPCA.

I said disgusted because Floyd Landis is a liar and a fraud. His name shouldn't even be mentioned in connection with developing junior cycling. It's like having Michael Vick be a spokesman for the ASPCA. Like Hamilton, he stole--yes, stole--a mountain of money (something like a million or so dollars) from people who contributed to his defense because he, oh that's right, lied about his doping and claimed innocence. Really, what kind of person does that?

I already donate directly to organizations helping develop youth cycling, so none of this conversation really matters...

Who to attract for a youth cycling fundraiser at a roller race? Great question, and if you're implying that doping is really that rampant even amongst pro pack fodder, i.e. it's a 50/50 chance they're on something, then frankly I'd rather see a band and enjoy the spectacle of locals going up on the rollers to have some fun. Easy choice there.

Suggestion: post a link where one can donate 100% of their cash directly to CRCA junior development. Would be good to have that option to donate vs. relying on "100% of profits" being donated in connection with this event.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go self righteously prepare dinner. Thank you.

Landis won the Tour, if only for a while. Heck, he is probably a good lesson for kids since his lying and cheating hasn't worked out so well for him.

don't like Floyd Landis party? then don't come to Floyd Landis party!!!

still donate to the juniors either way, because the evening is really for them...

BRAVO!!

Thanks for keepin in real, Ken!

I'm finding your proposition intriguing and disturbing.

"If I was a parent of a CRCA junior rider, I'd be disgusted with this fundraiser."

Disturbing because of it's lack of subjunctive, and intriguing because you appear to suggest that the feeling of disgust can hypothetical. I don't think it can be. I think it is or it isn't.

I believe what you mean to say is that you'd feel your self righteousness would be justified if you were a parent who had a kid who was a CRCA junior, which is not very interesting. If you're just feeling a need to be self righteous, maybe you should wait on having the kid until you resolve that.

What kind of cyclist would you prefer for the event? I certainly prefer a former liar to a current liar. Not to suggest that these are the only options, but they are certainly the ones which have the largest draws.

sweet. will he be bringing product to, umm, display after hours?

The rumor going around is that due to the negative feedback Floyd Landis is generating he is being replaced. Joe Papp will be hosting in his place.

If I was a parent of a CRCA junior rider, I'd be disgusted with this fundraiser.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/landis-to-appeal-hacking-sentence

"On November 10 a French court handed down a 12-month suspended sentence to Floyd Landis on the charge he hacked into a computer at the French Chatenay-Malabry laboratory (LNDD). According to his lawyer, Landis was given the option of appealing, but at the time he hadn't decided what was the best course of action.

"I have to take a few days to reflect as I don't want to add to my anxiety a second time," Landis told Cyclingnews last week.

However, after some time to reflect Landis has decided to appeal. When asked what was next after filing his appeal he succinctly replied, "I don't know."

When further asked if he would travel to France and face the charges with his attorneys he replied, "I'm considering it."

The former pro has mentioned in the past he doesn't have the funds available for travel. Also, he has some reservations about returning to France, a country that does not have fond memories of his 2006 Tour de France performance.

"My concern about traveling to France is that they may not allow me to return home," said Landis suggesting that the French authorities might like to see him behind bars.

Something else that Landis has reconsidered is racing in the masters category. Initially he wanted to be a competitive on the bike again, but instead he's focused on his plan of joining NASCAR. In the short term he will be attending a fundraiser December 1st in New York that is raising money for a local junior development racing team.

equals the Anna Kornokova of cycling. In her recent Pez pictures, she has a forehead that rivals Lester Holt.

Dave Perry probably wouldn't want his rollers abused that much either.

There may be enough interest, but I'm not up to promoting them on a regular basis.

Do you think there is enough interest to do this on a frequent basis if it were to be weekly, bi weekly, or monthly until park races start again?

Totallly, a beautiful woman without UCI points -- that's the WORST! like, if I saw Liz Hatch in a bar, and she started to whisper sweet nothings to me, I'd be like, 'Whooooahh Baby. Slow your roll! I'd like to see a top 20 at Nature Valley or at least the Sea Otter Classic before I let you touch this carbon fiber!"

God don't like ugly

Say what you want, Liz never produced any results while being a "Pro" yet she had much more press than some other female racers that were much more successful in races. Marketing...

You gotta get your mind right

because riding around in central park in circles pretending to race is not a joke, but a woman racing a bike in europe--and getting paid to do so--is? riiiiiight......

She was always a "model" first who was kind of fast on a bike. She recieved way more press than she deserved mainly because she is hot. She kind of took the path of many pro surfer women who make most of there money on print adds and clothing endorsements while never really doing much in competition.

"I don’t understand the mentality that people think (woman’s cycling) is a joke."

then,

"I started cycling when I was 25 and racing at 26 just for fun. I wasn’t an athlete before, so it was a steep learning curve. One thing happened and another thing happened and then I found myself racing in Europe."

I think she answered her own conundrum

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=9869&status=True&catname=...

The images of Liz in Maxim are forever seared in my brain.

Liz is more relevant that Froid Landofthelost.

Liz is no longer relevant.

Bring back Liz Hatch...

your predictions are dumb.

Roller racing is a whole different game than road sprinting.

Are all the prizes going to racers or do you plan on a raffle as well? I'll predict either Chabanov or a solid sprinter like Gavin Robertson to win.

$3 Grolsch flip top bottles

What's the deal?

You gonna burn burn burn burn it to the wick
Ooooooohhhh, barra Barouhcuuuuda

eh? wassamatta fayou? you-a go-a chanjadda tha stripe right-a siddauppa? imma confuzionah???

boh! e basta!

Chipin is for watching. Sign up day of for racing.

does the chipin get us racing or just watching?

Al (deep voice) BAAAAAAAA-roooooooo!!!!

The T-Town guys are coming. Bobby Lea too.

is the man on rollers.

I predict Dan Chabanov, Two Time Red Hook Crit Winner, and Master of Alleycats will win. He's better than Floyd.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2008/crashing-indoors

Yes, you have to focus, and there can be crashes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3Z4ffIYTM

Wait—so I actually have to focus on staying on the rollers? And wear spandex?

I was thinking more like: http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34733_788108207689_181500...

North of Hard Canal?

You, yes you! How can you win Le Tour if you don't eat yer meat?

Where's Easy Houston Street?

can FFFloyd be the new Steve O???
ya know since its for juniors and all?
and when can we start having benefitz with/for the Ladies racers in the house? the ones legal to drink at least??? trix and shite?
LMFAO

i thionk it puts the lotion on its skin.

i thoink the stripes are upside down?

i thionk so?

They will?

i thionk serotta will donate something to raffle?

I feel I should also mention that we will be offering $3 Grolsch bottles at the races also.

Anyone racing Super Cross this weekend? Registration ends tonight at midnight
http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=14481

I'm in!! I'll bring the funnel for the Jack Daniels chugging contest.

Toto, Floyd, Nascar, and even a Smiths reference!

I think that fantasy isn't really a secret.

I knew it. Dan has a secret fantasy about being The Hoff.

For me it comes down to two words: spray tan.

That's how I finance my Di2 SRM Serotta.

Why are you folks always begging for money?

Scot Savory is going to win this event.

I suspect that the French authorities will now have a heightened interest in roller races in NYC bars. We must try to keep this activity as clandestine as possible.

Rumor has it that Floyd will decline suspension of the French jail sentence and attend the roller races via Webex.
This Sunday's Turkey Race has more validity than this trial.

Will there ham snacks in honor of Toto? Say it is so, or make it so.

So what's the goal amount for your new ... I mean the Jr.'s program?

Should get Floyd to show up in his NASCAR get up, a couple NASCAR groupies there should be plenty in that skanky bar.

The Jr.'s could care less where the money came from, it could be from proceeds of the skanks side jobs and as long as the money was free of bodily fluids they'd be happy. Who of you's ever tracked the money you got when you were a kid?

Just checked my sched-ule, I'm out of town again... but then again I'm always out of TOWN!

... as his walkman started to melt.

is rough out here the 'roid' game came and had its years, what is a man to do?

Stay true , Stay true."

My vote is the dank Chinatown bar... That was da bomb! And it's awesome that floyd is back!

Thursday December 1 is the plan

Want to make sure it's on the calendar...

We're looking to have our venue worked out in a few days

any deets yet besides date?

Lisbon should get one. He deserves it.

It was lovely, dark and dank.

That dark dank drinking hole with low ceilings in Chinatown was the shit

What's the gear limit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKuDYbnXBJQ

That's horrible dad! I think I'll play football instead.

"now johnny, this money is to help you buy some new tires for your bike. it came from the crca, who held a fundraiser for you in a local bar, and featured a guest appearance by a famous pro cyclist who was busted for doping in the tour de france and whose life has been ruined throug hhis web of lies and deceit. now you go out there and ride your heart out young man!"

"gee, thanks dad!"

keep the juniors out of bars and away from FFFloyd...

1st in TDF. Them's results, bro.

It wasn't the 'all pro's dope' thing, but the absolutely pathetic nature of the FFF that caused me to loose total respect for Floyd. I would make the trip down if I could meet someone like Davis Phinney, though.

Kinda awesome that Floyd will be there.

Like all the other riders we worship are clean. 99.9% of us could not be on a pro tour team no matter how much we juiced. Give the man some respect.

What do you have against skanky bars?

SUX, that we have to have FFFloyd at a roller race in some skanky bar to raise money for "juniors"...isnt it ironic, dontcha think?

we can have at my place...but it gets too crowed wit 3 people
and no dinero needed just booze

Sure, they got-a ham in their-a name but take it from-a me, they don't-a taste AT ALL like-a ham.

check out these pro hamsters do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwngNoHm0&NR=1

"Tipsy crew and Tyler too"? Fans of Olde Tyme history will enjoy that pun

might as well invite tyler too

I hacked into Lances fax machine and invited him so plan on him being there as well.

will that be available at the event as well?

Why would you want it at Marco's house? And I think it would take at least $1,001.

Will he bringing a big pot of his tasty Mort de la route stew?

If I contribute $1k, can this be held at Marco's house?

Floyd isn't racing...

Will our fees also go towards a blood test for Floyd? I'm sure that a hole is still cheating...

Probably not even gonna be Landis, but really Joe Papp after his new Witness Relocation plastic surgery designed to make him look like Floyd.

In case you're wondering, we're not paying Floyd or flying him in. The expenses will be getting Dave Perry's rollers, registering the race with USA Cycling, renting an ascot for Schmalz, etc.

There are a lot of really dumb ass questions being asked

Do the owners of Cache Cache have a place in New York? Things could get tense if there's another 'tip off'...

No need to register. Floyd has hacked into your computer, registered for you and made a large donation from your account.

Can we have bottles of Moet served chilled?

Stay classy.

we have it somewhere around or on 14st?
That would be swell

Can you get us his fax number?

Can you get someone more relevant to show up like the Manx?

The races will be in a bar of course, location still TBD.

beer veer biria cerveza? Will there be an any?

These are roller races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3Z4ffIYTM

You can ask him.

Will he be paying us back...?

what is a roller race?